Seth coughed up:

....[rip]...

> I would undo what you did and go with my wiring scheme. Here you
> know you are only powering the cig lighter 24x7 and nothing else.

You guys have been great.

Ok, I've taken yours and Randolf's and other's advice and undid what I did.
The system is back to normal. Relay has clicked back open. Now....

I've looked carefully at the cig lighter, and cannot determine how to pull
it out of it's enclosure in the dash. I don't have a service manual for
this thing (I think I'll go buy a bentley manual for it soon---I have one
for my audi, and they're pretty good).

Can you point to someplace on the web that can help me figure out what to
undo? Is it a simple paragraph of explanation? I've opened up several
dashboads in my time, but the mounts for this one seem pretty concealed, and
at least /tight/.

Thanks!!!!


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Thomas G. Marshall coughed up:

....[rip]...

> Question: Is it possible that the 10A line is for controlling the
> relay /only/ and that the relay is actually a 50A line or something
> larger to drive the pull from a plugged in cig lighter?


Clumsy way of asking: Does a cig lighter draw more than 10 amps? I don't
want to blow the 10A fuse I put in should someone push it in by mistake.
Does the relay actually control a heaftier line I wonder...


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Thomas G. Marshall coughed up:

....[rip]...

> Question: Is it possible that the 10A line is for controlling the
> relay /only/ and that the relay is actually a 50A line or something
> larger to drive the pull from a plugged in cig lighter?


Clumsy way of asking: Does a cig lighter draw more than 10 amps? I don't
want to blow the 10A fuse I put in should someone push it in by mistake.
Does the relay actually control a heaftier line I wonder...


....[rip]...



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"Thomas G. Marshall" <tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail. com>
wrote in message news:JpQed.1717$eU2.610@trndny05...
>
> Question: Is it possible that the 10A line is for controlling the relay
> /only/ and that the relay is actually a 50A line or something larger to
> drive the pull from a plugged in cig lighter?

Probably not.

 

"Thomas G. Marshall" <tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail. com>
wrote in message news:JpQed.1717$eU2.610@trndny05...
>
> Question: Is it possible that the 10A line is for controlling the relay
> /only/ and that the relay is actually a 50A line or something larger to
> drive the pull from a plugged in cig lighter?

Probably not.

 

"Thomas G. Marshall" wrote:

<snip>

(I think I'll go buy a bentley manual for it soon---I have one
> for my audi, and they're pretty good).

Yes, Bentley makes excellent service manuals. Too bad they are not
available for Honda. You can get a Haynes manual at a pretty low cost,
but for Honda, the Bentley equivalent is the factory manual that you can
get from http://www.helminc.com.

 

"Thomas G. Marshall" wrote:

<snip>

(I think I'll go buy a bentley manual for it soon---I have one
> for my audi, and they're pretty good).

Yes, Bentley makes excellent service manuals. Too bad they are not
available for Honda. You can get a Haynes manual at a pretty low cost,
but for Honda, the Bentley equivalent is the factory manual that you can
get from http://www.helminc.com.

 

Seth coughed up:
> "Thomas G. Marshall"
> <tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail. com> wrote in
> message news:JpQed.1717$eU2.610@trndny05...
>>
>> Question: Is it possible that the 10A line is for controlling the
>> relay /only/ and that the relay is actually a 50A line or something
>> larger to drive the pull from a plugged in cig lighter?
>
> Probably not.


Ok, now I'm feeling a more than a little stupid. The fuse socket for the
cig lighter is now flakey, presumably from a slightly odd sized blade
connector that I slid into it.

The blade wasn't too wide overall, it was only too wide at the tip being
rectangular instead of what the mini-fuse is, which is pointed.

So {author gets a rope ready for hanging} what does a new fuse "block" cost.
Just the grid of receptacles (sockets)----everything else will just move
from my old one to my new one.

Go ahead, yuck it up....

I can "rig" it for now by shimming a wire or something in there. OI.



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Seth coughed up:
> "Thomas G. Marshall"
> <tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail. com> wrote in
> message news:JpQed.1717$eU2.610@trndny05...
>>
>> Question: Is it possible that the 10A line is for controlling the
>> relay /only/ and that the relay is actually a 50A line or something
>> larger to drive the pull from a plugged in cig lighter?
>
> Probably not.


Ok, now I'm feeling a more than a little stupid. The fuse socket for the
cig lighter is now flakey, presumably from a slightly odd sized blade
connector that I slid into it.

The blade wasn't too wide overall, it was only too wide at the tip being
rectangular instead of what the mini-fuse is, which is pointed.

So {author gets a rope ready for hanging} what does a new fuse "block" cost.
Just the grid of receptacles (sockets)----everything else will just move
from my old one to my new one.

