steven.sciriha@gmail.com wrote:
> On May 12, 1:37 am, "~misfit~" <misfit6...@hooya.com.au> wrote:
> > steven.scir...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On May 10, 8:52 pm, "Michael Pardee"
> > > <michaeltn...@cybertrails.com> wrote:
> > > > <steven.scir...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> > > > news:1178801798.437665.273910@e51g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> > > > > Hey all,
> >
> > > > > I have a 91 civic 3-door with 140k km
> > > > > (european) on it. Im finding it increasingly hard to shift
> > > > > gear from 1st to 2nd...The problem seems to go away after the
> > > > > 20-30 mins of driving...All the other gear changes seem
> > > > > fine....Im thinking its one of two things...time for a tranny
> > > > > oil change or adjusting the clutchcable (since the change
> > > > > seems easier when the clutch is floored)...any ideas?
> >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Steve
> >
> > > > This is a good time for a tranny oil change. First to second
> > > > seems the be the first shift affected by low lube, and new oil
> > > > should make a big improvement. Honda MTL is preferred, although
> > > > others swear by Redline MTL.
> >
> > > > Mike
> >
> > > cheers mike! will do so....
> >
> > > Steve
> >
> > I use Castrol VMX in my '85 City's gearbox. According to a couple
> > mechanics I've spoken with it's /the/ oil to use in
> > transverse-mounted engine gearboxes.
>
> I've also noticed that if I change gear (1st -> 2nd) at slower speeds
> < 10 km/h it changes ok....only when at speeds approaching 20 km/h
> does it get hard....
>
> Steve

That indicates to me that you need to adjust your clutch cable. It's cheap
(you can do it yourself) and if it doesn't fix it then you can look
elsewhere. It sounds to me like it's not de-clutching sufficiently.

Luck...
--
Shaun.

09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

 

steven.sciriha@gmail.com wrote:
> On May 12, 1:37 am, "~misfit~" <misfit6...@hooya.com.au> wrote:
> > steven.scir...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On May 10, 8:52 pm, "Michael Pardee"
> > > <michaeltn...@cybertrails.com> wrote:
> > > > <steven.scir...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> > > > news:1178801798.437665.273910@e51g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> > > > > Hey all,
> >
> > > > > I have a 91 civic 3-door with 140k km
> > > > > (european) on it. Im finding it increasingly hard to shift
> > > > > gear from 1st to 2nd...The problem seems to go away after the
> > > > > 20-30 mins of driving...All the other gear changes seem
> > > > > fine....Im thinking its one of two things...time for a tranny
> > > > > oil change or adjusting the clutchcable (since the change
> > > > > seems easier when the clutch is floored)...any ideas?
> >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Steve
> >
> > > > This is a good time for a tranny oil change. First to second
> > > > seems the be the first shift affected by low lube, and new oil
> > > > should make a big improvement. Honda MTL is preferred, although
> > > > others swear by Redline MTL.
> >
> > > > Mike
> >
> > > cheers mike! will do so....
> >
> > > Steve
> >
> > I use Castrol VMX in my '85 City's gearbox. According to a couple
> > mechanics I've spoken with it's /the/ oil to use in
> > transverse-mounted engine gearboxes.
>
> I've also noticed that if I change gear (1st -> 2nd) at slower speeds
> < 10 km/h it changes ok....only when at speeds approaching 20 km/h
> does it get hard....
>
> Steve

That indicates to me that you need to adjust your clutch cable. It's cheap
(you can do it yourself) and if it doesn't fix it then you can look
elsewhere. It sounds to me like it's not de-clutching sufficiently.

Luck...
--
Shaun.

09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

 

"~misfit~" <misfit61nz@hooya.com.au> wrote in message
news:46483710@news2.actrix.gen.nz...
> steven.sciriha@gmail.com wrote:
>> On May 12, 1:37 am, "~misfit~" <misfit6...@hooya.com.au> wrote:
>> > steven.scir...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> I've also noticed that if I change gear (1st -> 2nd) at slower speeds
>> < 10 km/h it changes ok....only when at speeds approaching 20 km/h
>> does it get hard....
>>
>> Steve
>
> That indicates to me that you need to adjust your clutch cable. It's cheap
> (you can do it yourself) and if it doesn't fix it then you can look
> elsewhere. It sounds to me like it's not de-clutching sufficiently.
>

I would expect the effect of the clutch dragging to be approximately the
same at all speeds.

My last work truck was doing the same thing - hard 1-2 upshift, worse at
higher speeds and always worse than the downshift - but I couldn't get the
garage to bother with it. After a few months the gears started howling, and
I was nearly a hundred miles from home. After the tranny was filled the
shifting was much more normal.

