how to correctly check oil level civic 2004 CTDI diesel
03-23-2005 | 01:21 AM
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Re: how to correctly check oil level civic 2004 CTDI diesel
I mentioned in the last post in the manual it says to check it from cold.
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>> I have spoke to the honda manager who has now told me the correct way
>> to check engine oil level is
>
>
>
> <snip>
>
>
> You have given no indication as to whether or not you've read your
> Owner's Manual.
>
> What does it say in there?
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>> I have spoke to the honda manager who has now told me the correct way
>> to check engine oil level is
>
>
>
> <snip>
>
>
> You have given no indication as to whether or not you've read your
> Owner's Manual.
>
> What does it say in there?
>
>
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03-23-2005 | 01:21 AM
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Re: how to correctly check oil level civic 2004 CTDI diesel
I mentioned in the last post in the manual it says to check it from cold.
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> "Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
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>> I have spoke to the honda manager who has now told me the correct way
>> to check engine oil level is
>
>
>
> <snip>
>
>
> You have given no indication as to whether or not you've read your
> Owner's Manual.
>
> What does it say in there?
>
>
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>
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>
>> I have spoke to the honda manager who has now told me the correct way
>> to check engine oil level is
>
>
>
> <snip>
>
>
> You have given no indication as to whether or not you've read your
> Owner's Manual.
>
> What does it say in there?
>
>
> --
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>
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03-23-2005 | 05:54 AM
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Re: how to correctly check oil level civic 2004 CTDI diesel
"Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>I mentioned in the last post in the manual it says to check it from cold.
Sounds like your anti-drainback valve in your oil filter is toast.
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>> "Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
>> news:gX_%d.107843$ug2.88518@fe2.news.blueyonder.co .uk:
>>
>>> I have spoke to the honda manager who has now told me the correct way
>>> to check engine oil level is
>>
>>
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>
>> You have given no indication as to whether or not you've read your
>> Owner's Manual.
>>
>> What does it say in there?
>>
>>
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03-23-2005 | 05:54 AM
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Re: how to correctly check oil level civic 2004 CTDI diesel
"Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>I mentioned in the last post in the manual it says to check it from cold.
Sounds like your anti-drainback valve in your oil filter is toast.
> "TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote in message
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>> "Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
>> news:gX_%d.107843$ug2.88518@fe2.news.blueyonder.co .uk:
>>
>>> I have spoke to the honda manager who has now told me the correct way
>>> to check engine oil level is
>>
>>
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>
>> You have given no indication as to whether or not you've read your
>> Owner's Manual.
>>
>> What does it say in there?
>>
>>
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>>
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03-23-2005 | 08:18 AM
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Re: how to correctly check oil level civic 2004 CTDI diesel
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> "Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>I mentioned in the last post in the manual it says to check it from cold.
>
> Sounds like your anti-drainback valve in your oil filter is toast.
Internally, the oil filter is the size of a small coffee cup. It does not
hold an entire quart. If oil were draining out of the filter because of a
bad drainback flap, the level would rise less than a quarter of the
distance from top to bottom mark on the stick.
I am very surprised at the approach everyone is taking here. I am also
surprised no one has suggested the simplest solution yet:
1) Drain the oil on a LEVEL SURFACE
2) replace the filter
3) add, from a measured container, EXACTLY THE QUANTITY OF OIL SPECIFIED IN
THE MANUAL FOR A DRAIN-AND-FILL WITH A NEW FILTER, NO MORE, NO LESS
4) start car, let it run for a minute, then turn off
5) let sit for two hours
6) check level WITHOUT starting the car.
I'll bet that oil level will be found to be dead on. If it is not, two
situations are possible:
1) The Owner's Manual contains a typo
2) the dipstick is wrongly made, or the dipstick tube is seated too far.
If the manual has a typo, there will be a discrepancy between the Service
Manual and the Owner's Manual. If the dipstick or its tube are wrongly
made, that will be shown up by comparing with another vehicle.
THINK, people.
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> "Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>I mentioned in the last post in the manual it says to check it from cold.
>
> Sounds like your anti-drainback valve in your oil filter is toast.
