<brownt@flash.net> wrote in message
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On Feb 25, 10:41 am, Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpy...@austin.rr.com>
wrote:
> 08 Fit. We left it sitting in the dirveway for a while, and I pulled
> it in in the evening. The engine probably ran for 45 seconds, max.
> When I got out, there was the strongsmellof unburned gasoline. Was
> this just a startup artifact, or maybe a coldrun(the funky little
> blue thermometer was still on)?
> --
>
> - dillon I am not invalid
>
> Hi, I'm Michael Phelps and Olympic Gold isn't the only
> Gold I'm thinking of.
>
> Hi, I'm Michael Phelps and when I'm on Maui, Wowwie.

There is a difference between the smell of RAW gasoline and partly
burned exhaust fumes that go through a cold converter that doesn't
clean them up. I think the OP was smelling the latter.

I think some of you have been on a wild goose chase for quite awhile.

=================================================

That's a possibility. We have been going on a rather subjective observation
that it was a strong gasoline smell, but if it was just the cold engine
exhaust he was smelling you are spot on.

Mike

 

Michael Pardee wrote:
> "jim beam" <retard-trap@bad.example.net> wrote in message
> news:SpKdnd5Qe4uuBS_UnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>> "jim beam" <retard-trap@bad.example.net> wrote in message
>>> news:vt-dnbDKIYf-RTLUnZ2dnUVZ_trinZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>>>> http://i40.tinypic.com/n4zfhw.jpg
>>>>
>>> From the last two paragraphs on that page, "Defining the geometric
>>> alignment of fuel sprays... will allow the selection of fuel injectors
>>> which will control or minimize manifold wall fuel condensation in the
>>> area of the intake duct and the intake valves." "Compared with carburetor
>>> engines and single-point injection systems, manifold-wall fuel
>>> condensation in multipoint injection systems is reduced significantly." I
>>> heard that somewhere before... oh, right! I pointed that out to you and
>>> you arrogantly waved it off, preferring to insult me instead. It appears
>>> the best you can do is discredit your own contentions. You have also
>>> failed to address the problems of getting vapors past the throttle, the
>>> air filter and the intake plumbing, and into the ambient air in
>>> sufficient concentration to produce the "strong smell" that started this
>>> whole thread..
>>>
>>> You insisted you had "physics" and you are still waving your hands
>>> around. Can you or can you not present the physics you insist is the
>>> basis of your argument?
>>>
>>> Mike
>> now let's see:
>>
>> 1. i explain the wetting situation, but the drama queen goes nuclear
>> with "if tomorrow the OP reports a fire that destroys his Fit and
>> possibly his home".
>>
>> 2. i cite a text book corroborating precisely what i explained, but
>> based on the above, it's apparently too hard to understand.
>>
>> and yet i am the one with the problem! ridiculous.
>>
>>
>
> So in answer to my question, after four opportunities you can *not* present
> the "physics" you have been babbling about. You are a fraud.

it's in the book cite i gave you!!! if you don't see or understand
that, it's not my fault!


>
> You aren't keeping up with the subject at all. Your points were disproven by
> the source you cited as detailed in the last post (did you even read the
> page you posted?) You haven't tried to explain how the remnant of vapor in
> the manifold is supposed to get out, or quantify the amount in the manifold,
> or answer *any* relevant question posed. You ridiculed the evaluation of a
> professional,

no, i ridicule the "interpreted" version you give - the one you filtered
through your lack of understanding.


> just because you didn't like what he had to say. Your myth is
> busted but you still think you must save face rather than admit an error
> like normal people do.

wow. utter lack of comprehension!


>
> You are indeed the one with the problems - you are unable to keep up with
> even this simple subject, instead rambling and blustering with every post,
> just as you did this time. You use bullying taunts (as you just did again)
> to try to deflect examination of your errors - an even uglier problem that
> does not speak well of your present mental capacity. Those are really huge
> problems you have. I hope you are just drunk when you post, because it is
> really sad to think of you having those deficiencies when sober. Take care
> of yourself.

whatever you say. don't bother with an engineering career though mike -
you're out of your depth.

