Dirty petrol
#1
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Dirty petrol
Hi,
My Honda Integra 90 clogs up on 2000rpm and I really have to give it to
reach 3000 and up, but after 2000 its fine. I took it to the mechanic and he
said it was petrol wasn't good quality and suggested I use it up and fill up
premium unleaded to clean it up. Has anyone had a common problem? or know
anything about it?
Thanks
My Honda Integra 90 clogs up on 2000rpm and I really have to give it to
reach 3000 and up, but after 2000 its fine. I took it to the mechanic and he
said it was petrol wasn't good quality and suggested I use it up and fill up
premium unleaded to clean it up. Has anyone had a common problem? or know
anything about it?
Thanks
#2
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Re: Dirty petrol
In article <4022241e$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, "mim" <mhampars@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My Honda Integra 90 clogs up on 2000rpm and I really have to give it to
> reach 3000 and up, but after 2000 its fine. I took it to the mechanic and he
> said it was petrol wasn't good quality and suggested I use it up and fill up
> premium unleaded to clean it up. Has anyone had a common problem? or know
> anything about it?
>
> Thanks
Several years ago, there was an old gas station or petrol station that had
storgage tanks buried in the ground that were over 40 years old. We
stopped going to the station after the family car started running poorly
every time we purchased gas at that station. We stopped buying gas at that
gas station and the problem went away. Several years later, we saw an
article in the local paper related to the gas station owner admitting that
the storage tank had a hole in the top of it and rain water would get in
the tank after every major rain storm.
You should change the gas filter since it is probably contaminated and
fill up the tank with gas purchased at a fairly new gas station that has
newer storage tanks. Also, I advise you to buy major brands since they are
more likely to have cleaner gasoline. It does not have to be premium gas
or petrol.
> Hi,
>
> My Honda Integra 90 clogs up on 2000rpm and I really have to give it to
> reach 3000 and up, but after 2000 its fine. I took it to the mechanic and he
> said it was petrol wasn't good quality and suggested I use it up and fill up
> premium unleaded to clean it up. Has anyone had a common problem? or know
> anything about it?
>
> Thanks
Several years ago, there was an old gas station or petrol station that had
storgage tanks buried in the ground that were over 40 years old. We
stopped going to the station after the family car started running poorly
every time we purchased gas at that station. We stopped buying gas at that
gas station and the problem went away. Several years later, we saw an
article in the local paper related to the gas station owner admitting that
the storage tank had a hole in the top of it and rain water would get in
the tank after every major rain storm.
You should change the gas filter since it is probably contaminated and
fill up the tank with gas purchased at a fairly new gas station that has
newer storage tanks. Also, I advise you to buy major brands since they are
more likely to have cleaner gasoline. It does not have to be premium gas
or petrol.
#3
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Re: Dirty petrol
In article <4022241e$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, "mim" <mhampars@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My Honda Integra 90 clogs up on 2000rpm and I really have to give it to
> reach 3000 and up, but after 2000 its fine. I took it to the mechanic and he
> said it was petrol wasn't good quality and suggested I use it up and fill up
> premium unleaded to clean it up. Has anyone had a common problem? or know
> anything about it?
>
> Thanks
Several years ago, there was an old gas station or petrol station that had
storgage tanks buried in the ground that were over 40 years old. We
stopped going to the station after the family car started running poorly
every time we purchased gas at that station. We stopped buying gas at that
gas station and the problem went away. Several years later, we saw an
article in the local paper related to the gas station owner admitting that
the storage tank had a hole in the top of it and rain water would get in
the tank after every major rain storm.
You should change the gas filter since it is probably contaminated and
fill up the tank with gas purchased at a fairly new gas station that has
newer storage tanks. Also, I advise you to buy major brands since they are
more likely to have cleaner gasoline. It does not have to be premium gas
or petrol.
> Hi,
>
> My Honda Integra 90 clogs up on 2000rpm and I really have to give it to
> reach 3000 and up, but after 2000 its fine. I took it to the mechanic and he
> said it was petrol wasn't good quality and suggested I use it up and fill up
> premium unleaded to clean it up. Has anyone had a common problem? or know
> anything about it?
