Honda Coolant??
08-21-2004 | 03:51 PM
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Re: Honda Coolant??
On 8/21/04 2:43 PM, in article yBNVc.164401$8_6.1710@attbi_s04, "L Alpert"
<alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote:
> Caroline wrote:
>> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote
>>> _chris_ wrote:
>>>> really? 4x
>>>>
>>>> Cdn tire coolant $10
>>>> Honda Coolant $15
>>>>
>>>> Oh Last time I checked HONDA only fluids except oil are recommended.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>
>>> Honda fluids are more then likely made by another manufacturer under
>>> contract and labeled as Honda. The probability that "Honda"
>>> antifreeze specifications are much different from, say a Prestone
>>> brand, are pretty low.
>>
>> Just chiming in so that the marketplace of ideas is as efficient as
>> possible.
>>
>> The probability that Honda antifreeze specs are much different from
>> Prestone is, IMO, pretty high.
>>
>> This is based on a lot of reading here at the newsgroup and my own
>> experience with green Prestone.
>>
>> I am currently using Havoline Dex cool (the orange stuff), but I know
>> I'm rolling the dice. Almost two years with the stuff (after what I'd
>> call an extremely thorough flush)
>> and all's well.
>>
>> I recommend anyone not handy with cars and who wants to sleep well at
>> night pay the extra money and go with the Honda anti-freeze.
>
> Unless someone can show me that:
>
> 1. Honda systems are vastly different from the rest auto industry
> 2. That the actual specs of their fluids are different then other industry
> standards (DOT 3 brake fluid, antifreeze, oils)
>
> I would not purchase Honda specific fluids. 5-20 weight oil has a minimum
> standard specification that the industry needs to adhere to. Honda oil is
> probably manufactured by Mobile or Quaker State........
>
> I sleep just fine with off the shelf antifreeze.
>
>
Enough people have experienced premature water pump self-destruction by
using green Prestone that there should be little or no doubt remaining.
I don't understand why people will spend ten of thousands of dollars on a
machine and then refuse to follow the manufacturer's recommendations for
maintaining it.
<alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote:
> Caroline wrote:
>> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote
>>> _chris_ wrote:
>>>> really? 4x
>>>>
>>>> Cdn tire coolant $10
>>>> Honda Coolant $15
>>>>
>>>> Oh Last time I checked HONDA only fluids except oil are recommended.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>
>>> Honda fluids are more then likely made by another manufacturer under
>>> contract and labeled as Honda. The probability that "Honda"
>>> antifreeze specifications are much different from, say a Prestone
>>> brand, are pretty low.
>>
>> Just chiming in so that the marketplace of ideas is as efficient as
>> possible.
>>
>> The probability that Honda antifreeze specs are much different from
>> Prestone is, IMO, pretty high.
>>
>> This is based on a lot of reading here at the newsgroup and my own
>> experience with green Prestone.
>>
>> I am currently using Havoline Dex cool (the orange stuff), but I know
>> I'm rolling the dice. Almost two years with the stuff (after what I'd
>> call an extremely thorough flush)
>> and all's well.
>>
>> I recommend anyone not handy with cars and who wants to sleep well at
>> night pay the extra money and go with the Honda anti-freeze.
>
> Unless someone can show me that:
>
> 1. Honda systems are vastly different from the rest auto industry
> 2. That the actual specs of their fluids are different then other industry
> standards (DOT 3 brake fluid, antifreeze, oils)
>
> I would not purchase Honda specific fluids. 5-20 weight oil has a minimum
> standard specification that the industry needs to adhere to. Honda oil is
> probably manufactured by Mobile or Quaker State........
>
> I sleep just fine with off the shelf antifreeze.
>
>
Enough people have experienced premature water pump self-destruction by
using green Prestone that there should be little or no doubt remaining.
I don't understand why people will spend ten of thousands of dollars on a
machine and then refuse to follow the manufacturer's recommendations for
maintaining it.
08-21-2004 | 03:51 PM
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Re: Honda Coolant??
On 8/21/04 2:43 PM, in article yBNVc.164401$8_6.1710@attbi_s04, "L Alpert"
<alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote:
> Caroline wrote:
>> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote
>>> _chris_ wrote:
>>>> really? 4x
>>>>
>>>> Cdn tire coolant $10
>>>> Honda Coolant $15
>>>>
>>>> Oh Last time I checked HONDA only fluids except oil are recommended.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>
>>> Honda fluids are more then likely made by another manufacturer under
>>> contract and labeled as Honda. The probability that "Honda"
>>> antifreeze specifications are much different from, say a Prestone
>>> brand, are pretty low.
