Gordon McGrew wrote:

> WARNING WILL ROBINSON!!
> BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING!!
>
> Just got an official reply to my nice little letter to the president
> of Mitsubishi, asking him to honor my warranty claim.
>
> Here's part of the letter from the customer connections manager:
>
> "It is our determination that the damage done to your vehicle was
> directly related to the use of your vehicle for racing. Your website
> posts times, location, and duration of contests."*
>
> I never told them I had a website, so this confirms all the rumors
> we've been hearing that Mitsubishi monitors our activities, at tracks
> and on the Web.

I think my next reply to Mitsubishi would be to request their proof that
the car in question was actually involved in racing itself, including
identifiable video or photos showing the VIN plate...

 

Gordon McGrew wrote:

> 2. If you road race, drag race, autocross, or indulge in any other
> motorsport, be aware that Mitsubishi observes some of these events in
> person, and notes what Mitsu vehicles are competing.
>
> 3. If you communicate on our discussion groups, better get an alias.
> Big
> Brother is watching this forum and all other lists. They identify us
> by

Maybe time to use cars for transportation (what they're really all
about) and not racing.

 

Gordon McGrew wrote:

> 2. If you road race, drag race, autocross, or indulge in any other
> motorsport, be aware that Mitsubishi observes some of these events in
> person, and notes what Mitsu vehicles are competing.
>
> 3. If you communicate on our discussion groups, better get an alias.
> Big
> Brother is watching this forum and all other lists. They identify us
> by

Maybe time to use cars for transportation (what they're really all
about) and not racing.

 

Gordon McGrew wrote:

> 2. If you road race, drag race, autocross, or indulge in any other
> motorsport, be aware that Mitsubishi observes some of these events in
> person, and notes what Mitsu vehicles are competing.
>
> 3. If you communicate on our discussion groups, better get an alias.
> Big
> Brother is watching this forum and all other lists. They identify us
> by

Maybe time to use cars for transportation (what they're really all
about) and not racing.

 

Gordon McGrew wrote:
> On 20 Jun 2006 21:40:36 -0700, "Body Roll" <aglyport@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Gordon McGrew wrote:
>>
>>>On 19 Jun 2006 21:07:06 -0700, "Body Roll" <aglyport@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I recall an article (WSJ?) on how some car companies (and I think
>>>Mitsubishi was specifically mentioned) would take note of participants
>>>in all racing events down to the autocross level and deny any warranty
>>>claims based on participation.
>>
>>that's fine. I have no money to blow on the track/autocross anyway.
>>and i haven't heard many horror stories about evo reliability.
>>do you have links?
>
>
>
>
> Well, this is what I found with a Google search:
>
> This is from a defunct web page:
>
> http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache...s&ct=clnk&cd=3
>
> WARNING WILL ROBINSON!!
> BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING!!
>
> Just got an official reply to my nice little letter to the president
> of
> Mitsubishi, asking him to honor my warranty claim.
>
> Here's part of the letter from the customer connections manager:
>
> "It is our determination that the damage done to your vehicle was
> directly
> related to the use of your vehicle for racing. Your website posts
> times,
> location, and duration of contests."*
>
> I never told them I had a website, so this confirms all the rumors
> we've
> been hearing that Mitsubishi monitors our activities, at tracks and on
> the
> Web.
>
> My advice to all of you is:
>
> 1. Do not ever buy a new car with a Mitsubishi warranty. If you want
> an
> Evo or a Lancer or whatever, buy it used from a General Motors dealer,
> and
> then purchase the GM aftermarket warranty. GM's warranty is the best
> in the
> business.
>
> 2. If you road race, drag race, autocross, or indulge in any other
> motorsport, be aware that Mitsubishi observes some of these events in
> person, and notes what Mitsu vehicles are competing.
>
> 3. If you communicate on our discussion groups, better get an alias.
> Big
> Brother is watching this forum and all other lists. They identify us
> by
> name, car, etc., and use the information to deny warranty claims.
> Rumors
> have been flying that they deny ALL claims, not just on equipment that
> could possibly be damaged by racing.
>
they have to prove it. just 'cos you raced a mitsu doesn't mean it's
the same vehicle as affected by a warranty issue. heck, if you're a
mitsu fan, you'll have two or three of them, one for towing the racer to
events, one for the wife, etc. denial based on "inconclusive" web
browsing is a try-on. and they know it. don't take "no" for an answer.
you have rights in this matter. exercise them.