>
> Thanks
Several years ago, there was an old gas station or petrol station that had
storgage tanks buried in the ground that were over 40 years old. We
stopped going to the station after the family car started running poorly
every time we purchased gas at that station. We stopped buying gas at that
gas station and the problem went away. Several years later, we saw an
article in the local paper related to the gas station owner admitting that
the storage tank had a hole in the top of it and rain water would get in
the tank after every major rain storm.
You should change the gas filter since it is probably contaminated and
fill up the tank with gas purchased at a fairly new gas station that has
newer storage tanks. Also, I advise you to buy major brands since they are
more likely to have cleaner gasoline. It does not have to be premium gas
or petrol.
#4
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Re: Dirty petrol
In article <4022241e$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, "mim" <mhampars@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My Honda Integra 90 clogs up on 2000rpm and I really have to give it to
> reach 3000 and up, but after 2000 its fine. I took it to the mechanic and he
> said it was petrol wasn't good quality and suggested I use it up and fill up
> premium unleaded to clean it up. Has anyone had a common problem? or know
> anything about it?
>
> Thanks
Several years ago, there was an old gas station or petrol station that had
storgage tanks buried in the ground that were over 40 years old. We
stopped going to the station after the family car started running poorly
every time we purchased gas at that station. We stopped buying gas at that
gas station and the problem went away. Several years later, we saw an
article in the local paper related to the gas station owner admitting that
the storage tank had a hole in the top of it and rain water would get in
the tank after every major rain storm.
You should change the gas filter since it is probably contaminated and
fill up the tank with gas purchased at a fairly new gas station that has
newer storage tanks. Also, I advise you to buy major brands since they are
more likely to have cleaner gasoline. It does not have to be premium gas
or petrol.
> Hi,
>
> My Honda Integra 90 clogs up on 2000rpm and I really have to give it to
> reach 3000 and up, but after 2000 its fine. I took it to the mechanic and he
> said it was petrol wasn't good quality and suggested I use it up and fill up
> premium unleaded to clean it up. Has anyone had a common problem? or know
> anything about it?
>
> Thanks
Several years ago, there was an old gas station or petrol station that had
storgage tanks buried in the ground that were over 40 years old. We
stopped going to the station after the family car started running poorly
every time we purchased gas at that station. We stopped buying gas at that
gas station and the problem went away. Several years later, we saw an
article in the local paper related to the gas station owner admitting that
the storage tank had a hole in the top of it and rain water would get in
the tank after every major rain storm.
You should change the gas filter since it is probably contaminated and
fill up the tank with gas purchased at a fairly new gas station that has
newer storage tanks. Also, I advise you to buy major brands since they are
more likely to have cleaner gasoline. It does not have to be premium gas
or petrol.
#5
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Re: Dirty petrol
In article <4022241e$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, "mim" <mhampars@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My Honda Integra 90 clogs up on 2000rpm and I really have to give it to
> reach 3000 and up, but after 2000 its fine. I took it to the mechanic and he
> said it was petrol wasn't good quality and suggested I use it up and fill up
> premium unleaded to clean it up. Has anyone had a common problem? or know
> anything about it?
>
> Thanks
Several years ago, there was an old gas station or petrol station that had
storgage tanks buried in the ground that were over 40 years old. We
stopped going to the station after the family car started running poorly
every time we purchased gas at that station. We stopped buying gas at that
gas station and the problem went away. Several years later, we saw an
article in the local paper related to the gas station owner admitting that
the storage tank had a hole in the top of it and rain water would get in
the tank after every major rain storm.
You should change the gas filter since it is probably contaminated and
fill up the tank with gas purchased at a fairly new gas station that has
newer storage tanks. Also, I advise you to buy major brands since they are
more likely to have cleaner gasoline. It does not have to be premium gas
or petrol.
> Hi,
>
> My Honda Integra 90 clogs up on 2000rpm and I really have to give it to
> reach 3000 and up, but after 2000 its fine. I took it to the mechanic and he
> said it was petrol wasn't good quality and suggested I use it up and fill up
> premium unleaded to clean it up. Has anyone had a common problem? or know
> anything about it?