>>
>> Just chiming in so that the marketplace of ideas is as efficient as
>> possible.
>>
>> The probability that Honda antifreeze specs are much different from
>> Prestone is, IMO, pretty high.
>>
>> This is based on a lot of reading here at the newsgroup and my own
>> experience with green Prestone.
>>
>> I am currently using Havoline Dex cool (the orange stuff), but I know
>> I'm rolling the dice. Almost two years with the stuff (after what I'd
>> call an extremely thorough flush)
>> and all's well.
>>
>> I recommend anyone not handy with cars and who wants to sleep well at
>> night pay the extra money and go with the Honda anti-freeze.
>
> Unless someone can show me that:
>
> 1. Honda systems are vastly different from the rest auto industry
> 2. That the actual specs of their fluids are different then other industry
> standards (DOT 3 brake fluid, antifreeze, oils)
>
> I would not purchase Honda specific fluids. 5-20 weight oil has a minimum
> standard specification that the industry needs to adhere to. Honda oil is
> probably manufactured by Mobile or Quaker State........
>
> I sleep just fine with off the shelf antifreeze.
>
>
Enough people have experienced premature water pump self-destruction by
using green Prestone that there should be little or no doubt remaining.
I don't understand why people will spend ten of thousands of dollars on a
machine and then refuse to follow the manufacturer's recommendations for
maintaining it.
<alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote:
> Caroline wrote:
>> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote
>>> _chris_ wrote:
>>>> really? 4x
>>>>
>>>> Cdn tire coolant $10
>>>> Honda Coolant $15
>>>>
>>>> Oh Last time I checked HONDA only fluids except oil are recommended.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>
>>> Honda fluids are more then likely made by another manufacturer under
>>> contract and labeled as Honda. The probability that "Honda"
>>> antifreeze specifications are much different from, say a Prestone
>>> brand, are pretty low.
>>
>> Just chiming in so that the marketplace of ideas is as efficient as
>> possible.
>>
>> The probability that Honda antifreeze specs are much different from
>> Prestone is, IMO, pretty high.
>>
>> This is based on a lot of reading here at the newsgroup and my own
>> experience with green Prestone.
>>
>> I am currently using Havoline Dex cool (the orange stuff), but I know
>> I'm rolling the dice. Almost two years with the stuff (after what I'd
>> call an extremely thorough flush)
>> and all's well.
>>
>> I recommend anyone not handy with cars and who wants to sleep well at
>> night pay the extra money and go with the Honda anti-freeze.
>
> Unless someone can show me that:
>
> 1. Honda systems are vastly different from the rest auto industry
> 2. That the actual specs of their fluids are different then other industry
> standards (DOT 3 brake fluid, antifreeze, oils)
>
> I would not purchase Honda specific fluids. 5-20 weight oil has a minimum
> standard specification that the industry needs to adhere to. Honda oil is
> probably manufactured by Mobile or Quaker State........
>
> I sleep just fine with off the shelf antifreeze.
>
>
Enough people have experienced premature water pump self-destruction by
using green Prestone that there should be little or no doubt remaining.
I don't understand why people will spend ten of thousands of dollars on a
machine and then refuse to follow the manufacturer's recommendations for
maintaining it.
08-21-2004 | 06:52 PM
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Re: Honda Coolant??
E. Meyer wrote:
> On 8/21/04 2:43 PM, in article yBNVc.164401$8_6.1710@attbi_s04, "L
> Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Caroline wrote:
>>> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote
>>>> _chris_ wrote:
>>>>> really? 4x
>>>>>
>>>>> Cdn tire coolant $10
>>>>> Honda Coolant $15
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh Last time I checked HONDA only fluids except oil are
>>>>> recommended.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> Honda fluids are more then likely made by another manufacturer
>>>> under contract and labeled as Honda. The probability that "Honda"
>>>> antifreeze specifications are much different from, say a Prestone
>>>> brand, are pretty low.
>>>
>>> Just chiming in so that the marketplace of ideas is as efficient as
>>> possible.
>>>
>>> The probability that Honda antifreeze specs are much different from
>>> Prestone is, IMO, pretty high.
>>>
>>> This is based on a lot of reading here at the newsgroup and my own
>>> experience with green Prestone.
>>>
>>> I am currently using Havoline Dex cool (the orange stuff), but I
>>> know I'm rolling the dice. Almost two years with the stuff (after
>>> what I'd call an extremely thorough flush)
>>> and all's well.
