Driveing in the fast lane
10-19-2003 | 09:13 PM
#16
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Re: Driveing in the fast lane
> There is absolutely nothing wrong with going below the speed limit in the
> passing lane if you are actually passing somebody. With reference to the
> passing lane hoggers, speed is really irrelavent. Fast or slow, they
either
> have a reason to be there (passing someone) or they don't (not passing
> anybody, nobody in the right lane near them, no potential cars merging on
> highway, no left-turns coming up on the highway).
Agreed, as long as they're passing someone or not creating a backup in
traffic or if they have a reason to be there such as an upcoming turn. I
only have a problem when the person is creating an unnecessary back-up in
traffic and have a line of cars passing to the right of them.
> I almost always set my cruise control at 5 MPH below the MAX speed limit
> (the speed limit is a maximum rating, not a minimum). It is amazing how
> relaxing a drive can be at this speed. I very rarely have to turn my
cruise
> off even in midly heavy traffic because 99% of the cars are passing me.
Yes it is the maximum legal rating, but having 99% of the cars are passsing
you? I would venture to say it is safer to go with the flow of traffic
rather than going faster or slower than traffic. I only hope you're not in
the *passing* lane!
-Dave
> passing lane if you are actually passing somebody. With reference to the
> passing lane hoggers, speed is really irrelavent. Fast or slow, they
either
> have a reason to be there (passing someone) or they don't (not passing
> anybody, nobody in the right lane near them, no potential cars merging on
> highway, no left-turns coming up on the highway).
Agreed, as long as they're passing someone or not creating a backup in
traffic or if they have a reason to be there such as an upcoming turn. I
only have a problem when the person is creating an unnecessary back-up in
traffic and have a line of cars passing to the right of them.
> I almost always set my cruise control at 5 MPH below the MAX speed limit
> (the speed limit is a maximum rating, not a minimum). It is amazing how
> relaxing a drive can be at this speed. I very rarely have to turn my
cruise
> off even in midly heavy traffic because 99% of the cars are passing me.
Yes it is the maximum legal rating, but having 99% of the cars are passsing
you? I would venture to say it is safer to go with the flow of traffic
rather than going faster or slower than traffic. I only hope you're not in
the *passing* lane!
-Dave
10-19-2003 | 10:30 PM
#17
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Re: Driveing in the fast lane
> > There is absolutely nothing wrong with going below the speed limit in
the
> > passing lane if you are actually passing somebody. With reference to
the
> > passing lane hoggers, speed is really irrelavent. Fast or slow, they
> either
> > have a reason to be there (passing someone) or they don't (not passing
> > anybody, nobody in the right lane near them, no potential cars merging
on
> > highway, no left-turns coming up on the highway).
>
> Agreed, as long as they're passing someone or not creating a backup in
> traffic or if they have a reason to be there such as an upcoming turn. I
> only have a problem when the person is creating an unnecessary back-up in
> traffic and have a line of cars passing to the right of them.
I agree with this also. Not only is it pratical but also safer to only go
into the left lane (passing lane) when needed.
> > I almost always set my cruise control at 5 MPH below the MAX speed limit
> > (the speed limit is a maximum rating, not a minimum). It is amazing how
> > relaxing a drive can be at this speed. I very rarely have to turn my
> cruise
> > off even in midly heavy traffic because 99% of the cars are passing me.
>
> Yes it is the maximum legal rating, but having 99% of the cars are
passsing
> you? I would venture to say it is safer to go with the flow of traffic
> rather than going faster or slower than traffic.
I would agree with this also. It would be safer for me to keep up with the
flow of traffic, but I just can't justify it. Just because 99% of the cars
are breaking the law via speeding doesn't mean I should have to follow them
in breaking the law. If I were involved in an accident I could be found
liable if it could be proven that I was breaking the law by speeding. Many
cars nowadays (not sure if Honda's have these, but GM's do for sure) come
with information that can be downloaded by police / investigators that
contain vital statistics such as speed that can be used against you in a
trial (and there have been many documented cases where that information has
been used against the driver in a trial - the famous Trans-Am accident in
Florida as one example). In the sue happy reality of a nation we live in
today, I prefer to err on the side of both caution and the law.
I only hope you're not in
> the *passing* lane!
Only when needed. There have been times where I have caused somewhat of a
line behind me in the passing lane while I am passing a slower car than
myself. The point is though I am using the lane for its intended purpose.
The passing lane is not a lane for those who choose to exceed the speed
limit and all others are not permitted to pass.
the
> > passing lane if you are actually passing somebody. With reference to
the
> > passing lane hoggers, speed is really irrelavent. Fast or slow, they
> either
> > have a reason to be there (passing someone) or they don't (not passing
> > anybody, nobody in the right lane near them, no potential cars merging
on
> > highway, no left-turns coming up on the highway).
>
> Agreed, as long as they're passing someone or not creating a backup in
> traffic or if they have a reason to be there such as an upcoming turn. I
> only have a problem when the person is creating an unnecessary back-up in
> traffic and have a line of cars passing to the right of them.
I agree with this also. Not only is it pratical but also safer to only go
into the left lane (passing lane) when needed.
> > I almost always set my cruise control at 5 MPH below the MAX speed limit
> > (the speed limit is a maximum rating, not a minimum). It is amazing how
> > relaxing a drive can be at this speed. I very rarely have to turn my
> cruise
> > off even in midly heavy traffic because 99% of the cars are passing me.