 

Michael Pardee wrote:
> <brownt@flash.net> wrote in message
> news:746e1443-4276-4342-975c-ca135f72abc4@q18g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 25, 10:41 am, Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpy...@austin.rr.com>
> wrote:
>> 08 Fit. We left it sitting in the dirveway for a while, and I pulled
>> it in in the evening. The engine probably ran for 45 seconds, max.
>> When I got out, there was the strongsmellof unburned gasoline. Was
>> this just a startup artifact, or maybe a coldrun(the funky little
>> blue thermometer was still on)?
>> --
>>
>> - dillon I am not invalid
>>
>> Hi, I'm Michael Phelps and Olympic Gold isn't the only
>> Gold I'm thinking of.
>>
>> Hi, I'm Michael Phelps and when I'm on Maui, Wowwie.
>
> There is a difference between the smell of RAW gasoline and partly
> burned exhaust fumes that go through a cold converter that doesn't
> clean them up. I think the OP was smelling the latter.
>
> I think some of you have been on a wild goose chase for quite awhile.
>
> =================================================
>
> That's a possibility. We have been going on a rather subjective observation
> that it was a strong gasoline smell, but if it was just the cold engine
> exhaust he was smelling you are spot on.
>
> Mike
>
>

what a weak-*** climb-down!

 

"jim beam" <retard-trap@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:PJidnb-OlLYgby7UnZ2dnUVZ_oWWnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>
> whatever you say. don't bother with an engineering career though mike -
> you're out of your depth.

Too late - I was a senior communications field engineer for a Fortune 100
company from about 1990 to about 2005. Now a senior IS field tech for the
same company; more challenging, more troubleshooting, pays better, get
stranded in some of the most beautiful places in Northern Arizona. Among
other duties, I determine where microwave system troubles originate and go
there with what I expect to need to correct the problem - which can include
damage from lightning strikes - and I have to make it happen better than 9
times out of 10. I describe the job as "taking Computer Age skills to the
end of Bronze Age roads in any weather at any time of day or night." I have
been a troubleshooter professionally since August 10, 1970, after I got my
FCC First Class Radiotelephone license at age 17, and as an amateur since I
was 14 years old. I have done essentially all the maintenance on the cars in
my family since moving to Arizona in 1974, taking most of them beyond the 20
year mark. (BTW, I have never in my life had a grade lower than an A on any
physics test.) Your qualifications?

 

"jim beam" <retard-trap@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:PJidnb6OlLZ3by7UnZ2dnUVZ_oULAAAA@speakeasy.ne t...
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> <brownt@flash.net> wrote in message
>> news:746e1443-4276-4342-975c-ca135f72abc4@q18g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>> On Feb 25, 10:41 am, Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpy...@austin.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 08 Fit. We left it sitting in the dirveway for a while, and I pulled
>>> it in in the evening. The engine probably ran for 45 seconds, max.
>>> When I got out, there was the strongsmellof unburned gasoline. Was
>>> this just a startup artifact, or maybe a coldrun(the funky little
>>> blue thermometer was still on)?
>>> --
>>>
>>> - dillon I am not invalid
>>>
>>> Hi, I'm Michael Phelps and Olympic Gold isn't the only
>>> Gold I'm thinking of.
>>>
>>> Hi, I'm Michael Phelps and when I'm on Maui, Wowwie.
>>
>> There is a difference between the smell of RAW gasoline and partly
>> burned exhaust fumes that go through a cold converter that doesn't
>> clean them up. I think the OP was smelling the latter.
>>
>> I think some of you have been on a wild goose chase for quite awhile.
>>
>> =================================================
>>
>> That's a possibility. We have been going on a rather subjective
>> observation that it was a strong gasoline smell, but if it was just the
>> cold engine exhaust he was smelling you are spot on.
>>
>> Mike
>
> what a weak-*** climb-down!
>

Do you have something intelligent to say? Write like a man or go away.

