Headlights problem
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Headlights problem
Hi everyone
I got a little problem with my 1984 Honda Prelude (I know, it's old! And
it's not to good in shape, but it still drives OK. Hopefully, this
spring, if my budget allows me, I intend to replace this one with a
similar model and a more "modern" one, like a 1991 model. I always like
the models with the popup lights.). The other day, when I put headlights
on, it came on for about 1/4 seconds, and then they both went out. I
noticed though that my hi-beams works so it couldn't be a fuse problem
(which I checked anyways and they were fine). Anyone got any ideas on
what I should be looking at and how I could fix it at home, if it's a
simple problem, or should I take my car to the garage and get them to
check it out? Thanks for any advice that anyone may be able to offer.
Anyone got any places in mind where in the Montreal region I might be
able to find a reputable dealership where I might be able to find a
second-hand Honda Prelude 1991 in excellent shape and a good financing
plan for second-hand cars?
Paul
I got a little problem with my 1984 Honda Prelude (I know, it's old! And
it's not to good in shape, but it still drives OK. Hopefully, this
spring, if my budget allows me, I intend to replace this one with a
similar model and a more "modern" one, like a 1991 model. I always like
the models with the popup lights.). The other day, when I put headlights
on, it came on for about 1/4 seconds, and then they both went out. I
noticed though that my hi-beams works so it couldn't be a fuse problem
(which I checked anyways and they were fine). Anyone got any ideas on
what I should be looking at and how I could fix it at home, if it's a
simple problem, or should I take my car to the garage and get them to
check it out? Thanks for any advice that anyone may be able to offer.
Anyone got any places in mind where in the Montreal region I might be
able to find a reputable dealership where I might be able to find a
second-hand Honda Prelude 1991 in excellent shape and a good financing
plan for second-hand cars?
Paul
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Re: Headlights problem
possible your low beam bulbs are blown, or possibly the switch for your
lights, and are you sure they are on the same fuse? on my 95 civic there are
4, low beam left and right, and high beam left and right
"Paul Mense" <anonymous@home.home> wrote in message
news:3FF6EEBF.8EAB2CB@total.net...
> Hi everyone
>
> I got a little problem with my 1984 Honda Prelude (I know, it's old! And
> it's not to good in shape, but it still drives OK. Hopefully, this
> spring, if my budget allows me, I intend to replace this one with a
> similar model and a more "modern" one, like a 1991 model. I always like
> the models with the popup lights.). The other day, when I put headlights
> on, it came on for about 1/4 seconds, and then they both went out. I
> noticed though that my hi-beams works so it couldn't be a fuse problem
> (which I checked anyways and they were fine). Anyone got any ideas on
> what I should be looking at and how I could fix it at home, if it's a
> simple problem, or should I take my car to the garage and get them to
> check it out? Thanks for any advice that anyone may be able to offer.
>
> Anyone got any places in mind where in the Montreal region I might be
> able to find a reputable dealership where I might be able to find a
> second-hand Honda Prelude 1991 in excellent shape and a good financing
> plan for second-hand cars?
>
> Paul
>
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lights, and are you sure they are on the same fuse? on my 95 civic there are
4, low beam left and right, and high beam left and right
"Paul Mense" <anonymous@home.home> wrote in message
news:3FF6EEBF.8EAB2CB@total.net...
> Hi everyone
>
> I got a little problem with my 1984 Honda Prelude (I know, it's old! And
> it's not to good in shape, but it still drives OK. Hopefully, this
> spring, if my budget allows me, I intend to replace this one with a
> similar model and a more "modern" one, like a 1991 model. I always like
> the models with the popup lights.). The other day, when I put headlights
> on, it came on for about 1/4 seconds, and then they both went out. I
> noticed though that my hi-beams works so it couldn't be a fuse problem
> (which I checked anyways and they were fine). Anyone got any ideas on
> what I should be looking at and how I could fix it at home, if it's a
> simple problem, or should I take my car to the garage and get them to
> check it out? Thanks for any advice that anyone may be able to offer.
>
> Anyone got any places in mind where in the Montreal region I might be
> able to find a reputable dealership where I might be able to find a
> second-hand Honda Prelude 1991 in excellent shape and a good financing
> plan for second-hand cars?
>
> Paul
>
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Re: Headlights problem
possible your low beam bulbs are blown, or possibly the switch for your
lights, and are you sure they are on the same fuse? on my 95 civic there are
4, low beam left and right, and high beam left and right
"Paul Mense" <anonymous@home.home> wrote in message
news:3FF6EEBF.8EAB2CB@total.net...