>
> Yes it is the maximum legal rating, but having 99% of the cars are
passsing
> you? I would venture to say it is safer to go with the flow of traffic
> rather than going faster or slower than traffic.
I would agree with this also. It would be safer for me to keep up with the
flow of traffic, but I just can't justify it. Just because 99% of the cars
are breaking the law via speeding doesn't mean I should have to follow them
in breaking the law. If I were involved in an accident I could be found
liable if it could be proven that I was breaking the law by speeding. Many
cars nowadays (not sure if Honda's have these, but GM's do for sure) come
with information that can be downloaded by police / investigators that
contain vital statistics such as speed that can be used against you in a
trial (and there have been many documented cases where that information has
been used against the driver in a trial - the famous Trans-Am accident in
Florida as one example). In the sue happy reality of a nation we live in
today, I prefer to err on the side of both caution and the law.
I only hope you're not in
> the *passing* lane!
Only when needed. There have been times where I have caused somewhat of a
line behind me in the passing lane while I am passing a slower car than
myself. The point is though I am using the lane for its intended purpose.
The passing lane is not a lane for those who choose to exceed the speed
limit and all others are not permitted to pass.
10-19-2003 | 10:30 PM
#18
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Re: Driveing in the fast lane
> > There is absolutely nothing wrong with going below the speed limit in
the
> > passing lane if you are actually passing somebody. With reference to
the
> > passing lane hoggers, speed is really irrelavent. Fast or slow, they
> either
> > have a reason to be there (passing someone) or they don't (not passing
> > anybody, nobody in the right lane near them, no potential cars merging
on
> > highway, no left-turns coming up on the highway).
>
> Agreed, as long as they're passing someone or not creating a backup in
> traffic or if they have a reason to be there such as an upcoming turn. I
> only have a problem when the person is creating an unnecessary back-up in
> traffic and have a line of cars passing to the right of them.
I agree with this also. Not only is it pratical but also safer to only go
into the left lane (passing lane) when needed.
> > I almost always set my cruise control at 5 MPH below the MAX speed limit
> > (the speed limit is a maximum rating, not a minimum). It is amazing how
> > relaxing a drive can be at this speed. I very rarely have to turn my
> cruise
> > off even in midly heavy traffic because 99% of the cars are passing me.
>
> Yes it is the maximum legal rating, but having 99% of the cars are
passsing
> you? I would venture to say it is safer to go with the flow of traffic
> rather than going faster or slower than traffic.
I would agree with this also. It would be safer for me to keep up with the
flow of traffic, but I just can't justify it. Just because 99% of the cars
are breaking the law via speeding doesn't mean I should have to follow them
in breaking the law. If I were involved in an accident I could be found
liable if it could be proven that I was breaking the law by speeding. Many
cars nowadays (not sure if Honda's have these, but GM's do for sure) come
with information that can be downloaded by police / investigators that
contain vital statistics such as speed that can be used against you in a
trial (and there have been many documented cases where that information has
been used against the driver in a trial - the famous Trans-Am accident in
Florida as one example). In the sue happy reality of a nation we live in
today, I prefer to err on the side of both caution and the law.
I only hope you're not in
> the *passing* lane!
Only when needed. There have been times where I have caused somewhat of a
line behind me in the passing lane while I am passing a slower car than
myself. The point is though I am using the lane for its intended purpose.
The passing lane is not a lane for those who choose to exceed the speed
limit and all others are not permitted to pass.
the
> > passing lane if you are actually passing somebody. With reference to
the
> > passing lane hoggers, speed is really irrelavent. Fast or slow, they
> either
> > have a reason to be there (passing someone) or they don't (not passing
> > anybody, nobody in the right lane near them, no potential cars merging
on
> > highway, no left-turns coming up on the highway).
>
> Agreed, as long as they're passing someone or not creating a backup in
> traffic or if they have a reason to be there such as an upcoming turn. I
> only have a problem when the person is creating an unnecessary back-up in
> traffic and have a line of cars passing to the right of them.
I agree with this also. Not only is it pratical but also safer to only go
into the left lane (passing lane) when needed.
> > I almost always set my cruise control at 5 MPH below the MAX speed limit
> > (the speed limit is a maximum rating, not a minimum). It is amazing how
> > relaxing a drive can be at this speed. I very rarely have to turn my
> cruise
> > off even in midly heavy traffic because 99% of the cars are passing me.
>
> Yes it is the maximum legal rating, but having 99% of the cars are
passsing
> you? I would venture to say it is safer to go with the flow of traffic
> rather than going faster or slower than traffic.
I would agree with this also. It would be safer for me to keep up with the
flow of traffic, but I just can't justify it. Just because 99% of the cars
are breaking the law via speeding doesn't mean I should have to follow them
in breaking the law. If I were involved in an accident I could be found
liable if it could be proven that I was breaking the law by speeding. Many
cars nowadays (not sure if Honda's have these, but GM's do for sure) come
with information that can be downloaded by police / investigators that
contain vital statistics such as speed that can be used against you in a
trial (and there have been many documented cases where that information has
been used against the driver in a trial - the famous Trans-Am accident in
Florida as one example). In the sue happy reality of a nation we live in
today, I prefer to err on the side of both caution and the law.
I only hope you're not in
> the *passing* lane!
Only when needed. There have been times where I have caused somewhat of a
line behind me in the passing lane while I am passing a slower car than
myself. The point is though I am using the lane for its intended purpose.
The passing lane is not a lane for those who choose to exceed the speed
limit and all others are not permitted to pass.
