Driving without adequate ATF.
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Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
In rec.autos.makers.honda Steve <no@spam.thanks> wrote:
> dold@DrivingXwi.usenet.us.com wrote:
>> Then they had to get authorization to
>> buy a dealer-only part... 2000 Dodge Durango 4WD must be rare.
> What engine? 4.7L? If its a 4.7L then it might have been remotely
> possible that they were telling the truth as that is a "new" (well, 5
2000 was the first year for the 4.7. But the tranny job was in 2002 or
2003... I would think there would have been some demand by then. The
recommendation is every 30,000 miles. I had a second one done recently by
the local tire shop, and they couldn't locate the filter either. They
wound up changing the fluid twice because they had already drained before
they found out they didn't have the filter...
Odd way to work. I always make sure I have the parts before I start.
I also take the filler plug out before the drain plug, ever since my 1967
Datsun Roadster was shipped with an iron plug in an aluminum case... The
dealer puts the fluid in through the backup light switch, because the fill
plug is impossible to remove.
> made... forget it and enjoy the car.
I had almost forgotten until this second go 'round. I almost bough the
filter at a Dodge dealer in the big city before I took it in to the local
shop, expecting that they would have trouble. Next time, I will.
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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5
> dold@DrivingXwi.usenet.us.com wrote:
>> Then they had to get authorization to
>> buy a dealer-only part... 2000 Dodge Durango 4WD must be rare.
> What engine? 4.7L? If its a 4.7L then it might have been remotely
> possible that they were telling the truth as that is a "new" (well, 5
2000 was the first year for the 4.7. But the tranny job was in 2002 or
2003... I would think there would have been some demand by then. The
recommendation is every 30,000 miles. I had a second one done recently by
the local tire shop, and they couldn't locate the filter either. They
wound up changing the fluid twice because they had already drained before
they found out they didn't have the filter...
Odd way to work. I always make sure I have the parts before I start.
I also take the filler plug out before the drain plug, ever since my 1967
Datsun Roadster was shipped with an iron plug in an aluminum case... The
dealer puts the fluid in through the backup light switch, because the fill
plug is impossible to remove.
> made... forget it and enjoy the car.
I had almost forgotten until this second go 'round. I almost bough the
filter at a Dodge dealer in the big city before I took it in to the local
shop, expecting that they would have trouble. Next time, I will.
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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5
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Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
In rec.autos.makers.honda Steve <no@spam.thanks> wrote:
> dold@DrivingXwi.usenet.us.com wrote:
>> Then they had to get authorization to
>> buy a dealer-only part... 2000 Dodge Durango 4WD must be rare.
> What engine? 4.7L? If its a 4.7L then it might have been remotely
> possible that they were telling the truth as that is a "new" (well, 5
2000 was the first year for the 4.7. But the tranny job was in 2002 or
2003... I would think there would have been some demand by then. The
recommendation is every 30,000 miles. I had a second one done recently by
the local tire shop, and they couldn't locate the filter either. They
wound up changing the fluid twice because they had already drained before
they found out they didn't have the filter...
Odd way to work. I always make sure I have the parts before I start.
I also take the filler plug out before the drain plug, ever since my 1967
Datsun Roadster was shipped with an iron plug in an aluminum case... The
dealer puts the fluid in through the backup light switch, because the fill
plug is impossible to remove.
> made... forget it and enjoy the car.
I had almost forgotten until this second go 'round. I almost bough the
filter at a Dodge dealer in the big city before I took it in to the local
shop, expecting that they would have trouble. Next time, I will.
--
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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5
> dold@DrivingXwi.usenet.us.com wrote:
>> Then they had to get authorization to
>> buy a dealer-only part... 2000 Dodge Durango 4WD must be rare.
> What engine? 4.7L? If its a 4.7L then it might have been remotely
> possible that they were telling the truth as that is a "new" (well, 5
2000 was the first year for the 4.7. But the tranny job was in 2002 or
2003... I would think there would have been some demand by then. The
recommendation is every 30,000 miles. I had a second one done recently by
the local tire shop, and they couldn't locate the filter either. They
wound up changing the fluid twice because they had already drained before
they found out they didn't have the filter...
Odd way to work. I always make sure I have the parts before I start.