> Hi everyone
>
> I got a little problem with my 1984 Honda Prelude (I know, it's old! And
> it's not to good in shape, but it still drives OK. Hopefully, this
> spring, if my budget allows me, I intend to replace this one with a
> similar model and a more "modern" one, like a 1991 model. I always like
> the models with the popup lights.). The other day, when I put headlights
> on, it came on for about 1/4 seconds, and then they both went out. I
> noticed though that my hi-beams works so it couldn't be a fuse problem
> (which I checked anyways and they were fine). Anyone got any ideas on
> what I should be looking at and how I could fix it at home, if it's a
> simple problem, or should I take my car to the garage and get them to
> check it out? Thanks for any advice that anyone may be able to offer.
>
> Anyone got any places in mind where in the Montreal region I might be
> able to find a reputable dealership where I might be able to find a
> second-hand Honda Prelude 1991 in excellent shape and a good financing
> plan for second-hand cars?
>
> Paul
>
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lights, and are you sure they are on the same fuse? on my 95 civic there are
4, low beam left and right, and high beam left and right
"Paul Mense" <anonymous@home.home> wrote in message
news:3FF6EEBF.8EAB2CB@total.net...
> Hi everyone
>
> I got a little problem with my 1984 Honda Prelude (I know, it's old! And
> it's not to good in shape, but it still drives OK. Hopefully, this
> spring, if my budget allows me, I intend to replace this one with a
> similar model and a more "modern" one, like a 1991 model. I always like
> the models with the popup lights.). The other day, when I put headlights
> on, it came on for about 1/4 seconds, and then they both went out. I
> noticed though that my hi-beams works so it couldn't be a fuse problem
> (which I checked anyways and they were fine). Anyone got any ideas on
> what I should be looking at and how I could fix it at home, if it's a
> simple problem, or should I take my car to the garage and get them to
> check it out? Thanks for any advice that anyone may be able to offer.
>
> Anyone got any places in mind where in the Montreal region I might be
> able to find a reputable dealership where I might be able to find a
> second-hand Honda Prelude 1991 in excellent shape and a good financing
> plan for second-hand cars?
>
> Paul
>
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Re: Headlights problem
possible your low beam bulbs are blown, or possibly the switch for your
lights, and are you sure they are on the same fuse? on my 95 civic there are
4, low beam left and right, and high beam left and right
"Paul Mense" <anonymous@home.home> wrote in message
news:3FF6EEBF.8EAB2CB@total.net...
> Hi everyone
>
> I got a little problem with my 1984 Honda Prelude (I know, it's old! And
> it's not to good in shape, but it still drives OK. Hopefully, this
> spring, if my budget allows me, I intend to replace this one with a
> similar model and a more "modern" one, like a 1991 model. I always like
> the models with the popup lights.). The other day, when I put headlights
> on, it came on for about 1/4 seconds, and then they both went out. I
> noticed though that my hi-beams works so it couldn't be a fuse problem
> (which I checked anyways and they were fine). Anyone got any ideas on
> what I should be looking at and how I could fix it at home, if it's a
> simple problem, or should I take my car to the garage and get them to
> check it out? Thanks for any advice that anyone may be able to offer.
>
> Anyone got any places in mind where in the Montreal region I might be
> able to find a reputable dealership where I might be able to find a
> second-hand Honda Prelude 1991 in excellent shape and a good financing
> plan for second-hand cars?
>
> Paul
>
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lights, and are you sure they are on the same fuse? on my 95 civic there are
4, low beam left and right, and high beam left and right
"Paul Mense" <anonymous@home.home> wrote in message
news:3FF6EEBF.8EAB2CB@total.net...
> Hi everyone
>
> I got a little problem with my 1984 Honda Prelude (I know, it's old! And
> it's not to good in shape, but it still drives OK. Hopefully, this
> spring, if my budget allows me, I intend to replace this one with a
> similar model and a more "modern" one, like a 1991 model. I always like
> the models with the popup lights.). The other day, when I put headlights
> on, it came on for about 1/4 seconds, and then they both went out. I
> noticed though that my hi-beams works so it couldn't be a fuse problem
> (which I checked anyways and they were fine). Anyone got any ideas on
> what I should be looking at and how I could fix it at home, if it's a
> simple problem, or should I take my car to the garage and get them to
> check it out? Thanks for any advice that anyone may be able to offer.
>
> Anyone got any places in mind where in the Montreal region I might be
> able to find a reputable dealership where I might be able to find a
> second-hand Honda Prelude 1991 in excellent shape and a good financing
> plan for second-hand cars?
