Looking to increase my earning potential, I sell Hondas at a Chicago Area
Dealer
Community Honda Orland Park Il. E-Mail me back at this address or call
708-364-2600 ask for Drew, Thanks

 

On 7/25/2004 1:29 AM Pamela D'Aoust spake these words of knowledge:

> Looking to increase my earning potential, I sell Hondas at a Chicago Area
> Dealer
> Community Honda Orland Park Il. E-Mail me back at this address or call
> 708-364-2600 ask for Drew, Thanks


So Pam, whose sales are you trying to increase? Yours, or Drew's?
FWIW, a large majority of the people *here* have and enjoy their Hondas.
I would imagine that only a small percentage at any given time is in
the market for a new car.


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
Nihilism means nothing to me.

 

On 7/25/2004 1:29 AM Pamela D'Aoust spake these words of knowledge:

> Looking to increase my earning potential, I sell Hondas at a Chicago Area
> Dealer
> Community Honda Orland Park Il. E-Mail me back at this address or call
> 708-364-2600 ask for Drew, Thanks


So Pam, whose sales are you trying to increase? Yours, or Drew's?
FWIW, a large majority of the people *here* have and enjoy their Hondas.
I would imagine that only a small percentage at any given time is in
the market for a new car.


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
Nihilism means nothing to me.

 

In article <5wOMc.2925$kU5.259886@twister.tampabay.rr.com> Dave Kelsen
<invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:

>On 7/25/2004 1:29 AM Pamela D'Aoust spake these words of knowledge:

>> Looking to increase my earning potential, I sell Hondas at a Chicago Area
>> Dealer
>> Community Honda Orland Park Il. E-Mail me back at this address or call
>> 708-364-2600 ask for Drew, Thanks

>So Pam, whose sales are you trying to increase? Yours, or Drew's?
>FWIW, a large majority of the people *here* have and enjoy their Hondas.
> I would imagine that only a small percentage at any given time is in
>the market for a new car.

And at this particular time of the model year, a good bargainer can go to
practically any dealership and make a pretty terrific, lowfat deal.
Actually, if you took a poll you'd likely discover that we're all sort of
turned off by "no-haggle" deals because the implication there is that you
(the dealership) has a price in mind that you are unwilling to move off of
but one which in the final analysis still contains negotiable fat.

Do not insult our intelligence. We're not stupid. People in this newsgroup
know that no dealership can sell cars below their final cost and remain in
business. They might advertise "below invoice" but if you're in the car
business you know that "invoice" is a marketing buzzword that these days
doesn't mean a Goddamn thing. Talk to us about holdback, end of month/end
of quarter and end of year volume quotas and other factory-to-dealer
incentives, fleet deals and "X-Plans" and you might get our attention.
Stick your profit-laden dealer financing, upsidedown buyout cons, zero
interest scams, fabric protection and extended service plans up your ***.


--
CHIROPRACTOR: (noun). A person with a 4-yr college degree, but no medical
degree, no medical training, no medical license, no medical hospital
staff priviledges and who has not even received training as a paramedic,
but who dare call themselves "Doctor" while hawking non-prescription
strength vitamins, potions, lotions and herbal remedies, while duping a
naive and trusting public into believing that if s/he cannot cure you,
likely no one can.

 

In article <5wOMc.2925$kU5.259886@twister.tampabay.rr.com> Dave Kelsen
<invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:

>On 7/25/2004 1:29 AM Pamela D'Aoust spake these words of knowledge:

>> Looking to increase my earning potential, I sell Hondas at a Chicago Area
>> Dealer
>> Community Honda Orland Park Il. E-Mail me back at this address or call
>> 708-364-2600 ask for Drew, Thanks

>So Pam, whose sales are you trying to increase? Yours, or Drew's?
>FWIW, a large majority of the people *here* have and enjoy their Hondas.
> I would imagine that only a small percentage at any given time is in
>the market for a new car.

And at this particular time of the model year, a good bargainer can go to
practically any dealership and make a pretty terrific, lowfat deal.
Actually, if you took a poll you'd likely discover that we're all sort of
turned off by "no-haggle" deals because the implication there is that you
(the dealership) has a price in mind that you are unwilling to move off of
but one which in the final analysis still contains negotiable fat.

Do not insult our intelligence. We're not stupid. People in this newsgroup
know that no dealership can sell cars below their final cost and remain in
business. They might advertise "below invoice" but if you're in the car
business you know that "invoice" is a marketing buzzword that these days
doesn't mean a Goddamn thing. Talk to us about holdback, end of month/end
of quarter and end of year volume quotas and other factory-to-dealer
incentives, fleet deals and "X-Plans" and you might get our attention.
Stick your profit-laden dealer financing, upsidedown buyout cons, zero
interest scams, fabric protection and extended service plans up your ***.