Internally, the oil filter is the size of a small coffee cup. It does not
hold an entire quart. If oil were draining out of the filter because of a
bad drainback flap, the level would rise less than a quarter of the
distance from top to bottom mark on the stick.
I am very surprised at the approach everyone is taking here. I am also
surprised no one has suggested the simplest solution yet:
1) Drain the oil on a LEVEL SURFACE
2) replace the filter
3) add, from a measured container, EXACTLY THE QUANTITY OF OIL SPECIFIED IN
THE MANUAL FOR A DRAIN-AND-FILL WITH A NEW FILTER, NO MORE, NO LESS
4) start car, let it run for a minute, then turn off
5) let sit for two hours
6) check level WITHOUT starting the car.
I'll bet that oil level will be found to be dead on. If it is not, two
situations are possible:
1) The Owner's Manual contains a typo
2) the dipstick is wrongly made, or the dipstick tube is seated too far.
If the manual has a typo, there will be a discrepancy between the Service
Manual and the Owner's Manual. If the dipstick or its tube are wrongly
made, that will be shown up by comparing with another vehicle.
THINK, people.
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03-23-2005 | 08:18 AM
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Re: how to correctly check oil level civic 2004 CTDI diesel
"Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in
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> "Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:hV70e.115022$Bk7.101672@fe1.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
>>I mentioned in the last post in the manual it says to check it from cold.
>
> Sounds like your anti-drainback valve in your oil filter is toast.
Internally, the oil filter is the size of a small coffee cup. It does not
hold an entire quart. If oil were draining out of the filter because of a
bad drainback flap, the level would rise less than a quarter of the
distance from top to bottom mark on the stick.
I am very surprised at the approach everyone is taking here. I am also
surprised no one has suggested the simplest solution yet:
1) Drain the oil on a LEVEL SURFACE
2) replace the filter
3) add, from a measured container, EXACTLY THE QUANTITY OF OIL SPECIFIED IN
THE MANUAL FOR A DRAIN-AND-FILL WITH A NEW FILTER, NO MORE, NO LESS
4) start car, let it run for a minute, then turn off
5) let sit for two hours
6) check level WITHOUT starting the car.
I'll bet that oil level will be found to be dead on. If it is not, two
situations are possible:
1) The Owner's Manual contains a typo
2) the dipstick is wrongly made, or the dipstick tube is seated too far.
If the manual has a typo, there will be a discrepancy between the Service
Manual and the Owner's Manual. If the dipstick or its tube are wrongly
made, that will be shown up by comparing with another vehicle.
THINK, people.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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> "Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:hV70e.115022$Bk7.101672@fe1.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
>>I mentioned in the last post in the manual it says to check it from cold.
>
> Sounds like your anti-drainback valve in your oil filter is toast.
Internally, the oil filter is the size of a small coffee cup. It does not
hold an entire quart. If oil were draining out of the filter because of a
bad drainback flap, the level would rise less than a quarter of the
distance from top to bottom mark on the stick.
I am very surprised at the approach everyone is taking here. I am also
surprised no one has suggested the simplest solution yet:
1) Drain the oil on a LEVEL SURFACE
2) replace the filter
3) add, from a measured container, EXACTLY THE QUANTITY OF OIL SPECIFIED IN
THE MANUAL FOR A DRAIN-AND-FILL WITH A NEW FILTER, NO MORE, NO LESS
4) start car, let it run for a minute, then turn off
5) let sit for two hours
6) check level WITHOUT starting the car.
I'll bet that oil level will be found to be dead on. If it is not, two
situations are possible:
1) The Owner's Manual contains a typo
2) the dipstick is wrongly made, or the dipstick tube is seated too far.
If the manual has a typo, there will be a discrepancy between the Service
Manual and the Owner's Manual. If the dipstick or its tube are wrongly
made, that will be shown up by comparing with another vehicle.
THINK, people.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
03-23-2005 | 08:23 AM
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Re: how to correctly check oil level civic 2004 CTDI diesel
Unfortunately that cannot be done because the car has only done 5000 miles i
want this so called break in oil kept in until the 1st service @
9000,Excellent suggestion though i would have done that myself if i could
the the bloody thing on ramps.Doesen't matter though i may be refusing to
accept the car tommorrow due to miss information and premature damage it may
have already done.
"TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote in message
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> "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in
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>
>>
>> "Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:hV70e.115022$Bk7.101672@fe1.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
>>>I mentioned in the last post in the manual it says to check it from cold.
>>
>> Sounds like your anti-drainback valve in your oil filter is toast.
>
>
>
> Internally, the oil filter is the size of a small coffee cup. It does not
> hold an entire quart. If oil were draining out of the filter because of a
> bad drainback flap, the level would rise less than a quarter of the
> distance from top to bottom mark on the stick.
>
> I am very surprised at the approach everyone is taking here. I am also
> surprised no one has suggested the simplest solution yet:
> 1) Drain the oil on a LEVEL SURFACE
> 2) replace the filter
> 3) add, from a measured container, EXACTLY THE QUANTITY OF OIL SPECIFIED
> IN
> THE MANUAL FOR A DRAIN-AND-FILL WITH A NEW FILTER, NO MORE, NO LESS
> 4) start car, let it run for a minute, then turn off
> 5) let sit for two hours
> 6) check level WITHOUT starting the car.
>
> I'll bet that oil level will be found to be dead on. If it is not, two
> situations are possible:
> 1) The Owner's Manual contains a typo
> 2) the dipstick is wrongly made, or the dipstick tube is seated too far.
>
> If the manual has a typo, there will be a discrepancy between the Service
> Manual and the Owner's Manual. If the dipstick or its tube are wrongly
> made, that will be shown up by comparing with another vehicle.
>
> THINK, people.
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
want this so called break in oil kept in until the 1st service @
9000,Excellent suggestion though i would have done that myself if i could
the the bloody thing on ramps.Doesen't matter though i may be refusing to
accept the car tommorrow due to miss information and premature damage it may
have already done.
"TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns96225465FB5DBtegger@207.14.113.17...
> "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in
> news:f66dnU7dUpBK19zfRVn-gg@rogers.com:
>
>>
>> "Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:hV70e.115022$Bk7.101672@fe1.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
>>>I mentioned in the last post in the manual it says to check it from cold.
>>
>> Sounds like your anti-drainback valve in your oil filter is toast.
>
>
>
> Internally, the oil filter is the size of a small coffee cup. It does not
> hold an entire quart. If oil were draining out of the filter because of a
> bad drainback flap, the level would rise less than a quarter of the
> distance from top to bottom mark on the stick.
>
> I am very surprised at the approach everyone is taking here. I am also
> surprised no one has suggested the simplest solution yet:
> 1) Drain the oil on a LEVEL SURFACE
> 2) replace the filter
> 3) add, from a measured container, EXACTLY THE QUANTITY OF OIL SPECIFIED
> IN
> THE MANUAL FOR A DRAIN-AND-FILL WITH A NEW FILTER, NO MORE, NO LESS
> 4) start car, let it run for a minute, then turn off
> 5) let sit for two hours
> 6) check level WITHOUT starting the car.
>
> I'll bet that oil level will be found to be dead on. If it is not, two
> situations are possible:
> 1) The Owner's Manual contains a typo
> 2) the dipstick is wrongly made, or the dipstick tube is seated too far.
>
> If the manual has a typo, there will be a discrepancy between the Service
> Manual and the Owner's Manual. If the dipstick or its tube are wrongly
> made, that will be shown up by comparing with another vehicle.
>
> THINK, people.
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
03-23-2005 | 08:23 AM
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Re: how to correctly check oil level civic 2004 CTDI diesel
Unfortunately that cannot be done because the car has only done 5000 miles i
want this so called break in oil kept in until the 1st service @
9000,Excellent suggestion though i would have done that myself if i could
the the bloody thing on ramps.Doesen't matter though i may be refusing to
accept the car tommorrow due to miss information and premature damage it may
have already done.
"TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns96225465FB5DBtegger@207.14.113.17...