>
> Paul
>
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Re: Headlights problem
I thought maybe the bulbs were blown, but both at the same time? On my 1984
Prelude, I seem to have only 2 fuses for my lights. One for the left and one for
the right and they are both fine. I checked out all the other fuses just to be
sure and they are all fine. I was thinking that perhaps the relay switch might
have blown. I tried to take out the switch to examine it more thoroughly but it
seems like it's literary clued into place. I sure don't want to try taking out
the switch only to make things worse. When it comes to auto mechanics, I'm
pretty illiterate in matters of that nature.
Paul
"M.C. Tee" wrote:
> possible your low beam bulbs are blown, or possibly the switch for your
> lights, and are you sure they are on the same fuse? on my 95 civic there are
> 4, low beam left and right, and high beam left and right
Prelude, I seem to have only 2 fuses for my lights. One for the left and one for
the right and they are both fine. I checked out all the other fuses just to be
sure and they are all fine. I was thinking that perhaps the relay switch might
have blown. I tried to take out the switch to examine it more thoroughly but it
seems like it's literary clued into place. I sure don't want to try taking out
the switch only to make things worse. When it comes to auto mechanics, I'm
pretty illiterate in matters of that nature.
Paul
"M.C. Tee" wrote:
> possible your low beam bulbs are blown, or possibly the switch for your
> lights, and are you sure they are on the same fuse? on my 95 civic there are
> 4, low beam left and right, and high beam left and right
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Re: Headlights problem
I thought maybe the bulbs were blown, but both at the same time? On my 1984
Prelude, I seem to have only 2 fuses for my lights. One for the left and one for
the right and they are both fine. I checked out all the other fuses just to be
sure and they are all fine. I was thinking that perhaps the relay switch might
have blown. I tried to take out the switch to examine it more thoroughly but it
seems like it's literary clued into place. I sure don't want to try taking out
the switch only to make things worse. When it comes to auto mechanics, I'm
pretty illiterate in matters of that nature.
Paul
"M.C. Tee" wrote:
> possible your low beam bulbs are blown, or possibly the switch for your
> lights, and are you sure they are on the same fuse? on my 95 civic there are
> 4, low beam left and right, and high beam left and right
Prelude, I seem to have only 2 fuses for my lights. One for the left and one for
the right and they are both fine. I checked out all the other fuses just to be
sure and they are all fine. I was thinking that perhaps the relay switch might
have blown. I tried to take out the switch to examine it more thoroughly but it
seems like it's literary clued into place. I sure don't want to try taking out
the switch only to make things worse. When it comes to auto mechanics, I'm
pretty illiterate in matters of that nature.
Paul
"M.C. Tee" wrote:
> possible your low beam bulbs are blown, or possibly the switch for your
> lights, and are you sure they are on the same fuse? on my 95 civic there are
> 4, low beam left and right, and high beam left and right
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Re: Headlights problem
I thought maybe the bulbs were blown, but both at the same time? On my 1984
Prelude, I seem to have only 2 fuses for my lights. One for the left and one for
the right and they are both fine. I checked out all the other fuses just to be
sure and they are all fine. I was thinking that perhaps the relay switch might
have blown. I tried to take out the switch to examine it more thoroughly but it
seems like it's literary clued into place. I sure don't want to try taking out
the switch only to make things worse. When it comes to auto mechanics, I'm
pretty illiterate in matters of that nature.
Paul
"M.C. Tee" wrote:
> possible your low beam bulbs are blown, or possibly the switch for your
> lights, and are you sure they are on the same fuse? on my 95 civic there are
> 4, low beam left and right, and high beam left and right
Prelude, I seem to have only 2 fuses for my lights. One for the left and one for
the right and they are both fine. I checked out all the other fuses just to be
sure and they are all fine. I was thinking that perhaps the relay switch might
have blown. I tried to take out the switch to examine it more thoroughly but it
seems like it's literary clued into place. I sure don't want to try taking out
the switch only to make things worse. When it comes to auto mechanics, I'm
pretty illiterate in matters of that nature.
Paul
"M.C. Tee" wrote:
> possible your low beam bulbs are blown, or possibly the switch for your
> lights, and are you sure they are on the same fuse? on my 95 civic there are
> 4, low beam left and right, and high beam left and right
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Re: Headlights problem
Well a lot of people simply do not pay attention to any of their lights on
their car so if one goes out they don't notice it and then the other goes
out and they have no light.
