deil@spzm.com wrote:
> In article <dZ2Dd.1119$hQ6.100592@twister.southeast.rr.com> ,
> "B.Creech" <bcreech61@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> And exactly what does this have to do with Acura
>> automobiles....................ie this newsgroup?
>
> Phillip, you multiposted to other NGs and now P.O.ed the rich Acura
> group. Not to fear for I have corrected your error.

NOT an error, deil ol chap. LOL "The rich Acura group." ROFLOL.

 

deil@spzm.com wrote:
> In article <dZ2Dd.1119$hQ6.100592@twister.southeast.rr.com> ,
> "B.Creech" <bcreech61@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> And exactly what does this have to do with Acura
>> automobiles....................ie this newsgroup?
>
> Phillip, you multiposted to other NGs and now P.O.ed the rich Acura
> group. Not to fear for I have corrected your error.

NOT an error, deil ol chap. LOL "The rich Acura group." ROFLOL.

 

Philip wrote:
> Cigarettes Worse for Air Than Cars
>
> Ivanhoe Newswire
> www.ivanhoe.com
> September 1, 2004
>
> Holy smoke! The air pollution emitted by cigarettes may be 10-times greater
> than diesel car exhaust.

I'm not defending second-hand tobacco smoke, but deisel engine exhaust, especially the kind you can see, is much richer in
carcinogens.

>
> Investigators hope the negative comparison can be a valuable educational
> message against tobacco use for adolescents.
>
> Environmental tobacco smoke produces fine particulate matter, the most
> dangerous element of air pollution. According to the new study, levels
> indoors can far exceed those outdoors because new engine models and
> lead-free fuels have cut the levels of particulate matter emissions from car
> exhausts.
>
> The study was conducted in a garage in a small, Italian mountain town where
> there are very low levels of particulate matter air pollution. A turbo
> diesel engine was left idling for 30 minutes in the garage with the doors
> closed. Then, the doors were left open for four hours. The car was fueled
> with low sulphur fuel. Three filter cigarettes were also lit up
> sequentially, and left smoldering for another 30 minutes.
>
> Results of the experiment show the diesel engine exhaust doubled the
> particulate matter levels found outdoors at its peak.
>
> The environmental tobacco smoke particulate matter reached levels 15-times
> higher than those measured outdoors.
>
> This article was reported by Ivanhoe.com, who offers Medical Alerts by
> e-mail every day of the week. To subscribe, go to:
>
> http://www.ivanhoe.com/newsalert/.
>
> SOURCE: Tobacco Control, 2004;13:219-221
>
>

 

Philip wrote:
> Cigarettes Worse for Air Than Cars
>
> Ivanhoe Newswire
> www.ivanhoe.com
> September 1, 2004
>
> Holy smoke! The air pollution emitted by cigarettes may be 10-times greater
> than diesel car exhaust.

I'm not defending second-hand tobacco smoke, but deisel engine exhaust, especially the kind you can see, is much richer in
carcinogens.

>
> Investigators hope the negative comparison can be a valuable educational
> message against tobacco use for adolescents.
>
> Environmental tobacco smoke produces fine particulate matter, the most
> dangerous element of air pollution. According to the new study, levels
> indoors can far exceed those outdoors because new engine models and
> lead-free fuels have cut the levels of particulate matter emissions from car
> exhausts.
>
> The study was conducted in a garage in a small, Italian mountain town where
> there are very low levels of particulate matter air pollution. A turbo
> diesel engine was left idling for 30 minutes in the garage with the doors
> closed. Then, the doors were left open for four hours. The car was fueled
> with low sulphur fuel. Three filter cigarettes were also lit up
> sequentially, and left smoldering for another 30 minutes.
>
> Results of the experiment show the diesel engine exhaust doubled the
> particulate matter levels found outdoors at its peak.
>
> The environmental tobacco smoke particulate matter reached levels 15-times
> higher than those measured outdoors.
>
> This article was reported by Ivanhoe.com, who offers Medical Alerts by
> e-mail every day of the week. To subscribe, go to:
>
> http://www.ivanhoe.com/newsalert/.
>
> SOURCE: Tobacco Control, 2004;13:219-221
>
>

 

