DelSol B16A Ignition Timing out but Cam Belt Timing is correct
08-11-2006 | 04:42 PM
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Re: DelSol B16A Ignition Timing out but Cam Belt Timing is correct
When you checked the cam belt timing, did you use the timing marks on
the flywheel? (you mentioned a plastic cover with white mark). I would
check to see if the vacuum advance in the distributor is binding, or
stuck, or out of adjustment.
the flywheel? (you mentioned a plastic cover with white mark). I would
check to see if the vacuum advance in the distributor is binding, or
stuck, or out of adjustment.
08-12-2006 | 11:28 AM
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Re: DelSol B16A Ignition Timing out but Cam Belt Timing is correct
William Burke wrote:
> When you checked the cam belt timing, did you use the timing marks on
> the flywheel? (you mentioned a plastic cover with white mark). I would
> check to see if the vacuum advance in the distributor is binding, or
> stuck, or out of adjustment.
>
there is no vacuum advance on a del sol.
> When you checked the cam belt timing, did you use the timing marks on
> the flywheel? (you mentioned a plastic cover with white mark). I would
> check to see if the vacuum advance in the distributor is binding, or
> stuck, or out of adjustment.
>
there is no vacuum advance on a del sol.
08-12-2006 | 11:28 AM
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Re: DelSol B16A Ignition Timing out but Cam Belt Timing is correct
William Burke wrote:
> When you checked the cam belt timing, did you use the timing marks on
> the flywheel? (you mentioned a plastic cover with white mark). I would
> check to see if the vacuum advance in the distributor is binding, or
> stuck, or out of adjustment.
>
there is no vacuum advance on a del sol.
> When you checked the cam belt timing, did you use the timing marks on
> the flywheel? (you mentioned a plastic cover with white mark). I would
> check to see if the vacuum advance in the distributor is binding, or
> stuck, or out of adjustment.
>
there is no vacuum advance on a del sol.
08-12-2006 | 11:28 AM
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Re: DelSol B16A Ignition Timing out but Cam Belt Timing is correct
William Burke wrote:
> When you checked the cam belt timing, did you use the timing marks on
> the flywheel? (you mentioned a plastic cover with white mark). I would
> check to see if the vacuum advance in the distributor is binding, or
> stuck, or out of adjustment.
>
there is no vacuum advance on a del sol.
> When you checked the cam belt timing, did you use the timing marks on
> the flywheel? (you mentioned a plastic cover with white mark). I would
> check to see if the vacuum advance in the distributor is binding, or
> stuck, or out of adjustment.
>
there is no vacuum advance on a del sol.
08-12-2006 | 11:34 AM
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Re: DelSol B16A Ignition Timing out but Cam Belt Timing is correct
fish wrote:
> Its actually got a brand new distributor on it.
> The car had a misfire so I ordered an ignition module and a coil but
> got sent a whole distributor. Result!
> Missfire was solved, but the timing issue is the same with both dizzys.
if it spans both distributors, the only thing it can be is the belt.
>
> I too was convinced all the symptoms pointed towards the timing belt,
> but I have checked it numerous times.
get the helm manual and check it in reference to that. if the belt is
slack, it's easy for the pulleys to "look about right" but they're not.
>
> Everything seems to line up the arrows on the cams point upwards,
it's set relative the head, not vertical. the head's slightly sloped.
> the
> center lines line up, and the TDC mark ( white on by itself) lines up
> with the mark on the plastic casing.
>
> I'm no professional, so I'm going to have take it to a garage to have
> them check the cambelt.
you can do it yourself if you have the correct info! knowledge is the key.
>
> I was expecting something not to line up. At least by a few degrees.
>
>
>
> jim beam wrote:
>> nm5k@wt.net wrote:
>>> TeGGeR? wrote:
>>>
>>>> Then your timing belt is off, even if it looks like it's not.
>>> Could be.. The only other thing I could think of is maybe a
>>> sheared dist gear pin, or something like that.
>> highly unlikely - it has no load. only way something like that can
>> happen is if the retainer ring somehow disappears...
>>
>>> But being I haven't
>>> looked at the base of one of those distributors, I couldn't say
>>> if they use one. I had this happen on my ford truck one time
>>> though. The pin sheared off at the base, and the dist would
>>> "wander" and gradually shift in direction until it got to the point
>>> that I ran out of room to turn it. Yanked it out, and saw the
>>> gone pin. They had those at the autoparts, and I was back
>>> off to the races. Seems to me, if the timing marks look
>>> perfectly spot on, it should be pretty close, but I've seen
>>> weirder things happen..
>>> MK
>>>
>> check the belt timing. you have all the classic symptoms.
>
> Its actually got a brand new distributor on it.
> The car had a misfire so I ordered an ignition module and a coil but
> got sent a whole distributor. Result!
> Missfire was solved, but the timing issue is the same with both dizzys.
if it spans both distributors, the only thing it can be is the belt.