CaptainKrunch
"M.C. Tee" <tedwards@NOSPAM.roadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
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> possible your low beam bulbs are blown, or possibly the switch for your
> lights, and are you sure they are on the same fuse? on my 95 civic there
are
> 4, low beam left and right, and high beam left and right
>
>
> "Paul Mense" <anonymous@home.home> wrote in message
> news:3FF6EEBF.8EAB2CB@total.net...
> > Hi everyone
> >
> > I got a little problem with my 1984 Honda Prelude (I know, it's old! And
> > it's not to good in shape, but it still drives OK. Hopefully, this
> > spring, if my budget allows me, I intend to replace this one with a
> > similar model and a more "modern" one, like a 1991 model. I always like
> > the models with the popup lights.). The other day, when I put headlights
> > on, it came on for about 1/4 seconds, and then they both went out. I
> > noticed though that my hi-beams works so it couldn't be a fuse problem
> > (which I checked anyways and they were fine). Anyone got any ideas on
> > what I should be looking at and how I could fix it at home, if it's a
> > simple problem, or should I take my car to the garage and get them to
> > check it out? Thanks for any advice that anyone may be able to offer.
> >
> > Anyone got any places in mind where in the Montreal region I might be
> > able to find a reputable dealership where I might be able to find a
> > second-hand Honda Prelude 1991 in excellent shape and a good financing
> > plan for second-hand cars?
> >
> > Paul
> >
>
>
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their car so if one goes out they don't notice it and then the other goes
out and they have no light.
CaptainKrunch
"M.C. Tee" <tedwards@NOSPAM.roadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
news:bt74ho$h0o$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> possible your low beam bulbs are blown, or possibly the switch for your
> lights, and are you sure they are on the same fuse? on my 95 civic there
are
> 4, low beam left and right, and high beam left and right
>
>
> "Paul Mense" <anonymous@home.home> wrote in message
> news:3FF6EEBF.8EAB2CB@total.net...
> > Hi everyone
> >
> > I got a little problem with my 1984 Honda Prelude (I know, it's old! And
> > it's not to good in shape, but it still drives OK. Hopefully, this
> > spring, if my budget allows me, I intend to replace this one with a
> > similar model and a more "modern" one, like a 1991 model. I always like
> > the models with the popup lights.). The other day, when I put headlights
> > on, it came on for about 1/4 seconds, and then they both went out. I
> > noticed though that my hi-beams works so it couldn't be a fuse problem
> > (which I checked anyways and they were fine). Anyone got any ideas on
> > what I should be looking at and how I could fix it at home, if it's a
> > simple problem, or should I take my car to the garage and get them to
> > check it out? Thanks for any advice that anyone may be able to offer.
> >
> > Anyone got any places in mind where in the Montreal region I might be
> > able to find a reputable dealership where I might be able to find a
> > second-hand Honda Prelude 1991 in excellent shape and a good financing
> > plan for second-hand cars?
> >
> > Paul
> >
>
>
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Re: Headlights problem
Well a lot of people simply do not pay attention to any of their lights on
their car so if one goes out they don't notice it and then the other goes
out and they have no light.
CaptainKrunch
"M.C. Tee" <tedwards@NOSPAM.roadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
news:bt74ho$h0o$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> possible your low beam bulbs are blown, or possibly the switch for your
> lights, and are you sure they are on the same fuse? on my 95 civic there
are
> 4, low beam left and right, and high beam left and right
>
>
> "Paul Mense" <anonymous@home.home> wrote in message
> news:3FF6EEBF.8EAB2CB@total.net...
> > Hi everyone
> >
> > I got a little problem with my 1984 Honda Prelude (I know, it's old! And
> > it's not to good in shape, but it still drives OK. Hopefully, this
> > spring, if my budget allows me, I intend to replace this one with a
> > similar model and a more "modern" one, like a 1991 model. I always like
> > the models with the popup lights.). The other day, when I put headlights
> > on, it came on for about 1/4 seconds, and then they both went out. I
> > noticed though that my hi-beams works so it couldn't be a fuse problem
> > (which I checked anyways and they were fine). Anyone got any ideas on
> > what I should be looking at and how I could fix it at home, if it's a
> > simple problem, or should I take my car to the garage and get them to
> > check it out? Thanks for any advice that anyone may be able to offer.
> >
> > Anyone got any places in mind where in the Montreal region I might be
> > able to find a reputable dealership where I might be able to find a
> > second-hand Honda Prelude 1991 in excellent shape and a good financing
> > plan for second-hand cars?
> >
> > Paul
> >
>
>
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their car so if one goes out they don't notice it and then the other goes
out and they have no light.