Mike

 

"~misfit~" <misfit61nz@hooya.com.au> wrote in message
news:46483710@news2.actrix.gen.nz...
> steven.sciriha@gmail.com wrote:
>> On May 12, 1:37 am, "~misfit~" <misfit6...@hooya.com.au> wrote:
>> > steven.scir...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> I've also noticed that if I change gear (1st -> 2nd) at slower speeds
>> < 10 km/h it changes ok....only when at speeds approaching 20 km/h
>> does it get hard....
>>
>> Steve
>
> That indicates to me that you need to adjust your clutch cable. It's cheap
> (you can do it yourself) and if it doesn't fix it then you can look
> elsewhere. It sounds to me like it's not de-clutching sufficiently.
>

I would expect the effect of the clutch dragging to be approximately the
same at all speeds.

My last work truck was doing the same thing - hard 1-2 upshift, worse at
higher speeds and always worse than the downshift - but I couldn't get the
garage to bother with it. After a few months the gears started howling, and
I was nearly a hundred miles from home. After the tranny was filled the
shifting was much more normal.

Mike

 

Michael Pardee wrote:
> "~misfit~" <misfit61nz@hooya.com.au> wrote in message
> news:46483710@news2.actrix.gen.nz...
> > steven.sciriha@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On May 12, 1:37 am, "~misfit~" <misfit6...@hooya.com.au> wrote:
> > > > steven.scir...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > I've also noticed that if I change gear (1st -> 2nd) at slower
> > > speeds < 10 km/h it changes ok....only when at speeds approaching
> > > 20 km/h does it get hard....
> > >
> > > Steve
> >
> > That indicates to me that you need to adjust your clutch cable.
> > It's cheap (you can do it yourself) and if it doesn't fix it then
> > you can look elsewhere. It sounds to me like it's not de-clutching
> > sufficiently.
>
> I would expect the effect of the clutch dragging to be approximately
> the same at all speeds.

IME if the clutch is not disengaging properly it's more noticable at higher
revs.

> My last work truck was doing the same thing - hard 1-2 upshift, worse
> at higher speeds and always worse than the downshift - but I couldn't
> get the garage to bother with it. After a few months the gears
> started howling, and I was nearly a hundred miles from home. After
> the tranny was filled the shifting was much more normal.

Ok, handy to know.
--
Shaun.

09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

 

Michael Pardee wrote:
> "~misfit~" <misfit61nz@hooya.com.au> wrote in message
> news:46483710@news2.actrix.gen.nz...
> > steven.sciriha@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On May 12, 1:37 am, "~misfit~" <misfit6...@hooya.com.au> wrote:
> > > > steven.scir...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > I've also noticed that if I change gear (1st -> 2nd) at slower
> > > speeds < 10 km/h it changes ok....only when at speeds approaching
> > > 20 km/h does it get hard....
> > >
> > > Steve
> >
> > That indicates to me that you need to adjust your clutch cable.
> > It's cheap (you can do it yourself) and if it doesn't fix it then
> > you can look elsewhere. It sounds to me like it's not de-clutching
> > sufficiently.
>
> I would expect the effect of the clutch dragging to be approximately
> the same at all speeds.

IME if the clutch is not disengaging properly it's more noticable at higher
revs.

> My last work truck was doing the same thing - hard 1-2 upshift, worse
> at higher speeds and always worse than the downshift - but I couldn't
> get the garage to bother with it. After a few months the gears
> started howling, and I was nearly a hundred miles from home. After
> the tranny was filled the shifting was much more normal.

Ok, handy to know.
--
Shaun.

09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

 

On May 16, 8:57 am, "~misfit~" <misfit6...@hooya.com.au> wrote:
> Michael Pardee wrote:
> > "~misfit~" <misfit6...@hooya.com.au> wrote in message
> >news:46483710@news2.actrix.gen.nz...
> > > steven.scir...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On May 12, 1:37 am, "~misfit~" <misfit6...@hooya.com.au> wrote:
> > > > > steven.scir...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > I've also noticed that if Ichangegear(1st ->2nd) at slower
> > > > speeds < 10 km/h it changes ok....only when at speeds approaching
> > > > 20 km/h does it gethard....
>
> > > > Steve
>
> > > That indicates to me that you need to adjust your clutch cable.
> > > It's cheap (you can do it yourself) and if it doesn't fix it then
> > > you can look elsewhere. It sounds to me like it's not de-clutching
> > > sufficiently.
>
> > I would expect the effect of the clutch dragging to be approximately
> > the same at all speeds.
>
> IME if the clutch is not disengaging properly it's more noticable at higher
> revs.
>
> > My last work truck was doing the same thing -hard1-2 upshift, worse
> > at higher speeds and always worse than the downshift - but I couldn't
> > get the garage to bother with it. After a few months the gears
> > started howling, and I was nearly a hundred miles from home. After
> > the tranny was filled the shifting was much more normal.
>
> Ok, handy to know.
> --
> Shaun.
>
> 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Well....Today i made sure the clutch is ok....I made the slipping test
where you put the car into 4th, handbrake on and let out the clutch
with the engine dying as soon as I let it out...so at least it isnt
slipping. Still need to take the car to the mechanic for the oil/cable
check....Also to clarify...the problem I have is changing to 2nd gear
at higher speeds..ex. coasting...(not ideal i know i know ) ...not
revs...actually with the car at high revs the problem seems to be less
(i.e. w/ choke engaged)....Thanks for your guys help

