You should take your car immediately to a dealer. They are the only ones who
are experienced enough to be able to deal with this problem.

"ECB" <avee8or@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:nrmruv8uab15d09fn9b4c4arfhq8fj78qd@4ax.com...
>
> Wondering if any one else has experience something similar
> to the following.
>
> On 12/22 I drove through the Security gate at the local airport
> (it's the type gate requiring a card to be placed against a reader
> to trigger the gate open). As I drove I noticed the Service Indicator
> light on my 2000 Honda CRV.
>
> I ended up paying more than $300 for the replacement of the O2
> Sensor unit.
>
> On 12/27 I drove to the airport again .... after exiting the airport
> through the security gate .... you guessed it ... the Service
> Indicator light came on.
>
> At this writing I am convincing the auto service establishment
> that the original O2 Sensor did not have to be replaced as the
> Service Indicator was false from the get-go.
>
> I have heard that some cell phones and radar detector units can
> trigger Service Indicators .... anyone heard of Security Gates
> causing the same???
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ed B.

 

You should take your car immediately to a dealer. They are the only ones who
are experienced enough to be able to deal with this problem.

"ECB" <avee8or@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:nrmruv8uab15d09fn9b4c4arfhq8fj78qd@4ax.com...
>
> Wondering if any one else has experience something similar
> to the following.
>
> On 12/22 I drove through the Security gate at the local airport
> (it's the type gate requiring a card to be placed against a reader
> to trigger the gate open). As I drove I noticed the Service Indicator
> light on my 2000 Honda CRV.
>
> I ended up paying more than $300 for the replacement of the O2
> Sensor unit.
>
> On 12/27 I drove to the airport again .... after exiting the airport
> through the security gate .... you guessed it ... the Service
> Indicator light came on.
>
> At this writing I am convincing the auto service establishment
> that the original O2 Sensor did not have to be replaced as the
> Service Indicator was false from the get-go.
>
> I have heard that some cell phones and radar detector units can
> trigger Service Indicators .... anyone heard of Security Gates
> causing the same???
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ed B.

 

"Scott MacLean" <scottmNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in
news:0dhIb.5040$Vl6.1346947@news20.bellglobal.com:

> Just because things are "hard wired" doesn't mean they are necessarily
> immune to external RF or magnetic fields. The security gate he
> mentions transmits RF to activate the circuitry in the card. It is not
> outside the realm of possibility that the RF is also triggering a
> spurious signal in one of the on-board processors in his car, causing
> the problem he is describing.
>
> "CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message
> news:bcKdnSaCsK_XeHCiRVn-uw@comcast.com...
>> I have not heard of that. Everything in in your car is hardwired, I
>> believe, and shouldn't be prey to stray radio signals.
>>
>> Perhaps as you left the airport the time period between starting
>> your car and arriving at the gate was such that the car had warmed up
>> enough to go into the closed loop mode from the open loop mode. ( I
>> think I have those right) After going into the new mode it then takes
>> information from engine sensors for engine management, as opposed to
>> relying on the preprogrammed computer,
>> and as such there was a fault that triggered the light.
>>
>> CaptainKrunch
>>
>>
>>
>> "ECB" <avee8or@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:nrmruv8uab15d09fn9b4c4arfhq8fj78qd@4ax.com...
>> >
>> > Wondering if any one else has experience something similar
>> > to the following.
>> >
>> > On 12/22 I drove through the Security gate at the local airport
>> > (it's the type gate requiring a card to be placed against a reader
>> > to trigger the gate open). As I drove I noticed the Service
>> > Indicator light on my 2000 Honda CRV.
>> >
>> > I ended up paying more than $300 for the replacement of the O2
>> > Sensor unit.
>> >
>> > On 12/27 I drove to the airport again .... after exiting the
>> > airport through the security gate .... you guessed it ... the
>> > Service Indicator light came on.
>> >
>> > At this writing I am convincing the auto service establishment
>> > that the original O2 Sensor did not have to be replaced as the
>> > Service Indicator was false from the get-go.
>> >
>> > I have heard that some cell phones and radar detector units can
>> > trigger Service Indicators .... anyone heard of Security Gates
>> > causing the same???
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > Ed B.
>>
>>
>
>
>

The automotive electrical environment is one of the toughest around.Very
noisy from all those relays,solenoids,ignition noise,widely varying load
changes.I doubt the low level RF from a card reader or E-Pass system is
going to trigger such things.The normal spikes,surges and noise present
would be MUCH greater,so the control processors would have a large EMI
immunity designed in.

