For whom does your wife work and what are her duties, that she would be
given such diverse types of vehicles? I owned a fleet service business that
operated in six eastern states and I never of such diversity.


mike


"Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote in message
news:YIqdnaG7s-5JIqHbnZ2dnUVZ_oKnnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Let's see if I can remember them all
> Jeep Cherokee - The worst. This thing was in the shop ever few months.
> brake, transmission and axel problems. She went over some train tracks
> once, not hard mind you and the steering wheel became off center. The
> steering wheel always look like she was turning left even when she was
> driving straight. This happened twice.
>
> Ford Escape - great for the first 35K, then got noisy and the transmission
> started slipping.
>
> Dodge Grand Caravan - was okay
>
> Ford Windstar ***** and parts started falling off within the first few
> thousand miles. We only had this car for about 20K, she then changed jobs.
>
> Pontiac Grand Prix was okay, then developed a a clicking in the steering
> wheel. The steering wasn't smooth, you could feel while turning.
>
> Chevrolet Equinox- only had this one for 8K, job change again. Was fairly
> nice vehicle. Ride was way too soft though, felt like we were floating.
>

 

Jeff wrote:
<snip for clarity>

jeff, again,

1. define "a long time".
2. how do you account for the age profiles of vehicles in junk yards?

thanks.

 

Jeff wrote:
<snip for clarity>

jeff, again,

1. define "a long time".
2. how do you account for the age profiles of vehicles in junk yards?

thanks.

 

she's in sales. The cars were all turned over a 60K. The vehicle choices
changed every couple of years.

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:rbmdnapTrdHAvKDbnZ2dnUVZ_uygnZ2d@ptd.net...
> For whom does your wife work and what are her duties, that she would be
> given such diverse types of vehicles? I owned a fleet service business
> that operated in six eastern states and I never of such diversity.
>
>
> mike
>
>
> "Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:YIqdnaG7s-5JIqHbnZ2dnUVZ_oKnnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Let's see if I can remember them all
>> Jeep Cherokee - The worst. This thing was in the shop ever few months.
>> brake, transmission and axel problems. She went over some train tracks
>> once, not hard mind you and the steering wheel became off center. The
>> steering wheel always look like she was turning left even when she was
>> driving straight. This happened twice.
>>
>> Ford Escape - great for the first 35K, then got noisy and the
>> transmission
>> started slipping.
>>
>> Dodge Grand Caravan - was okay
>>
>> Ford Windstar ***** and parts started falling off within the first few
>> thousand miles. We only had this car for about 20K, she then changed
>> jobs.
>>
>> Pontiac Grand Prix was okay, then developed a a clicking in the steering
>> wheel. The steering wasn't smooth, you could feel while turning.
>>
>> Chevrolet Equinox- only had this one for 8K, job change again. Was fairly
>> nice vehicle. Ride was way too soft though, felt like we were floating.
>>
>
>

 

she's in sales. The cars were all turned over a 60K. The vehicle choices
changed every couple of years.

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:rbmdnapTrdHAvKDbnZ2dnUVZ_uygnZ2d@ptd.net...
> For whom does your wife work and what are her duties, that she would be
> given such diverse types of vehicles? I owned a fleet service business
> that operated in six eastern states and I never of such diversity.
>
>
> mike
>
>
> "Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:YIqdnaG7s-5JIqHbnZ2dnUVZ_oKnnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Let's see if I can remember them all
>> Jeep Cherokee - The worst. This thing was in the shop ever few months.
>> brake, transmission and axel problems. She went over some train tracks
>> once, not hard mind you and the steering wheel became off center. The
>> steering wheel always look like she was turning left even when she was
>> driving straight. This happened twice.
>>
>> Ford Escape - great for the first 35K, then got noisy and the
>> transmission
>> started slipping.
>>
>> Dodge Grand Caravan - was okay
>>
>> Ford Windstar ***** and parts started falling off within the first few
>> thousand miles. We only had this car for about 20K, she then changed
>> jobs.
>>
>> Pontiac Grand Prix was okay, then developed a a clicking in the steering
>> wheel. The steering wasn't smooth, you could feel while turning.
>>
>> Chevrolet Equinox- only had this one for 8K, job change again. Was fairly
>> nice vehicle. Ride was way too soft though, felt like we were floating.
>>
>
>

 

Obviously our friend Wade is a Honda owner and blowing smoke. He has no
idea what he is talking about when it comes to the longevity of today's
vehicles. Most corporations give their vehicles, like most of the other
"tools" used in their business, the best of maintenance. Down time costs big
money. Because of federal depreciation tax laws, corporations generally keep
their vehicles in service for five year or 300K WOF.