10-19-2003 | 10:30 PM
#19
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Re: Driveing in the fast lane
> > There is absolutely nothing wrong with going below the speed limit in
the
> > passing lane if you are actually passing somebody. With reference to
the
> > passing lane hoggers, speed is really irrelavent. Fast or slow, they
> either
> > have a reason to be there (passing someone) or they don't (not passing
> > anybody, nobody in the right lane near them, no potential cars merging
on
> > highway, no left-turns coming up on the highway).
>
> Agreed, as long as they're passing someone or not creating a backup in
> traffic or if they have a reason to be there such as an upcoming turn. I
> only have a problem when the person is creating an unnecessary back-up in
> traffic and have a line of cars passing to the right of them.
I agree with this also. Not only is it pratical but also safer to only go
into the left lane (passing lane) when needed.
> > I almost always set my cruise control at 5 MPH below the MAX speed limit
> > (the speed limit is a maximum rating, not a minimum). It is amazing how
> > relaxing a drive can be at this speed. I very rarely have to turn my
> cruise
> > off even in midly heavy traffic because 99% of the cars are passing me.
>
> Yes it is the maximum legal rating, but having 99% of the cars are
passsing
> you? I would venture to say it is safer to go with the flow of traffic
> rather than going faster or slower than traffic.
I would agree with this also. It would be safer for me to keep up with the
flow of traffic, but I just can't justify it. Just because 99% of the cars
are breaking the law via speeding doesn't mean I should have to follow them
in breaking the law. If I were involved in an accident I could be found
liable if it could be proven that I was breaking the law by speeding. Many
cars nowadays (not sure if Honda's have these, but GM's do for sure) come
with information that can be downloaded by police / investigators that
contain vital statistics such as speed that can be used against you in a
trial (and there have been many documented cases where that information has
been used against the driver in a trial - the famous Trans-Am accident in
Florida as one example). In the sue happy reality of a nation we live in
today, I prefer to err on the side of both caution and the law.
I only hope you're not in
> the *passing* lane!
Only when needed. There have been times where I have caused somewhat of a
line behind me in the passing lane while I am passing a slower car than
myself. The point is though I am using the lane for its intended purpose.
The passing lane is not a lane for those who choose to exceed the speed
limit and all others are not permitted to pass.
the
> > passing lane if you are actually passing somebody. With reference to
the
> > passing lane hoggers, speed is really irrelavent. Fast or slow, they
> either
> > have a reason to be there (passing someone) or they don't (not passing
> > anybody, nobody in the right lane near them, no potential cars merging
on
> > highway, no left-turns coming up on the highway).
>
> Agreed, as long as they're passing someone or not creating a backup in
> traffic or if they have a reason to be there such as an upcoming turn. I
> only have a problem when the person is creating an unnecessary back-up in
> traffic and have a line of cars passing to the right of them.
I agree with this also. Not only is it pratical but also safer to only go
into the left lane (passing lane) when needed.
> > I almost always set my cruise control at 5 MPH below the MAX speed limit
> > (the speed limit is a maximum rating, not a minimum). It is amazing how
> > relaxing a drive can be at this speed. I very rarely have to turn my
> cruise
> > off even in midly heavy traffic because 99% of the cars are passing me.
>
> Yes it is the maximum legal rating, but having 99% of the cars are
passsing
> you? I would venture to say it is safer to go with the flow of traffic
> rather than going faster or slower than traffic.
I would agree with this also. It would be safer for me to keep up with the
flow of traffic, but I just can't justify it. Just because 99% of the cars
are breaking the law via speeding doesn't mean I should have to follow them
in breaking the law. If I were involved in an accident I could be found
liable if it could be proven that I was breaking the law by speeding. Many
cars nowadays (not sure if Honda's have these, but GM's do for sure) come
with information that can be downloaded by police / investigators that
contain vital statistics such as speed that can be used against you in a
trial (and there have been many documented cases where that information has
been used against the driver in a trial - the famous Trans-Am accident in
Florida as one example). In the sue happy reality of a nation we live in
today, I prefer to err on the side of both caution and the law.
I only hope you're not in
> the *passing* lane!
Only when needed. There have been times where I have caused somewhat of a
line behind me in the passing lane while I am passing a slower car than
myself. The point is though I am using the lane for its intended purpose.
The passing lane is not a lane for those who choose to exceed the speed
limit and all others are not permitted to pass.
10-19-2003 | 11:17 PM
#20
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Re: Driveing in the fast lane
Duran wrote:
>>>There is absolutely nothing wrong with going below the speed limit in
>
> the
>
>>>passing lane if you are actually passing somebody. With reference to
>
> the
>
>>>passing lane hoggers, speed is really irrelavent. Fast or slow, they
>>
>>either
>>
>>>have a reason to be there (passing someone) or they don't (not passing
>>>anybody, nobody in the right lane near them, no potential cars merging
>
> on
>
>>>highway, no left-turns coming up on the highway).
>>
>>Agreed, as long as they're passing someone or not creating a backup in
>>traffic or if they have a reason to be there such as an upcoming turn. I
>>only have a problem when the person is creating an unnecessary back-up in
>>traffic and have a line of cars passing to the right of them.
>
>
> I agree with this also. Not only is it pratical but also safer to only go
> into the left lane (passing lane) when needed.
>
>
>>>I almost always set my cruise control at 5 MPH below the MAX speed limit
>>>(the speed limit is a maximum rating, not a minimum). It is amazing how
>>>relaxing a drive can be at this speed. I very rarely have to turn my
>>
>>cruise
>>
>>>off even in midly heavy traffic because 99% of the cars are passing me.
