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Re: buying recommendation 94 Accord LX Wagon
I just went for an inspection on the 94 Accord LX Wagon at a Honda
Dealership. Here is a list of the major items found and their quoted repair costs: Left Outer CV Boot ($150) Right Axle Assembly (shaft) ($250) Right Outer Tie Rod End Loose ($50 or $150 (can't read quote)) Brakes: Front Brake Pads 3mm Rear Brake Pads 7mm The dealer says front brakes need to be replaced pretty quick, while rear brakes may last a bit. Other Items should be replaced: New Dome Light Bulb Wiper Blades Battery Air Filter Muffler (owner says it's under warranty and she can have it replaced for me for free) They said the front right pull is due to the loose Front Right Tie Rod. After fixing the Tie Rod, they said an alignment would be necessary. I guess that is $100 or so. I am trying to get quotes from different shops on repairs. One shop quoted %$500 to $600 on the Timing Belt. But with the Timing Belt and the other problems, looks like I might need to spend at least $800. The owner lowered her price to $3600. I think she should go lower though. Edmunds lists Private Party True Market Value at $3697. To what degree are these repairs accounted for in the Edmunds price? Any suggestions on a fair price to pay considering the repairs? Elle wrote: > "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote > > <webmaster@tfy.com> wrote > >> The car pulls a little to the right when I was on the > >> expressway. The > >> steering wheel seems to be a little cockeyed to the > >> right. Is that a > >> big problem? > > > > May need some suspension renovation, followed by an > > alignment. > > Forgot to add: Make sure the mechanic looks at the big > trailing arm bushings. There are two, on the rear. The cost > is over $300 (labor and parts) to replace them with OEM > ones. > > It's not necessarily critical to replace ones that look beat > up. But handling will certainly be better, by all reports > here. (I replace my 91 Civic's next week. They're way > overdue.) If they look really bad, consider negotiating this > into the price. |
Re: buying recommendation 94 Accord LX Wagon
Obviously the repairs can be done cheaper with an independent repair
facility. Edmunds allows for you to factor the mileage and the condition of the car to give you the fair market price. When I sold my wife's the exterior was in very good condition and the only issues with it were the fuel guage didn't work and the antennae would not retract. $3600 including the items you have listed is too high. I believe the timing belt should have been replaced at 60,000 miles as opposed to 100,000 which is common today but don't quote me on that. Not having seen the car, I would subtract the $1000 in repairs the dealer quoted from her original asking price or offer what Edmunds says the value is for fair condition. When she balks at the $2900 offer ask what she will seriously take considering the repair work that is needed. Then go from there. If it were me I wouldn't spend less than $3200 but I would do the brakes and other minor repairs myself and leave the boot, tie rod end, & axle assembly to a repair shop as I don't have the tools needed and haven't attempted those repairs before. <webmaster@tfy.com> wrote in message news:1150764487.194363.271250@u72g2000cwu.googlegr oups.com... >I just went for an inspection on the 94 Accord LX Wagon at a Honda > Dealership. > > Here is a list of the major items found and their quoted repair costs: > > Left Outer CV Boot ($150) > Right Axle Assembly (shaft) ($250) > Right Outer Tie Rod End Loose ($50 or $150 (can't read quote)) > > Brakes: > Front Brake Pads 3mm > Rear Brake Pads 7mm > The dealer says front brakes need to be replaced pretty quick, while > rear brakes may last a bit. > > > Other Items should be replaced: > New Dome Light Bulb > Wiper Blades > Battery > Air Filter > Muffler (owner says it's under warranty and she can have it replaced > for me for free) > > They said the front right pull is due to the loose Front Right Tie Rod. > After fixing the Tie Rod, they said an alignment would be necessary. I > guess that is $100 or so. > > I am trying to get quotes from different shops on repairs. One shop > quoted %$500 to $600 on the Timing Belt. > > But with the Timing Belt and the other problems, looks like I might > need to spend at least $800. > > The owner lowered her price to $3600. I think she should go lower > though. > > Edmunds lists Private Party True Market Value at $3697. To what degree > are these repairs accounted for in the Edmunds price? Any suggestions > on a fair price to pay considering the repairs? > > > Elle wrote: >> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote >> > <webmaster@tfy.com> wrote >> >> The car pulls a little to the right when I was on the >> >> expressway. The >> >> steering wheel seems to be a little cockeyed to the >> >> right. Is that a >> >> big problem? >> > >> > May need some suspension renovation, followed by an >> > alignment. >> >> Forgot to add: Make sure the mechanic looks at the big >> trailing arm bushings. There are two, on the rear. The cost >> is over $300 (labor and parts) to replace them with OEM >> ones. >> >> It's not necessarily critical to replace ones that look beat >> up. But handling will certainly be better, by all reports >> here. (I replace my 91 Civic's next week. They're way >> overdue.) If they look really bad, consider negotiating this >> into the price. > |
