We've been shopping for a new car for 6 months and have narrowed it down
to either the Civic coupe or Versa SL with the cvt. Now, we're stuck 50
50. Any advice or comments would be GREATLY appreciated.

 

dubbya wrote:
> We've been shopping for a new car for 6 months and have narrowed it down
> to either the Civic coupe or Versa SL with the cvt. Now, we're stuck 50
> 50. Any advice or comments would be GREATLY appreciated.


We live in Winnipeg, Manitoba

 

On Mar 26, 5:46 am, dubbya <d...@ccc.ca> wrote:
> dubbya wrote:
> > We've been shopping for a new car for 6 months and have narrowed it down
> > to either the Civic coupe or Versa SL with the cvt. Now, we're stuck 50
> > 50. Any advice or comments would be GREATLY appreciated.
>
> We live in Winnipeg, Manitoba

i recommend the civic the versa hp ratings and looks are very dull but
honda is cool

 

The mechanical etc. reliability of Nissans is much worse
than that of Hondas. See this year's and past years' April
issue of Consumer Reports.

"dubbya" <dubb@ccc.ca> wrote
> We've been shopping for a new car for 6 months and have
> narrowed it down to either the Civic coupe or Versa SL
> with the cvt. Now, we're stuck 50 50. Any advice or
> comments would be GREATLY appreciated.

 

Looking at that issue, its not that black and white between the specific
Honda and Nissan being considered. The Nissan is certainly not "much
worse". The Versa SL with a CVT is rated in the average range with an
overall score of 65/100, definitely above the line.

The Civic coupe is rated above average with a score of 78/100, but not
distinguished the way you make it sound.

I have owned 4 different Hondas & Acuras and 5 different Nissans &
Infinitis. My personal opinion is that the Nissans are more fun to drive.

Based on experience, defining reliability as the amount of my money spent on
repairs, there has been no major differences among them. The Nissans (a
240sx, 2 i30s, a Maxima and a Pathfinder) and the Hondas (an Accord, a CR-V,
a TL and an Odyssey) have all been the same - no issues at all, just routine
maintenance. The TL did have a couple of scary transmission recalls though
& a front upper ball joint failed while it was under warranty.

My advice is to spend some more time with each car and get the one that
feels right to you, not necessarily the one that looks the best on paper.
Reliability is not likely to be a significant issue either way.

On 3/26/08 11:05 AM, in article cuuGj.12206$6J3.8977@newsfe13.phx, "Elle"
<honda.lioness@spamnocox.net> wrote:

> The mechanical etc. reliability of Nissans is much worse
> than that of Hondas. See this year's and past years' April
> issue of Consumer Reports.
>
> "dubbya" <dubb@ccc.ca> wrote
>> We've been shopping for a new car for 6 months and have
>> narrowed it down to either the Civic coupe or Versa SL
>> with the cvt. Now, we're stuck 50 50. Any advice or
>> comments would be GREATLY appreciated.
>
>

 

"E Meyer" <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote in message
news:C4101806.2F1F3%epmeyer50@msn.com...
> Looking at that issue, its not that black and white between the specific
> Honda and Nissan being considered. The Nissan is certainly not "much
> worse". The Versa SL with a CVT is rated in the average range with an
> overall score of 65/100, definitely above the line.
>
> The Civic coupe is rated above average with a score of 78/100, but not
> distinguished the way you make it sound.
>
> I have owned 4 different Hondas & Acuras and 5 different Nissans &
> Infinitis. My personal opinion is that the Nissans are more fun to drive.
>
> Based on experience, defining reliability as the amount of my money spent
> on
> repairs, there has been no major differences among them. The Nissans (a
> 240sx, 2 i30s, a Maxima and a Pathfinder) and the Hondas (an Accord, a
> CR-V,
> a TL and an Odyssey) have all been the same - no issues at all, just
> routine
> maintenance. The TL did have a couple of scary transmission recalls
> though
> & a front upper ball joint failed while it was under warranty.