Steve

 

On May 16, 8:57 am, "~misfit~" <misfit6...@hooya.com.au> wrote:
> Michael Pardee wrote:
> > "~misfit~" <misfit6...@hooya.com.au> wrote in message
> >news:46483710@news2.actrix.gen.nz...
> > > steven.scir...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On May 12, 1:37 am, "~misfit~" <misfit6...@hooya.com.au> wrote:
> > > > > steven.scir...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > I've also noticed that if Ichangegear(1st ->2nd) at slower
> > > > speeds < 10 km/h it changes ok....only when at speeds approaching
> > > > 20 km/h does it gethard....
>
> > > > Steve
>
> > > That indicates to me that you need to adjust your clutch cable.
> > > It's cheap (you can do it yourself) and if it doesn't fix it then
> > > you can look elsewhere. It sounds to me like it's not de-clutching
> > > sufficiently.
>
> > I would expect the effect of the clutch dragging to be approximately
> > the same at all speeds.
>
> IME if the clutch is not disengaging properly it's more noticable at higher
> revs.
>
> > My last work truck was doing the same thing -hard1-2 upshift, worse
> > at higher speeds and always worse than the downshift - but I couldn't
> > get the garage to bother with it. After a few months the gears
> > started howling, and I was nearly a hundred miles from home. After
> > the tranny was filled the shifting was much more normal.
>
> Ok, handy to know.
> --
> Shaun.
>
> 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Well....Today i made sure the clutch is ok....I made the slipping test
where you put the car into 4th, handbrake on and let out the clutch
with the engine dying as soon as I let it out...so at least it isnt
slipping. Still need to take the car to the mechanic for the oil/cable
check....Also to clarify...the problem I have is changing to 2nd gear
at higher speeds..ex. coasting...(not ideal i know i know ) ...not
revs...actually with the car at high revs the problem seems to be less
(i.e. w/ choke engaged)....Thanks for your guys help

Steve

 

"Stevoo" <ElStevoo@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179401655.196255.94170@e65g2000hsc.googlegro ups.com...
>
> Well....Today i made sure the clutch is ok....I made the slipping test
> where you put the car into 4th, handbrake on and let out the clutch
> with the engine dying as soon as I let it out...so at least it isnt
> slipping. Still need to take the car to the mechanic for the oil/cable
> check....Also to clarify...the problem I have is changing to 2nd gear
> at higher speeds..ex. coasting...(not ideal i know i know ) ...not
> revs...actually with the car at high revs the problem seems to be less
> (i.e. w/ choke engaged)....Thanks for your guys help
>
> Steve
>
>
The test for the opposite - a dragging clutch - can be done by engaging
first or second gear with the clutch in and the car stationary, then
shifting out of gear and right back in without releasing the clutch. If the
shift back in gear is effortless, the clutch isn't dragging. If the shifter
resists going right back into gear, the clutch is dragging.

Mike

 

"Stevoo" <ElStevoo@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179401655.196255.94170@e65g2000hsc.googlegro ups.com...
>
> Well....Today i made sure the clutch is ok....I made the slipping test
> where you put the car into 4th, handbrake on and let out the clutch
> with the engine dying as soon as I let it out...so at least it isnt
> slipping. Still need to take the car to the mechanic for the oil/cable
> check....Also to clarify...the problem I have is changing to 2nd gear
> at higher speeds..ex. coasting...(not ideal i know i know ) ...not
> revs...actually with the car at high revs the problem seems to be less
> (i.e. w/ choke engaged)....Thanks for your guys help
>
> Steve
>
>
The test for the opposite - a dragging clutch - can be done by engaging
first or second gear with the clutch in and the car stationary, then
shifting out of gear and right back in without releasing the clutch. If the
shift back in gear is effortless, the clutch isn't dragging. If the shifter
resists going right back into gear, the clutch is dragging.