I also take the filler plug out before the drain plug, ever since my 1967
Datsun Roadster was shipped with an iron plug in an aluminum case... The
dealer puts the fluid in through the backup light switch, because the fill
plug is impossible to remove.
> made... forget it and enjoy the car.
I had almost forgotten until this second go 'round. I almost bough the
filter at a Dodge dealer in the big city before I took it in to the local
shop, expecting that they would have trouble. Next time, I will.
--
---
Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5
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Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
In rec.autos.makers.honda Steve <no@spam.thanks> wrote:
> dold@DrivingXwi.usenet.us.com wrote:
>> Then they had to get authorization to
>> buy a dealer-only part... 2000 Dodge Durango 4WD must be rare.
> What engine? 4.7L? If its a 4.7L then it might have been remotely
> possible that they were telling the truth as that is a "new" (well, 5
2000 was the first year for the 4.7. But the tranny job was in 2002 or
2003... I would think there would have been some demand by then. The
recommendation is every 30,000 miles. I had a second one done recently by
the local tire shop, and they couldn't locate the filter either. They
wound up changing the fluid twice because they had already drained before
they found out they didn't have the filter...
Odd way to work. I always make sure I have the parts before I start.
I also take the filler plug out before the drain plug, ever since my 1967
Datsun Roadster was shipped with an iron plug in an aluminum case... The
dealer puts the fluid in through the backup light switch, because the fill
plug is impossible to remove.
> made... forget it and enjoy the car.
I had almost forgotten until this second go 'round. I almost bough the
filter at a Dodge dealer in the big city before I took it in to the local
shop, expecting that they would have trouble. Next time, I will.
--
---
Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5
> dold@DrivingXwi.usenet.us.com wrote:
>> Then they had to get authorization to
>> buy a dealer-only part... 2000 Dodge Durango 4WD must be rare.
> What engine? 4.7L? If its a 4.7L then it might have been remotely
> possible that they were telling the truth as that is a "new" (well, 5
2000 was the first year for the 4.7. But the tranny job was in 2002 or
2003... I would think there would have been some demand by then. The
recommendation is every 30,000 miles. I had a second one done recently by
the local tire shop, and they couldn't locate the filter either. They
wound up changing the fluid twice because they had already drained before
they found out they didn't have the filter...
Odd way to work. I always make sure I have the parts before I start.
I also take the filler plug out before the drain plug, ever since my 1967
Datsun Roadster was shipped with an iron plug in an aluminum case... The
dealer puts the fluid in through the backup light switch, because the fill
plug is impossible to remove.
> made... forget it and enjoy the car.
I had almost forgotten until this second go 'round. I almost bough the
filter at a Dodge dealer in the big city before I took it in to the local
shop, expecting that they would have trouble. Next time, I will.
--
---
Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5
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Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
In article <c0jftg$47o$2@blue.rahul.net>,
<dold@DrivingXwi.usenet.us.com> wrote:
>2000 was the first year for the 4.7. But the tranny job was in 2002 or
>2003... I would think there would have been some demand by then. The
>recommendation is every 30,000 miles.
Wouldn't that mean that 2000 model year trucks reaching 30000
miles in 2002 are among the first ones needing that service?
>I had a second one done recently by
>the local tire shop, and they couldn't locate the filter either.
Why not take the Dodge truck to a Chrysler / Dodge specialist
mechanic (dealer or otherwise, depending on which one locally
is the best)?
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<dold@DrivingXwi.usenet.us.com> wrote:
>2000 was the first year for the 4.7. But the tranny job was in 2002 or
>2003... I would think there would have been some demand by then. The
>recommendation is every 30,000 miles.
Wouldn't that mean that 2000 model year trucks reaching 30000
miles in 2002 are among the first ones needing that service?
>I had a second one done recently by
>the local tire shop, and they couldn't locate the filter either.
Why not take the Dodge truck to a Chrysler / Dodge specialist
mechanic (dealer or otherwise, depending on which one locally
is the best)?
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Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
In article <c0jftg$47o$2@blue.rahul.net>,
<dold@DrivingXwi.usenet.us.com> wrote:
>2000 was the first year for the 4.7. But the tranny job was in 2002 or
>2003... I would think there would have been some demand by then. The
>recommendation is every 30,000 miles.
Wouldn't that mean that 2000 model year trucks reaching 30000
miles in 2002 are among the first ones needing that service?
