On Sat, 05 May 2007 17:41:00 GMT, "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote:

>Ford
>Escort

Horse Hockey!

I had one (89) that required 3 transmission rebuilds in 190,000.

New alternator 4 times.

Air conditioning work EVERY year.

It caught on fire somewhere around 190K. Luckily I got it out in
time.

Oh and the f*ing timing belt broke like clockwork at 55K miles....

--


Scott in Florida

 

On Sat, 05 May 2007 17:41:00 GMT, "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote:

>Ford
>Escort

Horse Hockey!

I had one (89) that required 3 transmission rebuilds in 190,000.

New alternator 4 times.

Air conditioning work EVERY year.

It caught on fire somewhere around 190K. Luckily I got it out in
time.

Oh and the f*ing timing belt broke like clockwork at 55K miles....

--


Scott in Florida

 

"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 05 May 2007 17:41:00 GMT, "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>>Ford
>>Escort
>
> Horse Hockey!
>
> I had one (89) that required 3 transmission rebuilds in 190,000.
>
> New alternator 4 times.
>
> Air conditioning work EVERY year.
>
> It caught on fire somewhere around 190K. Luckily I got it out in
> time.

You should have just pulled it out of the garage and let it burn.

> Oh and the f*ing timing belt broke like clockwork at 55K miles....

Not every Escort was great, just like not every Camry is great.

But a lot of Escorts go a long ways.

Jeff

> Scott in Florida
>
>

 

"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 05 May 2007 17:41:00 GMT, "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>>Ford
>>Escort
>
> Horse Hockey!
>
> I had one (89) that required 3 transmission rebuilds in 190,000.
>
> New alternator 4 times.
>
> Air conditioning work EVERY year.
>
> It caught on fire somewhere around 190K. Luckily I got it out in
> time.

You should have just pulled it out of the garage and let it burn.

> Oh and the f*ing timing belt broke like clockwork at 55K miles....

Not every Escort was great, just like not every Camry is great.

But a lot of Escorts go a long ways.

Jeff

> Scott in Florida
>
>

 

On Sat, 05 May 2007 19:17:30 GMT, "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote:

>
>"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message
>news:k18cb3ptq6sajjsm6idqgiaek5gm6kgi4s@4ax.com.. .
>> On Sat, 05 May 2007 17:41:00 GMT, "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Ford
>>>Escort
>>
>> Horse Hockey!
>>
>> I had one (89) that required 3 transmission rebuilds in 190,000.
>>
>> New alternator 4 times.
>>
>> Air conditioning work EVERY year.
>>
>> It caught on fire somewhere around 190K. Luckily I got it out in
>> time.
>
>You should have just pulled it out of the garage and let it burn.

Nah...it was in the driveway.

I 'gave' it away after that....

btw I take damned good care of my 'wheels'. It is just that you HAVE
to with American junk...

My Toyotas are a dream compared with the American Iron I've owned.

Very boring these Toys....


>
>> Oh and the f*ing timing belt broke like clockwork at 55K miles....
>
>Not every Escort was great, just like not every Camry is great.
>
>But a lot of Escorts go a long ways.
>
>Jeff
>
>> Scott in Florida
>>
>>
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Scott in Florida

 

On Sat, 05 May 2007 19:17:30 GMT, "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote:

>
>"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message
>news:k18cb3ptq6sajjsm6idqgiaek5gm6kgi4s@4ax.com.. .
>> On Sat, 05 May 2007 17:41:00 GMT, "Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Ford
>>>Escort
>>
>> Horse Hockey!
>>
>> I had one (89) that required 3 transmission rebuilds in 190,000.
>>
>> New alternator 4 times.
>>
>> Air conditioning work EVERY year.
>>
>> It caught on fire somewhere around 190K. Luckily I got it out in
>> time.
>
>You should have just pulled it out of the garage and let it burn.

Nah...it was in the driveway.

I 'gave' it away after that....

btw I take damned good care of my 'wheels'. It is just that you HAVE
to with American junk...

My Toyotas are a dream compared with the American Iron I've owned.

Very boring these Toys....


>
>> Oh and the f*ing timing belt broke like clockwork at 55K miles....
>
>Not every Escort was great, just like not every Camry is great.
>
>But a lot of Escorts go a long ways.
>
>Jeff
>
>> Scott in Florida
>>
>>
--


Scott in Florida

 

"Ashton Crusher" <demi@moore.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 5 May 2007 07:46:16 -0700, "Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote:
>
>>My problem with American cars is not with design. Some of them look quite
>>nice. It's the long term quality of the car. My wife gets a new company
>>car
>>every couple of years. The are usually great for the 30K miles or so.
>>Around
>>35 to 40K they start have little issues, they seem to get louder and the
>>ride is a noticeably rougher. On a couple of the vehicles you could feel
>>the
>>transmission start to slip. By the time she turns it in at around 60K
>>miles,
>>we can't wait to get rid of it.
>>
>
> Maybe so, yet we run hundreds of "American" cars in our fleet and this
> just never happens. Most run way past 100K.
>
At the end of January I picked up a Jag x-type with 3200 miles from a
relative. I bartered my 1992 Taurus with over 100,000 very hard New York
City miles on it to my mechanic for some work on my GMC truck. He serviced
the car for the past five years and promptly gave the car as a present to
one of his brothers without so much as changing the oil. The kid took their
mother to Florida and back in the car and they had nothing but compliments
and thanks for me upon their return. The only conclusion I can come to is
that Ford makes junk but not everyone recognizes it, or that possibly the
reputation of Japanese cars is a bit exaggerated.