>>
>>Yes it is the maximum legal rating, but having 99% of the cars are
>
> passsing
>
>>you? I would venture to say it is safer to go with the flow of traffic
>>rather than going faster or slower than traffic.
>
>
> I would agree with this also. It would be safer for me to keep up with the
> flow of traffic, but I just can't justify it. Just because 99% of the cars
> are breaking the law via speeding doesn't mean I should have to follow them
> in breaking the law. If I were involved in an accident I could be found
> liable if it could be proven that I was breaking the law by speeding. Many
> cars nowadays (not sure if Honda's have these, but GM's do for sure) come
> with information that can be downloaded by police / investigators that
> contain vital statistics such as speed that can be used against you in a
> trial (and there have been many documented cases where that information has
> been used against the driver in a trial - the famous Trans-Am accident in
> Florida as one example). In the sue happy reality of a nation we live in
> today, I prefer to err on the side of both caution and the law.
>
> I only hope you're not in
>
>>the *passing* lane!
>
>
> Only when needed. There have been times where I have caused somewhat of a
> line behind me in the passing lane while I am passing a slower car than
> myself. The point is though I am using the lane for its intended purpose.
> The passing lane is not a lane for those who choose to exceed the speed
> limit and all others are not permitted to pass.
>
Hi,
Yup, left lane is for passing but not for speeding. If you speed in the
left lane to pass, then you broke the law.
Tony
>
>
10-19-2003 | 11:17 PM
#21
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Re: Driveing in the fast lane
Duran wrote:
>>>There is absolutely nothing wrong with going below the speed limit in
>
> the
>
>>>passing lane if you are actually passing somebody. With reference to
>
> the
>
>>>passing lane hoggers, speed is really irrelavent. Fast or slow, they
>>
>>either
>>
>>>have a reason to be there (passing someone) or they don't (not passing
>>>anybody, nobody in the right lane near them, no potential cars merging
>
> on
>
>>>highway, no left-turns coming up on the highway).
>>
>>Agreed, as long as they're passing someone or not creating a backup in
>>traffic or if they have a reason to be there such as an upcoming turn. I
>>only have a problem when the person is creating an unnecessary back-up in
>>traffic and have a line of cars passing to the right of them.
>
>
> I agree with this also. Not only is it pratical but also safer to only go
> into the left lane (passing lane) when needed.
>
>
>>>I almost always set my cruise control at 5 MPH below the MAX speed limit
>>>(the speed limit is a maximum rating, not a minimum). It is amazing how
>>>relaxing a drive can be at this speed. I very rarely have to turn my
>>
>>cruise
>>
>>>off even in midly heavy traffic because 99% of the cars are passing me.
>>
>>Yes it is the maximum legal rating, but having 99% of the cars are
>
> passsing
>
>>you? I would venture to say it is safer to go with the flow of traffic
>>rather than going faster or slower than traffic.
>
>
> I would agree with this also. It would be safer for me to keep up with the
> flow of traffic, but I just can't justify it. Just because 99% of the cars
> are breaking the law via speeding doesn't mean I should have to follow them
> in breaking the law. If I were involved in an accident I could be found
> liable if it could be proven that I was breaking the law by speeding. Many
> cars nowadays (not sure if Honda's have these, but GM's do for sure) come
> with information that can be downloaded by police / investigators that
> contain vital statistics such as speed that can be used against you in a
> trial (and there have been many documented cases where that information has
> been used against the driver in a trial - the famous Trans-Am accident in
> Florida as one example). In the sue happy reality of a nation we live in
> today, I prefer to err on the side of both caution and the law.
>
> I only hope you're not in
>
>>the *passing* lane!
>
>
> Only when needed. There have been times where I have caused somewhat of a
> line behind me in the passing lane while I am passing a slower car than
> myself. The point is though I am using the lane for its intended purpose.
> The passing lane is not a lane for those who choose to exceed the speed
> limit and all others are not permitted to pass.
>
Hi,
Yup, left lane is for passing but not for speeding. If you speed in the
left lane to pass, then you broke the law.
Tony
>
>
10-19-2003 | 11:17 PM
#22
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Driveing in the fast lane
Duran wrote:
>>>There is absolutely nothing wrong with going below the speed limit in
>
> the
>
>>>passing lane if you are actually passing somebody. With reference to
>
> the
>
>>>passing lane hoggers, speed is really irrelavent. Fast or slow, they
>>
>>either
>>
>>>have a reason to be there (passing someone) or they don't (not passing
>>>anybody, nobody in the right lane near them, no potential cars merging
>
> on
>
>>>highway, no left-turns coming up on the highway).
>>
>>Agreed, as long as they're passing someone or not creating a backup in
>>traffic or if they have a reason to be there such as an upcoming turn. I
>>only have a problem when the person is creating an unnecessary back-up in
>>traffic and have a line of cars passing to the right of them.
>
>
> I agree with this also. Not only is it pratical but also safer to only go
> into the left lane (passing lane) when needed.
>
>
>>>I almost always set my cruise control at 5 MPH below the MAX speed limit
>>>(the speed limit is a maximum rating, not a minimum). It is amazing how
>>>relaxing a drive can be at this speed. I very rarely have to turn my
>>
>>cruise
>>
>>>off even in midly heavy traffic because 99% of the cars are passing me.
>>
>>Yes it is the maximum legal rating, but having 99% of the cars are
>
> passsing
>
>>you? I would venture to say it is safer to go with the flow of traffic
>>rather than going faster or slower than traffic.