>I had a second one done recently by
>the local tire shop, and they couldn't locate the filter either.
Why not take the Dodge truck to a Chrysler / Dodge specialist
mechanic (dealer or otherwise, depending on which one locally
is the best)?
--
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Timothy J. Lee
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No warranty of any kind is provided with this message.
<dold@DrivingXwi.usenet.us.com> wrote:
>2000 was the first year for the 4.7. But the tranny job was in 2002 or
>2003... I would think there would have been some demand by then. The
>recommendation is every 30,000 miles.
Wouldn't that mean that 2000 model year trucks reaching 30000
miles in 2002 are among the first ones needing that service?
>I had a second one done recently by
>the local tire shop, and they couldn't locate the filter either.
Why not take the Dodge truck to a Chrysler / Dodge specialist
mechanic (dealer or otherwise, depending on which one locally
is the best)?
--
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Timothy J. Lee
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Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
In article <c0jftg$47o$2@blue.rahul.net>,
<dold@DrivingXwi.usenet.us.com> wrote:
>2000 was the first year for the 4.7. But the tranny job was in 2002 or
>2003... I would think there would have been some demand by then. The
>recommendation is every 30,000 miles.
Wouldn't that mean that 2000 model year trucks reaching 30000
miles in 2002 are among the first ones needing that service?
>I had a second one done recently by
>the local tire shop, and they couldn't locate the filter either.
Why not take the Dodge truck to a Chrysler / Dodge specialist
mechanic (dealer or otherwise, depending on which one locally
is the best)?
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Timothy J. Lee
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No warranty of any kind is provided with this message.
<dold@DrivingXwi.usenet.us.com> wrote:
>2000 was the first year for the 4.7. But the tranny job was in 2002 or
>2003... I would think there would have been some demand by then. The
>recommendation is every 30,000 miles.
Wouldn't that mean that 2000 model year trucks reaching 30000
miles in 2002 are among the first ones needing that service?
>I had a second one done recently by
>the local tire shop, and they couldn't locate the filter either.
Why not take the Dodge truck to a Chrysler / Dodge specialist
mechanic (dealer or otherwise, depending on which one locally
is the best)?
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Timothy J. Lee
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Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
Sometimes its difficult to know what transmission filter goes on what car. I
just replaced the filter on my 97 E150 and it was completely different than the
replacement I bought. An older Autozone worker discovered that I had a 96
transmission on my 97 vehicle, and explained that oftentimes the first cars
made in a new year are really last years model!! So it's possible for an
honest mistake.
Greg
just replaced the filter on my 97 E150 and it was completely different than the
replacement I bought. An older Autozone worker discovered that I had a 96
transmission on my 97 vehicle, and explained that oftentimes the first cars
made in a new year are really last years model!! So it's possible for an
honest mistake.
Greg
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Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
Sometimes its difficult to know what transmission filter goes on what car. I
just replaced the filter on my 97 E150 and it was completely different than the
replacement I bought. An older Autozone worker discovered that I had a 96
transmission on my 97 vehicle, and explained that oftentimes the first cars
made in a new year are really last years model!! So it's possible for an
honest mistake.
Greg
just replaced the filter on my 97 E150 and it was completely different than the
replacement I bought. An older Autozone worker discovered that I had a 96
transmission on my 97 vehicle, and explained that oftentimes the first cars
made in a new year are really last years model!! So it's possible for an
honest mistake.
Greg
#39
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Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
Sometimes its difficult to know what transmission filter goes on what car. I
just replaced the filter on my 97 E150 and it was completely different than the
replacement I bought. An older Autozone worker discovered that I had a 96
transmission on my 97 vehicle, and explained that oftentimes the first cars
made in a new year are really last years model!! So it's possible for an
honest mistake.
Greg
just replaced the filter on my 97 E150 and it was completely different than the
replacement I bought. An older Autozone worker discovered that I had a 96
transmission on my 97 vehicle, and explained that oftentimes the first cars
made in a new year are really last years model!! So it's possible for an
honest mistake.