I might add from my years in the fleet service business I can tell you, with
the exception of the 'courier' companies that buy a lot of Korean cars, few
corporations by foreign cars because they are less cost effective over the
time they must be kept in service.

mike


"trainfan1" <lmsearing@usdatanet.net> wrote in message
news:LNSdnW14qqtrWKHbnZ2dnUVZ_ternZ2d@usadatanet.n et...
>
>

>> "Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote in message
>> news:YIqdnaG7s-5JIqHbnZ2dnUVZ_oKnnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Let's see if I can remember them all
>>> Jeep Cherokee - The worst.
>>> This thing was in the shop ever few months.
>>> brake, transmission and axel problems. She went over some train tracks
>>> once, not hard mind you and the steering wheel became off center. The
>>> steering wheel always look like she was turning left even when she was
>>> driving straight. This happened twice.
>>>
>>> Ford Escape - great for the first 35K, then got noisy and the
>>> transmission
>>> started slipping.
>>>
>>> Dodge Grand Caravan - was okay
>>>
>>> Ford Windstar ***** and parts started falling off within the first few
>>> thousand miles. We only had this car for about 20K, she then changed
>>> jobs.
>>>
>>> Pontiac Grand Prix was okay, then developed a a clicking in the steering
>>> wheel. The steering wasn't smooth, you could feel while turning.
>>>
>>> Chevrolet Equinox- only had this one for 8K, job change again. Was
>>> fairly
>>> nice vehicle. Ride was way too soft though, felt like we were floating.
>>
>> Likewise, you're going to find people who have had excellent service from
>> these vehicles and others who didn't. Likewise for the Toyotas and
>> Hondas.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>
> Also, company cars get the snot beat out of them. They never last. My
> last company car, a Taurus, had to be traded in at 220,000 mi. ("it might
> start getting unreliable" they said).
>
> My current company car, another Taurus, is at 189,00 mi. now, & they'll
> probably make me turn in that one too at ~220,000 mi. next year.
>
> Bastards. They should buy some quality vehicles that last next time.
>
> Rob

 

Obviously our friend Wade is a Honda owner and blowing smoke. He has no
idea what he is talking about when it comes to the longevity of today's
vehicles. Most corporations give their vehicles, like most of the other
"tools" used in their business, the best of maintenance. Down time costs big
money. Because of federal depreciation tax laws, corporations generally keep
their vehicles in service for five year or 300K WOF.

I might add from my years in the fleet service business I can tell you, with
the exception of the 'courier' companies that buy a lot of Korean cars, few
corporations by foreign cars because they are less cost effective over the
time they must be kept in service.

mike


"trainfan1" <lmsearing@usdatanet.net> wrote in message
news:LNSdnW14qqtrWKHbnZ2dnUVZ_ternZ2d@usadatanet.n et...
>
>

>> "Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote in message
>> news:YIqdnaG7s-5JIqHbnZ2dnUVZ_oKnnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Let's see if I can remember them all
>>> Jeep Cherokee - The worst.
>>> This thing was in the shop ever few months.
>>> brake, transmission and axel problems. She went over some train tracks
>>> once, not hard mind you and the steering wheel became off center. The
>>> steering wheel always look like she was turning left even when she was
>>> driving straight. This happened twice.
>>>
>>> Ford Escape - great for the first 35K, then got noisy and the
>>> transmission
>>> started slipping.
>>>
>>> Dodge Grand Caravan - was okay
>>>
>>> Ford Windstar ***** and parts started falling off within the first few
>>> thousand miles. We only had this car for about 20K, she then changed
>>> jobs.
>>>
>>> Pontiac Grand Prix was okay, then developed a a clicking in the steering
>>> wheel. The steering wasn't smooth, you could feel while turning.
>>>
>>> Chevrolet Equinox- only had this one for 8K, job change again. Was
>>> fairly
>>> nice vehicle. Ride was way too soft though, felt like we were floating.
>>
>> Likewise, you're going to find people who have had excellent service from
>> these vehicles and others who didn't. Likewise for the Toyotas and
>> Hondas.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>
> Also, company cars get the snot beat out of them. They never last. My
> last company car, a Taurus, had to be traded in at 220,000 mi. ("it might
> start getting unreliable" they said).
>
> My current company car, another Taurus, is at 189,00 mi. now, & they'll
> probably make me turn in that one too at ~220,000 mi. next year.
>
> Bastards. They should buy some quality vehicles that last next time.
>
> Rob