Double Tap

 

"Ashton Crusher" <demi@moore.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 5 May 2007 07:46:16 -0700, "Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote:
>
>>My problem with American cars is not with design. Some of them look quite
>>nice. It's the long term quality of the car. My wife gets a new company
>>car
>>every couple of years. The are usually great for the 30K miles or so.
>>Around
>>35 to 40K they start have little issues, they seem to get louder and the
>>ride is a noticeably rougher. On a couple of the vehicles you could feel
>>the
>>transmission start to slip. By the time she turns it in at around 60K
>>miles,
>>we can't wait to get rid of it.
>>
>
> Maybe so, yet we run hundreds of "American" cars in our fleet and this
> just never happens. Most run way past 100K.
>
At the end of January I picked up a Jag x-type with 3200 miles from a
relative. I bartered my 1992 Taurus with over 100,000 very hard New York
City miles on it to my mechanic for some work on my GMC truck. He serviced
the car for the past five years and promptly gave the car as a present to
one of his brothers without so much as changing the oil. The kid took their
mother to Florida and back in the car and they had nothing but compliments
and thanks for me upon their return. The only conclusion I can come to is
that Ford makes junk but not everyone recognizes it, or that possibly the
reputation of Japanese cars is a bit exaggerated.

Double Tap

 

On 5 May 2007 10:05:55 -0700, isquat@gmail.com wrote:

>
>i'm surprised toyolet

Nothing like an intelligent comment. <G>

And people wonder why nobody takes their comments seriously.

 

On 5 May 2007 10:05:55 -0700, isquat@gmail.com wrote:

>
>i'm surprised toyolet

Nothing like an intelligent comment. <G>

And people wonder why nobody takes their comments seriously.

 

On Sat, 5 May 2007 07:46:16 -0700, "Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote:

>My problem with American cars is not with design. Some of them look quite
>nice. It's the long term quality of the car.

Right!

I think the Fusion looks GREAT! It's really a nice car.

None of my last 4-5 cars have been what I considered the best looking
in the class. In fact, if some of the Japanese brands could hire some
Detroit designers, we may just get offered the perfect car.

I would LOVE for the Fusion to turn out to be a long term, reliable
car. It's really a sharp ride!

 

On Sat, 5 May 2007 07:46:16 -0700, "Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote:

>My problem with American cars is not with design. Some of them look quite
>nice. It's the long term quality of the car.

Right!

I think the Fusion looks GREAT! It's really a nice car.

None of my last 4-5 cars have been what I considered the best looking
in the class. In fact, if some of the Japanese brands could hire some
Detroit designers, we may just get offered the perfect car.

I would LOVE for the Fusion to turn out to be a long term, reliable
car. It's really a sharp ride!

 

He can't prove that by me. I own a four FMC models, a '41, '64, '71 and '83
with 100K to 300K on the clock, that all look and run great. All purchased
new and all provided the proper preventive maintenance. Perhaps he bought
his used and did not properly maintain them, may account for his biased
opinion.

mike

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"Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> I have a '97 Contour with over 140k mi on it. It still runs and handles
>>> great. Great long-term quality.
>>>
>>> I have heard similar things about other Fords, Toyotas, Chevys, Hondas,
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> They all make good cars that last a long time.
>>
>> detroit otoh has vehicle less than 10 years vintage being junked, and
>> they're worn out at 1/3rd the mileage.

 

He can't prove that by me. I own a four FMC models, a '41, '64, '71 and '83
with 100K to 300K on the clock, that all look and run great. All purchased
new and all provided the proper preventive maintenance. Perhaps he bought
his used and did not properly maintain them, may account for his biased
opinion.

mike

..
"Jeff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:XC2%h.112$py5.88@trnddc06...

>>>
>>> I have a '97 Contour with over 140k mi on it. It still runs and handles
>>> great. Great long-term quality.
>>>
>>> I have heard similar things about other Fords, Toyotas, Chevys, Hondas,
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> They all make good cars that last a long time.
>>
>> detroit otoh has vehicle less than 10 years vintage being junked, and
>> they're worn out at 1/3rd the mileage.

 

For whom does your wife work and what are her duties, that she would be
given such diverse types of vehicles? I owned a fleet service business that
operated in six eastern states and I never of such diversity.


mike


"Wade" <nugr**v*@excite.com> wrote in message
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> Let's see if I can remember them all
> Jeep Cherokee - The worst. This thing was in the shop ever few months.
> brake, transmission and axel problems. She went over some train tracks
> once, not hard mind you and the steering wheel became off center. The
> steering wheel always look like she was turning left even when she was
> driving straight. This happened twice.
>
> Ford Escape - great for the first 35K, then got noisy and the transmission
> started slipping.
>
> Dodge Grand Caravan - was okay
>
> Ford Windstar ***** and parts started falling off within the first few
> thousand miles. We only had this car for about 20K, she then changed jobs.
>
> Pontiac Grand Prix was okay, then developed a a clicking in the steering
> wheel. The steering wasn't smooth, you could feel while turning.
>
> Chevrolet Equinox- only had this one for 8K, job change again. Was fairly
> nice vehicle. Ride was way too soft though, felt like we were floating.
>