Element in snow
11-24-2003 | 02:52 PM
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Re: Element in snow
In article <ewswb.29908$Xw5.16381@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com> , "Steve"
<corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote:
> How does the Element do in the snow? I have driven the CRV and it is fine,
> but the Element seems so tall and wide.
>
> Thx,
> Steve
Don't buy the Element. Honda built is to compete with the Toyota Scion xB.
It's poorly designed and in my opinion would turn over if you took it too
fast around a sharp turn. The CR-V and Pilot are much better vehicles and
any intelligent engineer would agree with me.
<corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote:
> How does the Element do in the snow? I have driven the CRV and it is fine,
> but the Element seems so tall and wide.
>
> Thx,
> Steve
Don't buy the Element. Honda built is to compete with the Toyota Scion xB.
It's poorly designed and in my opinion would turn over if you took it too
fast around a sharp turn. The CR-V and Pilot are much better vehicles and
any intelligent engineer would agree with me.
11-24-2003 | 02:52 PM
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Re: Element in snow
In article <ewswb.29908$Xw5.16381@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com> , "Steve"
<corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote:
> How does the Element do in the snow? I have driven the CRV and it is fine,
> but the Element seems so tall and wide.
>
> Thx,
> Steve
Don't buy the Element. Honda built is to compete with the Toyota Scion xB.
It's poorly designed and in my opinion would turn over if you took it too
fast around a sharp turn. The CR-V and Pilot are much better vehicles and
any intelligent engineer would agree with me.
<corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote:
> How does the Element do in the snow? I have driven the CRV and it is fine,
> but the Element seems so tall and wide.
>
> Thx,
> Steve
Don't buy the Element. Honda built is to compete with the Toyota Scion xB.
It's poorly designed and in my opinion would turn over if you took it too
fast around a sharp turn. The CR-V and Pilot are much better vehicles and
any intelligent engineer would agree with me.
11-24-2003 | 02:52 PM
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Re: Element in snow
In article <ewswb.29908$Xw5.16381@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com> , "Steve"
<corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote:
> How does the Element do in the snow? I have driven the CRV and it is fine,
> but the Element seems so tall and wide.
>
> Thx,
> Steve
Don't buy the Element. Honda built is to compete with the Toyota Scion xB.
It's poorly designed and in my opinion would turn over if you took it too
fast around a sharp turn. The CR-V and Pilot are much better vehicles and
any intelligent engineer would agree with me.
<corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote:
> How does the Element do in the snow? I have driven the CRV and it is fine,
> but the Element seems so tall and wide.
>
> Thx,
> Steve
Don't buy the Element. Honda built is to compete with the Toyota Scion xB.
It's poorly designed and in my opinion would turn over if you took it too
fast around a sharp turn. The CR-V and Pilot are much better vehicles and
any intelligent engineer would agree with me.
11-24-2003 | 02:52 PM
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Re: Element in snow
In article <ewswb.29908$Xw5.16381@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com> , "Steve"
<corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote:
> How does the Element do in the snow? I have driven the CRV and it is fine,
> but the Element seems so tall and wide.
>
> Thx,
> Steve
Don't buy the Element. Honda built is to compete with the Toyota Scion xB.
It's poorly designed and in my opinion would turn over if you took it too
fast around a sharp turn. The CR-V and Pilot are much better vehicles and
any intelligent engineer would agree with me.
<corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote:
> How does the Element do in the snow? I have driven the CRV and it is fine,
> but the Element seems so tall and wide.
>
> Thx,
> Steve
Don't buy the Element. Honda built is to compete with the Toyota Scion xB.
It's poorly designed and in my opinion would turn over if you took it too
fast around a sharp turn. The CR-V and Pilot are much better vehicles and
any intelligent engineer would agree with me.
11-24-2003 | 04:22 PM
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Re: Element in snow
Thanks for the tip. I am looking at the Element only because I can get 2
people, 2 bikes, and 4 sets of skis INSIDE the vehicle. The only other AWD
vehicle that can do that are mini-vans. Why ... because I am lazy and
don't like hanging all my toys on the outside of the vehicle.
The Honda salesperson (female) showed me how to do tight turns at 20 mph ...
and how the ABS brakes work. I just want to make sure I buy the one she
DIDN'T drive because I don't plan on repeating those experiences.
I noticed the Element also got a poor rating on side impact collisions.
Finding a Element with side-impact air-bags has also been challenging.