Mike

 

Michael Pardee wrote:
> "Stevoo" <ElStevoo@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1179401655.196255.94170@e65g2000hsc.googlegro ups.com...
> >
> > Well....Today i made sure the clutch is ok....I made the slipping
> > test where you put the car into 4th, handbrake on and let out the
> > clutch with the engine dying as soon as I let it out...so at least
> > it isnt slipping. Still need to take the car to the mechanic for
> > the oil/cable check....Also to clarify...the problem I have is
> > changing to 2nd gear at higher speeds..ex. coasting...(not ideal i
> > know i know ) ...not revs...actually with the car at high revs
> > the problem seems to be less (i.e. w/ choke engaged)....Thanks for
> > your guys help Steve
> >
> >
> The test for the opposite - a dragging clutch - can be done by
> engaging first or second gear with the clutch in and the car
> stationary, then shifting out of gear and right back in without
> releasing the clutch. If the shift back in gear is effortless, the
> clutch isn't dragging. If the shifter resists going right back into
> gear, the clutch is dragging.

Yeah, what Mike said. (With the engine running of course)

You tested for the wrong clutch problem.
--
Shaun.

 

Michael Pardee wrote:
> "Stevoo" <ElStevoo@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1179401655.196255.94170@e65g2000hsc.googlegro ups.com...
> >
> > Well....Today i made sure the clutch is ok....I made the slipping
> > test where you put the car into 4th, handbrake on and let out the
> > clutch with the engine dying as soon as I let it out...so at least
> > it isnt slipping. Still need to take the car to the mechanic for
> > the oil/cable check....Also to clarify...the problem I have is
> > changing to 2nd gear at higher speeds..ex. coasting...(not ideal i
> > know i know ) ...not revs...actually with the car at high revs
> > the problem seems to be less (i.e. w/ choke engaged)....Thanks for
> > your guys help Steve
> >
> >
> The test for the opposite - a dragging clutch - can be done by
> engaging first or second gear with the clutch in and the car
> stationary, then shifting out of gear and right back in without
> releasing the clutch. If the shift back in gear is effortless, the
> clutch isn't dragging. If the shifter resists going right back into
> gear, the clutch is dragging.

Yeah, what Mike said. (With the engine running of course)

You tested for the wrong clutch problem.
--
Shaun.

 

On May 18, 9:40 am, "~misfit~" <misfit6...@hooya.com.au> wrote:
> Michael Pardee wrote:
> > "Stevoo" <ElSte...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:1179401655.196255.94170@e65g2000hsc.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > > Well....Today i made sure the clutch is ok....I made the slipping
> > > test where you put the car into 4th, handbrake on and let out the
> > > clutch with the engine dying as soon as I let it out...so at least
> > > it isnt slipping. Still need to take the car to the mechanic for
> > > the oil/cable check....Also to clarify...the problem I have is
> > > changing to 2ndgearat higher speeds..ex. coasting...(not ideal i
> > > know i know ) ...not revs...actually with the car at high revs
> > > the problem seems to be less (i.e. w/ choke engaged)....Thanks for
> > > your guys help Steve
>
> > The test for the opposite - a dragging clutch - can be done by
> > engaging first or secondgearwith the clutch in and the car
> > stationary, then shifting out ofgearand right back in without
> > releasing the clutch. If the shift back ingearis effortless, the
> > clutch isn't dragging. If the shifter resists going right back into
> >gear, the clutch is dragging.
>
> Yeah, what Mike said. (With the engine running of course)
>
> You tested for the wrong clutch problem.
> --
> Shaun.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Ok did the test...seems clutch isn't dragging neither...thanks for
your help guys!!

Steve

 

On May 18, 9:40 am, "~misfit~" <misfit6...@hooya.com.au> wrote:
> Michael Pardee wrote:
> > "Stevoo" <ElSte...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:1179401655.196255.94170@e65g2000hsc.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > > Well....Today i made sure the clutch is ok....I made the slipping
> > > test where you put the car into 4th, handbrake on and let out the
> > > clutch with the engine dying as soon as I let it out...so at least
> > > it isnt slipping. Still need to take the car to the mechanic for
> > > the oil/cable check....Also to clarify...the problem I have is
> > > changing to 2ndgearat higher speeds..ex. coasting...(not ideal i
> > > know i know ) ...not revs...actually with the car at high revs
> > > the problem seems to be less (i.e. w/ choke engaged)....Thanks for
> > > your guys help Steve
>
> > The test for the opposite - a dragging clutch - can be done by
> > engaging first or secondgearwith the clutch in and the car
> > stationary, then shifting out ofgearand right back in without
> > releasing the clutch. If the shift back ingearis effortless, the
> > clutch isn't dragging. If the shifter resists going right back into
> >gear, the clutch is dragging.
>
> Yeah, what Mike said. (With the engine running of course)
>
> You tested for the wrong clutch problem.
> --
> Shaun.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Ok did the test...seems clutch isn't dragging neither...thanks for
your help guys!!

Steve