 

Michael Pardee wrote:
> "jim beam" <retard-trap@bad.example.net> wrote in message
> news:PJidnb6OlLZ3by7UnZ2dnUVZ_oULAAAA@speakeasy.ne t...
>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>> <brownt@flash.net> wrote in message
>>> news:746e1443-4276-4342-975c-ca135f72abc4@q18g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Feb 25, 10:41 am, Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpy...@austin.rr.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 08 Fit. We left it sitting in the dirveway for a while, and I pulled
>>>> it in in the evening. The engine probably ran for 45 seconds, max.
>>>> When I got out, there was the strongsmellof unburned gasoline. Was
>>>> this just a startup artifact, or maybe a coldrun(the funky little
>>>> blue thermometer was still on)?
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> - dillon I am not invalid
>>>>
>>>> Hi, I'm Michael Phelps and Olympic Gold isn't the only
>>>> Gold I'm thinking of.
>>>>
>>>> Hi, I'm Michael Phelps and when I'm on Maui, Wowwie.
>>> There is a difference between the smell of RAW gasoline and partly
>>> burned exhaust fumes that go through a cold converter that doesn't
>>> clean them up. I think the OP was smelling the latter.
>>>
>>> I think some of you have been on a wild goose chase for quite awhile.
>>>
>>> =================================================
>>>
>>> That's a possibility. We have been going on a rather subjective
>>> observation that it was a strong gasoline smell, but if it was just the
>>> cold engine exhaust he was smelling you are spot on.
>>>
>>> Mike
>> what a weak-*** climb-down!
>>
>
> Do you have something intelligent to say? Write like a man or go away.
>
>

something intelligent like "if tomorrow the OP reports a fire that
destroys his Fit and possibly his home"? that kind of a man?

 

Michael Pardee wrote:
> "jim beam" <retard-trap@bad.example.net> wrote in message
> news:PJidnb-OlLYgby7UnZ2dnUVZ_oWWnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>> whatever you say. don't bother with an engineering career though mike -
>> you're out of your depth.
>
> Too late - I was a senior communications field engineer for a Fortune 100
> company from about 1990 to about 2005. Now a senior IS field tech for the
> same company; more challenging, more troubleshooting, pays better, get
> stranded in some of the most beautiful places in Northern Arizona. Among
> other duties, I determine where microwave system troubles originate and go
> there with what I expect to need to correct the problem - which can include
> damage from lightning strikes - and I have to make it happen better than 9
> times out of 10. I describe the job as "taking Computer Age skills to the
> end of Bronze Age roads in any weather at any time of day or night." I have
> been a troubleshooter professionally since August 10, 1970, after I got my
> FCC First Class Radiotelephone license at age 17, and as an amateur since I
> was 14 years old. I have done essentially all the maintenance on the cars in
> my family since moving to Arizona in 1974, taking most of them beyond the 20
> year mark. (BTW, I have never in my life had a grade lower than an A on any
> physics test.) Your qualifications?
>
>

dude, i have the first class comms licence books on my desk right now.
passing that stuff at 14 is not exactly a landmark of academic achievement.

i'll stop there.

 