In all seriousness ... thank again for the tip,
Steve
"Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:billbjohnson555-2411031152030001@pm1-broad-94.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <ewswb.29908$Xw5.16381@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com> , "Steve"
> <corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> > How does the Element do in the snow? I have driven the CRV and it is
fine,
> > but the Element seems so tall and wide.
> >
> > Thx,
> > Steve
>
> Don't buy the Element. Honda built is to compete with the Toyota Scion xB.
> It's poorly designed and in my opinion would turn over if you took it too
> fast around a sharp turn. The CR-V and Pilot are much better vehicles and
> any intelligent engineer would agree with me.
people, 2 bikes, and 4 sets of skis INSIDE the vehicle. The only other AWD
vehicle that can do that are mini-vans. Why ... because I am lazy and
don't like hanging all my toys on the outside of the vehicle.
The Honda salesperson (female) showed me how to do tight turns at 20 mph ...
and how the ABS brakes work. I just want to make sure I buy the one she
DIDN'T drive because I don't plan on repeating those experiences.
I noticed the Element also got a poor rating on side impact collisions.
Finding a Element with side-impact air-bags has also been challenging.
In all seriousness ... thank again for the tip,
Steve
"Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:billbjohnson555-2411031152030001@pm1-broad-94.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <ewswb.29908$Xw5.16381@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com> , "Steve"
> <corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> > How does the Element do in the snow? I have driven the CRV and it is
fine,
> > but the Element seems so tall and wide.
> >
> > Thx,
> > Steve
>
> Don't buy the Element. Honda built is to compete with the Toyota Scion xB.
> It's poorly designed and in my opinion would turn over if you took it too
> fast around a sharp turn. The CR-V and Pilot are much better vehicles and
> any intelligent engineer would agree with me.
11-24-2003 | 04:22 PM
#7
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Re: Element in snow
Thanks for the tip. I am looking at the Element only because I can get 2
people, 2 bikes, and 4 sets of skis INSIDE the vehicle. The only other AWD
vehicle that can do that are mini-vans. Why ... because I am lazy and
don't like hanging all my toys on the outside of the vehicle.
The Honda salesperson (female) showed me how to do tight turns at 20 mph ...
and how the ABS brakes work. I just want to make sure I buy the one she
DIDN'T drive because I don't plan on repeating those experiences.
I noticed the Element also got a poor rating on side impact collisions.
Finding a Element with side-impact air-bags has also been challenging.
In all seriousness ... thank again for the tip,
Steve
"Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:billbjohnson555-2411031152030001@pm1-broad-94.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <ewswb.29908$Xw5.16381@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com> , "Steve"
> <corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> > How does the Element do in the snow? I have driven the CRV and it is
fine,
> > but the Element seems so tall and wide.
> >
> > Thx,
> > Steve
>
> Don't buy the Element. Honda built is to compete with the Toyota Scion xB.
> It's poorly designed and in my opinion would turn over if you took it too
> fast around a sharp turn. The CR-V and Pilot are much better vehicles and
> any intelligent engineer would agree with me.
people, 2 bikes, and 4 sets of skis INSIDE the vehicle. The only other AWD
vehicle that can do that are mini-vans. Why ... because I am lazy and
don't like hanging all my toys on the outside of the vehicle.
The Honda salesperson (female) showed me how to do tight turns at 20 mph ...
and how the ABS brakes work. I just want to make sure I buy the one she
DIDN'T drive because I don't plan on repeating those experiences.
I noticed the Element also got a poor rating on side impact collisions.
Finding a Element with side-impact air-bags has also been challenging.
In all seriousness ... thank again for the tip,
Steve
"Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:billbjohnson555-2411031152030001@pm1-broad-94.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <ewswb.29908$Xw5.16381@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com> , "Steve"
> <corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> > How does the Element do in the snow? I have driven the CRV and it is
fine,
> > but the Element seems so tall and wide.
> >
> > Thx,
> > Steve
>
> Don't buy the Element. Honda built is to compete with the Toyota Scion xB.
> It's poorly designed and in my opinion would turn over if you took it too
> fast around a sharp turn. The CR-V and Pilot are much better vehicles and
> any intelligent engineer would agree with me.
11-24-2003 | 04:22 PM
#8
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Re: Element in snow
Thanks for the tip. I am looking at the Element only because I can get 2
people, 2 bikes, and 4 sets of skis INSIDE the vehicle. The only other AWD
vehicle that can do that are mini-vans. Why ... because I am lazy and
don't like hanging all my toys on the outside of the vehicle.
