"Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote:
>
> In article <kj2o825t1bovb44p6lg145mnvlj18if1pl@4ax.com>,
> dgk <sonicechoes@zero-spam-hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Ah, but I'm going to need a new car soon I fear.
>
> Buy used. The money you save on buying used will buy a BUNCH of gas.
> It'll more than make up for buying new, even if buying new gains you a
> few mpg.



Not to mention that older cars often get better mileage than do their
modern counterparts.

I'm not cheap I tell ya! Ah's frugal!!

<G>

JT

 

Hi there,

I'm a UK based Jazz user. To be honest, I'm a fan of the car. It's never
given me a problem, it's got good economy and it does have a lot of nice
features. That said, Spaz's list is basically correct apart from;

- Don't know anything about that dealer carry on. Never had any problems
myself BUT I did a pre-purchase survey in the local DIY shop car park of
Honda users. There's just no way that the Honda dealers are as good as
Mercedes (only owned MB till the Jazz). I expect problems when there are
problems if you get my drift.

- I got my Jazz in 2 weeks with a very good trade in on my A160 which was a
total disaster of a car. You see the difference for me is that my Jazz has
never been to the garage; my A160 was always in it!

- Not had any problems with the floor covering. In fact this is the easiest
car to clean inside and out that I've ever owned. See note below however...
Don't bother with vac. cleaner, just use a stiff brush on the seats. Work
from the top down. Remove the carpets when you get to them, brush off on a
wall. No worries. Damp cloth over the plastic surfaces works fine.

- Don't buy the cargo mat. It's just not needed; it gets in the way when
you put the seats down.

- Personally, I like the wheels BUT I've found that you need to be careful
to clean them behind the spokes otherwise dirt quickly builds up there too.
It's easy to do with a soaked sponge, just remember to do it.

- I drive in a tough environment; school runs, traffic lights, level
crossings, never over 40mph. Mostly stop start. You get the picture. I
get 45mpg which I think is about 37 mpg US. Not sure about the US
conversion.

- I've not had a problem with power at low speeds; it wants to be away. Had
higher speeds (e.g. 70mph) it's got very little zip.

- Stereo fine for me apart from the fact that the rear view mirror wobbles
at high bass levels. It was suggested in one newsgroup that I could turn it
down .

- I drive an automatic and I don't get this gear change business at all.
As I understand it, the car has a continuously variable ratio box. The
manual changer (only used it once) is only there to give you something to
play with. Forget about it. Pull away as fast as you like and there are no
changes; it just gets faster and faster. Amazing. There is a problem with
the auto shifter thingy. It's got no gate between the various forward drive
options. Too easy to slip into one of them and find there's a problem next
time you set off needing power.

- There's no problem with seeing the stereo.

The petrol filler cap on my Jazz does lock.

- The rear window wiper is FAIRLY (not totally) useless

- There is a really small problem with dirt on the outside of the car. I've
got mud flaps BUT when you come to power-wash the car you need to take
special care to remove the very large amount of heavy-dirt / mud on that
bottom radius just below the doors. It's got that lumpy-bumpy under-car
coating and boy does the c**p stick!

- The magic luggage carriers are a total waste of time. So are the rubber
mats you can get for the knee-height self.

 

Hi there,

I'm a UK based Jazz user. To be honest, I'm a fan of the car. It's never
given me a problem, it's got good economy and it does have a lot of nice
features. That said, Spaz's list is basically correct apart from;

- Don't know anything about that dealer carry on. Never had any problems
myself BUT I did a pre-purchase survey in the local DIY shop car park of
Honda users. There's just no way that the Honda dealers are as good as
Mercedes (only owned MB till the Jazz). I expect problems when there are
problems if you get my drift.

- I got my Jazz in 2 weeks with a very good trade in on my A160 which was a
total disaster of a car. You see the difference for me is that my Jazz has
never been to the garage; my A160 was always in it!

- Not had any problems with the floor covering. In fact this is the easiest
car to clean inside and out that I've ever owned. See note below however...
Don't bother with vac. cleaner, just use a stiff brush on the seats. Work
from the top down. Remove the carpets when you get to them, brush off on a
wall. No worries. Damp cloth over the plastic surfaces works fine.

- Don't buy the cargo mat. It's just not needed; it gets in the way when
you put the seats down.

- Personally, I like the wheels BUT I've found that you need to be careful
to clean them behind the spokes otherwise dirt quickly builds up there too.
It's easy to do with a soaked sponge, just remember to do it.