Greg
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Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
our local news station did a hidden camera investigation on 'convenience
lube' places, juffy lube included, and caught the staff at several
chains deliberately 'creating' problems for customers that their cars in
fact didn't need at all. the camera crew recorded the mechanics doing
things like keeping bogus containers of fluids -long gone bad- in the
back of the shop, and surreptitiously dipping the ATF dipstick in that
instead of the customer's actual car engine, and coming out to show them
the dirty fluid on the stick and solicitously emoting how 'we'll fix you
right up, good thing we caught this" and then completely replacing their
entire volume of ATF when in fact the car didn't need ANY. this is how
the crooked places make their money. a person who maintains their car
conscientiously and well won't make them any money!! everything is clean
and in good repair!! so they 'invent' some trouble to run up the price.
i swear, your tale sounds like jiffy lube ran you around and then
tripped themselves up into thir own nightmare.
BTW- the managers and bosses are in on it.
the only such chain they found was trustworty was Econo-lube. they did
only what was needed, they showed the customer each honest step, and
charged only what the car needed. if it needed nothing, they told you
so.
everyone else was doing this ripoff of 'finding' problems and inflating
the bill and taking up your time.
one of the funniest was seeing the crew drive a brand new car with
'virgin' fluids into an EZ lube, and recording the mechanic, opening the
various chambers and clucking and presenting them with dirty dipsticks
of each of the various fluids.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and then the guy lied about it, when confronted!!!!!!!!!!
unbeleivable.
econo lube. nobody else. at least in los angeles.
lube' places, juffy lube included, and caught the staff at several
chains deliberately 'creating' problems for customers that their cars in
fact didn't need at all. the camera crew recorded the mechanics doing
things like keeping bogus containers of fluids -long gone bad- in the
back of the shop, and surreptitiously dipping the ATF dipstick in that
instead of the customer's actual car engine, and coming out to show them
the dirty fluid on the stick and solicitously emoting how 'we'll fix you
right up, good thing we caught this" and then completely replacing their
entire volume of ATF when in fact the car didn't need ANY. this is how
the crooked places make their money. a person who maintains their car
conscientiously and well won't make them any money!! everything is clean
and in good repair!! so they 'invent' some trouble to run up the price.
i swear, your tale sounds like jiffy lube ran you around and then
tripped themselves up into thir own nightmare.
BTW- the managers and bosses are in on it.
the only such chain they found was trustworty was Econo-lube. they did
only what was needed, they showed the customer each honest step, and
charged only what the car needed. if it needed nothing, they told you
so.
everyone else was doing this ripoff of 'finding' problems and inflating
the bill and taking up your time.
one of the funniest was seeing the crew drive a brand new car with
'virgin' fluids into an EZ lube, and recording the mechanic, opening the
various chambers and clucking and presenting them with dirty dipsticks
of each of the various fluids.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and then the guy lied about it, when confronted!!!!!!!!!!
unbeleivable.
econo lube. nobody else. at least in los angeles.
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Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
our local news station did a hidden camera investigation on 'convenience
lube' places, juffy lube included, and caught the staff at several
chains deliberately 'creating' problems for customers that their cars in
fact didn't need at all. the camera crew recorded the mechanics doing
things like keeping bogus containers of fluids -long gone bad- in the
back of the shop, and surreptitiously dipping the ATF dipstick in that
instead of the customer's actual car engine, and coming out to show them
the dirty fluid on the stick and solicitously emoting how 'we'll fix you
right up, good thing we caught this" and then completely replacing their
entire volume of ATF when in fact the car didn't need ANY. this is how
the crooked places make their money. a person who maintains their car
conscientiously and well won't make them any money!! everything is clean
and in good repair!! so they 'invent' some trouble to run up the price.
i swear, your tale sounds like jiffy lube ran you around and then
tripped themselves up into thir own nightmare.
BTW- the managers and bosses are in on it.
the only such chain they found was trustworty was Econo-lube. they did
only what was needed, they showed the customer each honest step, and
charged only what the car needed. if it needed nothing, they told you
so.
everyone else was doing this ripoff of 'finding' problems and inflating
the bill and taking up your time.
one of the funniest was seeing the crew drive a brand new car with
'virgin' fluids into an EZ lube, and recording the mechanic, opening the
various chambers and clucking and presenting them with dirty dipsticks
of each of the various fluids.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and then the guy lied about it, when confronted!!!!!!!!!!
unbeleivable.
econo lube. nobody else. at least in los angeles.