"jim beam" <retard-trap@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:SKqdnTmhlpN5mSnUnZ2dnUVZ_heWnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> "jim beam" <retard-trap@bad.example.net> wrote in message
>> news:PJidnb-OlLYgby7UnZ2dnUVZ_oWWnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>>> whatever you say. don't bother with an engineering career though mike -
>>> you're out of your depth.
>>
>> Too late - I was a senior communications field engineer for a Fortune 100
>> company from about 1990 to about 2005. Now a senior IS field tech for the
>> same company; more challenging, more troubleshooting, pays better, get
>> stranded in some of the most beautiful places in Northern Arizona. Among
>> other duties, I determine where microwave system troubles originate and
>> go there with what I expect to need to correct the problem - which can
>> include damage from lightning strikes - and I have to make it happen
>> better than 9 times out of 10. I describe the job as "taking Computer Age
>> skills to the end of Bronze Age roads in any weather at any time of day
>> or night." I have been a troubleshooter professionally since August 10,
>> 1970, after I got my FCC First Class Radiotelephone license at age 17,
>> and as an amateur since I was 14 years old. I have done essentially all
>> the maintenance on the cars in my family since moving to Arizona in 1974,
>> taking most of them beyond the 20 year mark. (BTW, I have never in my
>> life had a grade lower than an A on any physics test.) Your
>> qualifications?
>
> dude, i have the first class comms licence books on my desk right now.
> passing that stuff at 14 is not exactly a landmark of academic
> achievement.
>
> i'll stop there.
>

At 17. You talk a big game but never take the field. Since 2/3 of applicants
failed the test the first time around it isn't as trivial as you make it out
to be. Actually, element 3 (not element 4) was the one that got most people.
Several questions in the real test had more than one right answer: In a
transmitting tetrode, when the plate is tuned to resonance the (A) plate
current rises (B) screen current rises (C) cathode current drops (D) grid
current drops. I remember it because it was the most esoteric question on
the test, and my favorite. The answer was (C); although B was also correct
it is not used as an indication of resonance because it can be the result of
other operating conditions. (A is simply wrong, D is an indication of
improper neutralization.) But I'm sure you would have breezed through, what
with your superior abilities and all.

BTW - if the book still refers to first and second class licenses you should
retire it, even if it is the classic study guide "Electronic Communication"
by my friend in the San Leandro Amateur Radio Club, Robert Shrader. The
"class" licenses were replaced by General Radiotelephone licenses around
1985, when only the international classes of stations were retained as
requiring them. The bottom line is: before I was old enough to buy tobacco,
but smart enough not to, I was licensed to be employed as chief engineer at
any radio or television broadcast station or any other transmitting site in
the US.

So, again, what are your qualifications? What are you hiding?

 

Michael Pardee wrote:
> "jim beam" <retard-trap@bad.example.net> wrote in message
> news:SKqdnTmhlpN5mSnUnZ2dnUVZ_heWnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>> "jim beam" <retard-trap@bad.example.net> wrote in message
>>> news:PJidnb-OlLYgby7UnZ2dnUVZ_oWWnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>>>> whatever you say. don't bother with an engineering career though mike -
>>>> you're out of your depth.
>>> Too late - I was a senior communications field engineer for a Fortune 100
>>> company from about 1990 to about 2005. Now a senior IS field tech for the
>>> same company; more challenging, more troubleshooting, pays better, get
>>> stranded in some of the most beautiful places in Northern Arizona. Among
>>> other duties, I determine where microwave system troubles originate and
>>> go there with what I expect to need to correct the problem - which can
>>> include damage from lightning strikes - and I have to make it happen
>>> better than 9 times out of 10. I describe the job as "taking Computer Age
>>> skills to the end of Bronze Age roads in any weather at any time of day
>>> or night." I have been a troubleshooter professionally since August 10,
>>> 1970, after I got my FCC First Class Radiotelephone license at age 17,
>>> and as an amateur since I was 14 years old. I have done essentially all
>>> the maintenance on the cars in my family since moving to Arizona in 1974,
>>> taking most of them beyond the 20 year mark. (BTW, I have never in my
>>> life had a grade lower than an A on any physics test.) Your
>>> qualifications?
>> dude, i have the first class comms licence books on my desk right now.
>> passing that stuff at 14 is not exactly a landmark of academic
>> achievement.
>>
>> i'll stop there.
>>
>
> At 17. You talk a big game but never take the field. Since 2/3 of applicants
> failed the test the first time around it isn't as trivial as you make it out
> to be. Actually, element 3 (not element 4) was the one that got most people.
> Several questions in the real test had more than one right answer: In a
> transmitting tetrode, when the plate is tuned to resonance the (A) plate
> current rises (B) screen current rises (C) cathode current drops (D) grid
> current drops. I remember it because it was the most esoteric question on
> the test, and my favorite. The answer was (C); although B was also correct
> it is not used as an indication of resonance because it can be the result of
> other operating conditions. (A is simply wrong, D is an indication of
> improper neutralization.) But I'm sure you would have breezed through, what
> with your superior abilities and all.
>
> BTW - if the book still refers to first and second class licenses you should
> retire it, even if it is the classic study guide "Electronic Communication"
> by my friend in the San Leandro Amateur Radio Club, Robert Shrader.