The OBDII system does record the fault codes.That should be a clue.

More likely that a connector problem or corroded/frayed/cut wire or
intermittent sensor is the source of the problem.Even a loose ground
somewhere.

It will be hard to duplicate this problem!
(or lots of trips to the airport!)

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

 

"Scott MacLean" <scottmNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in
news:0dhIb.5040$Vl6.1346947@news20.bellglobal.com:

> Just because things are "hard wired" doesn't mean they are necessarily
> immune to external RF or magnetic fields. The security gate he
> mentions transmits RF to activate the circuitry in the card. It is not
> outside the realm of possibility that the RF is also triggering a
> spurious signal in one of the on-board processors in his car, causing
> the problem he is describing.
>
> "CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message
> news:bcKdnSaCsK_XeHCiRVn-uw@comcast.com...
>> I have not heard of that. Everything in in your car is hardwired, I
>> believe, and shouldn't be prey to stray radio signals.
>>
>> Perhaps as you left the airport the time period between starting
>> your car and arriving at the gate was such that the car had warmed up
>> enough to go into the closed loop mode from the open loop mode. ( I
>> think I have those right) After going into the new mode it then takes
>> information from engine sensors for engine management, as opposed to
>> relying on the preprogrammed computer,
>> and as such there was a fault that triggered the light.
>>
>> CaptainKrunch
>>
>>
>>
>> "ECB" <avee8or@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:nrmruv8uab15d09fn9b4c4arfhq8fj78qd@4ax.com...
>> >
>> > Wondering if any one else has experience something similar
>> > to the following.
>> >
>> > On 12/22 I drove through the Security gate at the local airport
>> > (it's the type gate requiring a card to be placed against a reader
>> > to trigger the gate open). As I drove I noticed the Service
>> > Indicator light on my 2000 Honda CRV.
>> >
>> > I ended up paying more than $300 for the replacement of the O2
>> > Sensor unit.
>> >
>> > On 12/27 I drove to the airport again .... after exiting the
>> > airport through the security gate .... you guessed it ... the
>> > Service Indicator light came on.
>> >
>> > At this writing I am convincing the auto service establishment
>> > that the original O2 Sensor did not have to be replaced as the
>> > Service Indicator was false from the get-go.
>> >
>> > I have heard that some cell phones and radar detector units can
>> > trigger Service Indicators .... anyone heard of Security Gates
>> > causing the same???
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > Ed B.
>>
>>
>
>
>

The automotive electrical environment is one of the toughest around.Very
noisy from all those relays,solenoids,ignition noise,widely varying load
changes.I doubt the low level RF from a card reader or E-Pass system is
going to trigger such things.The normal spikes,surges and noise present
would be MUCH greater,so the control processors would have a large EMI
immunity designed in.

The OBDII system does record the fault codes.That should be a clue.

More likely that a connector problem or corroded/frayed/cut wire or
intermittent sensor is the source of the problem.Even a loose ground
somewhere.

It will be hard to duplicate this problem!
(or lots of trips to the airport!)

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

 

"Scott MacLean" <scottmNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in
news:0dhIb.5040$Vl6.1346947@news20.bellglobal.com:

> Just because things are "hard wired" doesn't mean they are necessarily
> immune to external RF or magnetic fields. The security gate he
> mentions transmits RF to activate the circuitry in the card. It is not
> outside the realm of possibility that the RF is also triggering a
> spurious signal in one of the on-board processors in his car, causing
> the problem he is describing.
>
> "CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message
> news:bcKdnSaCsK_XeHCiRVn-uw@comcast.com...
>> I have not heard of that. Everything in in your car is hardwired, I
>> believe, and shouldn't be prey to stray radio signals.
>>
>> Perhaps as you left the airport the time period between starting
>> your car and arriving at the gate was such that the car had warmed up
>> enough to go into the closed loop mode from the open loop mode. ( I
>> think I have those right) After going into the new mode it then takes
>> information from engine sensors for engine management, as opposed to
>> relying on the preprogrammed computer,
>> and as such there was a fault that triggered the light.
>>
>> CaptainKrunch
>>
>>
>>
>> "ECB" <avee8or@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:nrmruv8uab15d09fn9b4c4arfhq8fj78qd@4ax.com...
>> >
>> > Wondering if any one else has experience something similar
>> > to the following.
>> >
>> > On 12/22 I drove through the Security gate at the local airport
>> > (it's the type gate requiring a card to be placed against a reader
>> > to trigger the gate open). As I drove I noticed the Service
>> > Indicator light on my 2000 Honda CRV.
>> >
>> > I ended up paying more than $300 for the replacement of the O2
>> > Sensor unit.
>> >
>> > On 12/27 I drove to the airport again .... after exiting the
>> > airport through the security gate .... you guessed it ... the
>> > Service Indicator light came on.
>> >
>> > At this writing I am convincing the auto service establishment
>> > that the original O2 Sensor did not have to be replaced as the
>> > Service Indicator was false from the get-go.
>> >
>> > I have heard that some cell phones and radar detector units can
>> > trigger Service Indicators .... anyone heard of Security Gates
>> > causing the same???
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > Ed B.
>>
>>
>
>
>

The automotive electrical environment is one of the toughest around.Very
noisy from all those relays,solenoids,ignition noise,widely varying load
changes.I doubt the low level RF from a card reader or E-Pass system is
going to trigger such things.The normal spikes,surges and noise present
would be MUCH greater,so the control processors would have a large EMI
immunity designed in.

The OBDII system does record the fault codes.That should be a clue.

More likely that a connector problem or corroded/frayed/cut wire or
intermittent sensor is the source of the problem.Even a loose ground
somewhere.

It will be hard to duplicate this problem!
(or lots of trips to the airport!)

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

 

"Scott MacLean" <scottmNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in
news:0dhIb.5040$Vl6.1346947@news20.bellglobal.com:

> Just because things are "hard wired" doesn't mean they are necessarily
> immune to external RF or magnetic fields. The security gate he
> mentions transmits RF to activate the circuitry in the card. It is not
> outside the realm of possibility that the RF is also triggering a
> spurious signal in one of the on-board processors in his car, causing
> the problem he is describing.
>
> "CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message
> news:bcKdnSaCsK_XeHCiRVn-uw@comcast.com...
>> I have not heard of that. Everything in in your car is hardwired, I
>> believe, and shouldn't be prey to stray radio signals.
>>
>> Perhaps as you left the airport the time period between starting
>> your car and arriving at the gate was such that the car had warmed up
>> enough to go into the closed loop mode from the open loop mode. ( I
>> think I have those right) After going into the new mode it then takes
>> information from engine sensors for engine management, as opposed to
>> relying on the preprogrammed computer,
>> and as such there was a fault that triggered the light.
>>
>> CaptainKrunch
>>
>>
>>
>> "ECB" <avee8or@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:nrmruv8uab15d09fn9b4c4arfhq8fj78qd@4ax.com...
>> >
>> > Wondering if any one else has experience something similar
>> > to the following.
>> >
>> > On 12/22 I drove through the Security gate at the local airport
>> > (it's the type gate requiring a card to be placed against a reader
>> > to trigger the gate open). As I drove I noticed the Service
>> > Indicator light on my 2000 Honda CRV.
>> >
>> > I ended up paying more than $300 for the replacement of the O2
>> > Sensor unit.
>> >
>> > On 12/27 I drove to the airport again .... after exiting the
>> > airport through the security gate .... you guessed it ... the
>> > Service Indicator light came on.
>> >
>> > At this writing I am convincing the auto service establishment
>> > that the original O2 Sensor did not have to be replaced as the
>> > Service Indicator was false from the get-go.
>> >
>> > I have heard that some cell phones and radar detector units can
>> > trigger Service Indicators .... anyone heard of Security Gates
>> > causing the same???
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > Ed B.
>>
>>
>
>
>

The automotive electrical environment is one of the toughest around.Very
noisy from all those relays,solenoids,ignition noise,widely varying load
changes.I doubt the low level RF from a card reader or E-Pass system is
going to trigger such things.The normal spikes,surges and noise present
would be MUCH greater,so the control processors would have a large EMI
immunity designed in.

The OBDII system does record the fault codes.That should be a clue.

More likely that a connector problem or corroded/frayed/cut wire or
intermittent sensor is the source of the problem.Even a loose ground
somewhere.