- I drive in a tough environment; school runs, traffic lights, level
crossings, never over 40mph. Mostly stop start. You get the picture. I
get 45mpg which I think is about 37 mpg US. Not sure about the US
conversion.

- I've not had a problem with power at low speeds; it wants to be away. Had
higher speeds (e.g. 70mph) it's got very little zip.

- Stereo fine for me apart from the fact that the rear view mirror wobbles
at high bass levels. It was suggested in one newsgroup that I could turn it
down .

- I drive an automatic and I don't get this gear change business at all.
As I understand it, the car has a continuously variable ratio box. The
manual changer (only used it once) is only there to give you something to
play with. Forget about it. Pull away as fast as you like and there are no
changes; it just gets faster and faster. Amazing. There is a problem with
the auto shifter thingy. It's got no gate between the various forward drive
options. Too easy to slip into one of them and find there's a problem next
time you set off needing power.

- There's no problem with seeing the stereo.

The petrol filler cap on my Jazz does lock.

- The rear window wiper is FAIRLY (not totally) useless

- There is a really small problem with dirt on the outside of the car. I've
got mud flaps BUT when you come to power-wash the car you need to take
special care to remove the very large amount of heavy-dirt / mud on that
bottom radius just below the doors. It's got that lumpy-bumpy under-car
coating and boy does the c**p stick!

- The magic luggage carriers are a total waste of time. So are the rubber
mats you can get for the knee-height self.

 

Hi there,

I'm a UK based Jazz user. To be honest, I'm a fan of the car. It's never
given me a problem, it's got good economy and it does have a lot of nice
features. That said, Spaz's list is basically correct apart from;

- Don't know anything about that dealer carry on. Never had any problems
myself BUT I did a pre-purchase survey in the local DIY shop car park of
Honda users. There's just no way that the Honda dealers are as good as
Mercedes (only owned MB till the Jazz). I expect problems when there are
problems if you get my drift.

- I got my Jazz in 2 weeks with a very good trade in on my A160 which was a
total disaster of a car. You see the difference for me is that my Jazz has
never been to the garage; my A160 was always in it!

- Not had any problems with the floor covering. In fact this is the easiest
car to clean inside and out that I've ever owned. See note below however...
Don't bother with vac. cleaner, just use a stiff brush on the seats. Work
from the top down. Remove the carpets when you get to them, brush off on a
wall. No worries. Damp cloth over the plastic surfaces works fine.

- Don't buy the cargo mat. It's just not needed; it gets in the way when
you put the seats down.

- Personally, I like the wheels BUT I've found that you need to be careful
to clean them behind the spokes otherwise dirt quickly builds up there too.
It's easy to do with a soaked sponge, just remember to do it.

- I drive in a tough environment; school runs, traffic lights, level
crossings, never over 40mph. Mostly stop start. You get the picture. I
get 45mpg which I think is about 37 mpg US. Not sure about the US
conversion.

- I've not had a problem with power at low speeds; it wants to be away. Had
higher speeds (e.g. 70mph) it's got very little zip.

- Stereo fine for me apart from the fact that the rear view mirror wobbles
at high bass levels. It was suggested in one newsgroup that I could turn it
down .

- I drive an automatic and I don't get this gear change business at all.
As I understand it, the car has a continuously variable ratio box. The
manual changer (only used it once) is only there to give you something to
play with. Forget about it. Pull away as fast as you like and there are no
changes; it just gets faster and faster. Amazing. There is a problem with
the auto shifter thingy. It's got no gate between the various forward drive
options. Too easy to slip into one of them and find there's a problem next
time you set off needing power.

- There's no problem with seeing the stereo.

The petrol filler cap on my Jazz does lock.

- The rear window wiper is FAIRLY (not totally) useless

- There is a really small problem with dirt on the outside of the car. I've
got mud flaps BUT when you come to power-wash the car you need to take
special care to remove the very large amount of heavy-dirt / mud on that
bottom radius just below the doors. It's got that lumpy-bumpy under-car
coating and boy does the c**p stick!

- The magic luggage carriers are a total waste of time. So are the rubber
mats you can get for the knee-height self.

 

Now there is something else actually. It sounds like nothing but boy it's a
pain...

When driving in bright sunlight, there is a "U" shaped reflection off the
top of the dash on to the windscreen which just hits my eye-line. Sounds
like nothing, but when you see it, it's hard to ignore...