> "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in
> news:f66dnU7dUpBK19zfRVn-gg@rogers.com:
>
>>
>> "Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:hV70e.115022$Bk7.101672@fe1.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
>>>I mentioned in the last post in the manual it says to check it from cold.
>>
>> Sounds like your anti-drainback valve in your oil filter is toast.
>
>
>
> Internally, the oil filter is the size of a small coffee cup. It does not
> hold an entire quart. If oil were draining out of the filter because of a
> bad drainback flap, the level would rise less than a quarter of the
> distance from top to bottom mark on the stick.
>
> I am very surprised at the approach everyone is taking here. I am also
> surprised no one has suggested the simplest solution yet:
> 1) Drain the oil on a LEVEL SURFACE
> 2) replace the filter
> 3) add, from a measured container, EXACTLY THE QUANTITY OF OIL SPECIFIED
> IN
> THE MANUAL FOR A DRAIN-AND-FILL WITH A NEW FILTER, NO MORE, NO LESS
> 4) start car, let it run for a minute, then turn off
> 5) let sit for two hours
> 6) check level WITHOUT starting the car.
>
> I'll bet that oil level will be found to be dead on. If it is not, two
> situations are possible:
> 1) The Owner's Manual contains a typo
> 2) the dipstick is wrongly made, or the dipstick tube is seated too far.
>
> If the manual has a typo, there will be a discrepancy between the Service
> Manual and the Owner's Manual. If the dipstick or its tube are wrongly
> made, that will be shown up by comparing with another vehicle.
>
> THINK, people.
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
want this so called break in oil kept in until the 1st service @
9000,Excellent suggestion though i would have done that myself if i could
the the bloody thing on ramps.Doesen't matter though i may be refusing to
accept the car tommorrow due to miss information and premature damage it may
have already done.
"TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns96225465FB5DBtegger@207.14.113.17...
> "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in
> news:f66dnU7dUpBK19zfRVn-gg@rogers.com:
>
>>
>> "Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:hV70e.115022$Bk7.101672@fe1.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
>>>I mentioned in the last post in the manual it says to check it from cold.
>>
>> Sounds like your anti-drainback valve in your oil filter is toast.
>
>
>
> Internally, the oil filter is the size of a small coffee cup. It does not
> hold an entire quart. If oil were draining out of the filter because of a
> bad drainback flap, the level would rise less than a quarter of the
> distance from top to bottom mark on the stick.
>
> I am very surprised at the approach everyone is taking here. I am also
> surprised no one has suggested the simplest solution yet:
> 1) Drain the oil on a LEVEL SURFACE
> 2) replace the filter
> 3) add, from a measured container, EXACTLY THE QUANTITY OF OIL SPECIFIED
> IN
> THE MANUAL FOR A DRAIN-AND-FILL WITH A NEW FILTER, NO MORE, NO LESS
> 4) start car, let it run for a minute, then turn off
> 5) let sit for two hours
> 6) check level WITHOUT starting the car.
>
> I'll bet that oil level will be found to be dead on. If it is not, two
> situations are possible:
> 1) The Owner's Manual contains a typo
> 2) the dipstick is wrongly made, or the dipstick tube is seated too far.
>
> If the manual has a typo, there will be a discrepancy between the Service
> Manual and the Owner's Manual. If the dipstick or its tube are wrongly
> made, that will be shown up by comparing with another vehicle.
>
> THINK, people.
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
03-23-2005 | 10:32 AM
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Re: how to correctly check oil level civic 2004 CTDI diesel
"Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
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> Unfortunately that cannot be done because the car has only done 5000
> miles i want this so called break in oil kept in until the 1st service
> @ 9000,
Ohhhh...NOW it comes out. This is Honda FACTORY FILL, not dealer-installed
oil. Why didn't you say so in the first place?
Don't touch it. It's probably fine as-is.
Call Honda UK's corporate Customer Service (dealer will have number) and
take it up with them. They sould be able to tell you if what you're seeing
is normal.