>
> Thanks
Several years ago, there was an old gas station or petrol station that had
storgage tanks buried in the ground that were over 40 years old. We
stopped going to the station after the family car started running poorly
every time we purchased gas at that station. We stopped buying gas at that
gas station and the problem went away. Several years later, we saw an
article in the local paper related to the gas station owner admitting that
the storage tank had a hole in the top of it and rain water would get in
the tank after every major rain storm.
You should change the gas filter since it is probably contaminated and
fill up the tank with gas purchased at a fairly new gas station that has
newer storage tanks. Also, I advise you to buy major brands since they are
more likely to have cleaner gasoline. It does not have to be premium gas
or petrol.
#6
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Re: Dirty petrol
very true about the fuel filter and the major brand buying does not have to
be premium just a name brand
"T. Nelson" <tnelson@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:tnelson-0502041418390001@pm2-broad-151.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <4022241e$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, "mim" <mhampars@tpg.com.au>
wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > My Honda Integra 90 clogs up on 2000rpm and I really have to give it to
> > reach 3000 and up, but after 2000 its fine. I took it to the mechanic
and he
> > said it was petrol wasn't good quality and suggested I use it up and
fill up
> > premium unleaded to clean it up. Has anyone had a common problem? or
know
> > anything about it?
> >
> > Thanks
>
> Several years ago, there was an old gas station or petrol station that had
> storgage tanks buried in the ground that were over 40 years old. We
> stopped going to the station after the family car started running poorly
> every time we purchased gas at that station. We stopped buying gas at that
> gas station and the problem went away. Several years later, we saw an
> article in the local paper related to the gas station owner admitting that
> the storage tank had a hole in the top of it and rain water would get in
> the tank after every major rain storm.
> You should change the gas filter since it is probably contaminated and
> fill up the tank with gas purchased at a fairly new gas station that has
> newer storage tanks. Also, I advise you to buy major brands since they are
> more likely to have cleaner gasoline. It does not have to be premium gas
> or petrol.
be premium just a name brand
"T. Nelson" <tnelson@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:tnelson-0502041418390001@pm2-broad-151.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <4022241e$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, "mim" <mhampars@tpg.com.au>
wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > My Honda Integra 90 clogs up on 2000rpm and I really have to give it to
> > reach 3000 and up, but after 2000 its fine. I took it to the mechanic
and he
> > said it was petrol wasn't good quality and suggested I use it up and
fill up
> > premium unleaded to clean it up. Has anyone had a common problem? or
know
> > anything about it?
> >
> > Thanks
>
> Several years ago, there was an old gas station or petrol station that had
> storgage tanks buried in the ground that were over 40 years old. We
> stopped going to the station after the family car started running poorly
> every time we purchased gas at that station. We stopped buying gas at that
> gas station and the problem went away. Several years later, we saw an
> article in the local paper related to the gas station owner admitting that
> the storage tank had a hole in the top of it and rain water would get in
> the tank after every major rain storm.
> You should change the gas filter since it is probably contaminated and
> fill up the tank with gas purchased at a fairly new gas station that has
> newer storage tanks. Also, I advise you to buy major brands since they are
> more likely to have cleaner gasoline. It does not have to be premium gas
> or petrol.
#7
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Re: Dirty petrol
very true about the fuel filter and the major brand buying does not have to
be premium just a name brand
"T. Nelson" <tnelson@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:tnelson-0502041418390001@pm2-broad-151.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <4022241e$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, "mim" <mhampars@tpg.com.au>
wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > My Honda Integra 90 clogs up on 2000rpm and I really have to give it to
> > reach 3000 and up, but after 2000 its fine. I took it to the mechanic
and he
> > said it was petrol wasn't good quality and suggested I use it up and
fill up
> > premium unleaded to clean it up. Has anyone had a common problem? or
know
> > anything about it?