>
>
> I would agree with this also. It would be safer for me to keep up with the
> flow of traffic, but I just can't justify it. Just because 99% of the cars
> are breaking the law via speeding doesn't mean I should have to follow them
> in breaking the law. If I were involved in an accident I could be found
> liable if it could be proven that I was breaking the law by speeding. Many
> cars nowadays (not sure if Honda's have these, but GM's do for sure) come
> with information that can be downloaded by police / investigators that
> contain vital statistics such as speed that can be used against you in a
> trial (and there have been many documented cases where that information has
> been used against the driver in a trial - the famous Trans-Am accident in
> Florida as one example). In the sue happy reality of a nation we live in
> today, I prefer to err on the side of both caution and the law.
>
> I only hope you're not in
>
>>the *passing* lane!
>
>
> Only when needed. There have been times where I have caused somewhat of a
> line behind me in the passing lane while I am passing a slower car than
> myself. The point is though I am using the lane for its intended purpose.
> The passing lane is not a lane for those who choose to exceed the speed
> limit and all others are not permitted to pass.
>
Hi,
Yup, left lane is for passing but not for speeding. If you speed in the
left lane to pass, then you broke the law.
Tony
>
>
10-20-2003 | 12:39 AM
#23
Guest
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Re: Driveing in the fast lane
> I would agree with this also. It would be safer for me to keep up with
the
> flow of traffic, but I just can't justify it. Just because 99% of the
cars
> are breaking the law via speeding doesn't mean I should have to follow
them
> in breaking the law. If I were involved in an accident I could be found
> liable if it could be proven that I was breaking the law by speeding.
Many
> cars nowadays (not sure if Honda's have these, but GM's do for sure) come
> with information that can be downloaded by police / investigators that
> contain vital statistics such as speed that can be used against you in a
> trial (and there have been many documented cases where that information
has
> been used against the driver in a trial - the famous Trans-Am accident in
> Florida as one example). In the sue happy reality of a nation we live in
> today, I prefer to err on the side of both caution and the law.
Ah yes - the onboard computers. They can either save you or hang you. All
they need now are cameras to monitor the 360 degree space around your car so
it could also look for other reckless drivers that may cause you to be in an
accident, but have the other driver try to pin it on you. I see what you're
saying though, especially with so many lawyers, ambulance chasers and
lawsuits out there.
**Little anecdote - A few weeks ago I was driving home from work in rush
hour traffic. I was only going about 25 mph, but stopped harder for a
traffic light. Heard brakes lock up and a car hit me from behind (she
probably thought I was going to run the light). We pulled into the gas
station on the next corner and got out of our cars - I checked my bumber and
there was only a light scuff mark on there (mixed with the other nicks over
the years). Her car was fine too. This is in Baltimore County, MD and she
was a college student from New Jersey. Physically we were both fine but she
seemed scared out of her wits! Very apologetic, etc... Checked under the
car and opened the trunk to check the sheet metal by the spare tire. I was
going to let it go, but she still offered me her phone numbers in case I
later wanted to file a claim! I was shocked - she gave me her info but I'm
still not filing a claim. There's a time to be nice and a time to be an
a**hole. I chose to be nice.
> I only hope you're not in
> > the *passing* lane!
>
> Only when needed. There have been times where I have caused somewhat of a
> line behind me in the passing lane while I am passing a slower car than
> myself. The point is though I am using the lane for its intended purpose.
> The passing lane is not a lane for those who choose to exceed the speed
> limit and all others are not permitted to pass.
Hey - as long as you're passing someone else then you're using it for one of
it's intended purposes. Another purpose is to create a bigger artery to
alleviate congestion. :-)
Time for some zzzzzzs.....
-Dave
the
> flow of traffic, but I just can't justify it. Just because 99% of the
cars
> are breaking the law via speeding doesn't mean I should have to follow
them
> in breaking the law. If I were involved in an accident I could be found
> liable if it could be proven that I was breaking the law by speeding.
Many
> cars nowadays (not sure if Honda's have these, but GM's do for sure) come
> with information that can be downloaded by police / investigators that
> contain vital statistics such as speed that can be used against you in a
> trial (and there have been many documented cases where that information
has
> been used against the driver in a trial - the famous Trans-Am accident in
> Florida as one example). In the sue happy reality of a nation we live in
> today, I prefer to err on the side of both caution and the law.
Ah yes - the onboard computers. They can either save you or hang you. All
they need now are cameras to monitor the 360 degree space around your car so
it could also look for other reckless drivers that may cause you to be in an
accident, but have the other driver try to pin it on you. I see what you're
saying though, especially with so many lawyers, ambulance chasers and
lawsuits out there.
**Little anecdote - A few weeks ago I was driving home from work in rush
hour traffic. I was only going about 25 mph, but stopped harder for a
traffic light. Heard brakes lock up and a car hit me from behind (she
probably thought I was going to run the light). We pulled into the gas
station on the next corner and got out of our cars - I checked my bumber and
there was only a light scuff mark on there (mixed with the other nicks over
the years). Her car was fine too. This is in Baltimore County, MD and she
was a college student from New Jersey. Physically we were both fine but she
seemed scared out of her wits! Very apologetic, etc... Checked under the
car and opened the trunk to check the sheet metal by the spare tire. I was
going to let it go, but she still offered me her phone numbers in case I
later wanted to file a claim! I was shocked - she gave me her info but I'm
still not filing a claim. There's a time to be nice and a time to be an
a**hole. I chose to be nice.
> I only hope you're not in
> > the *passing* lane!