--
CHIROPRACTOR: (noun). A person with a 4-yr college degree, but no medical
degree, no medical training, no medical license, no medical hospital
staff priviledges and who has not even received training as a paramedic,
but who dare call themselves "Doctor" while hawking non-prescription
strength vitamins, potions, lotions and herbal remedies, while duping a
naive and trusting public into believing that if s/he cannot cure you,
likely no one can.

 

In article <mjh7g09tqub1hehmfnsrrf8hchlr6vv7a7@4ax.com>,
Bubba <wdg@[204.52.135.1]> wrote:

> Stick your profit-laden dealer financing, upsidedown buyout cons, zero
> interest scams, fabric protection and extended service plans up your ***.

I'll take umbrage with the upsidedown buyout and zero interest things as
being "cons" or "scams".

It's just numbers. There's no con in the numbers. People do want to
take their upside deal and get rid of it, and that's a legitimate
service/product to offer. It's the owner's problem that he's paying way
too much, not the car seller's problem. What do you expect the car
seller to do--tell him no, that's not a good deal for you financially,
so I won't do it for you? That's not the car seller's business. His
business, his job, is to bring car buyers together with a car--period.
His job isn't financial counseling, or passing judgment on the stupidity
of the people who insist on turning over upside down car after upside
down car.

Same with zero interest. Sure, it's zero interest--as long as you pay
invoice. Well, that's just a way to hit some peoples' comfort level.
Some people respond to zero interest and never actually look at the
numbers. Is that the problem of the guy selling the car? Sure, such
people are stupid--but see above.

That people go out and buy cars and never actually crunch the numbers is
NOT the business of the car seller. People in this country are free to
be as utterly stupid as they want to be with their money.

 

In article <mjh7g09tqub1hehmfnsrrf8hchlr6vv7a7@4ax.com>,
Bubba <wdg@[204.52.135.1]> wrote:

> Stick your profit-laden dealer financing, upsidedown buyout cons, zero
> interest scams, fabric protection and extended service plans up your ***.

I'll take umbrage with the upsidedown buyout and zero interest things as
being "cons" or "scams".

It's just numbers. There's no con in the numbers. People do want to
take their upside deal and get rid of it, and that's a legitimate
service/product to offer. It's the owner's problem that he's paying way
too much, not the car seller's problem. What do you expect the car
seller to do--tell him no, that's not a good deal for you financially,
so I won't do it for you? That's not the car seller's business. His
business, his job, is to bring car buyers together with a car--period.
His job isn't financial counseling, or passing judgment on the stupidity
of the people who insist on turning over upside down car after upside
down car.

Same with zero interest. Sure, it's zero interest--as long as you pay
invoice. Well, that's just a way to hit some peoples' comfort level.
Some people respond to zero interest and never actually look at the
numbers. Is that the problem of the guy selling the car? Sure, such
people are stupid--but see above.

That people go out and buy cars and never actually crunch the numbers is
NOT the business of the car seller. People in this country are free to
be as utterly stupid as they want to be with their money.

 

I can't help but keep thinking of the Mitsubishi owners (I think it was)
that got the 0 interest and no payments for year. Christ at the end of the
year they would probably be upside down almost half of what the car cost
new when you include depreciation and the fact they hadn't made thousands of
dollars in payments.


"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-A71FE7.12545825072004@text.usenetserver.com...
> In article <mjh7g09tqub1hehmfnsrrf8hchlr6vv7a7@4ax.com>,
> Bubba <wdg@[204.52.135.1]> wrote:
>
> > Stick your profit-laden dealer financing, upsidedown buyout cons, zero
> > interest scams, fabric protection and extended service plans up your
***.
>
> I'll take umbrage with the upsidedown buyout and zero interest things as
> being "cons" or "scams".
>
> It's just numbers. There's no con in the numbers. People do want to
> take their upside deal and get rid of it, and that's a legitimate
> service/product to offer. It's the owner's problem that he's paying way
> too much, not the car seller's problem. What do you expect the car
> seller to do--tell him no, that's not a good deal for you financially,
> so I won't do it for you? That's not the car seller's business. His
> business, his job, is to bring car buyers together with a car--period.
> His job isn't financial counseling, or passing judgment on the stupidity
> of the people who insist on turning over upside down car after upside
> down car.
>
> Same with zero interest. Sure, it's zero interest--as long as you pay
> invoice. Well, that's just a way to hit some peoples' comfort level.
> Some people respond to zero interest and never actually look at the
> numbers. Is that the problem of the guy selling the car? Sure, such
> people are stupid--but see above.
>
> That people go out and buy cars and never actually crunch the numbers is
> NOT the business of the car seller. People in this country are free to
> be as utterly stupid as they want to be with their money.
>

 

I can't help but keep thinking of the Mitsubishi owners (I think it was)
that got the 0 interest and no payments for year. Christ at the end of the
year they would probably be upside down almost half of what the car cost
new when you include depreciation and the fact they hadn't made thousands of
dollars in payments.


