Re: Hondas capable of being towed
 

"lanman" <xlanmanx@aol.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:46:34 -0400, flobert <nomail@here.NOT> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:02:04 -0700, lanman <xlanmanx@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >>I am in the market for a new vehicle, and part of my requirements are
> >>that the vehicle be able to tow a small trailer, and at other times be
> >>towed itself (as in behind an RV). According to Motorhome Magazine,
> >>the only Honda capable of being towed is the CR-V.
> >>
> >>Does anyone here know of other Hondas that are towable. I need to be
> >>able to tow the vehicle with four wheels on the ground using a tow
> >>bar. Thanks...
> >
> >Why not use a cradle, or trailer? Surely would be easier on the
> >vehicle.
> >
>
> With trailers or dollys attached to a Class A or C RV, backing up is
> extremely difficult. Then there's the problem of having to manually
> wrestle with it because tight camp sites don't allow sufficient room
> to back up. Plus many camp sites only allow room for the RV and one
> vehicle, so a trailer would have to be parked elsewhere.

But you can take the vehicle off the trailer or dolly once you arrive at the
camp site and park it in the campground's parking lot. you don't need the
trailer or dolly once you're at the site.

I've also seen people slide the tongue of their dolly under the back of
their RV and only add 2 feet to the length of the parked vehicle.

Jon

Re: Hondas capable of being towed
 

lanman wrote:
>
> I thought of this, but my wife thought it was more than she could
> handle. :-) But seriously, the problem of backing up with a dolly is
> problematic. I've never tried it myself, but I've been told it can be
> a nightmare by friends with experience. Thus, a tow bar on a vehicle
> that can be towed with four wheels on the ground seems to be the best
> option for me.
>

I've towed a Honda behind a rental truck on a couple of occasions. In my
experience, tow dollies are best left for short local trips and yes, backing
up should be avoided with a dolly if at all possible. However, I was moving
and I've had to tow a car about 700 miles. A car carrier was the only way
to go. With the car in tow up off the ground, backing up is the same as it
is with any other trailer. The car is also more secure. I got about 150 or
so miles into the trip with a tow dolly when one of the straps broke. I
didn't discover it until I had to stop at a gas station so for some unknown
number of miles I was towing the car by only one wheel. I got things
temporarily reset and returned the dolly for a carrier and I'm not planning
on making that mistake a second time. Fortunately, the car did not seem to
be harmed by this experience.

Eric

Re: Hondas capable of being towed
 

lanman wrote:
>
> I thought of this, but my wife thought it was more than she could
> handle. :-) But seriously, the problem of backing up with a dolly is
> problematic. I've never tried it myself, but I've been told it can be
> a nightmare by friends with experience. Thus, a tow bar on a vehicle
> that can be towed with four wheels on the ground seems to be the best
> option for me.
>

I've towed a Honda behind a rental truck on a couple of occasions. In my
experience, tow dollies are best left for short local trips and yes, backing
up should be avoided with a dolly if at all possible. However, I was moving
and I've had to tow a car about 700 miles. A car carrier was the only way
to go. With the car in tow up off the ground, backing up is the same as it
is with any other trailer. The car is also more secure. I got about 150 or
so miles into the trip with a tow dolly when one of the straps broke. I
didn't discover it until I had to stop at a gas station so for some unknown
number of miles I was towing the car by only one wheel. I got things
temporarily reset and returned the dolly for a carrier and I'm not planning
on making that mistake a second time. Fortunately, the car did not seem to
be harmed by this experience.

Eric

Re: Hondas capable of being towed
 

lanman wrote:
>
> I thought of this, but my wife thought it was more than she could
> handle. :-) But seriously, the problem of backing up with a dolly is
> problematic. I've never tried it myself, but I've been told it can be
> a nightmare by friends with experience. Thus, a tow bar on a vehicle
> that can be towed with four wheels on the ground seems to be the best
> option for me.
>

I've towed a Honda behind a rental truck on a couple of occasions. In my
experience, tow dollies are best left for short local trips and yes, backing
up should be avoided with a dolly if at all possible. However, I was moving
and I've had to tow a car about 700 miles. A car carrier was the only way
to go. With the car in tow up off the ground, backing up is the same as it
is with any other trailer. The car is also more secure. I got about 150 or
so miles into the trip with a tow dolly when one of the straps broke. I
didn't discover it until I had to stop at a gas station so for some unknown
number of miles I was towing the car by only one wheel. I got things
temporarily reset and returned the dolly for a carrier and I'm not planning
on making that mistake a second time. Fortunately, the car did not seem to
be harmed by this experience.