It will be hard to duplicate this problem!
(or lots of trips to the airport!)

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

 

On 12/30/2003 12:55 PM Bill B. Johnson spake these words of knowledge:

> You should take your car immediately to a dealer. They are the only ones who
> are experienced enough to be able to deal with this problem.
>

OK, just once I'll bite. Bill, would you be willing to tell me (and by
extension 'us') what your motive is here? It doesn't make sense that
you are a shill for any particular dealer, as this is an international
group.

Are you trying to make people resent dealers, stir up controversy, get
these kind of replies, some combination, something I haven't thought of,
or are you simply ing stupid?

Inquiring minds want to know.


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.

 

On 12/30/2003 12:55 PM Bill B. Johnson spake these words of knowledge:

> You should take your car immediately to a dealer. They are the only ones who
> are experienced enough to be able to deal with this problem.
>

OK, just once I'll bite. Bill, would you be willing to tell me (and by
extension 'us') what your motive is here? It doesn't make sense that
you are a shill for any particular dealer, as this is an international
group.

Are you trying to make people resent dealers, stir up controversy, get
these kind of replies, some combination, something I haven't thought of,
or are you simply ing stupid?

Inquiring minds want to know.


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.

 

On 12/30/2003 12:55 PM Bill B. Johnson spake these words of knowledge:

> You should take your car immediately to a dealer. They are the only ones who
> are experienced enough to be able to deal with this problem.
>

OK, just once I'll bite. Bill, would you be willing to tell me (and by
extension 'us') what your motive is here? It doesn't make sense that
you are a shill for any particular dealer, as this is an international
group.

Are you trying to make people resent dealers, stir up controversy, get
these kind of replies, some combination, something I haven't thought of,
or are you simply ing stupid?

Inquiring minds want to know.


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.

 

On 12/30/2003 12:55 PM Bill B. Johnson spake these words of knowledge:

> You should take your car immediately to a dealer. They are the only ones who
> are experienced enough to be able to deal with this problem.
>

OK, just once I'll bite. Bill, would you be willing to tell me (and by
extension 'us') what your motive is here? It doesn't make sense that
you are a shill for any particular dealer, as this is an international
group.

Are you trying to make people resent dealers, stir up controversy, get
these kind of replies, some combination, something I haven't thought of,
or are you simply ing stupid?

Inquiring minds want to know.


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.

 

I decided to try going through the airport security gate a few more
times.....could not trigger the Check Engine light again ... until
this lunchtime. Bingo! Check Engine light appeared just as I
drove through the gate ... It cannot be just a coincidence that
this happened 3 times. Gotta be the electronics in the gate.
One other factor: there is an array of antennas nearby (about
75 feet away) that may contribute to or be the actual cause.

Ed B.

>
>Wondering if any one else has experience something similar
>to the following.
>
>On 12/22 I drove through the Security gate at the local airport
>(it's the type gate requiring a card to be placed against a reader
>to trigger the gate open). As I drove I noticed the Service Indicator
>light on my 2000 Honda CRV.
>
>I ended up paying more than $300 for the replacement of the O2
>Sensor unit.
>
>On 12/27 I drove to the airport again .... after exiting the airport
>through the security gate .... you guessed it ... the Service
>Indicator light came on.
>
>At this writing I am convincing the auto service establishment
>that the original O2 Sensor did not have to be replaced as the
>Service Indicator was false from the get-go.
>
>I have heard that some cell phones and radar detector units can
>trigger Service Indicators .... anyone heard of Security Gates
>causing the same???
>
>Thanks.
>
>Ed B.

 

I decided to try going through the airport security gate a few more
times.....could not trigger the Check Engine light again ... until
this lunchtime. Bingo! Check Engine light appeared just as I
drove through the gate ... It cannot be just a coincidence that
this happened 3 times. Gotta be the electronics in the gate.
One other factor: there is an array of antennas nearby (about
75 feet away) that may contribute to or be the actual cause.

Ed B.