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news:e5e0e.123507$y25.106569@fe3.news.blueyonder.c o.uk:
> Unfortunately that cannot be done because the car has only done 5000
> miles i want this so called break in oil kept in until the 1st service
> @ 9000,
Ohhhh...NOW it comes out. This is Honda FACTORY FILL, not dealer-installed
oil. Why didn't you say so in the first place?
Don't touch it. It's probably fine as-is.
Call Honda UK's corporate Customer Service (dealer will have number) and
take it up with them. They sould be able to tell you if what you're seeing
is normal.
--
TeGGeR®
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03-23-2005 | 10:32 AM
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Re: how to correctly check oil level civic 2004 CTDI diesel
"Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
news:e5e0e.123507$y25.106569@fe3.news.blueyonder.c o.uk:
> Unfortunately that cannot be done because the car has only done 5000
> miles i want this so called break in oil kept in until the 1st service
> @ 9000,
Ohhhh...NOW it comes out. This is Honda FACTORY FILL, not dealer-installed
oil. Why didn't you say so in the first place?
Don't touch it. It's probably fine as-is.
Call Honda UK's corporate Customer Service (dealer will have number) and
take it up with them. They sould be able to tell you if what you're seeing
is normal.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
news:e5e0e.123507$y25.106569@fe3.news.blueyonder.c o.uk:
> Unfortunately that cannot be done because the car has only done 5000
> miles i want this so called break in oil kept in until the 1st service
> @ 9000,
Ohhhh...NOW it comes out. This is Honda FACTORY FILL, not dealer-installed
oil. Why didn't you say so in the first place?
Don't touch it. It's probably fine as-is.
Call Honda UK's corporate Customer Service (dealer will have number) and
take it up with them. They sould be able to tell you if what you're seeing
is normal.
--
TeGGeR®
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03-23-2005 | 12:24 PM
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Re: how to correctly check oil level civic 2004 CTDI diesel
Sorry i may be being stupid but i fail to see how even if done from factory
way overfilled is normal,And besides when i took the car back last friday
complaining that it was overfilled he told me he had to top it up! cause he
thought it was too low! I find this very bad practice from this honda
dealership for lying to me in the 1st place.
"TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote in message
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> "Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
> news:e5e0e.123507$y25.106569@fe3.news.blueyonder.c o.uk:
>
>> Unfortunately that cannot be done because the car has only done 5000
>> miles i want this so called break in oil kept in until the 1st service
>> @ 9000,
>
>
>
> Ohhhh...NOW it comes out. This is Honda FACTORY FILL, not dealer-installed
> oil. Why didn't you say so in the first place?
>
> Don't touch it. It's probably fine as-is.
>
> Call Honda UK's corporate Customer Service (dealer will have number) and
> take it up with them. They sould be able to tell you if what you're seeing
> is normal.
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
way overfilled is normal,And besides when i took the car back last friday
complaining that it was overfilled he told me he had to top it up! cause he
thought it was too low! I find this very bad practice from this honda
dealership for lying to me in the 1st place.
"TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns96226B1A840E8tegger@207.14.113.17...
> "Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
> news:e5e0e.123507$y25.106569@fe3.news.blueyonder.c o.uk:
>
>> Unfortunately that cannot be done because the car has only done 5000
>> miles i want this so called break in oil kept in until the 1st service
>> @ 9000,
>
>
>
> Ohhhh...NOW it comes out. This is Honda FACTORY FILL, not dealer-installed
> oil. Why didn't you say so in the first place?
>
> Don't touch it. It's probably fine as-is.
>
> Call Honda UK's corporate Customer Service (dealer will have number) and
> take it up with them. They sould be able to tell you if what you're seeing
> is normal.
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
03-23-2005 | 12:24 PM
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Re: how to correctly check oil level civic 2004 CTDI diesel
Sorry i may be being stupid but i fail to see how even if done from factory
way overfilled is normal,And besides when i took the car back last friday
complaining that it was overfilled he told me he had to top it up! cause he
thought it was too low! I find this very bad practice from this honda
dealership for lying to me in the 1st place.
"TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns96226B1A840E8tegger@207.14.113.17...