Go ahead, yuck it up....

I can "rig" it for now by shimming a wire or something in there. OI.



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Kentucky,TheplacewhereIwasbornandraised.Forsixlong yearsI'vebeenin
trouble,NopleasureshereonearthIfound.Forinthisworl dI'mboundtoramble,
Ihavenofriendstohelpmenow....Maybeyourfriendsthink I'mjustastrangerMyface,
you'llneverseenomore.Butthereisonepromisethatisgiv enI'llmeetyouonGod's
goldenshore.

 

Randolph coughed up:
> "Thomas G. Marshall" wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> (I think I'll go buy a bentley manual for it soon---I have one
>> for my audi, and they're pretty good).
>
> Yes, Bentley makes excellent service manuals. Too bad they are not
> available for Honda. You can get a Haynes manual at a pretty low cost,
> but for Honda, the Bentley equivalent is the factory manual that you
> can get from http://www.helminc.com.

I'm planning on hanging my own cig socket off of the power that we
discussed.

Is it ok to use a bolt on the chassis for ground? I know that the chassis
/is/ ground anyway, but should I find a "cleaner" ground of some kind?

Also, what are the potential ill effects should someone plug in something
more hefty than my phone charger into something grounded directly to the
chassis?

Almost there (in the short term until I get the manual or someone helps me
pull out the /normal/ cigarette lighter socket.)

Thanks!

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/anything/.

 

Randolph coughed up:
> "Thomas G. Marshall" wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> (I think I'll go buy a bentley manual for it soon---I have one
>> for my audi, and they're pretty good).
>
> Yes, Bentley makes excellent service manuals. Too bad they are not
> available for Honda. You can get a Haynes manual at a pretty low cost,
> but for Honda, the Bentley equivalent is the factory manual that you
> can get from http://www.helminc.com.

I'm planning on hanging my own cig socket off of the power that we
discussed.

Is it ok to use a bolt on the chassis for ground? I know that the chassis
/is/ ground anyway, but should I find a "cleaner" ground of some kind?

Also, what are the potential ill effects should someone plug in something
more hefty than my phone charger into something grounded directly to the
chassis?

Almost there (in the short term until I get the manual or someone helps me
pull out the /normal/ cigarette lighter socket.)

Thanks!

--
http://www.allexperts.com is a nifty way to get an answer to just about
/anything/.

 

"Thomas G. Marshall" wrote:
>
> Ok, now I'm feeling a more than a little stupid. The fuse socket for the
> cig lighter is now flakey, presumably from a slightly odd sized blade
> connector that I slid into it.
>
> The blade wasn't too wide overall, it was only too wide at the tip being
> rectangular instead of what the mini-fuse is, which is pointed.
>
> So {author gets a rope ready for hanging} what does a new fuse "block" cost.
> Just the grid of receptacles (sockets)----everything else will just move
> from my old one to my new one.

The fuse box (item 5 at http://tinyurl.com/6zl23) is only about $60 from
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com. They add about $5 for handling and
count on another $5 for shipping.

 

"Thomas G. Marshall" wrote:
>
> Ok, now I'm feeling a more than a little stupid. The fuse socket for the
> cig lighter is now flakey, presumably from a slightly odd sized blade
> connector that I slid into it.
>
> The blade wasn't too wide overall, it was only too wide at the tip being
> rectangular instead of what the mini-fuse is, which is pointed.
>
> So {author gets a rope ready for hanging} what does a new fuse "block" cost.
> Just the grid of receptacles (sockets)----everything else will just move
> from my old one to my new one.

The fuse box (item 5 at http://tinyurl.com/6zl23) is only about $60 from
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com. They add about $5 for handling and
count on another $5 for shipping.

 

"Thomas G. Marshall" wrote:

<snip>

> Can you point to someplace on the web that can help me figure out what to
> undo? Is it a simple paragraph of explanation? I've opened up several
> dashboads in my time, but the mounts for this one seem pretty concealed, and
> at least /tight/.

Well, isn't his your lucky day. See http://tinyurl.com/6xhvs. (this goes
to http://www.installdr.com). This document is about installing a new
stereo in your car, and part of that process is to take off the panel
where the lighter sits.

 

"Thomas G. Marshall" wrote:

<snip>

> Can you point to someplace on the web that can help me figure out what to
> undo? Is it a simple paragraph of explanation? I've opened up several
> dashboads in my time, but the mounts for this one seem pretty concealed, and
> at least /tight/.

Well, isn't his your lucky day. See http://tinyurl.com/6xhvs. (this goes
to http://www.installdr.com). This document is about installing a new
stereo in your car, and part of that process is to take off the panel
where the lighter sits.