lube' places, juffy lube included, and caught the staff at several
chains deliberately 'creating' problems for customers that their cars in
fact didn't need at all. the camera crew recorded the mechanics doing
things like keeping bogus containers of fluids -long gone bad- in the
back of the shop, and surreptitiously dipping the ATF dipstick in that
instead of the customer's actual car engine, and coming out to show them
the dirty fluid on the stick and solicitously emoting how 'we'll fix you
right up, good thing we caught this" and then completely replacing their
entire volume of ATF when in fact the car didn't need ANY. this is how
the crooked places make their money. a person who maintains their car
conscientiously and well won't make them any money!! everything is clean
and in good repair!! so they 'invent' some trouble to run up the price.
i swear, your tale sounds like jiffy lube ran you around and then
tripped themselves up into thir own nightmare.
BTW- the managers and bosses are in on it.
the only such chain they found was trustworty was Econo-lube. they did
only what was needed, they showed the customer each honest step, and
charged only what the car needed. if it needed nothing, they told you
so.
everyone else was doing this ripoff of 'finding' problems and inflating
the bill and taking up your time.
one of the funniest was seeing the crew drive a brand new car with
'virgin' fluids into an EZ lube, and recording the mechanic, opening the
various chambers and clucking and presenting them with dirty dipsticks
of each of the various fluids.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and then the guy lied about it, when confronted!!!!!!!!!!
unbeleivable.
econo lube. nobody else. at least in los angeles.
#42
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Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
our local news station did a hidden camera investigation on 'convenience
lube' places, juffy lube included, and caught the staff at several
chains deliberately 'creating' problems for customers that their cars in
fact didn't need at all. the camera crew recorded the mechanics doing
things like keeping bogus containers of fluids -long gone bad- in the
back of the shop, and surreptitiously dipping the ATF dipstick in that
instead of the customer's actual car engine, and coming out to show them
the dirty fluid on the stick and solicitously emoting how 'we'll fix you
right up, good thing we caught this" and then completely replacing their
entire volume of ATF when in fact the car didn't need ANY. this is how
the crooked places make their money. a person who maintains their car
conscientiously and well won't make them any money!! everything is clean
and in good repair!! so they 'invent' some trouble to run up the price.
i swear, your tale sounds like jiffy lube ran you around and then
tripped themselves up into thir own nightmare.
BTW- the managers and bosses are in on it.
the only such chain they found was trustworty was Econo-lube. they did
only what was needed, they showed the customer each honest step, and
charged only what the car needed. if it needed nothing, they told you
so.
everyone else was doing this ripoff of 'finding' problems and inflating
the bill and taking up your time.
one of the funniest was seeing the crew drive a brand new car with
'virgin' fluids into an EZ lube, and recording the mechanic, opening the
various chambers and clucking and presenting them with dirty dipsticks
of each of the various fluids.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and then the guy lied about it, when confronted!!!!!!!!!!
unbeleivable.
econo lube. nobody else. at least in los angeles.
lube' places, juffy lube included, and caught the staff at several
chains deliberately 'creating' problems for customers that their cars in
fact didn't need at all. the camera crew recorded the mechanics doing
things like keeping bogus containers of fluids -long gone bad- in the
back of the shop, and surreptitiously dipping the ATF dipstick in that
instead of the customer's actual car engine, and coming out to show them
the dirty fluid on the stick and solicitously emoting how 'we'll fix you
right up, good thing we caught this" and then completely replacing their
entire volume of ATF when in fact the car didn't need ANY. this is how
the crooked places make their money. a person who maintains their car
conscientiously and well won't make them any money!! everything is clean
and in good repair!! so they 'invent' some trouble to run up the price.
i swear, your tale sounds like jiffy lube ran you around and then
tripped themselves up into thir own nightmare.
BTW- the managers and bosses are in on it.
the only such chain they found was trustworty was Econo-lube. they did
only what was needed, they showed the customer each honest step, and
charged only what the car needed. if it needed nothing, they told you
so.
everyone else was doing this ripoff of 'finding' problems and inflating
the bill and taking up your time.
one of the funniest was seeing the crew drive a brand new car with
'virgin' fluids into an EZ lube, and recording the mechanic, opening the
various chambers and clucking and presenting them with dirty dipsticks
of each of the various fluids.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and then the guy lied about it, when confronted!!!!!!!!!!
unbeleivable.
econo lube. nobody else. at least in los angeles.
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