> "Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
> news:e5e0e.123507$y25.106569@fe3.news.blueyonder.c o.uk:
>
>> Unfortunately that cannot be done because the car has only done 5000
>> miles i want this so called break in oil kept in until the 1st service
>> @ 9000,
>
>
>
> Ohhhh...NOW it comes out. This is Honda FACTORY FILL, not dealer-installed
> oil. Why didn't you say so in the first place?
>
> Don't touch it. It's probably fine as-is.
>
> Call Honda UK's corporate Customer Service (dealer will have number) and
> take it up with them. They sould be able to tell you if what you're seeing
> is normal.
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
way overfilled is normal,And besides when i took the car back last friday
complaining that it was overfilled he told me he had to top it up! cause he
thought it was too low! I find this very bad practice from this honda
dealership for lying to me in the 1st place.
"TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns96226B1A840E8tegger@207.14.113.17...
> "Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
> news:e5e0e.123507$y25.106569@fe3.news.blueyonder.c o.uk:
>
>> Unfortunately that cannot be done because the car has only done 5000
>> miles i want this so called break in oil kept in until the 1st service
>> @ 9000,
>
>
>
> Ohhhh...NOW it comes out. This is Honda FACTORY FILL, not dealer-installed
> oil. Why didn't you say so in the first place?
>
> Don't touch it. It's probably fine as-is.
>
> Call Honda UK's corporate Customer Service (dealer will have number) and
> take it up with them. They sould be able to tell you if what you're seeing
> is normal.
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
03-23-2005 | 02:44 PM
#28
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Re: how to correctly check oil level civic 2004 CTDI diesel
"Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
news:3Dh0e.124544$y25.91732@fe3.news.blueyonder.co .uk:
> Sorry i may be being stupid but i fail to see how even if done from
> factory way overfilled is normal,And besides when i took the car back
> last friday complaining that it was overfilled he told me he had to
> top it up! cause he thought it was too low! I find this very bad
> practice from this honda dealership for lying to me in the 1st place.
Your engine came from the factory with special "break-in" oil. This oil is
meant to help the friction surfaces inside the engine wear in properly to
their final finishes.
During this time, your engine will use lots and lots of oil, much more than
it will when broken in. I can see the rationale for overfilling the
crankcase with oil with its initial fill, since a lot of it will get burned
off fairly quickly.
However...
Normal everyday oil is high in detergents and dispersants to help keep
combustion byproducts and water in suspension until such time as you drain
and refill. If the level of this oil is too high, the additives in the oil
will cause the oil to foam as the crankshaft whips into it. If the oil
should foam, the oil pump will end up pumping air instead of oil, to the
detriment of your engine.
Aviation, farm, and marine break-in oil is low in dispersants. It is highly
likely that Honda is using a similar formulation in their break-in oil. If
the oil is low in detergent/dispersant additives, it will not foam the way
normal detergent oil does when whipped by the crankshaft, so overfilling
would have much less of an effect. Old-fashioned engines with "splash lube"
used a similar kind of oil as regular fill.
The dealer is probably feeding you a line because you won't shut up about
it and they're trying to get rid of you.
I think you should go take up yoga or something and relax about this. At
this point it is very doubtful that there is anything even slightly wrong
with your engine or the oil inside of it.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
news:3Dh0e.124544$y25.91732@fe3.news.blueyonder.co .uk:
> Sorry i may be being stupid but i fail to see how even if done from
> factory way overfilled is normal,And besides when i took the car back
> last friday complaining that it was overfilled he told me he had to
> top it up! cause he thought it was too low! I find this very bad
> practice from this honda dealership for lying to me in the 1st place.
Your engine came from the factory with special "break-in" oil. This oil is
meant to help the friction surfaces inside the engine wear in properly to
their final finishes.
During this time, your engine will use lots and lots of oil, much more than
it will when broken in. I can see the rationale for overfilling the
crankcase with oil with its initial fill, since a lot of it will get burned
off fairly quickly.
However...
Normal everyday oil is high in detergents and dispersants to help keep
combustion byproducts and water in suspension until such time as you drain
and refill. If the level of this oil is too high, the additives in the oil
will cause the oil to foam as the crankshaft whips into it. If the oil
should foam, the oil pump will end up pumping air instead of oil, to the
detriment of your engine.
