Go to Costco and get a Whole box of the good Chevron cleaner.

Sounds like the dealer is boosting their monthly sales to me. I have had
somewhere around 14 Hondas now, and I get close to 200k on some of them and
NOT ONCE has any of them ever needed to have the injectors cleaned.

I wouldn't trust that dealer any more.

Hey, now that I think of it, how the hell do they know there is a buildup?
Why did they take them out ????????

G-Man


"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
news:45vq92tp6fgrr648apb2vqmdnvu6s3am86@4ax.com...
> Have my 2004 Accord EX 4i in for a 40k mile service, dealer calls and
> says there's a little buildup on the injectors, do I want to spend
> $160 to get the injector flush?
>
> (hey, they sell this car on a 100k mile "no tuneup" policy)
>
> I usually let the dealer screw me around for modest stuff, but is this
> reasonable or competely bogus? I know I asked online a couple of
> years ago when my Acura dealer tried to sell me that flush on every
> service, sight-unseen, and the consensus seemed to be it might make
> sense around 80k to 100k miles, but not sooner.
>
> Anyway, those friggin' tiny back brakes were down below 2mm so I told
> them to go ahead on those, so I wasn't in the mood for more BS.
>
> Any advice on that injector flush?
>
> FWIW, I use almost exclusively Chevron gas.
>
> Thanks.
>
> J.
>

 

"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:449D8A68.4AAF71EE@interbaun.com...
>
> On the same topic of 'salesmanship', some dentists haven't been trained
> to do that 'talking out loud' thing that makes the patient (read:
> victim) believe that their mouth will rot if they don't get a bunch of
> extra work done RIGHT AWAY.
>
> It's marketing, just like selling car owners undercoating and paint
> protection schemes and window etching and Scotchguard etc, etc . . .

True. But then it depends on who at the dealership you speak to about
the topic. Over the years the Shop Foreman and I have become very good
friends. As such, we look out for each other's best interest in whatever the
concern happens to be.

 

"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:449D8A68.4AAF71EE@interbaun.com...
>
> On the same topic of 'salesmanship', some dentists haven't been trained
> to do that 'talking out loud' thing that makes the patient (read:
> victim) believe that their mouth will rot if they don't get a bunch of
> extra work done RIGHT AWAY.
>
> It's marketing, just like selling car owners undercoating and paint
> protection schemes and window etching and Scotchguard etc, etc . . .

True. But then it depends on who at the dealership you speak to about
the topic. Over the years the Shop Foreman and I have become very good
friends. As such, we look out for each other's best interest in whatever the
concern happens to be.

 

"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:449D8A68.4AAF71EE@interbaun.com...
>
> On the same topic of 'salesmanship', some dentists haven't been trained
> to do that 'talking out loud' thing that makes the patient (read:
> victim) believe that their mouth will rot if they don't get a bunch of
> extra work done RIGHT AWAY.
>
> It's marketing, just like selling car owners undercoating and paint
> protection schemes and window etching and Scotchguard etc, etc . . .

True. But then it depends on who at the dealership you speak to about
the topic. Over the years the Shop Foreman and I have become very good
friends. As such, we look out for each other's best interest in whatever the
concern happens to be.

 

JXStern <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in
news:45vq92tp6fgrr648apb2vqmdnvu6s3am86@4ax.com:

> Have my 2004 Accord EX 4i in for a 40k mile service, dealer calls and
> says there's a little buildup on the injectors,



No there is not.


>
> Any advice on that injector flush?



Pass on it.




--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

 

JXStern <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in
news:45vq92tp6fgrr648apb2vqmdnvu6s3am86@4ax.com:

> Have my 2004 Accord EX 4i in for a 40k mile service, dealer calls and
> says there's a little buildup on the injectors,



No there is not.


>
> Any advice on that injector flush?



Pass on it.




--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

 

JXStern <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in
news:45vq92tp6fgrr648apb2vqmdnvu6s3am86@4ax.com:

> Have my 2004 Accord EX 4i in for a 40k mile service, dealer calls and
> says there's a little buildup on the injectors,



No there is not.