The Honda salesperson (female) showed me how to do tight turns at 20 mph ...
and how the ABS brakes work. I just want to make sure I buy the one she
DIDN'T drive because I don't plan on repeating those experiences.
I noticed the Element also got a poor rating on side impact collisions.
Finding a Element with side-impact air-bags has also been challenging.
In all seriousness ... thank again for the tip,
Steve
"Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:billbjohnson555-2411031152030001@pm1-broad-94.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <ewswb.29908$Xw5.16381@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com> , "Steve"
> <corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> > How does the Element do in the snow? I have driven the CRV and it is
fine,
> > but the Element seems so tall and wide.
> >
> > Thx,
> > Steve
>
> Don't buy the Element. Honda built is to compete with the Toyota Scion xB.
> It's poorly designed and in my opinion would turn over if you took it too
> fast around a sharp turn. The CR-V and Pilot are much better vehicles and
> any intelligent engineer would agree with me.
people, 2 bikes, and 4 sets of skis INSIDE the vehicle. The only other AWD
vehicle that can do that are mini-vans. Why ... because I am lazy and
don't like hanging all my toys on the outside of the vehicle.
The Honda salesperson (female) showed me how to do tight turns at 20 mph ...
and how the ABS brakes work. I just want to make sure I buy the one she
DIDN'T drive because I don't plan on repeating those experiences.
I noticed the Element also got a poor rating on side impact collisions.
Finding a Element with side-impact air-bags has also been challenging.
In all seriousness ... thank again for the tip,
Steve
"Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:billbjohnson555-2411031152030001@pm1-broad-94.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <ewswb.29908$Xw5.16381@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com> , "Steve"
> <corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> > How does the Element do in the snow? I have driven the CRV and it is
fine,
> > but the Element seems so tall and wide.
> >
> > Thx,
> > Steve
>
> Don't buy the Element. Honda built is to compete with the Toyota Scion xB.
> It's poorly designed and in my opinion would turn over if you took it too
> fast around a sharp turn. The CR-V and Pilot are much better vehicles and
> any intelligent engineer would agree with me.
11-24-2003 | 04:22 PM
#9
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Re: Element in snow
Thanks for the tip. I am looking at the Element only because I can get 2
people, 2 bikes, and 4 sets of skis INSIDE the vehicle. The only other AWD
vehicle that can do that are mini-vans. Why ... because I am lazy and
don't like hanging all my toys on the outside of the vehicle.
The Honda salesperson (female) showed me how to do tight turns at 20 mph ...
and how the ABS brakes work. I just want to make sure I buy the one she
DIDN'T drive because I don't plan on repeating those experiences.
I noticed the Element also got a poor rating on side impact collisions.
Finding a Element with side-impact air-bags has also been challenging.
In all seriousness ... thank again for the tip,
Steve
"Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:billbjohnson555-2411031152030001@pm1-broad-94.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <ewswb.29908$Xw5.16381@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com> , "Steve"
> <corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> > How does the Element do in the snow? I have driven the CRV and it is
fine,
> > but the Element seems so tall and wide.
> >
> > Thx,
> > Steve
>
> Don't buy the Element. Honda built is to compete with the Toyota Scion xB.
> It's poorly designed and in my opinion would turn over if you took it too
> fast around a sharp turn. The CR-V and Pilot are much better vehicles and
> any intelligent engineer would agree with me.
people, 2 bikes, and 4 sets of skis INSIDE the vehicle. The only other AWD
vehicle that can do that are mini-vans. Why ... because I am lazy and
don't like hanging all my toys on the outside of the vehicle.
The Honda salesperson (female) showed me how to do tight turns at 20 mph ...
and how the ABS brakes work. I just want to make sure I buy the one she
DIDN'T drive because I don't plan on repeating those experiences.
I noticed the Element also got a poor rating on side impact collisions.
Finding a Element with side-impact air-bags has also been challenging.
In all seriousness ... thank again for the tip,
Steve
"Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:billbjohnson555-2411031152030001@pm1-broad-94.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <ewswb.29908$Xw5.16381@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com> , "Steve"
> <corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> > How does the Element do in the snow? I have driven the CRV and it is
fine,
> > but the Element seems so tall and wide.
> >
> > Thx,
> > Steve
>
> Don't buy the Element. Honda built is to compete with the Toyota Scion xB.
