<snip>

The only reliable way to stop smoking is not to start.

Full_Name <Email@address.com> writes:

> Using that stat posted in the article I think that it's high time
> that we get the good Diesels here in North America. Including the
> new 2005 GTi Turbo Diesel. Ban Fast food & use the cooking oil for
> the fast Turbo Diesel's.
>
> More sub 7 sec 0-60, 140+ MPH Diesels I say !

See:

http://www.me.umn.edu/centers/cdr/

 

<snip>

The only reliable way to stop smoking is not to start.

Full_Name <Email@address.com> writes:

> Using that stat posted in the article I think that it's high time
> that we get the good Diesels here in North America. Including the
> new 2005 GTi Turbo Diesel. Ban Fast food & use the cooking oil for
> the fast Turbo Diesel's.
>
> More sub 7 sec 0-60, 140+ MPH Diesels I say !

See:

http://www.me.umn.edu/centers/cdr/

 

"Tim McNamara" <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote in message
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>
> <snip>
>
> The only reliable way to stop smoking is not to start.
>

Everyone stops...eventually, one way or another

Natalie

 

"Tim McNamara" <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote in message
news:m2acrmbc3j.fsf@Stella-Blue.local...
>
> <snip>
>
> The only reliable way to stop smoking is not to start.
>

Everyone stops...eventually, one way or another

Natalie

 

WickeddollŽ wrote:

> "Marvin" <physchemNOSPAM@cloud9.net> wrote in message
> news:10tqsrksl8pglb1@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>Philip wrote:
>>
>>>Cigarettes Worse for Air Than Cars
>>>
>>>Ivanhoe Newswire
>>>www.ivanhoe.com
>>>September 1, 2004
>>>
>>>Holy smoke! The air pollution emitted by cigarettes may be 10-times
>>>greater than diesel car exhaust.
>>
>>I'm not defending second-hand tobacco smoke, but deisel engine exhaust,
>>especially the kind you can see, is much richer in carcinogens.
>>
>
>
> But they smell better...
>
> Natalie

Hi...

With all due respect Natalie, do you wear perfume in
public? Use scented hand soap? Or pretty smelling
(in your opinion) detergents or fabric softener?
Scented hair products? Shoe polishes?

If yes (and I suspect it will be) then you know you're
greedily harming a fair number of people. Not for a
difficult to control addiction, but solely for your own
personal vanity.

Ken

 

WickeddollŽ wrote:

> "Marvin" <physchemNOSPAM@cloud9.net> wrote in message
> news:10tqsrksl8pglb1@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>Philip wrote:
>>
>>>Cigarettes Worse for Air Than Cars
>>>
>>>Ivanhoe Newswire
>>>www.ivanhoe.com
>>>September 1, 2004
>>>
>>>Holy smoke! The air pollution emitted by cigarettes may be 10-times
>>>greater than diesel car exhaust.
>>
>>I'm not defending second-hand tobacco smoke, but deisel engine exhaust,
>>especially the kind you can see, is much richer in carcinogens.
>>
>
>
> But they smell better...
>
> Natalie

Hi...

With all due respect Natalie, do you wear perfume in
public? Use scented hand soap? Or pretty smelling
(in your opinion) detergents or fabric softener?
Scented hair products? Shoe polishes?

If yes (and I suspect it will be) then you know you're
greedily harming a fair number of people. Not for a
difficult to control addiction, but solely for your own
personal vanity.

Ken

 

Yes, I never dated a smoker. Kissing a stale ashtray is not very
appealing... My wife smokes very little, then mostly not at home and never
in front of our son.

Did you say you're an ex-smoker...?...

In fact I enjoy an occasional cigar myself and I am very concerned that our
(UK) government is going the North American way by trying to impose a
near-blanket ban on smoking in pubs and restaurants. Luckily there are two
years for consultation and I hope they will back off. Measures to protect
workers in smoky establishments are already being taken on a voluntary basis
and this can be strengthened, perhaps even with legislation.

DAS
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[...]
> Back when I was single, I tried to date a smoker, but it was just too
[...]>
> Natalie, a smoking ****, who will go up to strangers in public places, to
> remind them that they're in a no-smoking area
[...]

 

Yes, I never dated a smoker. Kissing a stale ashtray is not very
appealing... My wife smokes very little, then mostly not at home and never
in front of our son.

Did you say you're an ex-smoker...?...

In fact I enjoy an occasional cigar myself and I am very concerned that our
(UK) government is going the North American way by trying to impose a
near-blanket ban on smoking in pubs and restaurants. Luckily there are two
years for consultation and I hope they will back off. Measures to protect
workers in smoky establishments are already being taken on a voluntary basis
and this can be strengthened, perhaps even with legislation.

DAS
--
For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
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"WickeddollŽ" <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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[...]
> Back when I was single, I tried to date a smoker, but it was just too
[...]>
> Natalie, a smoking ****, who will go up to strangers in public places, to
> remind them that they're in a no-smoking area
[...]