Eric

Re: Hondas capable of being towed
 

On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:15:40 -0400, "Zeppo"
<zeppo<nospam>@hotmail.com> wrote:

>"lanman" <xlanmanx@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:jamv42taq6hb8u4rjib7a8lvj37kvn9rbr@4ax.com.. .
>> On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:46:34 -0400, flobert <nomail@here.NOT> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:02:04 -0700, lanman <xlanmanx@aol.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>I am in the market for a new vehicle, and part of my requirements are
>> >>that the vehicle be able to tow a small trailer, and at other times be
>> >>towed itself (as in behind an RV). According to Motorhome Magazine,
>> >>the only Honda capable of being towed is the CR-V.
>> >>
>> >>Does anyone here know of other Hondas that are towable. I need to be
>> >>able to tow the vehicle with four wheels on the ground using a tow
>> >>bar. Thanks...
>> >
>> >Why not use a cradle, or trailer? Surely would be easier on the
>> >vehicle.
>> >
>>
>> With trailers or dollys attached to a Class A or C RV, backing up is
>> extremely difficult. Then there's the problem of having to manually
>> wrestle with it because tight camp sites don't allow sufficient room
>> to back up. Plus many camp sites only allow room for the RV and one
>> vehicle, so a trailer would have to be parked elsewhere.
>
>But you can take the vehicle off the trailer or dolly once you arrive at the
>camp site and park it in the campground's parking lot. you don't need the
>trailer or dolly once you're at the site.
>

That creates a potential theft problem. (I guess you could put a boot
on one of the wheels, though)

>I've also seen people slide the tongue of their dolly under the back of
>their RV and only add 2 feet to the length of the parked vehicle.

I thought of this, but my wife thought it was more than she could
handle. :-) But seriously, the problem of backing up with a dolly is
problematic. I've never tried it myself, but I've been told it can be
a nightmare by friends with experience. Thus, a tow bar on a vehicle
that can be towed with four wheels on the ground seems to be the best
option for me.




>
>Jon
>


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Re: Hondas capable of being towed
 

On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:15:40 -0400, "Zeppo"
<zeppo<nospam>@hotmail.com> wrote:

>"lanman" <xlanmanx@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:jamv42taq6hb8u4rjib7a8lvj37kvn9rbr@4ax.com.. .
>> On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:46:34 -0400, flobert <nomail@here.NOT> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:02:04 -0700, lanman <xlanmanx@aol.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>I am in the market for a new vehicle, and part of my requirements are
>> >>that the vehicle be able to tow a small trailer, and at other times be
>> >>towed itself (as in behind an RV). According to Motorhome Magazine,
>> >>the only Honda capable of being towed is the CR-V.
>> >>
>> >>Does anyone here know of other Hondas that are towable. I need to be
>> >>able to tow the vehicle with four wheels on the ground using a tow
>> >>bar. Thanks...
>> >
>> >Why not use a cradle, or trailer? Surely would be easier on the
>> >vehicle.
>> >
>>
>> With trailers or dollys attached to a Class A or C RV, backing up is
>> extremely difficult. Then there's the problem of having to manually
>> wrestle with it because tight camp sites don't allow sufficient room
>> to back up. Plus many camp sites only allow room for the RV and one
>> vehicle, so a trailer would have to be parked elsewhere.
>
>But you can take the vehicle off the trailer or dolly once you arrive at the
>camp site and park it in the campground's parking lot. you don't need the
>trailer or dolly once you're at the site.
>

That creates a potential theft problem. (I guess you could put a boot
on one of the wheels, though)

>I've also seen people slide the tongue of their dolly under the back of
>their RV and only add 2 feet to the length of the parked vehicle.

I thought of this, but my wife thought it was more than she could
handle. :-) But seriously, the problem of backing up with a dolly is
problematic. I've never tried it myself, but I've been told it can be
a nightmare by friends with experience. Thus, a tow bar on a vehicle
that can be towed with four wheels on the ground seems to be the best
option for me.