Having owned Datsuns and then Nissans, my experience has been that Datsuns
were better. The 75 280Z and then 78 810 I owned were great cars as were the
old B210s. I owned a couple of Maximas in the early 90s -- SE with the DOHC
engine that proved problematic with VTC problems, CV joints and electric
windows -- and the Quest we had started falling apart at 60k miles. My
experience in terms of reliability over the long term is that Honda is
better than Nissan. And, I have had far better customer service treatment
with Honda than Nissan. Of course, today it might be better since they are
owned by Renault.

>
> My advice is to spend some more time with each car and get the one that
> feels right to you, not necessarily the one that looks the best on paper.
> Reliability is not likely to be a significant issue either way.
>
> On 3/26/08 11:05 AM, in article cuuGj.12206$6J3.8977@newsfe13.phx, "Elle"
> <honda.lioness@spamnocox.net> wrote:
>
>> The mechanical etc. reliability of Nissans is much worse
>> than that of Hondas. See this year's and past years' April
>> issue of Consumer Reports.
>>
>> "dubbya" <dubb@ccc.ca> wrote
>>> We've been shopping for a new car for 6 months and have
>>> narrowed it down to either the Civic coupe or Versa SL
>>> with the cvt. Now, we're stuck 50 50. Any advice or
>>> comments would be GREATLY appreciated.
>>
>>
>

 

"dubbya" <dubb@ccc.ca> wrote in message
news:FGqGj.123076$pM4.95275@pd7urf1no...
> We've been shopping for a new car for 6 months and have narrowed it down
> to either the Civic coupe or Versa SL with the cvt. Now, we're stuck 50
> 50. Any advice or comments would be GREATLY appreciated.

Honda!! Better resale too

 

"E Meyer" <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote
> Looking at that issue, its not that black and white
> between the specific
> Honda and Nissan being considered. The Nissan is
> certainly not "much
> worse". The Versa SL with a CVT is rated in the average
> range with an
> overall score of 65/100, definitely above the line.

Go back ten years total, not just the last year or so.
Hondas are far superior when it comes to reliability.

We disagree.

 

"Elle" <honda.lioness@spamnocox.net> wrote in
news:yuAGj.77760$497.11770@newsfe14.phx:

> "E Meyer" <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote
>> Looking at that issue, its not that black and white
>> between the specific
>> Honda and Nissan being considered. The Nissan is
>> certainly not "much
>> worse". The Versa SL with a CVT is rated in the average
>> range with an
>> overall score of 65/100, definitely above the line.
>
> Go back ten years total, not just the last year or so.
> Hondas are far superior when it comes to reliability.
>
> We disagree.


I currently have(am stuck with) a 2003 Nissan SE-R Spec V,and I'm not
impressed with what I've learned about Nissans.

Off the top of my head,I think I'd buy a Kia before another Nissan.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

 

dubbya wrote:

> We've been shopping for a new car for 6 months and have narrowed it down
> to either the Civic coupe or Versa SL with the cvt. Now, we're stuck 50
> 50. Any advice or comments would be GREATLY appreciated.
Hi,
If you really short listed those two, Honda for sure.
Civic is mature going thru many generations. Versa is too new
to be refined. Traditionally Honda has higher quality overall.

 

On 3/26/08 3:26 PM, in article EgyGj.44385$0M3.24951@newsfe17.lga, "tww1491"
<twaugh5@***.net> wrote:

>
> "E Meyer" <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:C4101806.2F1F3%epmeyer50@msn.com...
>> Looking at that issue, its not that black and white between the specific
>> Honda and Nissan being considered. The Nissan is certainly not "much
>> worse". The Versa SL with a CVT is rated in the average range with an
>> overall score of 65/100, definitely above the line.
>>
>> The Civic coupe is rated above average with a score of 78/100, but not
>> distinguished the way you make it sound.
>>
>> I have owned 4 different Hondas & Acuras and 5 different Nissans &
>> Infinitis. My personal opinion is that the Nissans are more fun to drive.
>>
>> Based on experience, defining reliability as the amount of my money spent
>> on
>> repairs, there has been no major differences among them. The Nissans (a
>> 240sx, 2 i30s, a Maxima and a Pathfinder) and the Hondas (an Accord, a
>> CR-V,
>> a TL and an Odyssey) have all been the same - no issues at all, just
>> routine
>> maintenance. The TL did have a couple of scary transmission recalls
>> though
>> & a front upper ball joint failed while it was under warranty.
>
> Having owned Datsuns and then Nissans, my experience has been that Datsuns
> were better. The 75 280Z and then 78 810 I owned were great cars as were the
> old B210s. I owned a couple of Maximas in the early 90s -- SE with the DOHC
> engine that proved problematic with VTC problems, CV joints and electric
> windows -- and the Quest we had started falling apart at 60k miles. My
> experience in terms of reliability over the long term is that Honda is
> better than Nissan. And, I have had far better customer service treatment
> with Honda than Nissan. Of course, today it might be better since they are
> owned by Renault.

I would discount the Quest - it was a joint deal with Ford & build by Ford.

>
>>
>> My advice is to spend some more time with each car and get the one that
>> feels right to you, not necessarily the one that looks the best on paper.
>> Reliability is not likely to be a significant issue either way.
>>
>> On 3/26/08 11:05 AM, in article cuuGj.12206$6J3.8977@newsfe13.phx, "Elle"
>> <honda.lioness@spamnocox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The mechanical etc. reliability of Nissans is much worse
>>> than that of Hondas. See this year's and past years' April
>>> issue of Consumer Reports.
>>>
>>> "dubbya" <dubb@ccc.ca> wrote
>>>> We've been shopping for a new car for 6 months and have
>>>> narrowed it down to either the Civic coupe or Versa SL
>>>> with the cvt. Now, we're stuck 50 50. Any advice or
>>>> comments would be GREATLY appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

 

On 3/26/08 8:00 PM, in article 9lCGj.126293$pM4.28453@pd7urf1no, "Tony
Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:

> dubbya wrote:
>
>> We've been shopping for a new car for 6 months and have narrowed it down
>> to either the Civic coupe or Versa SL with the cvt. Now, we're stuck 50
>> 50. Any advice or comments would be GREATLY appreciated.
> Hi,
> If you really short listed those two, Honda for sure.
> Civic is mature going thru many generations. Versa is too new
> to be refined. Traditionally Honda has higher quality overall.

On paper, I think I agree with you, but because the Versa is a Renault, and
they are a more unknown quantity in America since they pulled out 30 years
ago.

 

"E Meyer" <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote in message
news:C4110CBE.2F203%epmeyer50@msn.com...
>
>
>
> On 3/26/08 8:00 PM, in article 9lCGj.126293$pM4.28453@pd7urf1no, "Tony
> Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> dubbya wrote:
>>
>>> We've been shopping for a new car for 6 months and have narrowed it down
>>> to either the Civic coupe or Versa SL with the cvt. Now, we're stuck 50
>>> 50. Any advice or comments would be GREATLY appreciated.
>> Hi,
>> If you really short listed those two, Honda for sure.
>> Civic is mature going thru many generations. Versa is too new
>> to be refined. Traditionally Honda has higher quality overall.
>
> On paper, I think I agree with you, but because the Versa is a Renault,
> and
> they are a more unknown quantity in America since they pulled out 30 years

Anyone remember the Dauphine?
> ago.
>

 

"tww1491" <twaugh5@***.net> wrote in message
news:TkVGj.43424$QC.21432@newsfe20.lga...
>
> "E Meyer" <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:C4110CBE.2F203%epmeyer50@msn.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/26/08 8:00 PM, in article 9lCGj.126293$pM4.28453@pd7urf1no, "Tony
>> Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
SNIPPED>>
>> On paper, I think I agree with you, but because the Versa is a Renault,
>> and
>> they are a more unknown quantity in America since they pulled out 30
>> years
>
> Anyone remember the Dauphine?
>> ago.
>>
> Yup..but do you remember it had 2 horn sounds..one for the country and one
> for the city?
>