 

What were the model years of those twenty cars?


mike

"Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote in message
news:J4Odnbdv5PEoW6HbnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Whatever. I'm going by personal experience.
> We've owned lots of other cars. The only foreign car that we had a major
> problem with was an old Audi Fox.
> 4 Acura's Only 1 problem with the Legend after a major accident. Insurance
> company insisted on using aftermarket parts for the repair.
> 1 Mercedes airbag problem which Mercedes fixed for free even though the
> car was out of warranty.
> 2 Mazda's no problems
> 3 Volvos no problems
> 6 Hondas no problems
> 1 Isuzu no problems
> 1 Mitsubishi no problems
> 1 Nissan no problems
>
> The only reason any of theses cars were traded in was because we wanted
> to. All, except for the 2 Volvos had more miles than any of the American
> cars we had.

 

What were the model years of those twenty cars?


mike

"Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote in message
news:J4Odnbdv5PEoW6HbnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Whatever. I'm going by personal experience.
> We've owned lots of other cars. The only foreign car that we had a major
> problem with was an old Audi Fox.
> 4 Acura's Only 1 problem with the Legend after a major accident. Insurance
> company insisted on using aftermarket parts for the repair.
> 1 Mercedes airbag problem which Mercedes fixed for free even though the
> car was out of warranty.
> 2 Mazda's no problems
> 3 Volvos no problems
> 6 Hondas no problems
> 1 Isuzu no problems
> 1 Mitsubishi no problems
> 1 Nissan no problems
>
> The only reason any of theses cars were traded in was because we wanted
> to. All, except for the 2 Volvos had more miles than any of the American
> cars we had.

 

What is she selling, and for whom, that she needs an SUV or a Van, yet can
get by with a small sedan?

mike


"Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote in message
news:tZudnZFfWMtXuaDbnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> she's in sales. The cars were all turned over a 60K. The vehicle choices
> changed every couple of years.
>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:rbmdnapTrdHAvKDbnZ2dnUVZ_uygnZ2d@ptd.net...
>> For whom does your wife work and what are her duties, that she would be
>> given such diverse types of vehicles? I owned a fleet service business
>> that operated in six eastern states and I never heard of such diversity.
>>
>>
>> mike
>>
>>
>> "Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote in message
>> news:YIqdnaG7s-5JIqHbnZ2dnUVZ_oKnnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Let's see if I can remember them all
>>> Jeep Cherokee - The worst. This thing was in the shop ever few months.
>>> brake, transmission and axel problems. She went over some train tracks
>>> once, not hard mind you and the steering wheel became off center. The
>>> steering wheel always look like she was turning left even when she was
>>> driving straight. This happened twice.
>>>
>>> Ford Escape - great for the first 35K, then got noisy and the
>>> transmission
>>> started slipping.
>>>
>>> Dodge Grand Caravan - was okay
>>>
>>> Ford Windstar ***** and parts started falling off within the first few
>>> thousand miles. We only had this car for about 20K, she then changed
>>> jobs.
>>>
>>> Pontiac Grand Prix was okay, then developed a a clicking in the steering
>>> wheel. The steering wasn't smooth, you could feel while turning.
>>>
>>> Chevrolet Equinox- only had this one for 8K, job change again. Was
>>> fairly
>>> nice vehicle. Ride was way too soft though, felt like we were floating.
>>>
>>
>>
>

 

What is she selling, and for whom, that she needs an SUV or a Van, yet can
get by with a small sedan?