Aviation, farm, and marine break-in oil is low in dispersants. It is highly
likely that Honda is using a similar formulation in their break-in oil. If
the oil is low in detergent/dispersant additives, it will not foam the way
normal detergent oil does when whipped by the crankshaft, so overfilling
would have much less of an effect. Old-fashioned engines with "splash lube"
used a similar kind of oil as regular fill.
The dealer is probably feeding you a line because you won't shut up about
it and they're trying to get rid of you.
I think you should go take up yoga or something and relax about this. At
this point it is very doubtful that there is anything even slightly wrong
with your engine or the oil inside of it.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
03-23-2005 | 02:44 PM
#29
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Re: how to correctly check oil level civic 2004 CTDI diesel
"Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
news:3Dh0e.124544$y25.91732@fe3.news.blueyonder.co .uk:
> Sorry i may be being stupid but i fail to see how even if done from
> factory way overfilled is normal,And besides when i took the car back
> last friday complaining that it was overfilled he told me he had to
> top it up! cause he thought it was too low! I find this very bad
> practice from this honda dealership for lying to me in the 1st place.
Your engine came from the factory with special "break-in" oil. This oil is
meant to help the friction surfaces inside the engine wear in properly to
their final finishes.
During this time, your engine will use lots and lots of oil, much more than
it will when broken in. I can see the rationale for overfilling the
crankcase with oil with its initial fill, since a lot of it will get burned
off fairly quickly.
However...
Normal everyday oil is high in detergents and dispersants to help keep
combustion byproducts and water in suspension until such time as you drain
and refill. If the level of this oil is too high, the additives in the oil
will cause the oil to foam as the crankshaft whips into it. If the oil
should foam, the oil pump will end up pumping air instead of oil, to the
detriment of your engine.
Aviation, farm, and marine break-in oil is low in dispersants. It is highly
likely that Honda is using a similar formulation in their break-in oil. If
the oil is low in detergent/dispersant additives, it will not foam the way
normal detergent oil does when whipped by the crankshaft, so overfilling
would have much less of an effect. Old-fashioned engines with "splash lube"
used a similar kind of oil as regular fill.
The dealer is probably feeding you a line because you won't shut up about
it and they're trying to get rid of you.
I think you should go take up yoga or something and relax about this. At
this point it is very doubtful that there is anything even slightly wrong
with your engine or the oil inside of it.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
news:3Dh0e.124544$y25.91732@fe3.news.blueyonder.co .uk:
> Sorry i may be being stupid but i fail to see how even if done from
> factory way overfilled is normal,And besides when i took the car back
> last friday complaining that it was overfilled he told me he had to
> top it up! cause he thought it was too low! I find this very bad
> practice from this honda dealership for lying to me in the 1st place.
Your engine came from the factory with special "break-in" oil. This oil is
meant to help the friction surfaces inside the engine wear in properly to
their final finishes.
During this time, your engine will use lots and lots of oil, much more than
it will when broken in. I can see the rationale for overfilling the
crankcase with oil with its initial fill, since a lot of it will get burned
off fairly quickly.
However...
Normal everyday oil is high in detergents and dispersants to help keep
combustion byproducts and water in suspension until such time as you drain
and refill. If the level of this oil is too high, the additives in the oil
will cause the oil to foam as the crankshaft whips into it. If the oil
should foam, the oil pump will end up pumping air instead of oil, to the
detriment of your engine.
Aviation, farm, and marine break-in oil is low in dispersants. It is highly
likely that Honda is using a similar formulation in their break-in oil. If
the oil is low in detergent/dispersant additives, it will not foam the way
normal detergent oil does when whipped by the crankshaft, so overfilling
would have much less of an effect. Old-fashioned engines with "splash lube"
used a similar kind of oil as regular fill.
The dealer is probably feeding you a line because you won't shut up about
it and they're trying to get rid of you.
I think you should go take up yoga or something and relax about this. At
this point it is very doubtful that there is anything even slightly wrong
with your engine or the oil inside of it.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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