/WOW/!!!! oh, wait, i'm not impressed.


> The
> "class" licenses were replaced by General Radiotelephone licenses around
> 1985, when only the international classes of stations were retained as
> requiring them. The bottom line is: before I was old enough to buy tobacco,
> but smart enough not to, I was licensed to be employed as chief engineer at
> any radio or television broadcast station or any other transmitting site in
> the US.

you're a service tech. whoopee.


>
> So, again, what are your qualifications? What are you hiding?

wouldn't you like to know!

 

"jim beam" <retard-trap@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:27ednRxbkel8ninUnZ2dnUVZ_s_inZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> "jim beam" <retard-trap@bad.example.net> wrote in message
>> news:PJidnb6OlLZ3by7UnZ2dnUVZ_oULAAAA@speakeasy.ne t...
>>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>>> <brownt@flash.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:746e1443-4276-4342-975c-ca135f72abc4@q18g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Feb 25, 10:41 am, Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpy...@austin.rr.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 08 Fit. We left it sitting in the dirveway for a while, and I pulled
>>>>> it in in the evening. The engine probably ran for 45 seconds, max.
>>>>> When I got out, there was the strongsmellof unburned gasoline. Was
>>>>> this just a startup artifact, or maybe a coldrun(the funky little
>>>>> blue thermometer was still on)?
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> - dillon I am not invalid
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi, I'm Michael Phelps and Olympic Gold isn't the only
>>>>> Gold I'm thinking of.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi, I'm Michael Phelps and when I'm on Maui, Wowwie.
>>>> There is a difference between the smell of RAW gasoline and partly
>>>> burned exhaust fumes that go through a cold converter that doesn't
>>>> clean them up. I think the OP was smelling the latter.
>>>>
>>>> I think some of you have been on a wild goose chase for quite awhile.
>>>>
>>>> =================================================
>>>>
>>>> That's a possibility. We have been going on a rather subjective
>>>> observation that it was a strong gasoline smell, but if it was just the
>>>> cold engine exhaust he was smelling you are spot on.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>> what a weak-*** climb-down!
>>>
>>
>> Do you have something intelligent to say? Write like a man or go away.
>
> something intelligent like "if tomorrow the OP reports a fire that
> destroys his Fit and possibly his home"? that kind of a man?
>

No - you are still thinking like a teenage girl. This is not about your
petty personal hangups, it is about automobiles.

If you read almost any other contributor's posts you will get the idea. Your
perspective is grossly abnormal - most guys stop thinking like that in their
mid teens - and your obsession with personal issues is just plain creepy.
Like I said, write like a man or go away.

 

"jim beam" <retard-trap@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:loKdnUr7_JUOjinUnZ2dnUVZ_qHinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>
>> So, again, what are your qualifications? What are you hiding?
>
> wouldn't you like to know!
>

That says it all. You have no qualifications whatsoever. We suspected as
much but at least we heard it from you. That explains why you refused (were
unable?) to stay on topic and squirmed whenever the topic became in the
least technical. It also explains why the big bluff of having "physics" but
never delivering.