mike


"Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote in message
news:tZudnZFfWMtXuaDbnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> she's in sales. The cars were all turned over a 60K. The vehicle choices
> changed every couple of years.
>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:rbmdnapTrdHAvKDbnZ2dnUVZ_uygnZ2d@ptd.net...
>> For whom does your wife work and what are her duties, that she would be
>> given such diverse types of vehicles? I owned a fleet service business
>> that operated in six eastern states and I never heard of such diversity.
>>
>>
>> mike
>>
>>
>> "Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote in message
>> news:YIqdnaG7s-5JIqHbnZ2dnUVZ_oKnnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Let's see if I can remember them all
>>> Jeep Cherokee - The worst. This thing was in the shop ever few months.
>>> brake, transmission and axel problems. She went over some train tracks
>>> once, not hard mind you and the steering wheel became off center. The
>>> steering wheel always look like she was turning left even when she was
>>> driving straight. This happened twice.
>>>
>>> Ford Escape - great for the first 35K, then got noisy and the
>>> transmission
>>> started slipping.
>>>
>>> Dodge Grand Caravan - was okay
>>>
>>> Ford Windstar ***** and parts started falling off within the first few
>>> thousand miles. We only had this car for about 20K, she then changed
>>> jobs.
>>>
>>> Pontiac Grand Prix was okay, then developed a a clicking in the steering
>>> wheel. The steering wasn't smooth, you could feel while turning.
>>>
>>> Chevrolet Equinox- only had this one for 8K, job change again. Was
>>> fairly
>>> nice vehicle. Ride was way too soft though, felt like we were floating.
>>>
>>
>>
>

 

I had a honda accord exi, and the cam lobes wore at 30k. What a piece of
that rattle bucket was.
"Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:5n3%h.2237$Q96.481@trnddc04...
>
> "Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:YIqdnaG7s-5JIqHbnZ2dnUVZ_oKnnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > Let's see if I can remember them all
> > Jeep Cherokee - The worst.
>
> My uncle had a Jeep Cherokee that went over 200,000 mi without problems or
> even replacing the brake pads. It was kind of cold in the winter though.
> Needed a new thermostat.
>
> >This thing was in the shop ever few months.
> > brake, transmission and axel problems. She went over some train tracks
> > once, not hard mind you and the steering wheel became off center. The
> > steering wheel always look like she was turning left even when she was
> > driving straight. This happened twice.
> >
> > Ford Escape - great for the first 35K, then got noisy and the
transmission
> > started slipping.
> >
> > Dodge Grand Caravan - was okay
> >
> > Ford Windstar ***** and parts started falling off within the first few
> > thousand miles. We only had this car for about 20K, she then changed
jobs.
> >
> > Pontiac Grand Prix was okay, then developed a a clicking in the steering
> > wheel. The steering wasn't smooth, you could feel while turning.
> >
> > Chevrolet Equinox- only had this one for 8K, job change again. Was
fairly
> > nice vehicle. Ride was way too soft though, felt like we were floating.
>
> Likewise, you're going to find people who have had excellent service from
> these vehicles and others who didn't. Likewise for the Toyotas and Hondas.
>
> Jeff
>
> > "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> > news:T%1%h.176$HR1.174@trnddc01...
> >>
> >> "Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote in message
> >> news:bvadnezc3JJZBaHbnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >>> My problem with American cars is not with design. Some of them look
> >>> quite nice. It's the long term quality of the car. My wife gets a new
> >>> company car every couple of years. The are usually great for the 30K
> >>> miles or so. Around 35 to 40K they start have little issues, they seem
> >>> to get louder and the ride is a noticeably rougher. On a couple of the
> >>> vehicles you could feel the transmission start to slip. By the time
she
> >>> turns it in at around 60K miles, we can't wait to get rid of it.
> >>
> >> I have a '97 Contour with over 140k mi on it. It still runs and handles
> >> great. Great long-term quality.
> >>
> >> I have heard similar things about other Fords, Toyotas, Chevys, Hondas,
> >> etc.
> >>
> >> They all make good cars that last a long time.
> >>
> >> Just what models did your wife get?
> >>
> >> Jeff
> >
>

 