"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-A71FE7.12545825072004@text.usenetserver.com...
> In article <mjh7g09tqub1hehmfnsrrf8hchlr6vv7a7@4ax.com>,
> Bubba <wdg@[204.52.135.1]> wrote:
>
> > Stick your profit-laden dealer financing, upsidedown buyout cons, zero
> > interest scams, fabric protection and extended service plans up your
***.
>
> I'll take umbrage with the upsidedown buyout and zero interest things as
> being "cons" or "scams".
>
> It's just numbers. There's no con in the numbers. People do want to
> take their upside deal and get rid of it, and that's a legitimate
> service/product to offer. It's the owner's problem that he's paying way
> too much, not the car seller's problem. What do you expect the car
> seller to do--tell him no, that's not a good deal for you financially,
> so I won't do it for you? That's not the car seller's business. His
> business, his job, is to bring car buyers together with a car--period.
> His job isn't financial counseling, or passing judgment on the stupidity
> of the people who insist on turning over upside down car after upside
> down car.
>
> Same with zero interest. Sure, it's zero interest--as long as you pay
> invoice. Well, that's just a way to hit some peoples' comfort level.
> Some people respond to zero interest and never actually look at the
> numbers. Is that the problem of the guy selling the car? Sure, such
> people are stupid--but see above.
>
> That people go out and buy cars and never actually crunch the numbers is
> NOT the business of the car seller. People in this country are free to
> be as utterly stupid as they want to be with their money.
>

 

So, what's your real name? It says Pam on the post, but you signed it Drew?

True, people in general are stupid and don't spend time doing any research.
Their mistake is trusting people, especially car sales people. We all know
that car SALES is what a dealership does and they don't care how they make
it or how stupid people can be. They want to move money from the buyer's
account to theirs.

I guess it's a matter of business ethics: do you think it's right or wrong
to take advantage of people (for whatever reason)? Of course that's a
rhetorical question as I don't expect anyone to answer it.

All that aside, I've been in other newsgroups long enough to know you don't
come in here advertising or soliciting. You have violated one of the most
prominent etiquette rules in newsgroups.

I for one have ABSOLUTELY NO COMPASSION FOR DEALERSHIPS as they charge top
dollar to do marginal work. So, I educate myself and do my own work. What's
beyond my capability I take to a trusted, local, mechanic.

In short, don't cry to me about making more money and using a newsgroup to
do it. There are plenty of other suckers out there: they're on YOUR lot.
"Pamela D'Aoust" <pdjpdjpd@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:4rIMc.133209$OB3.58851@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Looking to increase my earning potential, I sell Hondas at a Chicago Area
> Dealer
> Community Honda Orland Park Il. E-Mail me back at this address or call
> 708-364-2600 ask for Drew, Thanks
>
>

 

So, what's your real name? It says Pam on the post, but you signed it Drew?

True, people in general are stupid and don't spend time doing any research.
Their mistake is trusting people, especially car sales people. We all know
that car SALES is what a dealership does and they don't care how they make
it or how stupid people can be. They want to move money from the buyer's
account to theirs.

I guess it's a matter of business ethics: do you think it's right or wrong
to take advantage of people (for whatever reason)? Of course that's a
rhetorical question as I don't expect anyone to answer it.

All that aside, I've been in other newsgroups long enough to know you don't
come in here advertising or soliciting. You have violated one of the most
prominent etiquette rules in newsgroups.

I for one have ABSOLUTELY NO COMPASSION FOR DEALERSHIPS as they charge top
dollar to do marginal work. So, I educate myself and do my own work. What's
beyond my capability I take to a trusted, local, mechanic.

In short, don't cry to me about making more money and using a newsgroup to
do it. There are plenty of other suckers out there: they're on YOUR lot.
"Pamela D'Aoust" <pdjpdjpd@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:4rIMc.133209$OB3.58851@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Looking to increase my earning potential, I sell Hondas at a Chicago Area
> Dealer
> Community Honda Orland Park Il. E-Mail me back at this address or call
> 708-364-2600 ask for Drew, Thanks
>
>

 

"Pamela D'Aoust" <pdjpdjpd@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<4rIMc.133209$OB3.58851@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
> Looking to increase my earning potential, I sell Hondas at a Chicago Area
> Dealer
> Community Honda Orland Park Il. E-Mail me back at this address or call
> 708-364-2600 ask for Drew, Thanks

What an odd post.....It's not spam, yet it's horrible advertising. I
wouldn't stop there after seeing this!

LOL

 

"Pamela D'Aoust" <pdjpdjpd@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<4rIMc.133209$OB3.58851@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
> Looking to increase my earning potential, I sell Hondas at a Chicago Area
> Dealer
> Community Honda Orland Park Il. E-Mail me back at this address or call
> 708-364-2600 ask for Drew, Thanks

What an odd post.....It's not spam, yet it's horrible advertising. I
wouldn't stop there after seeing this!

LOL