 

Gordon McGrew wrote:
> On 20 Jun 2006 21:40:36 -0700, "Body Roll" <aglyport@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Gordon McGrew wrote:
>>
>>>On 19 Jun 2006 21:07:06 -0700, "Body Roll" <aglyport@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I recall an article (WSJ?) on how some car companies (and I think
>>>Mitsubishi was specifically mentioned) would take note of participants
>>>in all racing events down to the autocross level and deny any warranty
>>>claims based on participation.
>>
>>that's fine. I have no money to blow on the track/autocross anyway.
>>and i haven't heard many horror stories about evo reliability.
>>do you have links?
>
>
>
>
> Well, this is what I found with a Google search:
>
> This is from a defunct web page:
>
> http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache...s&ct=clnk&cd=3
>
> WARNING WILL ROBINSON!!
> BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING!!
>
> Just got an official reply to my nice little letter to the president
> of
> Mitsubishi, asking him to honor my warranty claim.
>
> Here's part of the letter from the customer connections manager:
>
> "It is our determination that the damage done to your vehicle was
> directly
> related to the use of your vehicle for racing. Your website posts
> times,
> location, and duration of contests."*
>
> I never told them I had a website, so this confirms all the rumors
> we've
> been hearing that Mitsubishi monitors our activities, at tracks and on
> the
> Web.
>
> My advice to all of you is:
>
> 1. Do not ever buy a new car with a Mitsubishi warranty. If you want
> an
> Evo or a Lancer or whatever, buy it used from a General Motors dealer,
> and
> then purchase the GM aftermarket warranty. GM's warranty is the best
> in the
> business.
>
> 2. If you road race, drag race, autocross, or indulge in any other
> motorsport, be aware that Mitsubishi observes some of these events in
> person, and notes what Mitsu vehicles are competing.
>
> 3. If you communicate on our discussion groups, better get an alias.
> Big
> Brother is watching this forum and all other lists. They identify us
> by
> name, car, etc., and use the information to deny warranty claims.
> Rumors
> have been flying that they deny ALL claims, not just on equipment that
> could possibly be damaged by racing.
>
they have to prove it. just 'cos you raced a mitsu doesn't mean it's
the same vehicle as affected by a warranty issue. heck, if you're a
mitsu fan, you'll have two or three of them, one for towing the racer to
events, one for the wife, etc. denial based on "inconclusive" web
browsing is a try-on. and they know it. don't take "no" for an answer.
you have rights in this matter. exercise them.

 