>
> Any advice on that injector flush?



Pass on it.




--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

 

"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
news:45vq92tp6fgrr648apb2vqmdnvu6s3am86@4ax.com...
> Have my 2004 Accord EX 4i in for a 40k mile service, dealer calls and
> says there's a little buildup on the injectors, do I want to spend
> $160 to get the injector flush?
>
> (hey, they sell this car on a 100k mile "no tuneup" policy)
>
> I usually let the dealer screw me around for modest stuff, but is this
> reasonable or competely bogus? I know I asked online a couple of
> years ago when my Acura dealer tried to sell me that flush on every
> service, sight-unseen, and the consensus seemed to be it might make
> sense around 80k to 100k miles, but not sooner.
>
> Anyway, those friggin' tiny back brakes were down below 2mm so I told
> them to go ahead on those, so I wasn't in the mood for more BS.
>
> Any advice on that injector flush?
>
> FWIW, I use almost exclusively Chevron gas.
>
> Thanks.
>
> J.
>
The injector flush is very effective at transferring money from your pocket
to theirs. You can do just as good a job with the stuff you pour in the tank
(lots of people perfer Techron, but I've had good results with the cheaper
Pyroil). Since you have been running Chevron I think even that is overkill;
I used to use a tank of Chevron or Texaco instead of injector cleaner when
my old Nissan was getting balky. The effect was pretty much the same. The
dealer is being completely bogus in this case.

Mike

 

"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
news:45vq92tp6fgrr648apb2vqmdnvu6s3am86@4ax.com...
> Have my 2004 Accord EX 4i in for a 40k mile service, dealer calls and
> says there's a little buildup on the injectors, do I want to spend
> $160 to get the injector flush?
>
> (hey, they sell this car on a 100k mile "no tuneup" policy)
>
> I usually let the dealer screw me around for modest stuff, but is this
> reasonable or competely bogus? I know I asked online a couple of
> years ago when my Acura dealer tried to sell me that flush on every
> service, sight-unseen, and the consensus seemed to be it might make
> sense around 80k to 100k miles, but not sooner.
>
> Anyway, those friggin' tiny back brakes were down below 2mm so I told
> them to go ahead on those, so I wasn't in the mood for more BS.
>
> Any advice on that injector flush?
>
> FWIW, I use almost exclusively Chevron gas.
>
> Thanks.
>
> J.
>
The injector flush is very effective at transferring money from your pocket
to theirs. You can do just as good a job with the stuff you pour in the tank
(lots of people perfer Techron, but I've had good results with the cheaper
Pyroil). Since you have been running Chevron I think even that is overkill;
I used to use a tank of Chevron or Texaco instead of injector cleaner when
my old Nissan was getting balky. The effect was pretty much the same. The
dealer is being completely bogus in this case.

Mike

 

"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
news:45vq92tp6fgrr648apb2vqmdnvu6s3am86@4ax.com...
> Have my 2004 Accord EX 4i in for a 40k mile service, dealer calls and
> says there's a little buildup on the injectors, do I want to spend
> $160 to get the injector flush?
>
> (hey, they sell this car on a 100k mile "no tuneup" policy)
>
> I usually let the dealer screw me around for modest stuff, but is this
> reasonable or competely bogus? I know I asked online a couple of
> years ago when my Acura dealer tried to sell me that flush on every
> service, sight-unseen, and the consensus seemed to be it might make
> sense around 80k to 100k miles, but not sooner.
>
> Anyway, those friggin' tiny back brakes were down below 2mm so I told
> them to go ahead on those, so I wasn't in the mood for more BS.
>
> Any advice on that injector flush?
>
> FWIW, I use almost exclusively Chevron gas.
>
> Thanks.
>
> J.
>
The injector flush is very effective at transferring money from your pocket
to theirs. You can do just as good a job with the stuff you pour in the tank
(lots of people perfer Techron, but I've had good results with the cheaper
Pyroil). Since you have been running Chevron I think even that is overkill;
I used to use a tank of Chevron or Texaco instead of injector cleaner when
my old Nissan was getting balky. The effect was pretty much the same. The
dealer is being completely bogus in this case.