>
> Only when needed. There have been times where I have caused somewhat of a
> line behind me in the passing lane while I am passing a slower car than
> myself. The point is though I am using the lane for its intended purpose.
> The passing lane is not a lane for those who choose to exceed the speed
> limit and all others are not permitted to pass.
Hey - as long as you're passing someone else then you're using it for one of
it's intended purposes. Another purpose is to create a bigger artery to
alleviate congestion. :-)
Time for some zzzzzzs.....
-Dave
10-20-2003 | 12:39 AM
#24
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Driveing in the fast lane
> I would agree with this also. It would be safer for me to keep up with
the
> flow of traffic, but I just can't justify it. Just because 99% of the
cars
> are breaking the law via speeding doesn't mean I should have to follow
them
> in breaking the law. If I were involved in an accident I could be found
> liable if it could be proven that I was breaking the law by speeding.
Many
> cars nowadays (not sure if Honda's have these, but GM's do for sure) come
> with information that can be downloaded by police / investigators that
> contain vital statistics such as speed that can be used against you in a
> trial (and there have been many documented cases where that information
has
> been used against the driver in a trial - the famous Trans-Am accident in
> Florida as one example). In the sue happy reality of a nation we live in
> today, I prefer to err on the side of both caution and the law.
Ah yes - the onboard computers. They can either save you or hang you. All
they need now are cameras to monitor the 360 degree space around your car so
it could also look for other reckless drivers that may cause you to be in an
accident, but have the other driver try to pin it on you. I see what you're
saying though, especially with so many lawyers, ambulance chasers and
lawsuits out there.
**Little anecdote - A few weeks ago I was driving home from work in rush
hour traffic. I was only going about 25 mph, but stopped harder for a
traffic light. Heard brakes lock up and a car hit me from behind (she
probably thought I was going to run the light). We pulled into the gas
station on the next corner and got out of our cars - I checked my bumber and
there was only a light scuff mark on there (mixed with the other nicks over
the years). Her car was fine too. This is in Baltimore County, MD and she
was a college student from New Jersey. Physically we were both fine but she
seemed scared out of her wits! Very apologetic, etc... Checked under the
car and opened the trunk to check the sheet metal by the spare tire. I was
going to let it go, but she still offered me her phone numbers in case I
later wanted to file a claim! I was shocked - she gave me her info but I'm
still not filing a claim. There's a time to be nice and a time to be an
a**hole. I chose to be nice.
> I only hope you're not in
> > the *passing* lane!
>
> Only when needed. There have been times where I have caused somewhat of a
> line behind me in the passing lane while I am passing a slower car than
> myself. The point is though I am using the lane for its intended purpose.
> The passing lane is not a lane for those who choose to exceed the speed
> limit and all others are not permitted to pass.
Hey - as long as you're passing someone else then you're using it for one of
it's intended purposes. Another purpose is to create a bigger artery to
alleviate congestion. :-)
Time for some zzzzzzs.....
-Dave
the
> flow of traffic, but I just can't justify it. Just because 99% of the
cars
> are breaking the law via speeding doesn't mean I should have to follow
them
> in breaking the law. If I were involved in an accident I could be found
> liable if it could be proven that I was breaking the law by speeding.
Many
> cars nowadays (not sure if Honda's have these, but GM's do for sure) come
> with information that can be downloaded by police / investigators that
> contain vital statistics such as speed that can be used against you in a
> trial (and there have been many documented cases where that information
has
> been used against the driver in a trial - the famous Trans-Am accident in
> Florida as one example). In the sue happy reality of a nation we live in
> today, I prefer to err on the side of both caution and the law.
Ah yes - the onboard computers. They can either save you or hang you. All
they need now are cameras to monitor the 360 degree space around your car so
it could also look for other reckless drivers that may cause you to be in an
accident, but have the other driver try to pin it on you. I see what you're
saying though, especially with so many lawyers, ambulance chasers and
lawsuits out there.
**Little anecdote - A few weeks ago I was driving home from work in rush
hour traffic. I was only going about 25 mph, but stopped harder for a
traffic light. Heard brakes lock up and a car hit me from behind (she
probably thought I was going to run the light). We pulled into the gas
station on the next corner and got out of our cars - I checked my bumber and
there was only a light scuff mark on there (mixed with the other nicks over
the years). Her car was fine too. This is in Baltimore County, MD and she
was a college student from New Jersey. Physically we were both fine but she
seemed scared out of her wits! Very apologetic, etc... Checked under the
car and opened the trunk to check the sheet metal by the spare tire. I was
going to let it go, but she still offered me her phone numbers in case I
later wanted to file a claim! I was shocked - she gave me her info but I'm
still not filing a claim. There's a time to be nice and a time to be an
a**hole. I chose to be nice.
> I only hope you're not in
> > the *passing* lane!
>
> Only when needed. There have been times where I have caused somewhat of a
> line behind me in the passing lane while I am passing a slower car than
> myself. The point is though I am using the lane for its intended purpose.
> The passing lane is not a lane for those who choose to exceed the speed
> limit and all others are not permitted to pass.
Hey - as long as you're passing someone else then you're using it for one of
it's intended purposes. Another purpose is to create a bigger artery to
alleviate congestion. :-)
Time for some zzzzzzs.....
-Dave
10-20-2003 | 12:39 AM
#25
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Driveing in the fast lane
> I would agree with this also. It would be safer for me to keep up with
the
> flow of traffic, but I just can't justify it. Just because 99% of the
cars
> are breaking the law via speeding doesn't mean I should have to follow
them
> in breaking the law. If I were involved in an accident I could be found
> liable if it could be proven that I was breaking the law by speeding.