>
> I too was convinced all the symptoms pointed towards the timing belt,
> but I have checked it numerous times.
get the helm manual and check it in reference to that. if the belt is
slack, it's easy for the pulleys to "look about right" but they're not.
>
> Everything seems to line up the arrows on the cams point upwards,
it's set relative the head, not vertical. the head's slightly sloped.
> the
> center lines line up, and the TDC mark ( white on by itself) lines up
> with the mark on the plastic casing.
>
> I'm no professional, so I'm going to have take it to a garage to have
> them check the cambelt.
you can do it yourself if you have the correct info! knowledge is the key.
>
> I was expecting something not to line up. At least by a few degrees.
>
>
>
> jim beam wrote:
>> nm5k@wt.net wrote:
>>> TeGGeR? wrote:
>>>
>>>> Then your timing belt is off, even if it looks like it's not.
>>> Could be.. The only other thing I could think of is maybe a
>>> sheared dist gear pin, or something like that.
>> highly unlikely - it has no load. only way something like that can
>> happen is if the retainer ring somehow disappears...
>>
>>> But being I haven't
>>> looked at the base of one of those distributors, I couldn't say
>>> if they use one. I had this happen on my ford truck one time
>>> though. The pin sheared off at the base, and the dist would
>>> "wander" and gradually shift in direction until it got to the point
>>> that I ran out of room to turn it. Yanked it out, and saw the
>>> gone pin. They had those at the autoparts, and I was back
>>> off to the races. Seems to me, if the timing marks look
>>> perfectly spot on, it should be pretty close, but I've seen
>>> weirder things happen..
>>> MK
>>>
>> check the belt timing. you have all the classic symptoms.
>
08-12-2006 | 11:34 AM
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Re: DelSol B16A Ignition Timing out but Cam Belt Timing is correct
fish wrote:
> Its actually got a brand new distributor on it.
> The car had a misfire so I ordered an ignition module and a coil but
> got sent a whole distributor. Result!
> Missfire was solved, but the timing issue is the same with both dizzys.
if it spans both distributors, the only thing it can be is the belt.
>
> I too was convinced all the symptoms pointed towards the timing belt,
> but I have checked it numerous times.
get the helm manual and check it in reference to that. if the belt is
slack, it's easy for the pulleys to "look about right" but they're not.
>
> Everything seems to line up the arrows on the cams point upwards,
it's set relative the head, not vertical. the head's slightly sloped.
> the
> center lines line up, and the TDC mark ( white on by itself) lines up
> with the mark on the plastic casing.
>
> I'm no professional, so I'm going to have take it to a garage to have
> them check the cambelt.
you can do it yourself if you have the correct info! knowledge is the key.
>
> I was expecting something not to line up. At least by a few degrees.
>
>
>
> jim beam wrote:
>> nm5k@wt.net wrote:
>>> TeGGeR? wrote:
>>>
>>>> Then your timing belt is off, even if it looks like it's not.
>>> Could be.. The only other thing I could think of is maybe a
>>> sheared dist gear pin, or something like that.
>> highly unlikely - it has no load. only way something like that can
>> happen is if the retainer ring somehow disappears...
>>
>>> But being I haven't
>>> looked at the base of one of those distributors, I couldn't say
>>> if they use one. I had this happen on my ford truck one time
>>> though. The pin sheared off at the base, and the dist would
>>> "wander" and gradually shift in direction until it got to the point
>>> that I ran out of room to turn it. Yanked it out, and saw the
>>> gone pin. They had those at the autoparts, and I was back
>>> off to the races. Seems to me, if the timing marks look
>>> perfectly spot on, it should be pretty close, but I've seen
>>> weirder things happen..
>>> MK
>>>
>> check the belt timing. you have all the classic symptoms.
>
> Its actually got a brand new distributor on it.
> The car had a misfire so I ordered an ignition module and a coil but
> got sent a whole distributor. Result!
> Missfire was solved, but the timing issue is the same with both dizzys.
if it spans both distributors, the only thing it can be is the belt.
>
> I too was convinced all the symptoms pointed towards the timing belt,
> but I have checked it numerous times.
get the helm manual and check it in reference to that. if the belt is
slack, it's easy for the pulleys to "look about right" but they're not.
>
> Everything seems to line up the arrows on the cams point upwards,
it's set relative the head, not vertical. the head's slightly sloped.
> the
> center lines line up, and the TDC mark ( white on by itself) lines up
> with the mark on the plastic casing.
>
> I'm no professional, so I'm going to have take it to a garage to have
> them check the cambelt.
you can do it yourself if you have the correct info! knowledge is the key.
>
> I was expecting something not to line up. At least by a few degrees.
>
>
>
> jim beam wrote:
>> nm5k@wt.net wrote:
>>> TeGGeR? wrote:
>>>
>>>> Then your timing belt is off, even if it looks like it's not.