 

Michael Pardee wrote:
> "jim beam" <retard-trap@bad.example.net> wrote in message
> news:27ednRxbkel8ninUnZ2dnUVZ_s_inZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>> "jim beam" <retard-trap@bad.example.net> wrote in message
>>> news:PJidnb6OlLZ3by7UnZ2dnUVZ_oULAAAA@speakeasy.ne t...
>>>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>>>> <brownt@flash.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:746e1443-4276-4342-975c-ca135f72abc4@q18g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> On Feb 25, 10:41 am, Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpy...@austin.rr.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 08 Fit. We left it sitting in the dirveway for a while, and I pulled
>>>>>> it in in the evening. The engine probably ran for 45 seconds, max.
>>>>>> When I got out, there was the strongsmellof unburned gasoline. Was
>>>>>> this just a startup artifact, or maybe a coldrun(the funky little
>>>>>> blue thermometer was still on)?
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - dillon I am not invalid
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, I'm Michael Phelps and Olympic Gold isn't the only
>>>>>> Gold I'm thinking of.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, I'm Michael Phelps and when I'm on Maui, Wowwie.
>>>>> There is a difference between the smell of RAW gasoline and partly
>>>>> burned exhaust fumes that go through a cold converter that doesn't
>>>>> clean them up. I think the OP was smelling the latter.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think some of you have been on a wild goose chase for quite awhile.
>>>>>
>>>>> =================================================
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a possibility. We have been going on a rather subjective
>>>>> observation that it was a strong gasoline smell, but if it was just the
>>>>> cold engine exhaust he was smelling you are spot on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>> what a weak-*** climb-down!
>>>>
>>> Do you have something intelligent to say? Write like a man or go away.
>> something intelligent like "if tomorrow the OP reports a fire that
>> destroys his Fit and possibly his home"? that kind of a man?
>>
>
> No - you are still thinking like a teenage girl.

so being a girl is supposed to be a bad and demeaning thing? what a
**********!


> This is not about your
> petty personal hangups, it is about automobiles.

wow, not only are you a drama queen, you're demeaning, sexist /and/
delusional!


>
> If you read almost any other contributor's posts you will get the idea. Your
> perspective is grossly abnormal - most guys stop thinking like that in their
> mid teens - and your obsession with personal issues is just plain creepy.
> Like I said, write like a man or go away.

a "man" like you??? what a ing idiot.

 

Michael Pardee wrote:
> "jim beam" <retard-trap@bad.example.net> wrote in message
> news:loKdnUr7_JUOjinUnZ2dnUVZ_qHinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>> So, again, what are your qualifications? What are you hiding?
>> wouldn't you like to know!
>>
>
> That says it all. You have no qualifications whatsoever. We suspected as
> much but at least we heard it from you. That explains why you refused (were
> unable?) to stay on topic and squirmed whenever the topic became in the
> least technical. It also explains why the big bluff of having "physics" but
> never delivering.
>
>

wow, look at the idiot trying to start a fight he won't win! do you
want to lose a ***** measuring contest as well?

 

"jim beam" <retard-trap@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:VfCdndsK7sP8hinUnZ2dnUVZ_uGdnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>
> wow, look at the idiot trying to start a fight he won't win! do you want
> to lose a ***** measuring contest as well?
>

That is the most bizarre and meaningless thing you have written here yet,
and that is really saying something. I don't know exactly what your problem
is - the source of your intellectual and social dysfunctions - but I hope it
is something you can straighten out. If it is a substance problem you can
kick it; the real world is nowhere near as ugly as the one you are showing
us. If you are suffering from bipolar disorder a doctor may be able to help.
All I am sure of is that you are currently one seriously messed up
individual.

 

"jim beam" <retard-trap@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:FYydnU_SAdrXiinUnZ2dnUVZ_trinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> Like I said, write like a man or go away.
>
> a "man" like you??? what a ing idiot.
>
Apparently you can't. Go away.