---
David

 

Now there is something else actually. It sounds like nothing but boy it's a
pain...

When driving in bright sunlight, there is a "U" shaped reflection off the
top of the dash on to the windscreen which just hits my eye-line. Sounds
like nothing, but when you see it, it's hard to ignore...

---
David

 

Now there is something else actually. It sounds like nothing but boy it's a
pain...

When driving in bright sunlight, there is a "U" shaped reflection off the
top of the dash on to the windscreen which just hits my eye-line. Sounds
like nothing, but when you see it, it's hard to ignore...

---
David

 

> - I drive an automatic and I don't get this gear change business at all.
> As I understand it, the car has a continuously variable ratio box. The
> manual changer (only used it once) is only there to give you something to
> play with. Forget about it. Pull away as fast as you like and there are no

Oh, a CVT and a small engine is an excellent fit. No pun intended.
If CVT is an option then a standard transmission would be a backwards
option
to have I think. Considering that it's missing one gear.

 

> - I drive an automatic and I don't get this gear change business at all.
> As I understand it, the car has a continuously variable ratio box. The
> manual changer (only used it once) is only there to give you something to
> play with. Forget about it. Pull away as fast as you like and there are no

Oh, a CVT and a small engine is an excellent fit. No pun intended.
If CVT is an option then a standard transmission would be a backwards
option
to have I think. Considering that it's missing one gear.

 

> - I drive an automatic and I don't get this gear change business at all.
> As I understand it, the car has a continuously variable ratio box. The
> manual changer (only used it once) is only there to give you something to
> play with. Forget about it. Pull away as fast as you like and there are no

Oh, a CVT and a small engine is an excellent fit. No pun intended.
If CVT is an option then a standard transmission would be a backwards
option
to have I think. Considering that it's missing one gear.

 

On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:47:49 -0700, "Spaz" <yea@right.com> wrote:
>official gas mileage is over-rated by 10 mpg, real highway gas mileage is more like 27mpg

Seems unlikely, since Accords with auto tranny gets 33 easy, Civics do
better, and Fit is smaller than either. 37 sounds conservative. Pump
up the tires a little.

J.

 

On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:47:49 -0700, "Spaz" <yea@right.com> wrote:
>official gas mileage is over-rated by 10 mpg, real highway gas mileage is more like 27mpg

Seems unlikely, since Accords with auto tranny gets 33 easy, Civics do
better, and Fit is smaller than either. 37 sounds conservative. Pump
up the tires a little.

J.

 

On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:47:49 -0700, "Spaz" <yea@right.com> wrote:
>official gas mileage is over-rated by 10 mpg, real highway gas mileage is more like 27mpg

Seems unlikely, since Accords with auto tranny gets 33 easy, Civics do
better, and Fit is smaller than either. 37 sounds conservative. Pump
up the tires a little.

J.

 

On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:46:44 +0100, "David Wyne" <dw@hottmail.com>
wrote:

>Now there is something else actually. It sounds like nothing but boy it's a
>pain...
>
>When driving in bright sunlight, there is a "U" shaped reflection off the
>top of the dash on to the windscreen which just hits my eye-line. Sounds
>like nothing, but when you see it, it's hard to ignore...
>
>---
>David
>
I'm not sure how comparable a Fit is to a Jazz. At least the locking
gas cap is different because I noticed right off that the Fit does not
have one. I'm not sure that's very important though.

I was a bit confused about your comment about higher speeds. There
isn't much power available at 70mph? Not too surprising I guess but
I'm not going to be driving over 75mph in the forseeable future. But I
will want 70.

 

On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:46:44 +0100, "David Wyne" <dw@hottmail.com>
wrote:

>Now there is something else actually. It sounds like nothing but boy it's a
>pain...
>
>When driving in bright sunlight, there is a "U" shaped reflection off the
>top of the dash on to the windscreen which just hits my eye-line. Sounds
>like nothing, but when you see it, it's hard to ignore...
>
>---
>David
>
I'm not sure how comparable a Fit is to a Jazz. At least the locking
gas cap is different because I noticed right off that the Fit does not
have one. I'm not sure that's very important though.

I was a bit confused about your comment about higher speeds. There
isn't much power available at 70mph? Not too surprising I guess but
I'm not going to be driving over 75mph in the forseeable future. But I
will want 70.