I had a honda accord exi, and the cam lobes wore at 30k. What a piece of
that rattle bucket was.
"Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:5n3%h.2237$Q96.481@trnddc04...
>
> "Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:YIqdnaG7s-5JIqHbnZ2dnUVZ_oKnnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > Let's see if I can remember them all
> > Jeep Cherokee - The worst.
>
> My uncle had a Jeep Cherokee that went over 200,000 mi without problems or
> even replacing the brake pads. It was kind of cold in the winter though.
> Needed a new thermostat.
>
> >This thing was in the shop ever few months.
> > brake, transmission and axel problems. She went over some train tracks
> > once, not hard mind you and the steering wheel became off center. The
> > steering wheel always look like she was turning left even when she was
> > driving straight. This happened twice.
> >
> > Ford Escape - great for the first 35K, then got noisy and the
transmission
> > started slipping.
> >
> > Dodge Grand Caravan - was okay
> >
> > Ford Windstar ***** and parts started falling off within the first few
> > thousand miles. We only had this car for about 20K, she then changed
jobs.
> >
> > Pontiac Grand Prix was okay, then developed a a clicking in the steering
> > wheel. The steering wasn't smooth, you could feel while turning.
> >
> > Chevrolet Equinox- only had this one for 8K, job change again. Was
fairly
> > nice vehicle. Ride was way too soft though, felt like we were floating.
>
> Likewise, you're going to find people who have had excellent service from
> these vehicles and others who didn't. Likewise for the Toyotas and Hondas.
>
> Jeff
>
> > "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> > news:T%1%h.176$HR1.174@trnddc01...
> >>
> >> "Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote in message
> >> news:bvadnezc3JJZBaHbnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >>> My problem with American cars is not with design. Some of them look
> >>> quite nice. It's the long term quality of the car. My wife gets a new
> >>> company car every couple of years. The are usually great for the 30K
> >>> miles or so. Around 35 to 40K they start have little issues, they seem
> >>> to get louder and the ride is a noticeably rougher. On a couple of the
> >>> vehicles you could feel the transmission start to slip. By the time
she
> >>> turns it in at around 60K miles, we can't wait to get rid of it.
> >>
> >> I have a '97 Contour with over 140k mi on it. It still runs and handles
> >> great. Great long-term quality.
> >>
> >> I have heard similar things about other Fords, Toyotas, Chevys, Hondas,
> >> etc.
> >>
> >> They all make good cars that last a long time.
> >>
> >> Just what models did your wife get?
> >>
> >> Jeff
> >
>

 

Pure bullshit!
"Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote in message
news:J4Odnbdv5PEoW6HbnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Whatever. I'm going by personal experience.
> We've owned lots of other cars. The only foreign car that we had a major
> problem with was an old Audi Fox.
> 4 Acura's Only 1 problem with the Legend after a major accident. Insurance
> company insisted on using aftermarket parts for the repair.
> 1 Mercedes airbag problem which Mercedes fixed for free even though the
car
> was out of warranty.
> 2 Mazda's no problems
> 3 Volvos no problems
> 6 Hondas no problems
> 1 Isuzu no problems
> 1 Mitsubishi no problems
> 1 Nissan no problems
>
> The only reason any of theses cars were traded in was because we wanted
to.
> All, except for the 2 Volvos had more miles than any of the American cars
we
> had.
>
> "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:5n3%h.2237$Q96.481@trnddc04...
> >
> > "Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote in message
> > news:YIqdnaG7s-5JIqHbnZ2dnUVZ_oKnnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> Let's see if I can remember them all
> >> Jeep Cherokee - The worst.
> >
> > My uncle had a Jeep Cherokee that went over 200,000 mi without problems
or
> > even replacing the brake pads. It was kind of cold in the winter though.
> > Needed a new thermostat.
> >
> >>This thing was in the shop ever few months.
> >> brake, transmission and axel problems. She went over some train
tracks
> >> once, not hard mind you and the steering wheel became off center. The
> >> steering wheel always look like she was turning left even when she was
> >> driving straight. This happened twice.
> >>
> >> Ford Escape - great for the first 35K, then got noisy and the
> >> transmission
> >> started slipping.
> >>
> >> Dodge Grand Caravan - was okay
> >>
> >> Ford Windstar ***** and parts started falling off within the first few
> >> thousand miles. We only had this car for about 20K, she then changed
> >> jobs.
> >>
> >> Pontiac Grand Prix was okay, then developed a a clicking in the
steering
> >> wheel. The steering wasn't smooth, you could feel while turning.
> >>
> >> Chevrolet Equinox- only had this one for 8K, job change again. Was
fairly
> >> nice vehicle. Ride was way too soft though, felt like we were floating.
> >
> > Likewise, you're going to find people who have had excellent service
from
> > these vehicles and others who didn't. Likewise for the Toyotas and
Hondas.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >> "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:T%1%h.176$HR1.174@trnddc01...
> >>>
> >>> "Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:bvadnezc3JJZBaHbnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >>>> My problem with American cars is not with design. Some of them look
> >>>> quite nice. It's the long term quality of the car. My wife gets a new
> >>>> company car every couple of years. The are usually great for the 30K
> >>>> miles or so. Around 35 to 40K they start have little issues, they
seem
> >>>> to get louder and the ride is a noticeably rougher. On a couple of
the
> >>>> vehicles you could feel the transmission start to slip. By the time
she
> >>>> turns it in at around 60K miles, we can't wait to get rid of it.
> >>>
> >>> I have a '97 Contour with over 140k mi on it. It still runs and
handles
> >>> great. Great long-term quality.
> >>>
> >>> I have heard similar things about other Fords, Toyotas, Chevys,
Hondas,
> >>> etc.
> >>>
> >>> They all make good cars that last a long time.
> >>>
> >>> Just what models did your wife get?
> >>>
> >>> Jeff
> >>
> >
>