> It's poorly designed and in my opinion would turn over if you took it too
> fast around a sharp turn. The CR-V and Pilot are much better vehicles and
> any intelligent engineer would agree with me.
11-24-2003 | 05:21 PM
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Re: Element in snow
We got to drive our Element this weekend in the snow 8+" Minnesota. It
handles fine! Actually felt as though there was more control than either our
Suzuki Vitara or my Trailblazer. Having been a SUV user for the last 20
years any of them will tip if driven to the extreme.....
Steve if you are serious about a balance of safety vs value saab and audi
both exceed at side impact. If you are looking for a decent balance
(trade-offs) of utility safety and value the element might work for you.
Botom line one can make a list of vehicles that have some fault or another
but I know of many many other cars on the road that I wouldnt get caught
in, The Element is not one of those.
"Steve" <corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:9Euwb.29924$RT5.8259@newssvr32.news.prodigy.c om...
> Thanks for the tip. I am looking at the Element only because I can get 2
> people, 2 bikes, and 4 sets of skis INSIDE the vehicle. The only other
AWD
> vehicle that can do that are mini-vans. Why ... because I am lazy and
> don't like hanging all my toys on the outside of the vehicle.
>
> The Honda salesperson (female) showed me how to do tight turns at 20 mph
....
> and how the ABS brakes work. I just want to make sure I buy the one she
> DIDN'T drive because I don't plan on repeating those experiences.
>
> I noticed the Element also got a poor rating on side impact collisions.
> Finding a Element with side-impact air-bags has also been challenging.
>
> In all seriousness ... thank again for the tip,
> Steve
>
>
>
>
> "Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:billbjohnson555-2411031152030001@pm1-broad-94.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> > In article <ewswb.29908$Xw5.16381@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com> , "Steve"
> > <corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote:
> >
> > > How does the Element do in the snow? I have driven the CRV and it is
> fine,
> > > but the Element seems so tall and wide.
> > >
> > > Thx,
> > > Steve
> >
> > Don't buy the Element. Honda built is to compete with the Toyota Scion
xB.
> > It's poorly designed and in my opinion would turn over if you took it
too
> > fast around a sharp turn. The CR-V and Pilot are much better vehicles
and
> > any intelligent engineer would agree with me.
>
>
handles fine! Actually felt as though there was more control than either our
Suzuki Vitara or my Trailblazer. Having been a SUV user for the last 20
years any of them will tip if driven to the extreme.....
Steve if you are serious about a balance of safety vs value saab and audi
both exceed at side impact. If you are looking for a decent balance
(trade-offs) of utility safety and value the element might work for you.
Botom line one can make a list of vehicles that have some fault or another
but I know of many many other cars on the road that I wouldnt get caught
in, The Element is not one of those.
"Steve" <corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:9Euwb.29924$RT5.8259@newssvr32.news.prodigy.c om...
> Thanks for the tip. I am looking at the Element only because I can get 2
> people, 2 bikes, and 4 sets of skis INSIDE the vehicle. The only other
AWD
> vehicle that can do that are mini-vans. Why ... because I am lazy and
> don't like hanging all my toys on the outside of the vehicle.
>
> The Honda salesperson (female) showed me how to do tight turns at 20 mph
....
> and how the ABS brakes work. I just want to make sure I buy the one she
> DIDN'T drive because I don't plan on repeating those experiences.
>
> I noticed the Element also got a poor rating on side impact collisions.
> Finding a Element with side-impact air-bags has also been challenging.
>
> In all seriousness ... thank again for the tip,
> Steve
>
>
>
>
> "Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:billbjohnson555-2411031152030001@pm1-broad-94.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> > In article <ewswb.29908$Xw5.16381@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com> , "Steve"
> > <corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote:
> >
> > > How does the Element do in the snow? I have driven the CRV and it is
> fine,
> > > but the Element seems so tall and wide.
> > >
> > > Thx,
> > > Steve
> >
> > Don't buy the Element. Honda built is to compete with the Toyota Scion
xB.
> > It's poorly designed and in my opinion would turn over if you took it
too
> > fast around a sharp turn. The CR-V and Pilot are much better vehicles
and
> > any intelligent engineer would agree with me.
>
>
11-24-2003 | 05:21 PM
#11
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Posts: n/a
Re: Element in snow
We got to drive our Element this weekend in the snow 8+" Minnesota. It
handles fine! Actually felt as though there was more control than either our
Suzuki Vitara or my Trailblazer. Having been a SUV user for the last 20
years any of them will tip if driven to the extreme.....