>
>Jon
>


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Re: Hondas capable of being towed
 

On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:15:40 -0400, "Zeppo"
<zeppo<nospam>@hotmail.com> wrote:

>"lanman" <xlanmanx@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:jamv42taq6hb8u4rjib7a8lvj37kvn9rbr@4ax.com.. .
>> On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:46:34 -0400, flobert <nomail@here.NOT> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:02:04 -0700, lanman <xlanmanx@aol.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>I am in the market for a new vehicle, and part of my requirements are
>> >>that the vehicle be able to tow a small trailer, and at other times be
>> >>towed itself (as in behind an RV). According to Motorhome Magazine,
>> >>the only Honda capable of being towed is the CR-V.
>> >>
>> >>Does anyone here know of other Hondas that are towable. I need to be
>> >>able to tow the vehicle with four wheels on the ground using a tow
>> >>bar. Thanks...
>> >
>> >Why not use a cradle, or trailer? Surely would be easier on the
>> >vehicle.
>> >
>>
>> With trailers or dollys attached to a Class A or C RV, backing up is
>> extremely difficult. Then there's the problem of having to manually
>> wrestle with it because tight camp sites don't allow sufficient room
>> to back up. Plus many camp sites only allow room for the RV and one
>> vehicle, so a trailer would have to be parked elsewhere.
>
>But you can take the vehicle off the trailer or dolly once you arrive at the
>camp site and park it in the campground's parking lot. you don't need the
>trailer or dolly once you're at the site.
>

That creates a potential theft problem. (I guess you could put a boot
on one of the wheels, though)

>I've also seen people slide the tongue of their dolly under the back of
>their RV and only add 2 feet to the length of the parked vehicle.

I thought of this, but my wife thought it was more than she could
handle. :-) But seriously, the problem of backing up with a dolly is
problematic. I've never tried it myself, but I've been told it can be
a nightmare by friends with experience. Thus, a tow bar on a vehicle
that can be towed with four wheels on the ground seems to be the best
option for me.




>
>Jon
>


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Re: Hondas capable of being towed
 

On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:39:06 -0700, lanman <xlanmanx@aol.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:46:34 -0400, flobert <nomail@here.NOT> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:02:04 -0700, lanman <xlanmanx@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I am in the market for a new vehicle, and part of my requirements are
>>>that the vehicle be able to tow a small trailer, and at other times be
>>>towed itself (as in behind an RV). According to Motorhome Magazine,
>>>the only Honda capable of being towed is the CR-V.
>>>
>>>Does anyone here know of other Hondas that are towable. I need to be
>>>able to tow the vehicle with four wheels on the ground using a tow
>>>bar. Thanks...
>>
>>Why not use a cradle, or trailer? Surely would be easier on the
>>vehicle.
>>
>
>With trailers or dollys attached to a Class A or C RV, backing up is
>extremely difficult.

Then take some lessons, and practice. Dunno why there seems to be this
prevelent attitude in the US against taking a smarter option if it
means taking some lessons - I've seen it happen in lots of areas.

> Then there's the problem of having to manually
>wrestle with it because tight camp sites don't allow sufficient room
>to back up. Plus many camp sites only allow room for the RV and one
>vehicle, so a trailer would have to be parked elsewhere.

Or, gee, I dunno, we used to just pick ours up and put it on its
sidelean it aginst the RV, not a problem. And this was a big one, for
towing 2-3 ton of Millitary vehicle.


i have always wondered about flat-towing, and reversing though, mainly
because i've never seen it done anywhere except the US (and I've only
been here 3 years). Does seem overly harsh no the vehicle, and i am
wondering how steering control is done (so as not to scrub hell out of
the front wheels) - this would natually relate to backing up and where
the pivot point(s) would be located.

Re: Hondas capable of being towed
 

On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:39:06 -0700, lanman <xlanmanx@aol.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:46:34 -0400, flobert <nomail@here.NOT> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:02:04 -0700, lanman <xlanmanx@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I am in the market for a new vehicle, and part of my requirements are
>>>that the vehicle be able to tow a small trailer, and at other times be
>>>towed itself (as in behind an RV). According to Motorhome Magazine,
>>>the only Honda capable of being towed is the CR-V.
>>>
>>>Does anyone here know of other Hondas that are towable. I need to be
>>>able to tow the vehicle with four wheels on the ground using a tow
>>>bar. Thanks...
>>
>>Why not use a cradle, or trailer? Surely would be easier on the
>>vehicle.
>>
>
>With trailers or dollys attached to a Class A or C RV, backing up is
>extremely difficult.