WickeddollŽ wrote:
> "Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote in message
> news:a8ednSr7ioherUHcRVn-oQ@rogers.com...
>
>>Let me light up a cigarette before I read the article. :P
>>
>>The sad part is that smokers (myself included) KNOW that cigarettes have
>>very dire consequences on ones health. Creating yet another study proving
>>that won't help. Educating adolescents is the only solution to smoking,
>>because they are the most vulnerable to peer pressure and other influences.
>>That seems to be the reason behind this study, and I hope it works, because
>>not starting to smoke is so much easier than trying to quit.
>>
>>I think I tried 10 times to quit, including cold turkey, the patch and the
>>chewing gum and nothing worked. The only thing I found reduced the number
>>of cigarettes I smoked was keeping myself busy. My record was 3 cigarettes
>>in one day, and that was because I had to completely reassemble my old
>>Yamaha RZ350 before a trip (I had the engine, carbs, front end, swing arm
>>and brakes rebuilt, and needed to put everything back together).
>>
>>Cosmin
>
>
> I used to think smokers who couldn't quit were just copping out. That was
> until I worked in an OB/Gyn clinic! Those women would be terrified that
> their babies would be affected, but were able to eat right, exercise, and
> everything we told them they needed to do, but often could *not* stop
> smoking. It was then that I realized what a powerful addiction cigarette
> smoking is - wow!
>
> Natalie
>
<snip>
The company I used to work for made medical devices. It had as a consultant a physician from Britain who had a world-wide
reputation in his field. He was a heavy smoker. When I got to know him well enough, I asked him why he smoked, when he
certainly knew the risk. His answer was that he would run blood tests to know when he was about to get cancer, and then
quit. I was certain he knew that there is no such test, and I didn't pursue the matter. Addicts rationalize.

Some time before that, I attended a meeting on surgical oncology - the treatment of cancers by surgery. In a session on lung
cancer, with many slides showing cancerous tissue removed from lungs - some postmortem - several people were smoking!

Ask a smoker if he is addicted. Most will deny it.

 

WickeddollŽ wrote:
> "Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote in message
> news:a8ednSr7ioherUHcRVn-oQ@rogers.com...
>
>>Let me light up a cigarette before I read the article. :P
>>
>>The sad part is that smokers (myself included) KNOW that cigarettes have
>>very dire consequences on ones health. Creating yet another study proving
>>that won't help. Educating adolescents is the only solution to smoking,
>>because they are the most vulnerable to peer pressure and other influences.
>>That seems to be the reason behind this study, and I hope it works, because
>>not starting to smoke is so much easier than trying to quit.
>>
>>I think I tried 10 times to quit, including cold turkey, the patch and the
>>chewing gum and nothing worked. The only thing I found reduced the number
>>of cigarettes I smoked was keeping myself busy. My record was 3 cigarettes
>>in one day, and that was because I had to completely reassemble my old
>>Yamaha RZ350 before a trip (I had the engine, carbs, front end, swing arm
>>and brakes rebuilt, and needed to put everything back together).
>>
>>Cosmin
>
>
> I used to think smokers who couldn't quit were just copping out. That was
> until I worked in an OB/Gyn clinic! Those women would be terrified that
> their babies would be affected, but were able to eat right, exercise, and
> everything we told them they needed to do, but often could *not* stop
> smoking. It was then that I realized what a powerful addiction cigarette
> smoking is - wow!
>
> Natalie
>
<snip>
The company I used to work for made medical devices. It had as a consultant a physician from Britain who had a world-wide
reputation in his field. He was a heavy smoker. When I got to know him well enough, I asked him why he smoked, when he
certainly knew the risk. His answer was that he would run blood tests to know when he was about to get cancer, and then
quit. I was certain he knew that there is no such test, and I didn't pursue the matter. Addicts rationalize.

Some time before that, I attended a meeting on surgical oncology - the treatment of cancers by surgery. In a session on lung
cancer, with many slides showing cancerous tissue removed from lungs - some postmortem - several people were smoking!

Ask a smoker if he is addicted. Most will deny it.