>>>
>>> I recommend anyone not handy with cars and who wants to sleep well
>>> at night pay the extra money and go with the Honda anti-freeze.
>>
>> Unless someone can show me that:
>>
>> 1. Honda systems are vastly different from the rest auto industry
>> 2. That the actual specs of their fluids are different then other
>> industry standards (DOT 3 brake fluid, antifreeze, oils)
>>
>> I would not purchase Honda specific fluids. 5-20 weight oil has a
>> minimum standard specification that the industry needs to adhere to.
>> Honda oil is probably manufactured by Mobile or Quaker State........
>>
>> I sleep just fine with off the shelf antifreeze.
>>
>>
>
> Enough people have experienced premature water pump self-destruction
> by using green Prestone that there should be little or no doubt
> remaining.
>
> I don't understand why people will spend ten of thousands of dollars
> on a machine and then refuse to follow the manufacturer's
> recommendations for maintaining it.
There are many alternatives to the Prestone "green" fluid, though over the
past 30+ years of driving, I have used it, and never had a water pump fail.
Again, if you wish to pay more for the same basic thing to feel better about
it, it is a free country. The perception of a benefit is not enough for me.
> On 8/21/04 2:43 PM, in article yBNVc.164401$8_6.1710@attbi_s04, "L
> Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Caroline wrote:
>>> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote
>>>> _chris_ wrote:
>>>>> really? 4x
>>>>>
>>>>> Cdn tire coolant $10
>>>>> Honda Coolant $15
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh Last time I checked HONDA only fluids except oil are
>>>>> recommended.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> Honda fluids are more then likely made by another manufacturer
>>>> under contract and labeled as Honda. The probability that "Honda"
>>>> antifreeze specifications are much different from, say a Prestone
>>>> brand, are pretty low.
>>>
>>> Just chiming in so that the marketplace of ideas is as efficient as
>>> possible.
>>>
>>> The probability that Honda antifreeze specs are much different from
>>> Prestone is, IMO, pretty high.
>>>
>>> This is based on a lot of reading here at the newsgroup and my own
>>> experience with green Prestone.
>>>
>>> I am currently using Havoline Dex cool (the orange stuff), but I
>>> know I'm rolling the dice. Almost two years with the stuff (after
>>> what I'd call an extremely thorough flush)
>>> and all's well.
>>>
>>> I recommend anyone not handy with cars and who wants to sleep well
>>> at night pay the extra money and go with the Honda anti-freeze.
>>
>> Unless someone can show me that:
>>
>> 1. Honda systems are vastly different from the rest auto industry
>> 2. That the actual specs of their fluids are different then other
>> industry standards (DOT 3 brake fluid, antifreeze, oils)
>>
>> I would not purchase Honda specific fluids. 5-20 weight oil has a
>> minimum standard specification that the industry needs to adhere to.
>> Honda oil is probably manufactured by Mobile or Quaker State........
>>
>> I sleep just fine with off the shelf antifreeze.
>>
>>
>
> Enough people have experienced premature water pump self-destruction
> by using green Prestone that there should be little or no doubt
> remaining.
>
> I don't understand why people will spend ten of thousands of dollars
> on a machine and then refuse to follow the manufacturer's
> recommendations for maintaining it.
There are many alternatives to the Prestone "green" fluid, though over the
past 30+ years of driving, I have used it, and never had a water pump fail.
Again, if you wish to pay more for the same basic thing to feel better about
it, it is a free country. The perception of a benefit is not enough for me.
08-21-2004 | 06:52 PM
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Re: Honda Coolant??
E. Meyer wrote:
> On 8/21/04 2:43 PM, in article yBNVc.164401$8_6.1710@attbi_s04, "L
> Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Caroline wrote:
>>> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote
>>>> _chris_ wrote:
>>>>> really? 4x
>>>>>
>>>>> Cdn tire coolant $10
>>>>> Honda Coolant $15
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh Last time I checked HONDA only fluids except oil are
>>>>> recommended.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> Honda fluids are more then likely made by another manufacturer
>>>> under contract and labeled as Honda. The probability that "Honda"
>>>> antifreeze specifications are much different from, say a Prestone
>>>> brand, are pretty low.
>>>
>>> Just chiming in so that the marketplace of ideas is as efficient as
>>> possible.
>>>
>>> The probability that Honda antifreeze specs are much different from
>>> Prestone is, IMO, pretty high.
