On 09/29/2009 08:11 PM, Elle wrote:
> jim beam<m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>> example: honda crx.
>> here in the san francsico bay area, kbb has a 91 crx si is listed as
>> $2130 for "excellent condition". �what an utter crock! � a real "street"
>> price of that vehicle in good shape is $4k - $6k. �i've seen people
>> selling non-rolling crx shells here on craigslist for $1500. �and i have
>> personally witnessed people outside a seller's door waving $100 bills
>> and bidding the price of for-sale crx's up to 2 or 3x asking.
>>
>> bottom line - consider whose interests kbb pricing may serve. �and
>> consider how they get their "data".
>
> First I'd have to consider how you get your data, the paucity of it,
> whether what you are talking about is ricers, etc. ;-)
>

ricers aren't buyers/sellers?

 

"Elle" <honda.lioness@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:373440f4-8ddb-4486-9c00-2be6d7b7879f@r36g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
> Is there anyone with either carfax.com or autocheck.com service right
> now that could run one check for me? Please email me. I will pass your
> favor along to someone else somehow. Thank you.

If you still think that carfax is the way to go, here is a link to cbc's
marketplace episode on used vehicle purchasing.

http://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/2009/v...orts/main.html

My own personal preference is to ask the dealer for a test drive, take the
car home and do the fine tooth comb thing.

 

On Sep 29, 9:32 pm, jim beam <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
Elle wrote
> > First I'd have to consider how you get your data, the paucity of it,
> > whether what you are talking about is ricers, etc. ;-)
>
> ricers aren't buyers/sellers?

I am suggesting that your anecdotal "sample" may very well consist
overwhelmingly of ricers. If your sample is mostly ricers', then IMO
it needs to be acknowledged that ricers' goals are different from
someone who prefers stock and/or wants a reliable daily driver.

 

On 09/30/2009 07:02 AM, Elle wrote:
> On Sep 29, 9:32�pm, jim beam<m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> Elle wrote
>>> First I'd have to consider how you get your data, the paucity of it,
>>> whether what you are talking about is ricers, etc. �;-)
>>
>> ricers aren't buyers/sellers?
>
> I am suggesting that your anecdotal "sample" may very well consist
> overwhelmingly of ricers. If your sample is mostly ricers', then IMO
> it needs to be acknowledged that ricers' goals are different from
> someone who prefers stock and/or wants a reliable daily driver.


compare kbb with this:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/cto/1392409597.html
that's not "rice".

and that's a stock automatic. try an si in the same condition
hereabouts and see what you get.

 

In article <k9udnZo5KdvT71zXnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> ,
jim beam <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>On 09/28/2009 06:26 AM, Elle wrote:
>> or (2) odometer tampering;
>
>what does that really matter? inspection will show if the vehicle has
>been properly maintained. you only need one careless...

It is a little hard to do proper maintenance by the schedule if the
odometer is incorrect.

>> or (3) a salvage
>> vehicle.
>
>fyi, my crx is salvage. the one prior lady owner had turned it in for
>the $600 california dmv clunker fee, and the junkyard wheeled it into
>their "whole vehicles" pound, then immediately sold it to me for $1000.
> the vehicle is all original, excellent condition [apart from paint
>because it lived outside], and well maintained. it's straighter than a
>vehicle damaged on the dealer's lot and repaired before first
>registration. but it's "salvage" because it had been de-registered.

Knowing WHEN a salvage title vehicle was given a salvage title is
useful. If the car was old and cheap when it was given a salvage
title (like your car), then it may not be much of a concern (even
minor cosmetic damage can cause an insurance company to declare such
a cheap vehicle to be a "total loss"). But if the car was fairly
new and valuable when it was given a salvage title, that is much more
of a concern.

In any case, a title / registration history like Carfax or Autocheck
will not tell you if a car is good. But it will tell you if a car has
a title problem that warrants either extra suspicion beyond the usual
suspicion one gives any used car, or if it is just not worth bothering
to go look at it at all.

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