CaptainKrunch
"M.C. Tee" <tedwards@NOSPAM.roadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
news:bt74ho$h0o$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> possible your low beam bulbs are blown, or possibly the switch for your
> lights, and are you sure they are on the same fuse? on my 95 civic there
are
> 4, low beam left and right, and high beam left and right
>
>
> "Paul Mense" <anonymous@home.home> wrote in message
> news:3FF6EEBF.8EAB2CB@total.net...
> > Hi everyone
> >
> > I got a little problem with my 1984 Honda Prelude (I know, it's old! And
> > it's not to good in shape, but it still drives OK. Hopefully, this
> > spring, if my budget allows me, I intend to replace this one with a
> > similar model and a more "modern" one, like a 1991 model. I always like
> > the models with the popup lights.). The other day, when I put headlights
> > on, it came on for about 1/4 seconds, and then they both went out. I
> > noticed though that my hi-beams works so it couldn't be a fuse problem
> > (which I checked anyways and they were fine). Anyone got any ideas on
> > what I should be looking at and how I could fix it at home, if it's a
> > simple problem, or should I take my car to the garage and get them to
> > check it out? Thanks for any advice that anyone may be able to offer.
> >
> > Anyone got any places in mind where in the Montreal region I might be
> > able to find a reputable dealership where I might be able to find a
> > second-hand Honda Prelude 1991 in excellent shape and a good financing
> > plan for second-hand cars?
> >
> > Paul
> >
>
>
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Re: Headlights problem
Well a lot of people simply do not pay attention to any of their lights on
their car so if one goes out they don't notice it and then the other goes
out and they have no light.
CaptainKrunch
"M.C. Tee" <tedwards@NOSPAM.roadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
news:bt74ho$h0o$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> possible your low beam bulbs are blown, or possibly the switch for your
> lights, and are you sure they are on the same fuse? on my 95 civic there
are
> 4, low beam left and right, and high beam left and right
>
>
> "Paul Mense" <anonymous@home.home> wrote in message
> news:3FF6EEBF.8EAB2CB@total.net...
> > Hi everyone
> >
> > I got a little problem with my 1984 Honda Prelude (I know, it's old! And
> > it's not to good in shape, but it still drives OK. Hopefully, this
> > spring, if my budget allows me, I intend to replace this one with a
> > similar model and a more "modern" one, like a 1991 model. I always like
> > the models with the popup lights.). The other day, when I put headlights
> > on, it came on for about 1/4 seconds, and then they both went out. I
> > noticed though that my hi-beams works so it couldn't be a fuse problem
> > (which I checked anyways and they were fine). Anyone got any ideas on
> > what I should be looking at and how I could fix it at home, if it's a
> > simple problem, or should I take my car to the garage and get them to
> > check it out? Thanks for any advice that anyone may be able to offer.
> >
> > Anyone got any places in mind where in the Montreal region I might be
> > able to find a reputable dealership where I might be able to find a
> > second-hand Honda Prelude 1991 in excellent shape and a good financing
> > plan for second-hand cars?
> >
> > Paul
> >
>
>
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their car so if one goes out they don't notice it and then the other goes
out and they have no light.
CaptainKrunch
"M.C. Tee" <tedwards@NOSPAM.roadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
news:bt74ho$h0o$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> possible your low beam bulbs are blown, or possibly the switch for your
> lights, and are you sure they are on the same fuse? on my 95 civic there
are
> 4, low beam left and right, and high beam left and right
>
>
> "Paul Mense" <anonymous@home.home> wrote in message
> news:3FF6EEBF.8EAB2CB@total.net...
> > Hi everyone
> >
> > I got a little problem with my 1984 Honda Prelude (I know, it's old! And
> > it's not to good in shape, but it still drives OK. Hopefully, this
> > spring, if my budget allows me, I intend to replace this one with a
> > similar model and a more "modern" one, like a 1991 model. I always like
> > the models with the popup lights.). The other day, when I put headlights
> > on, it came on for about 1/4 seconds, and then they both went out. I
> > noticed though that my hi-beams works so it couldn't be a fuse problem
> > (which I checked anyways and they were fine). Anyone got any ideas on
> > what I should be looking at and how I could fix it at home, if it's a
> > simple problem, or should I take my car to the garage and get them to
> > check it out? Thanks for any advice that anyone may be able to offer.
> >
> > Anyone got any places in mind where in the Montreal region I might be
> > able to find a reputable dealership where I might be able to find a
> > second-hand Honda Prelude 1991 in excellent shape and a good financing
> > plan for second-hand cars?
> >
> > Paul
> >
>
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