>>>
>>> This is based on a lot of reading here at the newsgroup and my own
>>> experience with green Prestone.
>>>
>>> I am currently using Havoline Dex cool (the orange stuff), but I
>>> know I'm rolling the dice. Almost two years with the stuff (after
>>> what I'd call an extremely thorough flush)
>>> and all's well.
>>>
>>> I recommend anyone not handy with cars and who wants to sleep well
>>> at night pay the extra money and go with the Honda anti-freeze.
>>
>> Unless someone can show me that:
>>
>> 1. Honda systems are vastly different from the rest auto industry
>> 2. That the actual specs of their fluids are different then other
>> industry standards (DOT 3 brake fluid, antifreeze, oils)
>>
>> I would not purchase Honda specific fluids. 5-20 weight oil has a
>> minimum standard specification that the industry needs to adhere to.
>> Honda oil is probably manufactured by Mobile or Quaker State........
>>
>> I sleep just fine with off the shelf antifreeze.
>>
>>
>
> Enough people have experienced premature water pump self-destruction
> by using green Prestone that there should be little or no doubt
> remaining.
>
> I don't understand why people will spend ten of thousands of dollars
> on a machine and then refuse to follow the manufacturer's
> recommendations for maintaining it.
There are many alternatives to the Prestone "green" fluid, though over the
past 30+ years of driving, I have used it, and never had a water pump fail.
Again, if you wish to pay more for the same basic thing to feel better about
it, it is a free country. The perception of a benefit is not enough for me.
> On 8/21/04 2:43 PM, in article yBNVc.164401$8_6.1710@attbi_s04, "L
> Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Caroline wrote:
>>> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote
>>>> _chris_ wrote:
>>>>> really? 4x
>>>>>
>>>>> Cdn tire coolant $10
>>>>> Honda Coolant $15
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh Last time I checked HONDA only fluids except oil are
>>>>> recommended.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> Honda fluids are more then likely made by another manufacturer
>>>> under contract and labeled as Honda. The probability that "Honda"
>>>> antifreeze specifications are much different from, say a Prestone
>>>> brand, are pretty low.
>>>
>>> Just chiming in so that the marketplace of ideas is as efficient as
>>> possible.
>>>
>>> The probability that Honda antifreeze specs are much different from
>>> Prestone is, IMO, pretty high.
>>>
>>> This is based on a lot of reading here at the newsgroup and my own
>>> experience with green Prestone.
>>>
>>> I am currently using Havoline Dex cool (the orange stuff), but I
>>> know I'm rolling the dice. Almost two years with the stuff (after
>>> what I'd call an extremely thorough flush)
>>> and all's well.
>>>
>>> I recommend anyone not handy with cars and who wants to sleep well
>>> at night pay the extra money and go with the Honda anti-freeze.
>>
>> Unless someone can show me that:
>>
>> 1. Honda systems are vastly different from the rest auto industry
>> 2. That the actual specs of their fluids are different then other
>> industry standards (DOT 3 brake fluid, antifreeze, oils)
>>
>> I would not purchase Honda specific fluids. 5-20 weight oil has a
>> minimum standard specification that the industry needs to adhere to.
>> Honda oil is probably manufactured by Mobile or Quaker State........
>>
>> I sleep just fine with off the shelf antifreeze.
>>
>>
>
> Enough people have experienced premature water pump self-destruction
> by using green Prestone that there should be little or no doubt
> remaining.
>
> I don't understand why people will spend ten of thousands of dollars
> on a machine and then refuse to follow the manufacturer's
> recommendations for maintaining it.
There are many alternatives to the Prestone "green" fluid, though over the
past 30+ years of driving, I have used it, and never had a water pump fail.
Again, if you wish to pay more for the same basic thing to feel better about
it, it is a free country. The perception of a benefit is not enough for me.
08-21-2004 | 07:15 PM
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Re: Honda Coolant??
"L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message
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> There are many alternatives to the Prestone "green" fluid, though over the
> past 30+ years of driving, I have used it, and never had a water pump
fail.
30 years of Hondas?
08-21-2004 | 07:15 PM
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Re: Honda Coolant??
"L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message
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> There are many alternatives to the Prestone "green" fluid, though over the
> past 30+ years of driving, I have used it, and never had a water pump
fail.
30 years of Hondas?
08-21-2004 | 08:44 PM
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Re: Honda Coolant??