Many
> cars nowadays (not sure if Honda's have these, but GM's do for sure) come
> with information that can be downloaded by police / investigators that
> contain vital statistics such as speed that can be used against you in a
> trial (and there have been many documented cases where that information
has
> been used against the driver in a trial - the famous Trans-Am accident in
> Florida as one example). In the sue happy reality of a nation we live in
> today, I prefer to err on the side of both caution and the law.
Ah yes - the onboard computers. They can either save you or hang you. All
they need now are cameras to monitor the 360 degree space around your car so
it could also look for other reckless drivers that may cause you to be in an
accident, but have the other driver try to pin it on you. I see what you're
saying though, especially with so many lawyers, ambulance chasers and
lawsuits out there.
**Little anecdote - A few weeks ago I was driving home from work in rush
hour traffic. I was only going about 25 mph, but stopped harder for a
traffic light. Heard brakes lock up and a car hit me from behind (she
probably thought I was going to run the light). We pulled into the gas
station on the next corner and got out of our cars - I checked my bumber and
there was only a light scuff mark on there (mixed with the other nicks over
the years). Her car was fine too. This is in Baltimore County, MD and she
was a college student from New Jersey. Physically we were both fine but she
seemed scared out of her wits! Very apologetic, etc... Checked under the
car and opened the trunk to check the sheet metal by the spare tire. I was
going to let it go, but she still offered me her phone numbers in case I
later wanted to file a claim! I was shocked - she gave me her info but I'm
still not filing a claim. There's a time to be nice and a time to be an
a**hole. I chose to be nice.
> I only hope you're not in
> > the *passing* lane!
>
> Only when needed. There have been times where I have caused somewhat of a
> line behind me in the passing lane while I am passing a slower car than
> myself. The point is though I am using the lane for its intended purpose.
> The passing lane is not a lane for those who choose to exceed the speed
> limit and all others are not permitted to pass.
Hey - as long as you're passing someone else then you're using it for one of
it's intended purposes. Another purpose is to create a bigger artery to
alleviate congestion. :-)
Time for some zzzzzzs.....
-Dave
the
> flow of traffic, but I just can't justify it. Just because 99% of the
cars
> are breaking the law via speeding doesn't mean I should have to follow
them
> in breaking the law. If I were involved in an accident I could be found
> liable if it could be proven that I was breaking the law by speeding.
Many
> cars nowadays (not sure if Honda's have these, but GM's do for sure) come
> with information that can be downloaded by police / investigators that
> contain vital statistics such as speed that can be used against you in a
> trial (and there have been many documented cases where that information
has
> been used against the driver in a trial - the famous Trans-Am accident in
> Florida as one example). In the sue happy reality of a nation we live in
> today, I prefer to err on the side of both caution and the law.
Ah yes - the onboard computers. They can either save you or hang you. All
they need now are cameras to monitor the 360 degree space around your car so
it could also look for other reckless drivers that may cause you to be in an
accident, but have the other driver try to pin it on you. I see what you're
saying though, especially with so many lawyers, ambulance chasers and
lawsuits out there.
**Little anecdote - A few weeks ago I was driving home from work in rush
hour traffic. I was only going about 25 mph, but stopped harder for a
traffic light. Heard brakes lock up and a car hit me from behind (she
probably thought I was going to run the light). We pulled into the gas
station on the next corner and got out of our cars - I checked my bumber and
there was only a light scuff mark on there (mixed with the other nicks over
the years). Her car was fine too. This is in Baltimore County, MD and she
was a college student from New Jersey. Physically we were both fine but she
seemed scared out of her wits! Very apologetic, etc... Checked under the
car and opened the trunk to check the sheet metal by the spare tire. I was
going to let it go, but she still offered me her phone numbers in case I
later wanted to file a claim! I was shocked - she gave me her info but I'm
still not filing a claim. There's a time to be nice and a time to be an
a**hole. I chose to be nice.
> I only hope you're not in
> > the *passing* lane!
>
> Only when needed. There have been times where I have caused somewhat of a
> line behind me in the passing lane while I am passing a slower car than
> myself. The point is though I am using the lane for its intended purpose.
> The passing lane is not a lane for those who choose to exceed the speed
> limit and all others are not permitted to pass.
Hey - as long as you're passing someone else then you're using it for one of
it's intended purposes. Another purpose is to create a bigger artery to
alleviate congestion. :-)
Time for some zzzzzzs.....
-Dave
10-20-2003 | 12:42 AM
#26
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Driveing in the fast lane
> Hi,
> Yup, left lane is for passing but not for speeding. If you speed in the
> left lane to pass, then you broke the law.
> Tony
Rhetorical question: Wonder how many people in this NG broke the law at one
time or another?
10-20-2003 | 12:42 AM
#27
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Driveing in the fast lane
> Hi,
> Yup, left lane is for passing but not for speeding. If you speed in the
> left lane to pass, then you broke the law.
> Tony
Rhetorical question: Wonder how many people in this NG broke the law at one
time or another?
10-20-2003 | 12:42 AM
#28
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Driveing in the fast lane
> Hi,
> Yup, left lane is for passing but not for speeding. If you speed in the
> left lane to pass, then you broke the law.
> Tony
Rhetorical question: Wonder how many people in this NG broke the law at one
time or another?