>
>Wondering if any one else has experience something similar
>to the following.
>
>On 12/22 I drove through the Security gate at the local airport
>(it's the type gate requiring a card to be placed against a reader
>to trigger the gate open). As I drove I noticed the Service Indicator
>light on my 2000 Honda CRV.
>
>I ended up paying more than $300 for the replacement of the O2
>Sensor unit.
>
>On 12/27 I drove to the airport again .... after exiting the airport
>through the security gate .... you guessed it ... the Service
>Indicator light came on.
>
>At this writing I am convincing the auto service establishment
>that the original O2 Sensor did not have to be replaced as the
>Service Indicator was false from the get-go.
>
>I have heard that some cell phones and radar detector units can
>trigger Service Indicators .... anyone heard of Security Gates
>causing the same???
>
>Thanks.
>
>Ed B.

 

I decided to try going through the airport security gate a few more
times.....could not trigger the Check Engine light again ... until
this lunchtime. Bingo! Check Engine light appeared just as I
drove through the gate ... It cannot be just a coincidence that
this happened 3 times. Gotta be the electronics in the gate.
One other factor: there is an array of antennas nearby (about
75 feet away) that may contribute to or be the actual cause.

Ed B.

>
>Wondering if any one else has experience something similar
>to the following.
>
>On 12/22 I drove through the Security gate at the local airport
>(it's the type gate requiring a card to be placed against a reader
>to trigger the gate open). As I drove I noticed the Service Indicator
>light on my 2000 Honda CRV.
>
>I ended up paying more than $300 for the replacement of the O2
>Sensor unit.
>
>On 12/27 I drove to the airport again .... after exiting the airport
>through the security gate .... you guessed it ... the Service
>Indicator light came on.
>
>At this writing I am convincing the auto service establishment
>that the original O2 Sensor did not have to be replaced as the
>Service Indicator was false from the get-go.
>
>I have heard that some cell phones and radar detector units can
>trigger Service Indicators .... anyone heard of Security Gates
>causing the same???
>
>Thanks.
>
>Ed B.

 

I decided to try going through the airport security gate a few more
times.....could not trigger the Check Engine light again ... until
this lunchtime. Bingo! Check Engine light appeared just as I
drove through the gate ... It cannot be just a coincidence that
this happened 3 times. Gotta be the electronics in the gate.
One other factor: there is an array of antennas nearby (about
75 feet away) that may contribute to or be the actual cause.

Ed B.

>
>Wondering if any one else has experience something similar
>to the following.
>
>On 12/22 I drove through the Security gate at the local airport
>(it's the type gate requiring a card to be placed against a reader
>to trigger the gate open). As I drove I noticed the Service Indicator
>light on my 2000 Honda CRV.
>
>I ended up paying more than $300 for the replacement of the O2
>Sensor unit.
>
>On 12/27 I drove to the airport again .... after exiting the airport
>through the security gate .... you guessed it ... the Service
>Indicator light came on.
>
>At this writing I am convincing the auto service establishment
>that the original O2 Sensor did not have to be replaced as the
>Service Indicator was false from the get-go.
>
>I have heard that some cell phones and radar detector units can
>trigger Service Indicators .... anyone heard of Security Gates
>causing the same???
>
>Thanks.
>
>Ed B.

 

ECB wrote:
> I decided to try going through the airport security gate a few more
> times.....could not trigger the Check Engine light again ... until
> this lunchtime. Bingo! Check Engine light appeared just as I
> drove through the gate ... It cannot be just a coincidence that
> this happened 3 times. Gotta be the electronics in the gate.
> One other factor: there is an array of antennas nearby (about
> 75 feet away) that may contribute to or be the actual cause.
>
> Ed B.
>
>>
>> Wondering if any one else has experience something similar
>> to the following.
>>
>> On 12/22 I drove through the Security gate at the local airport
>> (it's the type gate requiring a card to be placed against a reader
>> to trigger the gate open). As I drove I noticed the Service
>> Indicator light on my 2000 Honda CRV.
>>
>> I ended up paying more than $300 for the replacement of the O2
>> Sensor unit.
>>
>> On 12/27 I drove to the airport again .... after exiting the airport
>> through the security gate .... you guessed it ... the Service
>> Indicator light came on.
>>
>> At this writing I am convincing the auto service establishment
>> that the original O2 Sensor did not have to be replaced as the
>> Service Indicator was false from the get-go.
>>
>> I have heard that some cell phones and radar detector units can
>> trigger Service Indicators .... anyone heard of Security Gates
>> causing the same???
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Ed B.

Are you the guy that was holding up traffic at the airport that kept going
thru the gate, backing up and going thru it over and over?