On Feb 13, 4:52 pm, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote:
> JohnDavidHick...@gmail.com wrote innews:1171412254.876849.12720@l53g2000cwa.googleg roups.com:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 13, 2:43 pm, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote:
> >> JohnDavidHick...@gmail.com wrote in news:1171405287.697855.162790
> >> @p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> > i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs. Just moved to Cali so
> >> > i cant get an aftermarket cat. Dont know if i should take it off
> >> > and ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so
> >> > i can pass inspection....just dont know. i do know that the old cat
> >> > is hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent
>
> >> What's the specific problem?
>
> > its throwing the check engine light code for catalytic converter
>
> SO... What's the code?
> P0420?
> P1245657890?
> Cough it up.
>
> When did this start?
> Did you replace the secondary O2 sensor or the primary?
> Why was the O2 sensor replaced?
> Has anyone checked for exhaust system leaks, cracked exhaust manifold?
>
> > because i took too long replacing the o2 sensor.
>
> How do you know that's the reason? And which sensor? What was the actual
> code?
>
> > i am not sure of the
> > specific problem,
>
> Then you are embarking on an expensive experiment that may lead you
> absolutely nowhere except to a thinner wallet.
>
> > so i am wondering, what would be the best course of
> > action: 1) take my cat conv off until inspection? (would it hurt my
> > engine, would i get pulled over, etc.) 2) also i was thinking about
> > taking my car into a local cat shop but they dont do the labor for
> > taking it off, so i also need to know how to take the cat off.
>
> Jeez, before you go running yourself directly into the nearest brick
> wall, HELP US HELP YOU. This means giving DETAILS.
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/

word. may take a few--i'll get the info.
thx

 

On Feb 13, 4:52 pm, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote:
> JohnDavidHick...@gmail.com wrote innews:1171412254.876849.12720@l53g2000cwa.googleg roups.com:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 13, 2:43 pm, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote:
> >> JohnDavidHick...@gmail.com wrote in news:1171405287.697855.162790
> >> @p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> > i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs. Just moved to Cali so
> >> > i cant get an aftermarket cat. Dont know if i should take it off
> >> > and ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so
> >> > i can pass inspection....just dont know. i do know that the old cat
> >> > is hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent
>
> >> What's the specific problem?
>
> > its throwing the check engine light code for catalytic converter
>
> SO... What's the code?
> P0420?
> P1245657890?
> Cough it up.
>
> When did this start?
> Did you replace the secondary O2 sensor or the primary?
> Why was the O2 sensor replaced?
> Has anyone checked for exhaust system leaks, cracked exhaust manifold?
>
> > because i took too long replacing the o2 sensor.
>
> How do you know that's the reason? And which sensor? What was the actual
> code?
>
> > i am not sure of the
> > specific problem,
>
> Then you are embarking on an expensive experiment that may lead you
> absolutely nowhere except to a thinner wallet.
>
> > so i am wondering, what would be the best course of
> > action: 1) take my cat conv off until inspection? (would it hurt my
> > engine, would i get pulled over, etc.) 2) also i was thinking about
> > taking my car into a local cat shop but they dont do the labor for
> > taking it off, so i also need to know how to take the cat off.
>
> Jeez, before you go running yourself directly into the nearest brick
> wall, HELP US HELP YOU. This means giving DETAILS.
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/

word. may take a few--i'll get the info.
thx

 

<JohnDavidHickman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171405287.697855.162790@p10g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com...
>i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs. Just moved to Cali so i
> cant get an aftermarket cat. Dont know if i should take it off and
> ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so i can
> pass inspection....just dont know. i do know that the old cat is
> hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent
>
> thx,
> Johnner

Depending on your mileage, it might be covered under your
emissions warrenty, take it to the dealer and have him check..
Your talking about a $1000, asking won't hurt!>

 

<JohnDavidHickman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171405287.697855.162790@p10g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com...
>i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs. Just moved to Cali so i
> cant get an aftermarket cat. Dont know if i should take it off and
> ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so i can
> pass inspection....just dont know. i do know that the old cat is
> hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent
>
> thx,
> Johnner

Depending on your mileage, it might be covered under your
emissions warrenty, take it to the dealer and have him check..
Your talking about a $1000, asking won't hurt!>

 

<JohnDavidHickman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171405287.697855.162790@p10g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com...
>i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs. Just moved to Cali so i
> cant get an aftermarket cat. Dont know if i should take it off and
> ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so i can
> pass inspection....just dont know. i do know that the old cat is
> hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent
>
> thx,
> Johnner

Depending on your mileage, it might be covered under your
emissions warrenty, take it to the dealer and have him check..
Your talking about a $1000, asking won't hurt!>

 

<JohnDavidHickman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171405287.697855.162790@p10g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com...
>i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs. Just moved to Cali so i
> cant get an aftermarket cat. Dont know if i should take it off and
> ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so i can
> pass inspection....just dont know. i do know that the old cat is
> hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent
>
> thx,
> Johnner

Depending on your mileage, it might be covered under your
emissions warrenty, take it to the dealer and have him check..
Your talking about a $1000, asking won't hurt!>

 

JohnDavidHickman@gmail.com wrote:
> i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs.

what's the problem?

> Just moved to Cali so i
> cant get an aftermarket cat.

rubbish. aftermarket catalysts are perfectly legal here - if they meet
spec.

> Dont know if i should take it off and
> ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so i can
> pass inspection....just dont know.

fix the sensors and see what happens first.

> i do know that the old cat is
> hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent

a catalyst cannot hurt the engine.