Steve if you are serious about a balance of safety vs value saab and audi
both exceed at side impact. If you are looking for a decent balance
(trade-offs) of utility safety and value the element might work for you.
Botom line one can make a list of vehicles that have some fault or another
but I know of many many other cars on the road that I wouldnt get caught
in, The Element is not one of those.
"Steve" <corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:9Euwb.29924$RT5.8259@newssvr32.news.prodigy.c om...
> Thanks for the tip. I am looking at the Element only because I can get 2
> people, 2 bikes, and 4 sets of skis INSIDE the vehicle. The only other
AWD
> vehicle that can do that are mini-vans. Why ... because I am lazy and
> don't like hanging all my toys on the outside of the vehicle.
>
> The Honda salesperson (female) showed me how to do tight turns at 20 mph
....
> and how the ABS brakes work. I just want to make sure I buy the one she
> DIDN'T drive because I don't plan on repeating those experiences.
>
> I noticed the Element also got a poor rating on side impact collisions.
> Finding a Element with side-impact air-bags has also been challenging.
>
> In all seriousness ... thank again for the tip,
> Steve
>
>
>
>
> "Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:billbjohnson555-2411031152030001@pm1-broad-94.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> > In article <ewswb.29908$Xw5.16381@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com> , "Steve"
> > <corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote:
> >
> > > How does the Element do in the snow? I have driven the CRV and it is
> fine,
> > > but the Element seems so tall and wide.
> > >
> > > Thx,
> > > Steve
> >
> > Don't buy the Element. Honda built is to compete with the Toyota Scion
xB.
> > It's poorly designed and in my opinion would turn over if you took it
too
> > fast around a sharp turn. The CR-V and Pilot are much better vehicles
and
> > any intelligent engineer would agree with me.
>
>
handles fine! Actually felt as though there was more control than either our
Suzuki Vitara or my Trailblazer. Having been a SUV user for the last 20
years any of them will tip if driven to the extreme.....
Steve if you are serious about a balance of safety vs value saab and audi
both exceed at side impact. If you are looking for a decent balance
(trade-offs) of utility safety and value the element might work for you.
Botom line one can make a list of vehicles that have some fault or another
but I know of many many other cars on the road that I wouldnt get caught
in, The Element is not one of those.
"Steve" <corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:9Euwb.29924$RT5.8259@newssvr32.news.prodigy.c om...
> Thanks for the tip. I am looking at the Element only because I can get 2
> people, 2 bikes, and 4 sets of skis INSIDE the vehicle. The only other
AWD
> vehicle that can do that are mini-vans. Why ... because I am lazy and
> don't like hanging all my toys on the outside of the vehicle.
>
> The Honda salesperson (female) showed me how to do tight turns at 20 mph
....
> and how the ABS brakes work. I just want to make sure I buy the one she
> DIDN'T drive because I don't plan on repeating those experiences.
>
> I noticed the Element also got a poor rating on side impact collisions.
> Finding a Element with side-impact air-bags has also been challenging.
>
> In all seriousness ... thank again for the tip,
> Steve
>
>
>
>
> "Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:billbjohnson555-2411031152030001@pm1-broad-94.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> > In article <ewswb.29908$Xw5.16381@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com> , "Steve"
> > <corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote:
> >
> > > How does the Element do in the snow? I have driven the CRV and it is
> fine,
> > > but the Element seems so tall and wide.
> > >
> > > Thx,
> > > Steve
> >
> > Don't buy the Element. Honda built is to compete with the Toyota Scion
xB.
> > It's poorly designed and in my opinion would turn over if you took it
too
> > fast around a sharp turn. The CR-V and Pilot are much better vehicles
and
> > any intelligent engineer would agree with me.
>
>
11-24-2003 | 05:21 PM
#12
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Element in snow
We got to drive our Element this weekend in the snow 8+" Minnesota. It
handles fine! Actually felt as though there was more control than either our
Suzuki Vitara or my Trailblazer. Having been a SUV user for the last 20
years any of them will tip if driven to the extreme.....
Steve if you are serious about a balance of safety vs value saab and audi
both exceed at side impact. If you are looking for a decent balance
(trade-offs) of utility safety and value the element might work for you.