 

Pure bullshit!
"Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote in message
news:J4Odnbdv5PEoW6HbnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Whatever. I'm going by personal experience.
> We've owned lots of other cars. The only foreign car that we had a major
> problem with was an old Audi Fox.
> 4 Acura's Only 1 problem with the Legend after a major accident. Insurance
> company insisted on using aftermarket parts for the repair.
> 1 Mercedes airbag problem which Mercedes fixed for free even though the
car
> was out of warranty.
> 2 Mazda's no problems
> 3 Volvos no problems
> 6 Hondas no problems
> 1 Isuzu no problems
> 1 Mitsubishi no problems
> 1 Nissan no problems
>
> The only reason any of theses cars were traded in was because we wanted
to.
> All, except for the 2 Volvos had more miles than any of the American cars
we
> had.
>
> "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:5n3%h.2237$Q96.481@trnddc04...
> >
> > "Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote in message
> > news:YIqdnaG7s-5JIqHbnZ2dnUVZ_oKnnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> Let's see if I can remember them all
> >> Jeep Cherokee - The worst.
> >
> > My uncle had a Jeep Cherokee that went over 200,000 mi without problems
or
> > even replacing the brake pads. It was kind of cold in the winter though.
> > Needed a new thermostat.
> >
> >>This thing was in the shop ever few months.
> >> brake, transmission and axel problems. She went over some train
tracks
> >> once, not hard mind you and the steering wheel became off center. The
> >> steering wheel always look like she was turning left even when she was
> >> driving straight. This happened twice.
> >>
> >> Ford Escape - great for the first 35K, then got noisy and the
> >> transmission
> >> started slipping.
> >>
> >> Dodge Grand Caravan - was okay
> >>
> >> Ford Windstar ***** and parts started falling off within the first few
> >> thousand miles. We only had this car for about 20K, she then changed
> >> jobs.
> >>
> >> Pontiac Grand Prix was okay, then developed a a clicking in the
steering
> >> wheel. The steering wasn't smooth, you could feel while turning.
> >>
> >> Chevrolet Equinox- only had this one for 8K, job change again. Was
fairly
> >> nice vehicle. Ride was way too soft though, felt like we were floating.
> >
> > Likewise, you're going to find people who have had excellent service
from
> > these vehicles and others who didn't. Likewise for the Toyotas and
Hondas.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >> "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:T%1%h.176$HR1.174@trnddc01...
> >>>
> >>> "Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:bvadnezc3JJZBaHbnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >>>> My problem with American cars is not with design. Some of them look
> >>>> quite nice. It's the long term quality of the car. My wife gets a new
> >>>> company car every couple of years. The are usually great for the 30K
> >>>> miles or so. Around 35 to 40K they start have little issues, they
seem
> >>>> to get louder and the ride is a noticeably rougher. On a couple of
the
> >>>> vehicles you could feel the transmission start to slip. By the time
she
> >>>> turns it in at around 60K miles, we can't wait to get rid of it.
> >>>
> >>> I have a '97 Contour with over 140k mi on it. It still runs and
handles
> >>> great. Great long-term quality.
> >>>
> >>> I have heard similar things about other Fords, Toyotas, Chevys,
Hondas,
> >>> etc.
> >>>
> >>> They all make good cars that last a long time.
> >>>
> >>> Just what models did your wife get?
> >>>
> >>> Jeff
> >>
> >
>