 

Marvin wrote:
> WickeddollŽ wrote:
>> "Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote in message
>> news:a8ednSr7ioherUHcRVn-oQ@rogers.com...
>>
>>> Let me light up a cigarette before I read the article. :P
>>>
>>> The sad part is that smokers (myself included) KNOW that cigarettes
>>> have very dire consequences on ones health. Creating yet another study
>>> proving that won't help. Educating adolescents is the only solution to
>>> smoking, because they are the most vulnerable to peer pressure and other
>>> influences. That seems to be the reason behind this study, and I hope it
>>> works,
>>> because not starting to smoke is so much easier than trying to quit.
>>>
>>> I think I tried 10 times to quit, including cold turkey, the patch
>>> and the chewing gum and nothing worked. The only thing I found reduced
>>> the
>>> number of cigarettes I smoked was keeping myself busy. My record was 3
>>> cigarettes in one day, and that was because I had to completely
>>> reassemble my
>>> old Yamaha RZ350 before a trip (I had the engine, carbs, front end,
>>> swing arm and brakes rebuilt, and needed to put everything back
>>> together).
>>>
>>> Cosmin
>>
>>
>> I used to think smokers who couldn't quit were just copping out. That was
>> until I worked in an OB/Gyn clinic! Those women would be terrified
>> that their babies would be affected, but were able to eat right,
>> exercise, and everything we told them they needed to do, but often could
>> *not* stop
>> smoking. It was then that I realized what a powerful addiction
>> cigarette smoking is - wow!
>>
>> Natalie
>>
> <snip>
> The company I used to work for made medical devices. It had as a
> consultant a physician from Britain who had a world-wide reputation
> in his field. He was a heavy smoker. When I got to know him well
> enough, I asked him why he smoked, when he certainly knew the risk. His
> answer was that he would run blood tests to know when he was
> about to get cancer, and then quit. I was certain he knew that there
> is no such test, and I didn't pursue the matter. Addicts
> rationalize.
> Some time before that, I attended a meeting on surgical oncology -
> the treatment of cancers by surgery. In a session on lung cancer,
> with many slides showing cancerous tissue removed from lungs - some
> postmortem - several people were smoking!
> Ask a smoker if he is addicted. Most will deny it.

If the world renown "Body Worlds" exhibit comes to your city, go see it. I
visited the exhibit in Los Angles about 2 months ago. There is on display
some preserved human lungs from healthy and from diseased persons. If that
doesn't get to the smoker .... then he/she must face the fact that they are
a full blown addict to nicotine.

http://www.bodyworlds.com/en/pages/home.asp

http://www.californiasciencecenter.o...BodyWorlds.php

--
~Philip.

 

Marvin wrote:
> WickeddollŽ wrote:
>> "Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote in message
>> news:a8ednSr7ioherUHcRVn-oQ@rogers.com...
>>
>>> Let me light up a cigarette before I read the article. :P
>>>
>>> The sad part is that smokers (myself included) KNOW that cigarettes
>>> have very dire consequences on ones health. Creating yet another study
>>> proving that won't help. Educating adolescents is the only solution to
>>> smoking, because they are the most vulnerable to peer pressure and other
>>> influences. That seems to be the reason behind this study, and I hope it
>>> works,
>>> because not starting to smoke is so much easier than trying to quit.
>>>
>>> I think I tried 10 times to quit, including cold turkey, the patch
>>> and the chewing gum and nothing worked. The only thing I found reduced
>>> the
>>> number of cigarettes I smoked was keeping myself busy. My record was 3
>>> cigarettes in one day, and that was because I had to completely
>>> reassemble my
>>> old Yamaha RZ350 before a trip (I had the engine, carbs, front end,
>>> swing arm and brakes rebuilt, and needed to put everything back
>>> together).
>>>
>>> Cosmin
>>
>>
>> I used to think smokers who couldn't quit were just copping out. That was
>> until I worked in an OB/Gyn clinic! Those women would be terrified
>> that their babies would be affected, but were able to eat right,
>> exercise, and everything we told them they needed to do, but often could
>> *not* stop
>> smoking. It was then that I realized what a powerful addiction
>> cigarette smoking is - wow!
>>
>> Natalie
>>
> <snip>
> The company I used to work for made medical devices. It had as a
> consultant a physician from Britain who had a world-wide reputation
> in his field. He was a heavy smoker. When I got to know him well
> enough, I asked him why he smoked, when he certainly knew the risk. His
> answer was that he would run blood tests to know when he was
> about to get cancer, and then quit. I was certain he knew that there
> is no such test, and I didn't pursue the matter. Addicts
> rationalize.
> Some time before that, I attended a meeting on surgical oncology -
> the treatment of cancers by surgery. In a session on lung cancer,
> with many slides showing cancerous tissue removed from lungs - some
> postmortem - several people were smoking!
> Ask a smoker if he is addicted. Most will deny it.