Botom line one can make a list of vehicles that have some fault or another
but I know of many many other cars on the road that I wouldnt get caught
in, The Element is not one of those.
"Steve" <corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:9Euwb.29924$RT5.8259@newssvr32.news.prodigy.c om...
> Thanks for the tip. I am looking at the Element only because I can get 2
> people, 2 bikes, and 4 sets of skis INSIDE the vehicle. The only other
AWD
> vehicle that can do that are mini-vans. Why ... because I am lazy and
> don't like hanging all my toys on the outside of the vehicle.
>
> The Honda salesperson (female) showed me how to do tight turns at 20 mph
....
> and how the ABS brakes work. I just want to make sure I buy the one she
> DIDN'T drive because I don't plan on repeating those experiences.
>
> I noticed the Element also got a poor rating on side impact collisions.
> Finding a Element with side-impact air-bags has also been challenging.
>
> In all seriousness ... thank again for the tip,
> Steve
>
>
>
>
> "Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:billbjohnson555-2411031152030001@pm1-broad-94.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> > In article <ewswb.29908$Xw5.16381@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com> , "Steve"
> > <corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote:
> >
> > > How does the Element do in the snow? I have driven the CRV and it is
> fine,
> > > but the Element seems so tall and wide.
> > >
> > > Thx,
> > > Steve
> >
> > Don't buy the Element. Honda built is to compete with the Toyota Scion
xB.
> > It's poorly designed and in my opinion would turn over if you took it
too
> > fast around a sharp turn. The CR-V and Pilot are much better vehicles
and
> > any intelligent engineer would agree with me.
>
>
handles fine! Actually felt as though there was more control than either our
Suzuki Vitara or my Trailblazer. Having been a SUV user for the last 20
years any of them will tip if driven to the extreme.....
Steve if you are serious about a balance of safety vs value saab and audi
both exceed at side impact. If you are looking for a decent balance
(trade-offs) of utility safety and value the element might work for you.
Botom line one can make a list of vehicles that have some fault or another
but I know of many many other cars on the road that I wouldnt get caught
in, The Element is not one of those.
"Steve" <corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:9Euwb.29924$RT5.8259@newssvr32.news.prodigy.c om...
> Thanks for the tip. I am looking at the Element only because I can get 2
> people, 2 bikes, and 4 sets of skis INSIDE the vehicle. The only other
AWD
> vehicle that can do that are mini-vans. Why ... because I am lazy and
> don't like hanging all my toys on the outside of the vehicle.
>
> The Honda salesperson (female) showed me how to do tight turns at 20 mph
....
> and how the ABS brakes work. I just want to make sure I buy the one she
> DIDN'T drive because I don't plan on repeating those experiences.
>
> I noticed the Element also got a poor rating on side impact collisions.
> Finding a Element with side-impact air-bags has also been challenging.
>
> In all seriousness ... thank again for the tip,
> Steve
>
>
>
>
> "Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:billbjohnson555-2411031152030001@pm1-broad-94.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> > In article <ewswb.29908$Xw5.16381@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com> , "Steve"
> > <corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote:
> >
> > > How does the Element do in the snow? I have driven the CRV and it is
> fine,
> > > but the Element seems so tall and wide.
> > >
> > > Thx,
> > > Steve
> >
> > Don't buy the Element. Honda built is to compete with the Toyota Scion
xB.
> > It's poorly designed and in my opinion would turn over if you took it
too
> > fast around a sharp turn. The CR-V and Pilot are much better vehicles
and
> > any intelligent engineer would agree with me.
>
>
11-24-2003 | 05:21 PM
#13
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Element in snow
We got to drive our Element this weekend in the snow 8+" Minnesota. It
handles fine! Actually felt as though there was more control than either our
Suzuki Vitara or my Trailblazer. Having been a SUV user for the last 20
years any of them will tip if driven to the extreme.....
Steve if you are serious about a balance of safety vs value saab and audi
both exceed at side impact. If you are looking for a decent balance
(trade-offs) of utility safety and value the element might work for you.
Botom line one can make a list of vehicles that have some fault or another
but I know of many many other cars on the road that I wouldnt get caught
in, The Element is not one of those.
"Steve" <corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:9Euwb.29924$RT5.8259@newssvr32.news.prodigy.c om...
> Thanks for the tip. I am looking at the Element only because I can get 2
> people, 2 bikes, and 4 sets of skis INSIDE the vehicle. The only other
AWD
> vehicle that can do that are mini-vans. Why ... because I am lazy and
> don't like hanging all my toys on the outside of the vehicle.