> >
> > Thanks
>
> Several years ago, there was an old gas station or petrol station that had
> storgage tanks buried in the ground that were over 40 years old. We
> stopped going to the station after the family car started running poorly
> every time we purchased gas at that station. We stopped buying gas at that
> gas station and the problem went away. Several years later, we saw an
> article in the local paper related to the gas station owner admitting that
> the storage tank had a hole in the top of it and rain water would get in
> the tank after every major rain storm.
> You should change the gas filter since it is probably contaminated and
> fill up the tank with gas purchased at a fairly new gas station that has
> newer storage tanks. Also, I advise you to buy major brands since they are
> more likely to have cleaner gasoline. It does not have to be premium gas
> or petrol.
be premium just a name brand
"T. Nelson" <tnelson@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:tnelson-0502041418390001@pm2-broad-151.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <4022241e$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, "mim" <mhampars@tpg.com.au>
wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > My Honda Integra 90 clogs up on 2000rpm and I really have to give it to
> > reach 3000 and up, but after 2000 its fine. I took it to the mechanic
and he
> > said it was petrol wasn't good quality and suggested I use it up and
fill up
> > premium unleaded to clean it up. Has anyone had a common problem? or
know
> > anything about it?
> >
> > Thanks
>
> Several years ago, there was an old gas station or petrol station that had
> storgage tanks buried in the ground that were over 40 years old. We
> stopped going to the station after the family car started running poorly
> every time we purchased gas at that station. We stopped buying gas at that
> gas station and the problem went away. Several years later, we saw an
> article in the local paper related to the gas station owner admitting that
> the storage tank had a hole in the top of it and rain water would get in
> the tank after every major rain storm.
> You should change the gas filter since it is probably contaminated and
> fill up the tank with gas purchased at a fairly new gas station that has
> newer storage tanks. Also, I advise you to buy major brands since they are
> more likely to have cleaner gasoline. It does not have to be premium gas
> or petrol.
#8
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Re: Dirty petrol
very true about the fuel filter and the major brand buying does not have to
be premium just a name brand
"T. Nelson" <tnelson@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:tnelson-0502041418390001@pm2-broad-151.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <4022241e$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, "mim" <mhampars@tpg.com.au>
wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > My Honda Integra 90 clogs up on 2000rpm and I really have to give it to
> > reach 3000 and up, but after 2000 its fine. I took it to the mechanic
and he
> > said it was petrol wasn't good quality and suggested I use it up and
fill up
> > premium unleaded to clean it up. Has anyone had a common problem? or
know
> > anything about it?
> >
> > Thanks
>
> Several years ago, there was an old gas station or petrol station that had
> storgage tanks buried in the ground that were over 40 years old. We
> stopped going to the station after the family car started running poorly
> every time we purchased gas at that station. We stopped buying gas at that
> gas station and the problem went away. Several years later, we saw an
> article in the local paper related to the gas station owner admitting that
> the storage tank had a hole in the top of it and rain water would get in
> the tank after every major rain storm.
> You should change the gas filter since it is probably contaminated and
> fill up the tank with gas purchased at a fairly new gas station that has
> newer storage tanks. Also, I advise you to buy major brands since they are
> more likely to have cleaner gasoline. It does not have to be premium gas
> or petrol.
be premium just a name brand
"T. Nelson" <tnelson@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:tnelson-0502041418390001@pm2-broad-151.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <4022241e$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, "mim" <mhampars@tpg.com.au>
wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > My Honda Integra 90 clogs up on 2000rpm and I really have to give it to
> > reach 3000 and up, but after 2000 its fine. I took it to the mechanic
and he
> > said it was petrol wasn't good quality and suggested I use it up and
fill up
> > premium unleaded to clean it up. Has anyone had a common problem? or
know
> > anything about it?
> >
> > Thanks
>
> Several years ago, there was an old gas station or petrol station that had
> storgage tanks buried in the ground that were over 40 years old. We
> stopped going to the station after the family car started running poorly
> every time we purchased gas at that station. We stopped buying gas at that
> gas station and the problem went away. Several years later, we saw an
> article in the local paper related to the gas station owner admitting that
> the storage tank had a hole in the top of it and rain water would get in
> the tank after every major rain storm.