>>> Could be.. The only other thing I could think of is maybe a
>>> sheared dist gear pin, or something like that.
>> highly unlikely - it has no load. only way something like that can
>> happen is if the retainer ring somehow disappears...
>>
>>> But being I haven't
>>> looked at the base of one of those distributors, I couldn't say
>>> if they use one. I had this happen on my ford truck one time
>>> though. The pin sheared off at the base, and the dist would
>>> "wander" and gradually shift in direction until it got to the point
>>> that I ran out of room to turn it. Yanked it out, and saw the
>>> gone pin. They had those at the autoparts, and I was back
>>> off to the races. Seems to me, if the timing marks look
>>> perfectly spot on, it should be pretty close, but I've seen
>>> weirder things happen..
>>> MK
>>>
>> check the belt timing. you have all the classic symptoms.
>
08-12-2006 | 11:34 AM
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Re: DelSol B16A Ignition Timing out but Cam Belt Timing is correct
fish wrote:
> Its actually got a brand new distributor on it.
> The car had a misfire so I ordered an ignition module and a coil but
> got sent a whole distributor. Result!
> Missfire was solved, but the timing issue is the same with both dizzys.
if it spans both distributors, the only thing it can be is the belt.
>
> I too was convinced all the symptoms pointed towards the timing belt,
> but I have checked it numerous times.
get the helm manual and check it in reference to that. if the belt is
slack, it's easy for the pulleys to "look about right" but they're not.
>
> Everything seems to line up the arrows on the cams point upwards,
it's set relative the head, not vertical. the head's slightly sloped.
> the
> center lines line up, and the TDC mark ( white on by itself) lines up
> with the mark on the plastic casing.
>
> I'm no professional, so I'm going to have take it to a garage to have
> them check the cambelt.
you can do it yourself if you have the correct info! knowledge is the key.
>
> I was expecting something not to line up. At least by a few degrees.
>
>
>
> jim beam wrote:
>> nm5k@wt.net wrote:
>>> TeGGeR? wrote:
>>>
>>>> Then your timing belt is off, even if it looks like it's not.
>>> Could be.. The only other thing I could think of is maybe a
>>> sheared dist gear pin, or something like that.
>> highly unlikely - it has no load. only way something like that can
>> happen is if the retainer ring somehow disappears...
>>
>>> But being I haven't
>>> looked at the base of one of those distributors, I couldn't say
>>> if they use one. I had this happen on my ford truck one time
>>> though. The pin sheared off at the base, and the dist would
>>> "wander" and gradually shift in direction until it got to the point
>>> that I ran out of room to turn it. Yanked it out, and saw the
>>> gone pin. They had those at the autoparts, and I was back
>>> off to the races. Seems to me, if the timing marks look
>>> perfectly spot on, it should be pretty close, but I've seen
>>> weirder things happen..
>>> MK
>>>
>> check the belt timing. you have all the classic symptoms.
>
> Its actually got a brand new distributor on it.
> The car had a misfire so I ordered an ignition module and a coil but
> got sent a whole distributor. Result!
> Missfire was solved, but the timing issue is the same with both dizzys.
if it spans both distributors, the only thing it can be is the belt.
>
> I too was convinced all the symptoms pointed towards the timing belt,
> but I have checked it numerous times.
get the helm manual and check it in reference to that. if the belt is
slack, it's easy for the pulleys to "look about right" but they're not.
>
> Everything seems to line up the arrows on the cams point upwards,
it's set relative the head, not vertical. the head's slightly sloped.
> the
> center lines line up, and the TDC mark ( white on by itself) lines up
> with the mark on the plastic casing.
>
> I'm no professional, so I'm going to have take it to a garage to have
> them check the cambelt.
you can do it yourself if you have the correct info! knowledge is the key.
>
> I was expecting something not to line up. At least by a few degrees.
>
>
>
> jim beam wrote:
>> nm5k@wt.net wrote:
>>> TeGGeR? wrote:
>>>
>>>> Then your timing belt is off, even if it looks like it's not.
>>> Could be.. The only other thing I could think of is maybe a
>>> sheared dist gear pin, or something like that.
>> highly unlikely - it has no load. only way something like that can
>> happen is if the retainer ring somehow disappears...
>>
>>> But being I haven't
>>> looked at the base of one of those distributors, I couldn't say
>>> if they use one. I had this happen on my ford truck one time
>>> though. The pin sheared off at the base, and the dist would
>>> "wander" and gradually shift in direction until it got to the point
>>> that I ran out of room to turn it. Yanked it out, and saw the
>>> gone pin. They had those at the autoparts, and I was back
>>> off to the races. Seems to me, if the timing marks look
>>> perfectly spot on, it should be pretty close, but I've seen
>>> weirder things happen..
>>> MK
>>>
>> check the belt timing. you have all the classic symptoms.
>
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