JohnDavidHickman@gmail.com wrote in news:1171590577.383348.183860
@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com:

> On Feb 13, 7:56 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> JohnDavidHick...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs.
>>
>> what's the problem?
>>
>> > Just moved to Cali so i
>> > cant get an aftermarket cat.
>>
>> rubbish. aftermarket catalysts are perfectly legal here - if they meet
>> spec.
>>
>> > Dont know if i should take it off and
>> > ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so i can
>> > pass inspection....just dont know.
>>
>> fix the sensors and see what happens first.
>>
>> > i do know that the old cat is
>> > hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent
>>
>> a catalyst cannot hurt the engine.
>
> so i taking the car to a part shop that said they will put on a used
> cat for $250, what do u think?
>


Is it certified?

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On Feb 15, 6:18 pm, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote:
> JohnDavidHick...@gmail.com wrote in news:1171590577.383348.183860
> @s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 13, 7:56 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> >> JohnDavidHick...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs.
>
> >> what's the problem?
>
> >> > Just moved to Cali so i
> >> > cant get an aftermarket cat.
>
> >> rubbish. aftermarket catalysts are perfectly legal here - if they meet
> >> spec.
>
> >> > Dont know if i should take it off and
> >> > ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so i can
> >> > pass inspection....just dont know.
>
> >> fix the sensors and see what happens first.
>
> >> > i do know that the old cat is
> >> > hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent
>
> >> a catalyst cannot hurt the engine.
>
> > so i taking the car to a part shop that said they will put on a used
> > cat for $250, what do u think?
>
> Is it certified?
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/

ive got 105K but i found a guy that would put in a
reconditioned cat for $250. how easy it to just buy the cat off him
and put it in myself?

 

On Feb 15, 6:18 pm, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote:
> JohnDavidHick...@gmail.com wrote in news:1171590577.383348.183860
> @s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 13, 7:56 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> >> JohnDavidHick...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs.
>
> >> what's the problem?
>
> >> > Just moved to Cali so i
> >> > cant get an aftermarket cat.
>
> >> rubbish. aftermarket catalysts are perfectly legal here - if they meet
> >> spec.
>
> >> > Dont know if i should take it off and
> >> > ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so i can
> >> > pass inspection....just dont know.
>
> >> fix the sensors and see what happens first.
>
> >> > i do know that the old cat is
> >> > hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent
>
> >> a catalyst cannot hurt the engine.
>
> > so i taking the car to a part shop that said they will put on a used
> > cat for $250, what do u think?
>
> Is it certified?
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/

oh i didnt see the last comment, well im not sure, i just had a quick
convo with them, but i did ask would it be pass the emissions test,
and they said ya. but tomorrow i will get the full details, thanks man
you've been a great help
johnner

 

JohnDavidHickman@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 15, 6:18 pm, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>> JohnDavidHick...@gmail.com wrote in news:1171590577.383348.183860
>> @s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 13, 7:56 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>>>> JohnDavidHick...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs.
>>>> what's the problem?
>>>>> Just moved to Cali so i
>>>>> cant get an aftermarket cat.
>>>> rubbish. aftermarket catalysts are perfectly legal here - if they meet
>>>> spec.
>>>>> Dont know if i should take it off and
>>>>> ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so i can
>>>>> pass inspection....just dont know.
>>>> fix the sensors and see what happens first.
>>>>> i do know that the old cat is
>>>>> hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent
>>>> a catalyst cannot hurt the engine.
>>> so i taking the car to a part shop that said they will put on a used
>>> cat for $250, what do u think?
>> Is it certified?
>>
>> --
>> Tegger
>>
>> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/
>
> oh i didnt see the last comment, well im not sure, i just had a quick
> convo with them, but i did ask would it be pass the emissions test,
> and they said ya. but tomorrow i will get the full details, thanks man
> you've been a great help
> johnner
>
$250 for a used catalyst??? that's almost the same price as a new
one!!! RUN, don't walk, away from these hosers as fast as you can.
it's most likely it's not a catalyst problem, simply a sensor problem.

get your *** on over to someone that knows about cars, not someone that
wants you to just give them money for nothing.

http://replacement.autopartswarehous...verter&dp=true

 

On Feb 16, 5:35 am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> JohnDavidHick...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Feb 15, 6:18 pm, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote:
> >> JohnDavidHick...@gmail.com wrote in news:1171590577.383348.183860
> >> @s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
>
> >>> On Feb 13, 7:56 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> >>>> JohnDavidHick...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>> i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs.
> >>>> what's the problem?
> >>>>> Just moved to Cali so i
> >>>>> cant get an aftermarket cat.
> >>>> rubbish. aftermarket catalysts are perfectly legal here - if they meet
> >>>> spec.
> >>>>> Dont know if i should take it off and
> >>>>> ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so i can
> >>>>> pass inspection....just dont know.
> >>>> fix the sensors and see what happens first.
> >>>>> i do know that the old cat is
> >>>>> hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent
> >>>> a catalyst cannot hurt the engine.
> >>> so i taking the car to a part shop that said they will put on a used
> >>> cat for $250, what do u think?
> >> Is it certified?
>
> >> --
> >> Tegger
>
> >> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/
>
> > oh i didnt see the last comment, well im not sure, i just had a quick
> > convo with them, but i did ask would it be pass the emissions test,
> > and they said ya. but tomorrow i will get the full details, thanks man
> > you've been a great help
> > johnner
>
> $250 for a used catalyst??? that's almost the same price as a new
> one!!! RUN, don't walk, away from these hosers as fast as you can.
> it's most likely it's not a catalyst problem, simply a sensor problem.
>
> get your *** on over to someone that knows about cars, not someone that
> wants you to just give them money for nothing.
>
> http://replacement.autopartswarehous...tswarehouse/wi...

hummm......thx. i was about to go. i have a feeling it is a cat
problem because i drove around for about 2-3 weeks with a bad o2
sensor. would that have busted the cat up? Does it hurt the engine if
indeed the cat is messed up and i am driving around on it?

thx,
johnner

 

JohnDavidHickman@gmail.com wrote in
news:1171659673.679145.241450@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:


>
> hummm......thx. i was about to go. i have a feeling it is a cat
> problem because i drove around for about 2-3 weeks with a bad o2
> sensor. would that have busted the cat up?



Not very likely. The cat is pretty robust and can handle _quite a lot_ of
excess fuel without permanent damage. It will handle fuel economy as bad as
10mpg without getting wrecked.

The reason your ECM is telling you the cat is bad is because it sees
excessive flip-flopping from the downstream oxygen sensor, which means
excessive oxygen in the gases exiting the cat. No other reason.

If you haven't got an exhaust leak somewhere between the primary sensor and
the cat, and the cat isn't coated with crud, then it's porobably really
bad. Oxygen sensors as a rule do not go bad by becoming MORE sensitive.

A twist: Some models had problems with bad connections to the igniter.
Strangely enough, this resulted in a P0420 error. Honda has issued a TSB on
that. It does not cover your vehicle, though.



> Does it hurt the engine if
> indeed the cat is messed up and i am driving around on it?
>


As jim beam has already said: NO. A bad engine can wreck a cat; a bad
cat can't wreck an engine.




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Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns98D9B5E5F1E63tegger@207.14.116.130:


>
> The reason your ECM is telling you the cat is bad is because it sees
> excessive flip-flopping from the downstream oxygen sensor, which means
> excessive oxygen in the gases exiting the cat. No other reason.
>
> If you haven't got an exhaust leak somewhere between the primary
> sensor and the cat,


Or between the cat and the secondary. A leak there will also introduce
excessive oxygen.



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