Gordon McGrew wrote:
> On 20 Jun 2006 21:40:36 -0700, "Body Roll" <aglyport@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Gordon McGrew wrote:
>>
>>>On 19 Jun 2006 21:07:06 -0700, "Body Roll" <aglyport@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I recall an article (WSJ?) on how some car companies (and I think
>>>Mitsubishi was specifically mentioned) would take note of participants
>>>in all racing events down to the autocross level and deny any warranty
>>>claims based on participation.
>>
>>that's fine. I have no money to blow on the track/autocross anyway.
>>and i haven't heard many horror stories about evo reliability.
>>do you have links?
>
>
>
>
> Well, this is what I found with a Google search:
>
> This is from a defunct web page:
>
> http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache...s&ct=clnk&cd=3
>
> WARNING WILL ROBINSON!!
> BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING!!
>
> Just got an official reply to my nice little letter to the president
> of
> Mitsubishi, asking him to honor my warranty claim.
>
> Here's part of the letter from the customer connections manager:
>
> "It is our determination that the damage done to your vehicle was
> directly
> related to the use of your vehicle for racing. Your website posts
> times,
> location, and duration of contests."*
>
> I never told them I had a website, so this confirms all the rumors
> we've
> been hearing that Mitsubishi monitors our activities, at tracks and on
> the
> Web.
>
> My advice to all of you is:
>
> 1. Do not ever buy a new car with a Mitsubishi warranty. If you want
> an
> Evo or a Lancer or whatever, buy it used from a General Motors dealer,
> and
> then purchase the GM aftermarket warranty. GM's warranty is the best
> in the
> business.
>
> 2. If you road race, drag race, autocross, or indulge in any other
> motorsport, be aware that Mitsubishi observes some of these events in
> person, and notes what Mitsu vehicles are competing.
>
> 3. If you communicate on our discussion groups, better get an alias.
> Big
> Brother is watching this forum and all other lists. They identify us
> by
> name, car, etc., and use the information to deny warranty claims.
> Rumors
> have been flying that they deny ALL claims, not just on equipment that
> could possibly be damaged by racing.
>
they have to prove it. just 'cos you raced a mitsu doesn't mean it's
the same vehicle as affected by a warranty issue. heck, if you're a
mitsu fan, you'll have two or three of them, one for towing the racer to
events, one for the wife, etc. denial based on "inconclusive" web
browsing is a try-on. and they know it. don't take "no" for an answer.
you have rights in this matter. exercise them.

 

Alan Browne wrote:
> Gordon McGrew wrote:
>
> > 2. If you road race, drag race, autocross, or indulge in any other
> > motorsport, be aware that Mitsubishi observes some of these events in
> > person, and notes what Mitsu vehicles are competing.
> >
> > 3. If you communicate on our discussion groups, better get an alias.
> > Big
> > Brother is watching this forum and all other lists. They identify us
> > by
>
> Maybe time to use cars for transportation (what they're really all
> about) and not racing.

Maybe not. But if I were Mitsubishi I would not want to pay for any
repairs on a car that was raced. Racing = rapid wear and tear.
Why should they cover it? I think every car maker has explicit
statements in the warranty saying that racing equals automatic
cancellation of a warranty. If you race $30k car you'd better have
cash to pay for all repairs out of pocket or race something cheaper.
Period.

 

Alan Browne wrote:
> Gordon McGrew wrote:
>
> > 2. If you road race, drag race, autocross, or indulge in any other
> > motorsport, be aware that Mitsubishi observes some of these events in
> > person, and notes what Mitsu vehicles are competing.
> >
> > 3. If you communicate on our discussion groups, better get an alias.
> > Big
> > Brother is watching this forum and all other lists. They identify us
> > by
>
> Maybe time to use cars for transportation (what they're really all
> about) and not racing.

Maybe not. But if I were Mitsubishi I would not want to pay for any
repairs on a car that was raced. Racing = rapid wear and tear.
Why should they cover it? I think every car maker has explicit
statements in the warranty saying that racing equals automatic
cancellation of a warranty. If you race $30k car you'd better have
cash to pay for all repairs out of pocket or race something cheaper.
Period.

 

Alan Browne wrote:
> Gordon McGrew wrote:
>
> > 2. If you road race, drag race, autocross, or indulge in any other
> > motorsport, be aware that Mitsubishi observes some of these events in
> > person, and notes what Mitsu vehicles are competing.
> >
> > 3. If you communicate on our discussion groups, better get an alias.
> > Big
> > Brother is watching this forum and all other lists. They identify us
> > by
>
> Maybe time to use cars for transportation (what they're really all
> about) and not racing.

Maybe not. But if I were Mitsubishi I would not want to pay for any
repairs on a car that was raced. Racing = rapid wear and tear.
Why should they cover it? I think every car maker has explicit
statements in the warranty saying that racing equals automatic
cancellation of a warranty. If you race $30k car you'd better have
cash to pay for all repairs out of pocket or race something cheaper.
Period.