Then take some lessons, and practice. Dunno why there seems to be this
prevelent attitude in the US against taking a smarter option if it
means taking some lessons - I've seen it happen in lots of areas.

> Then there's the problem of having to manually
>wrestle with it because tight camp sites don't allow sufficient room
>to back up. Plus many camp sites only allow room for the RV and one
>vehicle, so a trailer would have to be parked elsewhere.

Or, gee, I dunno, we used to just pick ours up and put it on its
sidelean it aginst the RV, not a problem. And this was a big one, for
towing 2-3 ton of Millitary vehicle.


i have always wondered about flat-towing, and reversing though, mainly
because i've never seen it done anywhere except the US (and I've only
been here 3 years). Does seem overly harsh no the vehicle, and i am
wondering how steering control is done (so as not to scrub hell out of
the front wheels) - this would natually relate to backing up and where
the pivot point(s) would be located.

Re: Hondas capable of being towed
 

On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:39:06 -0700, lanman <xlanmanx@aol.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:46:34 -0400, flobert <nomail@here.NOT> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:02:04 -0700, lanman <xlanmanx@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I am in the market for a new vehicle, and part of my requirements are
>>>that the vehicle be able to tow a small trailer, and at other times be
>>>towed itself (as in behind an RV). According to Motorhome Magazine,
>>>the only Honda capable of being towed is the CR-V.
>>>
>>>Does anyone here know of other Hondas that are towable. I need to be
>>>able to tow the vehicle with four wheels on the ground using a tow
>>>bar. Thanks...
>>
>>Why not use a cradle, or trailer? Surely would be easier on the
>>vehicle.
>>
>
>With trailers or dollys attached to a Class A or C RV, backing up is
>extremely difficult.

Then take some lessons, and practice. Dunno why there seems to be this
prevelent attitude in the US against taking a smarter option if it
means taking some lessons - I've seen it happen in lots of areas.

> Then there's the problem of having to manually
>wrestle with it because tight camp sites don't allow sufficient room
>to back up. Plus many camp sites only allow room for the RV and one
>vehicle, so a trailer would have to be parked elsewhere.

Or, gee, I dunno, we used to just pick ours up and put it on its
sidelean it aginst the RV, not a problem. And this was a big one, for
towing 2-3 ton of Millitary vehicle.


i have always wondered about flat-towing, and reversing though, mainly
because i've never seen it done anywhere except the US (and I've only
been here 3 years). Does seem overly harsh no the vehicle, and i am
wondering how steering control is done (so as not to scrub hell out of
the front wheels) - this would natually relate to backing up and where
the pivot point(s) would be located.

Re: Hondas capable of being towed
 

On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:16:50 -0700, Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote:

>lanman wrote:
>>
>> I thought of this, but my wife thought it was more than she could
>> handle. :-) But seriously, the problem of backing up with a dolly is
>> problematic. I've never tried it myself, but I've been told it can be
>> a nightmare by friends with experience. Thus, a tow bar on a vehicle
>> that can be towed with four wheels on the ground seems to be the best
>> option for me.
>>
>
>I've towed a Honda behind a rental truck on a couple of occasions. In my
>experience, tow dollies are best left for short local trips and yes, backing
>up should be avoided with a dolly if at all possible. However, I was moving
>and I've had to tow a car about 700 miles. A car carrier was the only way
>to go. With the car in tow up off the ground, backing up is the same as it
>is with any other trailer.

I'm thinking a trailer at the end of a 40' Class A motorhome would not
be the same as any other trailer. Plus, this is the least desirable
option for me because of the weight and size of the empty trailer, and
the problems of maneuvering and storing the trailer in a small camp
grounds. In some places, you're fortunate to get enough room just for
the RV.


The car is also more secure. I got about 150 or
>so miles into the trip with a tow dolly when one of the straps broke. I
>didn't discover it until I had to stop at a gas station so for some unknown
>number of miles I was towing the car by only one wheel. I got things
>temporarily reset and returned the dolly for a carrier and I'm not planning
>on making that mistake a second time. Fortunately, the car did not seem to
>be harmed by this experience.
>

I would not anticipate a problem with the front wheels off the ground.
It's trickier with four-down towing because of front wheel drive or
AWD. Plus, you don't want to be racking up miles on the odometer while
you're towing.