>
> The Honda salesperson (female) showed me how to do tight turns at 20 mph
....
> and how the ABS brakes work. I just want to make sure I buy the one she
> DIDN'T drive because I don't plan on repeating those experiences.
>
> I noticed the Element also got a poor rating on side impact collisions.
> Finding a Element with side-impact air-bags has also been challenging.
>
> In all seriousness ... thank again for the tip,
> Steve
>
>
>
>
> "Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:billbjohnson555-2411031152030001@pm1-broad-94.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> > In article <ewswb.29908$Xw5.16381@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com> , "Steve"
> > <corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote:
> >
> > > How does the Element do in the snow? I have driven the CRV and it is
> fine,
> > > but the Element seems so tall and wide.
> > >
> > > Thx,
> > > Steve
> >
> > Don't buy the Element. Honda built is to compete with the Toyota Scion
xB.
> > It's poorly designed and in my opinion would turn over if you took it
too
> > fast around a sharp turn. The CR-V and Pilot are much better vehicles
and
> > any intelligent engineer would agree with me.
>
>
handles fine! Actually felt as though there was more control than either our
Suzuki Vitara or my Trailblazer. Having been a SUV user for the last 20
years any of them will tip if driven to the extreme.....
Steve if you are serious about a balance of safety vs value saab and audi
both exceed at side impact. If you are looking for a decent balance
(trade-offs) of utility safety and value the element might work for you.
Botom line one can make a list of vehicles that have some fault or another
but I know of many many other cars on the road that I wouldnt get caught
in, The Element is not one of those.
"Steve" <corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:9Euwb.29924$RT5.8259@newssvr32.news.prodigy.c om...
> Thanks for the tip. I am looking at the Element only because I can get 2
> people, 2 bikes, and 4 sets of skis INSIDE the vehicle. The only other
AWD
> vehicle that can do that are mini-vans. Why ... because I am lazy and
> don't like hanging all my toys on the outside of the vehicle.
>
> The Honda salesperson (female) showed me how to do tight turns at 20 mph
....
> and how the ABS brakes work. I just want to make sure I buy the one she
> DIDN'T drive because I don't plan on repeating those experiences.
>
> I noticed the Element also got a poor rating on side impact collisions.
> Finding a Element with side-impact air-bags has also been challenging.
>
> In all seriousness ... thank again for the tip,
> Steve
>
>
>
>
> "Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:billbjohnson555-2411031152030001@pm1-broad-94.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> > In article <ewswb.29908$Xw5.16381@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com> , "Steve"
> > <corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote:
> >
> > > How does the Element do in the snow? I have driven the CRV and it is
> fine,
> > > but the Element seems so tall and wide.
> > >
> > > Thx,
> > > Steve
> >
> > Don't buy the Element. Honda built is to compete with the Toyota Scion
xB.
> > It's poorly designed and in my opinion would turn over if you took it
too
> > fast around a sharp turn. The CR-V and Pilot are much better vehicles
and
> > any intelligent engineer would agree with me.
>
>
11-24-2003 | 08:20 PM
#14
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Element in snow
You have the TWD or 4WD?
riverrat wrote:
> We got to drive our Element this weekend in the snow 8+" Minnesota. It
> handles fine! Actually felt as though there was more control than either our
> Suzuki Vitara or my Trailblazer. Having been a SUV user for the last 20
> years any of them will tip if driven to the extreme.....
riverrat wrote:
> We got to drive our Element this weekend in the snow 8+" Minnesota. It
> handles fine! Actually felt as though there was more control than either our
> Suzuki Vitara or my Trailblazer. Having been a SUV user for the last 20
> years any of them will tip if driven to the extreme.....
11-24-2003 | 08:20 PM
#15
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Element in snow
You have the TWD or 4WD?
riverrat wrote:
> We got to drive our Element this weekend in the snow 8+" Minnesota. It
> handles fine! Actually felt as though there was more control than either our
> Suzuki Vitara or my Trailblazer. Having been a SUV user for the last 20
> years any of them will tip if driven to the extreme.....
riverrat wrote:
> We got to drive our Element this weekend in the snow 8+" Minnesota. It
> handles fine! Actually felt as though there was more control than either our
> Suzuki Vitara or my Trailblazer. Having been a SUV user for the last 20
> years any of them will tip if driven to the extreme.....