If the world renown "Body Worlds" exhibit comes to your city, go see it. I
visited the exhibit in Los Angles about 2 months ago. There is on display
some preserved human lungs from healthy and from diseased persons. If that
doesn't get to the smoker .... then he/she must face the fact that they are
a full blown addict to nicotine.

http://www.bodyworlds.com/en/pages/home.asp

http://www.californiasciencecenter.o...BodyWorlds.php

--
~Philip.

 

Marvin wrote:
> Philip wrote:
>> Cigarettes Worse for Air Than Cars
>>
>> Ivanhoe Newswire
>> www.ivanhoe.com
>> September 1, 2004
>>
>> Holy smoke! The air pollution emitted by cigarettes may be 10-times
>> greater than diesel car exhaust.
>
> I'm not defending second-hand tobacco smoke, but deisel engine
> exhaust, especially the kind you can see, is much richer in
> carcinogens.

Keep in mind that in Italy as in the rest of civilized Europe, diesel fuel
is nearly sulfur free (15 parts per billion) compared to America and
especially Canada. Also, diesel cars "over there" have much cleaner
pollution control that light duty pickup trucks here. Context.
--
~Philip.

 

Marvin wrote:
> Philip wrote:
>> Cigarettes Worse for Air Than Cars
>>
>> Ivanhoe Newswire
>> www.ivanhoe.com
>> September 1, 2004
>>
>> Holy smoke! The air pollution emitted by cigarettes may be 10-times
>> greater than diesel car exhaust.
>
> I'm not defending second-hand tobacco smoke, but deisel engine
> exhaust, especially the kind you can see, is much richer in
> carcinogens.

Keep in mind that in Italy as in the rest of civilized Europe, diesel fuel
is nearly sulfur free (15 parts per billion) compared to America and
especially Canada. Also, diesel cars "over there" have much cleaner
pollution control that light duty pickup trucks here. Context.
--
~Philip.

 

On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 09:40:54 -0500, Full_Name <Email@address.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 19:37:22 -0500,
>newsgroups01REMOVEME@intertainia.com wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 18:27:57 -0500, "WickeddollŽ"
>><wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote in message
>>>news:a8ednSr7ioherUHcRVn-oQ@rogers.com...
>>>> Let me light up a cigarette before I read the article. :P
>>>>
>>>> The sad part is that smokers (myself included) KNOW that cigarettes have
>>>> very dire consequences on ones health. Creating yet another study proving
>>>> that won't help. Educating adolescents is the only solution to smoking,
>>>> because they are the most vulnerable to peer pressure and other influences.
>>>> That seems to be the reason behind this study, and I hope it works, because
>>>> not starting to smoke is so much easier than trying to quit.
>>>>
>>>> I think I tried 10 times to quit, including cold turkey, the patch and the
>>>> chewing gum and nothing worked. The only thing I found reduced the number
>>>> of cigarettes I smoked was keeping myself busy. My record was 3 cigarettes
>>>> in one day, and that was because I had to completely reassemble my old
>>>> Yamaha RZ350 before a trip (I had the engine, carbs, front end, swing arm
>>>> and brakes rebuilt, and needed to put everything back together).
>>>>
>>>> Cosmin
>>>
>>>I used to think smokers who couldn't quit were just copping out. That was
>>>until I worked in an OB/Gyn clinic! Those women would be terrified that
>>>their babies would be affected, but were able to eat right, exercise, and
>>>everything we told them they needed to do, but often could *not* stop
>>>smoking. It was then that I realized what a powerful addiction cigarette
>>>smoking is - wow!
>>>
>>>Natalie
>>
>>Sorry to hear that. I tried filters, patches, training programs, but
>>none worked for me. One day, it came down to that I couldn't afford
>>college for my wife, and my 3 pack/day habit. I said I had to quit
>>and I did. I promised myself I would start back up when I could
>>afford it, but that was 10+ years ago. Now with a mortgage and a
>>child, I"m guessing I'll have to remain smoke-free, but I do enjoy the
>>smell now and then.
>>
>>Everyone who says they can't just doesn't want to.
>>
>>imho,
>>
>>tom @ www.ChopURL.com
>
>A different take to help put things in perspective.
>
>My brother a smoker since his teens tried to stop using every method,
>patch, gum, hypnosis, cold turkey 3+ times, behavior modification and
>then Zyban.
>
>Zyban was amazingly effective for him. After the second day on the
>product he couldn't even light up it made him feel so ill. He was so
>happy that he'd finally found something that worked.
>
>It did have some "minor" side effects, he couldn't sleep, felt
>jittery & he had tremors. He was on Zyban for about 2 months before
>he committed suicide at 38 (the first ever in our family). A doctor
>had prescribed Zyban and monitored the dose.
>
>Then there's my wife's aunt.
>
>She smoked from her early teens till she died this past fall at 75.
>she was active, smoked 2 packs a day & her non-smoking husband is
>still alive, active and doing fine. However neither one of them is or
>were overweight.
>
>Tobacco is not healthy. But for some trying to quit may be too much.
>I smoked for a year & then quit. But it was easy for me. Not so for
>others.
>
>
>Using that stat posted in the article I think that it's high time that
>we get the good Diesels here in North America. Including the new 2005
>GTi Turbo Diesel. Ban Fast food & use the cooking oil for the fast
>Turbo Diesel's.
>
>More sub 7 sec 0-60, 140+ MPH Diesels I say !