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Re: Hondas capable of being towed
 

On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:16:50 -0700, Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote:

>lanman wrote:
>>
>> I thought of this, but my wife thought it was more than she could
>> handle. :-) But seriously, the problem of backing up with a dolly is
>> problematic. I've never tried it myself, but I've been told it can be
>> a nightmare by friends with experience. Thus, a tow bar on a vehicle
>> that can be towed with four wheels on the ground seems to be the best
>> option for me.
>>
>
>I've towed a Honda behind a rental truck on a couple of occasions. In my
>experience, tow dollies are best left for short local trips and yes, backing
>up should be avoided with a dolly if at all possible. However, I was moving
>and I've had to tow a car about 700 miles. A car carrier was the only way
>to go. With the car in tow up off the ground, backing up is the same as it
>is with any other trailer.

I'm thinking a trailer at the end of a 40' Class A motorhome would not
be the same as any other trailer. Plus, this is the least desirable
option for me because of the weight and size of the empty trailer, and
the problems of maneuvering and storing the trailer in a small camp
grounds. In some places, you're fortunate to get enough room just for
the RV.


The car is also more secure. I got about 150 or
>so miles into the trip with a tow dolly when one of the straps broke. I
>didn't discover it until I had to stop at a gas station so for some unknown
>number of miles I was towing the car by only one wheel. I got things
>temporarily reset and returned the dolly for a carrier and I'm not planning
>on making that mistake a second time. Fortunately, the car did not seem to
>be harmed by this experience.
>

I would not anticipate a problem with the front wheels off the ground.
It's trickier with four-down towing because of front wheel drive or
AWD. Plus, you don't want to be racking up miles on the odometer while
you're towing.




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Re: Hondas capable of being towed
 

On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:16:50 -0700, Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote:

>lanman wrote:
>>
>> I thought of this, but my wife thought it was more than she could
>> handle. :-) But seriously, the problem of backing up with a dolly is
>> problematic. I've never tried it myself, but I've been told it can be
>> a nightmare by friends with experience. Thus, a tow bar on a vehicle
>> that can be towed with four wheels on the ground seems to be the best
>> option for me.
>>
>
>I've towed a Honda behind a rental truck on a couple of occasions. In my
>experience, tow dollies are best left for short local trips and yes, backing
>up should be avoided with a dolly if at all possible. However, I was moving
>and I've had to tow a car about 700 miles. A car carrier was the only way
>to go. With the car in tow up off the ground, backing up is the same as it
>is with any other trailer.

I'm thinking a trailer at the end of a 40' Class A motorhome would not
be the same as any other trailer. Plus, this is the least desirable
option for me because of the weight and size of the empty trailer, and
the problems of maneuvering and storing the trailer in a small camp
grounds. In some places, you're fortunate to get enough room just for
the RV.


The car is also more secure. I got about 150 or
>so miles into the trip with a tow dolly when one of the straps broke. I
>didn't discover it until I had to stop at a gas station so for some unknown
>number of miles I was towing the car by only one wheel. I got things
>temporarily reset and returned the dolly for a carrier and I'm not planning
>on making that mistake a second time. Fortunately, the car did not seem to
>be harmed by this experience.
>

I would not anticipate a problem with the front wheels off the ground.
It's trickier with four-down towing because of front wheel drive or
AWD. Plus, you don't want to be racking up miles on the odometer while
you're towing.




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Re: Hondas capable of being towed
 

lanman <xlanmanx@aol.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:16:50 -0700, Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote:
>
>
> I would not anticipate a problem with the front wheels off the ground.
> It's trickier with four-down towing because of front wheel drive or
> AWD. Plus, you don't want to be racking up miles on the odometer while
> you're towing.
>
Not sure, but I'd think the odo would not run up with ignition off, at least on
the non-mechanical ones.

Re: Hondas capable of being towed
 

lanman <xlanmanx@aol.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:16:50 -0700, Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote:
>
>
> I would not anticipate a problem with the front wheels off the ground.
> It's trickier with four-down towing because of front wheel drive or
> AWD. Plus, you don't want to be racking up miles on the odometer while
> you're towing.
>
Not sure, but I'd think the odo would not run up with ignition off, at least on
the non-mechanical ones.