Mike

 

On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:15:44 GMT, "Elle"
<honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:

>This injector flush is absolutely not something a consensus
>here believes is worth the money.

Thanks all.

I did pass on it.

>40k miles is not bad for OEM brake pads. That's about how
>long my first ones lasted on my 91 Civic.

Well, it's the *second* time for the rear brakes. The fronts are
still OK at 40k, go figure. I've seen the discussion here that this
model Honda has these tiny pads in the rear that do go out too
quickly. Could probably go another 5k on the rear pads,
extrapolating, but like I said, I let the dealer lead me on this one.

Which is not to say that I trust them - I don't, they're known
somewhat sleazy in sales and service, but they're a big dealer and the
next nearest one is a lot less convenient.

J.

 

On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:15:44 GMT, "Elle"
<honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:

>This injector flush is absolutely not something a consensus
>here believes is worth the money.

Thanks all.

I did pass on it.

>40k miles is not bad for OEM brake pads. That's about how
>long my first ones lasted on my 91 Civic.

Well, it's the *second* time for the rear brakes. The fronts are
still OK at 40k, go figure. I've seen the discussion here that this
model Honda has these tiny pads in the rear that do go out too
quickly. Could probably go another 5k on the rear pads,
extrapolating, but like I said, I let the dealer lead me on this one.

Which is not to say that I trust them - I don't, they're known
somewhat sleazy in sales and service, but they're a big dealer and the
next nearest one is a lot less convenient.

J.

 

On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:15:44 GMT, "Elle"
<honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:

>This injector flush is absolutely not something a consensus
>here believes is worth the money.

Thanks all.

I did pass on it.

>40k miles is not bad for OEM brake pads. That's about how
>long my first ones lasted on my 91 Civic.

Well, it's the *second* time for the rear brakes. The fronts are
still OK at 40k, go figure. I've seen the discussion here that this
model Honda has these tiny pads in the rear that do go out too
quickly. Could probably go another 5k on the rear pads,
extrapolating, but like I said, I let the dealer lead me on this one.

Which is not to say that I trust them - I don't, they're known
somewhat sleazy in sales and service, but they're a big dealer and the
next nearest one is a lot less convenient.

J.

 

JXStern wrote:

> Well, it's the *second* time for the rear brakes. The fronts are
> still OK at 40k, go figure. I've seen the discussion here that this
> model Honda has these tiny pads in the rear that do go out too
> quickly. Could probably go another 5k on the rear pads,
> extrapolating, but like I said, I let the dealer lead me on this one.
>
----------------------------------------

You didn't tell us __it's the *second* time__.

I was going to suggest you've got a stuck slider. It seems to be common
on Hondas, even from NEW.

You need a brake job from SOMEBODY WHO CARES, who will slip them all
apart and lube everything with the correct grease, since you'll just
have to do it prematurely again, or worse, you'll shred one side of your
rotor before the wear indicator starts screaming.

Look at the valuable resources at www.tegger.com for more about Honda
brake jobs.

'Curly'

 

JXStern wrote:

> Well, it's the *second* time for the rear brakes. The fronts are
> still OK at 40k, go figure. I've seen the discussion here that this
> model Honda has these tiny pads in the rear that do go out too
> quickly. Could probably go another 5k on the rear pads,
> extrapolating, but like I said, I let the dealer lead me on this one.
>
----------------------------------------

You didn't tell us __it's the *second* time__.

I was going to suggest you've got a stuck slider. It seems to be common
on Hondas, even from NEW.

You need a brake job from SOMEBODY WHO CARES, who will slip them all
apart and lube everything with the correct grease, since you'll just
have to do it prematurely again, or worse, you'll shred one side of your
rotor before the wear indicator starts screaming.

Look at the valuable resources at www.tegger.com for more about Honda
brake jobs.

'Curly'