Just remember, if I person NEEDS a drug to quit smoking, it's usually
because they don't want to stop. Something, family pressure, health,
has made them want to get the drug to stop, so when they get off the
drug, they will go back to smoking.

I've learned this from lossing weight and stopping smoking, it's a
life style change, you want to do it, and want to keep doing it. If
you use a gimic, as soon as that gimic is gone you will reverse right
back to prior to the gimic.

Now all this is in my own observations, but being a good American,
cold-turkey hurts our economy, if you don't want to support the tax
system via smoking(or over eating), then you need to buy highpriced
gimics to keep the money moving.

So, being a victim, makes for a better Americia. :-P

later,

tom @ www.ChopURL.com

 

On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 09:40:54 -0500, Full_Name <Email@address.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 19:37:22 -0500,
>newsgroups01REMOVEME@intertainia.com wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 18:27:57 -0500, "WickeddollŽ"
>><wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote in message
>>>news:a8ednSr7ioherUHcRVn-oQ@rogers.com...
>>>> Let me light up a cigarette before I read the article. :P
>>>>
>>>> The sad part is that smokers (myself included) KNOW that cigarettes have
>>>> very dire consequences on ones health. Creating yet another study proving
>>>> that won't help. Educating adolescents is the only solution to smoking,
>>>> because they are the most vulnerable to peer pressure and other influences.
>>>> That seems to be the reason behind this study, and I hope it works, because
>>>> not starting to smoke is so much easier than trying to quit.
>>>>
>>>> I think I tried 10 times to quit, including cold turkey, the patch and the
>>>> chewing gum and nothing worked. The only thing I found reduced the number
>>>> of cigarettes I smoked was keeping myself busy. My record was 3 cigarettes
>>>> in one day, and that was because I had to completely reassemble my old
>>>> Yamaha RZ350 before a trip (I had the engine, carbs, front end, swing arm
>>>> and brakes rebuilt, and needed to put everything back together).
>>>>
>>>> Cosmin
>>>
>>>I used to think smokers who couldn't quit were just copping out. That was
>>>until I worked in an OB/Gyn clinic! Those women would be terrified that
>>>their babies would be affected, but were able to eat right, exercise, and
>>>everything we told them they needed to do, but often could *not* stop
>>>smoking. It was then that I realized what a powerful addiction cigarette
>>>smoking is - wow!
>>>
>>>Natalie
>>
>>Sorry to hear that. I tried filters, patches, training programs, but
>>none worked for me. One day, it came down to that I couldn't afford
>>college for my wife, and my 3 pack/day habit. I said I had to quit
>>and I did. I promised myself I would start back up when I could
>>afford it, but that was 10+ years ago. Now with a mortgage and a
>>child, I"m guessing I'll have to remain smoke-free, but I do enjoy the
>>smell now and then.
>>
>>Everyone who says they can't just doesn't want to.
>>
>>imho,
>>
>>tom @ www.ChopURL.com
>
>A different take to help put things in perspective.
>
>My brother a smoker since his teens tried to stop using every method,
>patch, gum, hypnosis, cold turkey 3+ times, behavior modification and
>then Zyban.
>
>Zyban was amazingly effective for him. After the second day on the
>product he couldn't even light up it made him feel so ill. He was so
>happy that he'd finally found something that worked.
>
>It did have some "minor" side effects, he couldn't sleep, felt
>jittery & he had tremors. He was on Zyban for about 2 months before
>he committed suicide at 38 (the first ever in our family). A doctor
>had prescribed Zyban and monitored the dose.
>
>Then there's my wife's aunt.
>
>She smoked from her early teens till she died this past fall at 75.
>she was active, smoked 2 packs a day & her non-smoking husband is
>still alive, active and doing fine. However neither one of them is or
>were overweight.
>
>Tobacco is not healthy. But for some trying to quit may be too much.
>I smoked for a year & then quit. But it was easy for me. Not so for
>others.
>
>
>Using that stat posted in the article I think that it's high time that
>we get the good Diesels here in North America. Including the new 2005
>GTi Turbo Diesel. Ban Fast food & use the cooking oil for the fast
>Turbo Diesel's.
>
>More sub 7 sec 0-60, 140+ MPH Diesels I say !