> You should change the gas filter since it is probably contaminated and
> fill up the tank with gas purchased at a fairly new gas station that has
> newer storage tanks. Also, I advise you to buy major brands since they are
> more likely to have cleaner gasoline. It does not have to be premium gas
> or petrol.
#9
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Re: Dirty petrol
very true about the fuel filter and the major brand buying does not have to
be premium just a name brand
"T. Nelson" <tnelson@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:tnelson-0502041418390001@pm2-broad-151.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <4022241e$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, "mim" <mhampars@tpg.com.au>
wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > My Honda Integra 90 clogs up on 2000rpm and I really have to give it to
> > reach 3000 and up, but after 2000 its fine. I took it to the mechanic
and he
> > said it was petrol wasn't good quality and suggested I use it up and
fill up
> > premium unleaded to clean it up. Has anyone had a common problem? or
know
> > anything about it?
> >
> > Thanks
>
> Several years ago, there was an old gas station or petrol station that had
> storgage tanks buried in the ground that were over 40 years old. We
> stopped going to the station after the family car started running poorly
> every time we purchased gas at that station. We stopped buying gas at that
> gas station and the problem went away. Several years later, we saw an
> article in the local paper related to the gas station owner admitting that
> the storage tank had a hole in the top of it and rain water would get in
> the tank after every major rain storm.
> You should change the gas filter since it is probably contaminated and
> fill up the tank with gas purchased at a fairly new gas station that has
> newer storage tanks. Also, I advise you to buy major brands since they are
> more likely to have cleaner gasoline. It does not have to be premium gas
> or petrol.
be premium just a name brand
"T. Nelson" <tnelson@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:tnelson-0502041418390001@pm2-broad-151.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <4022241e$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, "mim" <mhampars@tpg.com.au>
wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > My Honda Integra 90 clogs up on 2000rpm and I really have to give it to
> > reach 3000 and up, but after 2000 its fine. I took it to the mechanic
and he
> > said it was petrol wasn't good quality and suggested I use it up and
fill up
> > premium unleaded to clean it up. Has anyone had a common problem? or
know
> > anything about it?
> >
> > Thanks
>
> Several years ago, there was an old gas station or petrol station that had
> storgage tanks buried in the ground that were over 40 years old. We
> stopped going to the station after the family car started running poorly
> every time we purchased gas at that station. We stopped buying gas at that
> gas station and the problem went away. Several years later, we saw an
> article in the local paper related to the gas station owner admitting that
> the storage tank had a hole in the top of it and rain water would get in
> the tank after every major rain storm.
> You should change the gas filter since it is probably contaminated and
> fill up the tank with gas purchased at a fairly new gas station that has
> newer storage tanks. Also, I advise you to buy major brands since they are
> more likely to have cleaner gasoline. It does not have to be premium gas
> or petrol.
#10
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Re: Dirty petrol
Go to Costco and buy four bottles of Chevron fuel cleaner for $10+ and
it does help.
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Go to Costco and buy four bottles of Chevron fuel cleaner for $10+ and
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Go to Costco and buy four bottles of Chevron fuel cleaner for $10+ and
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Re: Dirty petrol
Go to Costco and buy four bottles of Chevron fuel cleaner for $10+ and
it does help.
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You know im surprised with all the help ppl get around here nobody has
answer to my post. pretty funny huh. i dont think it is.
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> Go to Costco and buy four bottles of Chevron fuel cleaner for $10+ and
> it does help.
>
>
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answer to my post. pretty funny huh. i dont think it is.
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> Go to Costco and buy four bottles of Chevron fuel cleaner for $10+ and
> it does help.
>
>
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You know im surprised with all the help ppl get around here nobody has
answer to my post. pretty funny huh. i dont think it is.
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> Go to Costco and buy four bottles of Chevron fuel cleaner for $10+ and
> it does help.
>
>
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answer to my post. pretty funny huh. i dont think it is.
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> Go to Costco and buy four bottles of Chevron fuel cleaner for $10+ and
> it does help.
>
>
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