 

JohnDavidHickman@gmail.com wrote:
> i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs.

what's the problem?

> Just moved to Cali so i
> cant get an aftermarket cat.

rubbish. aftermarket catalysts are perfectly legal here - if they meet
spec.

> Dont know if i should take it off and
> ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so i can
> pass inspection....just dont know.

fix the sensors and see what happens first.

> i do know that the old cat is
> hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent

a catalyst cannot hurt the engine.

 

JohnDavidHickman@gmail.com wrote:
> i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs.

what's the problem?

> Just moved to Cali so i
> cant get an aftermarket cat.

rubbish. aftermarket catalysts are perfectly legal here - if they meet
spec.

> Dont know if i should take it off and
> ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so i can
> pass inspection....just dont know.

fix the sensors and see what happens first.

> i do know that the old cat is
> hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent

a catalyst cannot hurt the engine.

 

JohnDavidHickman@gmail.com wrote:
> i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs.

what's the problem?

> Just moved to Cali so i
> cant get an aftermarket cat.

rubbish. aftermarket catalysts are perfectly legal here - if they meet
spec.

> Dont know if i should take it off and
> ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so i can
> pass inspection....just dont know.

fix the sensors and see what happens first.

> i do know that the old cat is
> hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent

a catalyst cannot hurt the engine.

 

On Feb 13, 6:35 pm, JohnDavidHick...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 13, 4:52 pm, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>
>
>
> > JohnDavidHick...@gmail.com wrote innews:1171412254.876849.12720@l53g2000cwa.googleg roups.com:
>
> > > On Feb 13, 2:43 pm, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote:
> > >> JohnDavidHick...@gmail.com wrote in news:1171405287.697855.162790
> > >> @p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:
>
> > >> > i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs. Just moved to Cali so
> > >> > i cant get an aftermarket cat. Dont know if i should take it off
> > >> > and ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so
> > >> > i can pass inspection....just dont know. i do know that the old cat
> > >> > is hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent
>
> > >> What's the specific problem?
>
> > > its throwing the check engine light code forcatalyticconverter
>
> > SO... What's the code?
> > P0420?
> > P1245657890?
> > Cough it up.
>
> > When did this start?
> > Did you replace the secondary O2 sensor or the primary?
> > Why was the O2 sensor replaced?
> > Has anyone checked for exhaust system leaks, cracked exhaust manifold?
>
> > > because i took too long replacing the o2 sensor.
>
> > How do you know that's the reason? And which sensor? What was the actual
> > code?
>
> > > i am not sure of the
> > > specific problem,
>
> > Then you are embarking on an expensive experiment that may lead you
> > absolutely nowhere except to a thinner wallet.
>
> > > so i am wondering, what would be the best course of
> > > action: 1) take my cat conv off until inspection? (would it hurt my
> > > engine, would i get pulled over, etc.) 2) also i was thinking about
> > > taking my car into a local cat shop but they dont do the labor for
> > > taking it off, so i also need to know how to take the cat off.
>
> > Jeez, before you go running yourself directly into the nearest brick
> > wall, HELP US HELP YOU. This means giving DETAILS.
>
> > --
> > Tegger
>
> > The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/
>
> word. may take a few--i'll get the info.
> thx

ok. the code is P0420.

 

On Feb 13, 6:57 pm, "Andy & Carol" <a...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> <JohnDavidHick...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1171405287.697855.162790@p10g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com...
>
> >i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs. Just moved to Cali so i
> > cant get an aftermarket cat. Dont know if i should take it off and
> > ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so i can
> > pass inspection....just dont know. i do know that the old cat is
> > hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent
>
> > thx,
> > Johnner
>
> Depending on your mileage, it might be covered under your
> emissions warrenty, take it to the dealer and have him check..
> Your talking about a $1000, asking won't hurt!>

its got 105K

 

On Feb 13, 7:56 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> JohnDavidHick...@gmail.com wrote:
> > i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs.
>
> what's the problem?
>
> > Just moved to Cali so i
> > cant get an aftermarket cat.
>
> rubbish. aftermarket catalysts are perfectly legal here - if they meet
> spec.
>
> > Dont know if i should take it off and
> > ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so i can
> > pass inspection....just dont know.
>
> fix the sensors and see what happens first.
>
> > i do know that the old cat is
> > hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent
>
> a catalyst cannot hurt the engine.

 

On Feb 13, 7:56 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> JohnDavidHick...@gmail.com wrote:
> > i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs.
>
> what's the problem?
>
> > Just moved to Cali so i
> > cant get an aftermarket cat.
>
> rubbish. aftermarket catalysts are perfectly legal here - if they meet
> spec.
>
> > Dont know if i should take it off and
> > ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so i can
> > pass inspection....just dont know.
>
> fix the sensors and see what happens first.
>
> > i do know that the old cat is
> > hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent
>
> a catalyst cannot hurt the engine.

so i taking the car to a part shop that said they will put on a used
cat for $250, what do u think?

 

JohnDavidHickman@gmail.com wrote in
news:1171590351.201066.270980@a34g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com:


>
> ok. the code is P0420.
>


"Cat efficiency below threshold".

This error _may_ in fact be due to degradation of the cat. However...

Surely you are aware that you are covered under a Federal EPA warranty for
eight years or 80,000 miles for the cat? If you are under 80K and the cat
is original, you are in line for a new FREE cat! Bingo bango, we have a
winner! See your local Honda dealer.

If you're out of the Federal warranty, see here for some other suggestions:
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/p0420.html

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/