Just remember, if I person NEEDS a drug to quit smoking, it's usually
because they don't want to stop. Something, family pressure, health,
has made them want to get the drug to stop, so when they get off the
drug, they will go back to smoking.

I've learned this from lossing weight and stopping smoking, it's a
life style change, you want to do it, and want to keep doing it. If
you use a gimic, as soon as that gimic is gone you will reverse right
back to prior to the gimic.

Now all this is in my own observations, but being a good American,
cold-turkey hurts our economy, if you don't want to support the tax
system via smoking(or over eating), then you need to buy highpriced
gimics to keep the money moving.

So, being a victim, makes for a better Americia. :-P

later,

tom @ www.ChopURL.com

 

"Jan Kalin" <nobody@noknown.domain> wrote in message
news:slrnctq41r.8v8sr.nobody@oxy.zag.si...
> In article <343bfsF44oeqcU1@individual.net>, WickeddollŽ wrote:
>>
>>"Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote in message
>>news:a8ednSr7ioherUHcRVn-oQ@rogers.com...
>>> Let me light up a cigarette before I read the article. :P
>>>
>>> The sad part is that smokers (myself included) KNOW that cigarettes have
>>> very dire consequences on ones health. Creating yet another study proving
>>> that won't help. Educating adolescents is the only solution to smoking,
>>> because they are the most vulnerable to peer pressure and other
>>> influences.
>>> That seems to be the reason behind this study, and I hope it works,
>>> because
>>> not starting to smoke is so much easier than trying to quit.
>>>
>>> I think I tried 10 times to quit, including cold turkey, the patch and
>>> the
>>> chewing gum and nothing worked. The only thing I found reduced the number
>>> of cigarettes I smoked was keeping myself busy. My record was 3
>>> cigarettes
>>> in one day, and that was because I had to completely reassemble my old
>>> Yamaha RZ350 before a trip (I had the engine, carbs, front end, swing arm
>>> and brakes rebuilt, and needed to put everything back together).
>>>
>>> Cosmin
>>
>>I used to think smokers who couldn't quit were just copping out. That was
>>until I worked in an OB/Gyn clinic! Those women would be terrified that
>>their babies would be affected, but were able to eat right, exercise, and
>>everything we told them they needed to do, but often could *not* stop
>>smoking. It was then that I realized what a powerful addiction cigarette
>>smoking is - wow!
>>
>>Natalie
>
> Yup, nicotine addiction is as powerful as heroin addiction. If anyone is
> interested in this, check out the chapter "Nicotine as an addicting drug"
> http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/...s/cu/CU25.html from "The
> Consumers Union Report - Licit and Illicit Drugs"
> http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/.../cu/cumenu.htm
>
>
> --
> /"\ Jan Kalin

We humans tend to be very susceptible to our temptations.