"_chris_" <chris_farr@sympatico.ca> wrote in news:OTJVc.39259$Tr.1976462
@news20.bellglobal.com:
> really? 4x
>
> Cdn tire coolant $10
> Honda Coolant $15
>
> Oh Last time I checked HONDA only fluids except oil are recommended.
>
> Chris
>
>
Yes, but the honda coolant has water in it already so it's diluted...is the
cdn tire coolant diluted?
@news20.bellglobal.com:
> really? 4x
>
> Cdn tire coolant $10
> Honda Coolant $15
>
> Oh Last time I checked HONDA only fluids except oil are recommended.
>
> Chris
>
>
Yes, but the honda coolant has water in it already so it's diluted...is the
cdn tire coolant diluted?
08-21-2004 | 08:44 PM
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Re: Honda Coolant??
"_chris_" <chris_farr@sympatico.ca> wrote in news:OTJVc.39259$Tr.1976462
@news20.bellglobal.com:
> really? 4x
>
> Cdn tire coolant $10
> Honda Coolant $15
>
> Oh Last time I checked HONDA only fluids except oil are recommended.
>
> Chris
>
>
Yes, but the honda coolant has water in it already so it's diluted...is the
cdn tire coolant diluted?
@news20.bellglobal.com:
> really? 4x
>
> Cdn tire coolant $10
> Honda Coolant $15
>
> Oh Last time I checked HONDA only fluids except oil are recommended.
>
> Chris
>
>
Yes, but the honda coolant has water in it already so it's diluted...is the
cdn tire coolant diluted?
08-21-2004 | 08:53 PM
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Re: Honda Coolant??
Steve Bigelow wrote:
> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message
> news:rmQVc.17438$9d6.8403@attbi_s54...
>
>> There are many alternatives to the Prestone "green" fluid, though
>> over the past 30+ years of driving, I have used it, and never had a
>> water pump fail.
>
>
> 30 years of Hondas?
The majority of them Honda or Toyota.
> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message
> news:rmQVc.17438$9d6.8403@attbi_s54...
>
>> There are many alternatives to the Prestone "green" fluid, though
>> over the past 30+ years of driving, I have used it, and never had a
>> water pump fail.
>
>
> 30 years of Hondas?
The majority of them Honda or Toyota.
08-21-2004 | 08:53 PM
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Steve Bigelow wrote:
> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message
> news:rmQVc.17438$9d6.8403@attbi_s54...
>
>> There are many alternatives to the Prestone "green" fluid, though
>> over the past 30+ years of driving, I have used it, and never had a
>> water pump fail.
>
>
> 30 years of Hondas?
The majority of them Honda or Toyota.
> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message
> news:rmQVc.17438$9d6.8403@attbi_s54...
>
>> There are many alternatives to the Prestone "green" fluid, though
>> over the past 30+ years of driving, I have used it, and never had a
>> water pump fail.
>
>
> 30 years of Hondas?
The majority of them Honda or Toyota.
08-22-2004 | 08:20 AM
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Re: Honda Coolant??
"L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message
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> Steve Bigelow wrote:
> > "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:rmQVc.17438$9d6.8403@attbi_s54...
> >
> >> There are many alternatives to the Prestone "green" fluid, though
> >> over the past 30+ years of driving, I have used it, and never had a
> >> water pump fail.
> >
> >
> > 30 years of Hondas?
>
> The majority of them Honda or Toyota.
So..."No."
thanks!
08-22-2004 | 08:20 AM
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Re: Honda Coolant??
"L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message
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> Steve Bigelow wrote:
> > "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:rmQVc.17438$9d6.8403@attbi_s54...
> >
> >> There are many alternatives to the Prestone "green" fluid, though
> >> over the past 30+ years of driving, I have used it, and never had a
> >> water pump fail.
> >
> >
> > 30 years of Hondas?
>
> The majority of them Honda or Toyota.
So..."No."
thanks!
08-22-2004 | 09:46 AM
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Re: Honda Coolant??
"L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message
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> Steve Bigelow wrote:
> > "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:f8SVc.293110$a24.199497@attbi_s03...
> >> Steve Bigelow wrote:
> >>> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:rmQVc.17438$9d6.8403@attbi_s54...
> >>>
> >>>> There are many alternatives to the Prestone "green" fluid, though
> >>>> over the past 30+ years of driving, I have used it, and never had a
> >>>> water pump fail.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 30 years of Hondas?
> >>
> >> The majority of them Honda or Toyota.
> >
> > So..."No."
> >
> > thanks!
>
> Now that made a lot of sense
So, 30 years of Hondas?