 

"Ken Weitzel" <kweitzel@shaw.ca> wrote in message
newsDgDd.734811$%k.434469@pd7tw2no...
>
>
> WickeddollŽ wrote:
>
>> "Marvin" <physchemNOSPAM@cloud9.net> wrote in message
>> news:10tqsrksl8pglb1@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>>>Philip wrote:
>>>
>>>>Cigarettes Worse for Air Than Cars
>>>>
>>>>Ivanhoe Newswire
>>>>www.ivanhoe.com
>>>>September 1, 2004
>>>>
>>>>Holy smoke! The air pollution emitted by cigarettes may be 10-times
>>>>greater than diesel car exhaust.
>>>
>>>I'm not defending second-hand tobacco smoke, but deisel engine exhaust,
>>>especially the kind you can see, is much richer in carcinogens.
>>>
>>
>>
>> But they smell better...
>>
>> Natalie
>
> Hi...
>
> With all due respect Natalie, do you wear perfume in
> public? Use scented hand soap? Or pretty smelling
> (in your opinion) detergents or fabric softener?
> Scented hair products? Shoe polishes?

Nope - I can't stand the irritation
>
> If yes (and I suspect it will be) then you know you're
> greedily harming a fair number of people. Not for a
> difficult to control addiction, but solely for your own
> personal vanity.
>
> Ken

LOL - doesn't apply to me, but I know what you mean

Natalie

 

"Ken Weitzel" <kweitzel@shaw.ca> wrote in message
newsDgDd.734811$%k.434469@pd7tw2no...
>
>
> WickeddollŽ wrote:
>
>> "Marvin" <physchemNOSPAM@cloud9.net> wrote in message
>> news:10tqsrksl8pglb1@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>>>Philip wrote:
>>>
>>>>Cigarettes Worse for Air Than Cars
>>>>
>>>>Ivanhoe Newswire
>>>>www.ivanhoe.com
>>>>September 1, 2004
>>>>
>>>>Holy smoke! The air pollution emitted by cigarettes may be 10-times
>>>>greater than diesel car exhaust.
>>>
>>>I'm not defending second-hand tobacco smoke, but deisel engine exhaust,
>>>especially the kind you can see, is much richer in carcinogens.
>>>
>>
>>
>> But they smell better...
>>
>> Natalie
>
> Hi...
>
> With all due respect Natalie, do you wear perfume in
> public? Use scented hand soap? Or pretty smelling
> (in your opinion) detergents or fabric softener?
> Scented hair products? Shoe polishes?

Nope - I can't stand the irritation
>
> If yes (and I suspect it will be) then you know you're
> greedily harming a fair number of people. Not for a
> difficult to control addiction, but solely for your own
> personal vanity.
>
> Ken

LOL - doesn't apply to me, but I know what you mean

Natalie

 

I stopped when I was thirteen... :-)

DAS
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"Tim McNamara" <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote in message
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[...]
>
> The only reliable way to stop smoking is not to start.
[...]

 

I stopped when I was thirteen... :-)

DAS
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"Tim McNamara" <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote in message
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[...]
>
> The only reliable way to stop smoking is not to start.
[...]

 

"Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote in message
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> Let me light up a cigarette before I read the article. :P
>
> The sad part is that smokers (myself included) KNOW that cigarettes have
> very dire consequences on ones health. Creating yet another study proving
> that won't help. Educating adolescents is the only solution to smoking,
> because they are the most vulnerable to peer pressure and other
> influences.

I think you miss the point, which is that diesel exhaust is so much
relatively cleaner than cigarette exhaust. This doesn't highlight the well
known fact that cigarettes are a nasty habit tolerated until now by millions
of non smokers whenever they socialise, but it highlights the absurd
negative press about particulates directed by pressure groups against diesel
engined cars.
It turns out that it takes about 3.5 modern diesel cars to create as much
particulate pollution as a single cigarette.

Huw

 

"Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote in message
news:a8ednSr7ioherUHcRVn-oQ@rogers.com...
> Let me light up a cigarette before I read the article. :P
>
> The sad part is that smokers (myself included) KNOW that cigarettes have
> very dire consequences on ones health. Creating yet another study proving
> that won't help. Educating adolescents is the only solution to smoking,
> because they are the most vulnerable to peer pressure and other
> influences.

I think you miss the point, which is that diesel exhaust is so much
relatively cleaner than cigarette exhaust. This doesn't highlight the well
known fact that cigarettes are a nasty habit tolerated until now by millions
of non smokers whenever they socialise, but it highlights the absurd
negative press about particulates directed by pressure groups against diesel
engined cars.
It turns out that it takes about 3.5 modern diesel cars to create as much
particulate pollution as a single cigarette.

Huw

 

CarcinogenS?

The only significant carcinogenic pollutant is, AFAIK, particulate carbon.
That is going down rapidly with particulate filters, and I doubt you would
breathe much in unless you are standing really close.

How may of us eat burnt toast and charred steak?

Or lean over a pan of frying bacon? (Get that whiff of nitrosamines!)

DAS
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[...]
> but deisel engine exhaust, especially the kind you can see, is much richer
> in carcinogens.
[...]