Natalie

 

"Jan Kalin" <nobody@noknown.domain> wrote in message
news:slrnctq41r.8v8sr.nobody@oxy.zag.si...
> In article <343bfsF44oeqcU1@individual.net>, WickeddollŽ wrote:
>>
>>"Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote in message
>>news:a8ednSr7ioherUHcRVn-oQ@rogers.com...
>>> Let me light up a cigarette before I read the article. :P
>>>
>>> The sad part is that smokers (myself included) KNOW that cigarettes have
>>> very dire consequences on ones health. Creating yet another study proving
>>> that won't help. Educating adolescents is the only solution to smoking,
>>> because they are the most vulnerable to peer pressure and other
>>> influences.
>>> That seems to be the reason behind this study, and I hope it works,
>>> because
>>> not starting to smoke is so much easier than trying to quit.
>>>
>>> I think I tried 10 times to quit, including cold turkey, the patch and
>>> the
>>> chewing gum and nothing worked. The only thing I found reduced the number
>>> of cigarettes I smoked was keeping myself busy. My record was 3
>>> cigarettes
>>> in one day, and that was because I had to completely reassemble my old
>>> Yamaha RZ350 before a trip (I had the engine, carbs, front end, swing arm
>>> and brakes rebuilt, and needed to put everything back together).
>>>
>>> Cosmin
>>
>>I used to think smokers who couldn't quit were just copping out. That was
>>until I worked in an OB/Gyn clinic! Those women would be terrified that
>>their babies would be affected, but were able to eat right, exercise, and
>>everything we told them they needed to do, but often could *not* stop
>>smoking. It was then that I realized what a powerful addiction cigarette
>>smoking is - wow!
>>
>>Natalie
>
> Yup, nicotine addiction is as powerful as heroin addiction. If anyone is
> interested in this, check out the chapter "Nicotine as an addicting drug"
> http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/...s/cu/CU25.html from "The
> Consumers Union Report - Licit and Illicit Drugs"
> http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/.../cu/cumenu.htm
>
>
> --
> /"\ Jan Kalin

We humans tend to be very susceptible to our temptations.

Natalie

 

"Dori A Schmetterling" <ng@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
news:41dd38e8$1$19164$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
> 1) Did this woman lose too much too quickly?
>
Nope, doctor-supervised (at first in a hospital)

> 2) My wife smokes only sporadically and then not much, but I have
> refused to buy her duty-free cigs (I travel a lot) on same grounds.
>
>
> DAS

Back when I was single, I tried to date a smoker, but it was just too
disgusting. I acknowledge their right to smoke, but I just can't have it
around me on a regular basis. And before the secondhand smoke protesters say
they don't believe smoking affects anyone other than the smoker, let me tell
you - even if the FDA said secondhand smoke is actually *good* for us, I'd
still not want that nasty smell around me! And while there's no conclusive
evidence that secondhand smoking causes the same effect of smoking directly,
I certainly have seen evidence of secondhand smoke being harmful to others.
Children of smokers are *way* more likely to have upper respiratory ailments
as a result of irritation of the respiratory mucosa, such as chronic
sinusitis, asthma attacks, etc. I feel sad every time I see a child in a car
with smoke filling the interior. I've seen smoking parents storm out of
doctor's offices in anger when told they're harming their children, rather
than accepting responsibility for their actions. To me it's at least child
neglect, if not out and out abuse to poison the air your children breathe.
No, I don't go up to a car and chastise the smoking parent(s), but I'm...

Natalie, a smoking ****, who will go up to strangers in public places, to
remind them that they're in a no-smoking area
>
> "WickeddollŽ" <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:343ge2F44ep8mU1@individual.net...
> [...]
>> to live. I saw a lady on a documentary who had dropped well over 200
>> pounds. She began to go insane; not from temptation, but because her body
>> reacted as though it were starving! She became psychotic and very ill.
>> She ended up gaining the weight back, and in doing so, regained her
>> sanity. Isn't that
> [...]
>> (She lives in Massachusetts) she'd ask if I'd buy her cigarettes either in
>> NH (They're quite a bit cheaper there) or at Westover AFB in Chicopee, MA.
>> I told her that while I know she won't stop smoking because I refuse to
>> buy them for her, I could not in good conscience do that for her, because
>> that
> [...]
>