10-20-2003 | 06:51 AM
#29
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Driveing in the fast lane
If you are in the passing lane and going the speed limit, thats ok as long
as I can go around you in the slow lane, but thats not always the case.
Most of the time you are createing a rolling road block.
Tom
"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:g8Ekb.127844$9l5.58677@pd7tw2no...
> Hi,
> So, lemee see who has more accident, guy like you or soccer mom?
> Who pays higher insurance? You or soccer mom. 15 over speed limit?
> I don't mind slow drivers, worst are those who don't pay attention
> to their driving. Yaking on cellphone, eating, looking at map/book/
> newspaper, etc. They are the ones who don't use their signal either.
> If I am doing the limit and some guy is on my tail, I don't move over,
> let him go around. But hogging the passing lane is bad thing. You can
> get a ticket for that.
> Tony
>
>
> tflfb wrote:
> > How many of you out there drive in the fast lane ( left ), observing
the
> > speed limit instead of getting over to the (right), to let those of us
that
> > want to break the speed limit move pass you.
> >
> > I dread getting behind a mini van with the soccer mom driveling it.
They
> > think they own the road.
> >
> > In other word you are a rolling road block?
> >
> >
> > If I see someone on my ***, and I am usually over the limit in my CR-V
by at
> > lease 15 mph, I will get over to allow the guy behind me to pass, unless
I
> > am turning left a short distance ahead.
> >
> > I always observe the speed limit in residential, and school zone's.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Tom
> >
> >
>
as I can go around you in the slow lane, but thats not always the case.
Most of the time you are createing a rolling road block.
Tom
"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:g8Ekb.127844$9l5.58677@pd7tw2no...
> Hi,
> So, lemee see who has more accident, guy like you or soccer mom?
> Who pays higher insurance? You or soccer mom. 15 over speed limit?
> I don't mind slow drivers, worst are those who don't pay attention
> to their driving. Yaking on cellphone, eating, looking at map/book/
> newspaper, etc. They are the ones who don't use their signal either.
> If I am doing the limit and some guy is on my tail, I don't move over,
> let him go around. But hogging the passing lane is bad thing. You can
> get a ticket for that.
> Tony
>
>
> tflfb wrote:
> > How many of you out there drive in the fast lane ( left ), observing
the
> > speed limit instead of getting over to the (right), to let those of us
that
> > want to break the speed limit move pass you.
> >
> > I dread getting behind a mini van with the soccer mom driveling it.
They
> > think they own the road.
> >
> > In other word you are a rolling road block?
> >
> >
> > If I see someone on my ***, and I am usually over the limit in my CR-V
by at
> > lease 15 mph, I will get over to allow the guy behind me to pass, unless
I
> > am turning left a short distance ahead.
> >
> > I always observe the speed limit in residential, and school zone's.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Tom
> >
> >
>
10-20-2003 | 06:51 AM
#30
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Driveing in the fast lane
If you are in the passing lane and going the speed limit, thats ok as long
as I can go around you in the slow lane, but thats not always the case.
Most of the time you are createing a rolling road block.
Tom
"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:g8Ekb.127844$9l5.58677@pd7tw2no...
> Hi,
> So, lemee see who has more accident, guy like you or soccer mom?
> Who pays higher insurance? You or soccer mom. 15 over speed limit?
> I don't mind slow drivers, worst are those who don't pay attention
> to their driving. Yaking on cellphone, eating, looking at map/book/
> newspaper, etc. They are the ones who don't use their signal either.
> If I am doing the limit and some guy is on my tail, I don't move over,
> let him go around. But hogging the passing lane is bad thing. You can
> get a ticket for that.
> Tony
>
>
> tflfb wrote:
> > How many of you out there drive in the fast lane ( left ), observing
the
> > speed limit instead of getting over to the (right), to let those of us
that
> > want to break the speed limit move pass you.
> >
> > I dread getting behind a mini van with the soccer mom driveling it.
They
> > think they own the road.
> >
> > In other word you are a rolling road block?
> >
> >
> > If I see someone on my ***, and I am usually over the limit in my CR-V
by at
> > lease 15 mph, I will get over to allow the guy behind me to pass, unless
I
> > am turning left a short distance ahead.
> >
> > I always observe the speed limit in residential, and school zone's.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Tom
> >
> >
>
as I can go around you in the slow lane, but thats not always the case.
Most of the time you are createing a rolling road block.
Tom
"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:g8Ekb.127844$9l5.58677@pd7tw2no...
> Hi,
> So, lemee see who has more accident, guy like you or soccer mom?
> Who pays higher insurance? You or soccer mom. 15 over speed limit?
> I don't mind slow drivers, worst are those who don't pay attention
> to their driving. Yaking on cellphone, eating, looking at map/book/
> newspaper, etc. They are the ones who don't use their signal either.
> If I am doing the limit and some guy is on my tail, I don't move over,
> let him go around. But hogging the passing lane is bad thing. You can
> get a ticket for that.
> Tony
>
>
> tflfb wrote:
> > How many of you out there drive in the fast lane ( left ), observing
the
> > speed limit instead of getting over to the (right), to let those of us
that
> > want to break the speed limit move pass you.
> >
> > I dread getting behind a mini van with the soccer mom driveling it.
They
> > think they own the road.
> >
> > In other word you are a rolling road block?
> >
> >
> > If I see someone on my ***, and I am usually over the limit in my CR-V
by at
> > lease 15 mph, I will get over to allow the guy behind me to pass, unless
I
> > am turning left a short distance ahead.
> >
> > I always observe the speed limit in residential, and school zone's.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Tom
> >
> >
>