Re: buying recommendation 94 Accord LX Wagon
Obviously the repairs can be done cheaper with an independent repair
facility. Edmunds allows for you to factor the mileage and the condition of the car to give you the fair market price. When I sold my wife's the exterior was in very good condition and the only issues with it were the fuel guage didn't work and the antennae would not retract. $3600 including the items you have listed is too high. I believe the timing belt should have been replaced at 60,000 miles as opposed to 100,000 which is common today but don't quote me on that. Not having seen the car, I would subtract the $1000 in repairs the dealer quoted from her original asking price or offer what Edmunds says the value is for fair condition. When she balks at the $2900 offer ask what she will seriously take considering the repair work that is needed. Then go from there. If it were me I wouldn't spend less than $3200 but I would do the brakes and other minor repairs myself and leave the boot, tie rod end, & axle assembly to a repair shop as I don't have the tools needed and haven't attempted those repairs before. <webmaster@tfy.com> wrote in message news:1150764487.194363.271250@u72g2000cwu.googlegr oups.com... >I just went for an inspection on the 94 Accord LX Wagon at a Honda > Dealership. > > Here is a list of the major items found and their quoted repair costs: > > Left Outer CV Boot ($150) > Right Axle Assembly (shaft) ($250) > Right Outer Tie Rod End Loose ($50 or $150 (can't read quote)) > > Brakes: > Front Brake Pads 3mm > Rear Brake Pads 7mm > The dealer says front brakes need to be replaced pretty quick, while > rear brakes may last a bit. > > > Other Items should be replaced: > New Dome Light Bulb > Wiper Blades > Battery > Air Filter > Muffler (owner says it's under warranty and she can have it replaced > for me for free) > > They said the front right pull is due to the loose Front Right Tie Rod. > After fixing the Tie Rod, they said an alignment would be necessary. I > guess that is $100 or so. > > I am trying to get quotes from different shops on repairs. One shop > quoted %$500 to $600 on the Timing Belt. > > But with the Timing Belt and the other problems, looks like I might > need to spend at least $800. > > The owner lowered her price to $3600. I think she should go lower > though. > > Edmunds lists Private Party True Market Value at $3697. To what degree > are these repairs accounted for in the Edmunds price? Any suggestions > on a fair price to pay considering the repairs? > > > Elle wrote: >> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote >> > <webmaster@tfy.com> wrote >> >> The car pulls a little to the right when I was on the >> >> expressway. The >> >> steering wheel seems to be a little cockeyed to the >> >> right. Is that a >> >> big problem? >> > >> > May need some suspension renovation, followed by an >> > alignment. >> >> Forgot to add: Make sure the mechanic looks at the big >> trailing arm bushings. There are two, on the rear. The cost >> is over $300 (labor and parts) to replace them with OEM >> ones. >> >> It's not necessarily critical to replace ones that look beat >> up. But handling will certainly be better, by all reports >> here. (I replace my 91 Civic's next week. They're way >> overdue.) If they look really bad, consider negotiating this >> into the price. > |
Re: buying recommendation 94 Accord LX Wagon
Obviously the repairs can be done cheaper with an independent repair
facility. Edmunds allows for you to factor the mileage and the condition of the car to give you the fair market price. When I sold my wife's the exterior was in very good condition and the only issues with it were the fuel guage didn't work and the antennae would not retract. $3600 including the items you have listed is too high. I believe the timing belt should have been replaced at 60,000 miles as opposed to 100,000 which is common today but don't quote me on that. Not having seen the car, I would subtract the $1000 in repairs the dealer quoted from her original asking price or offer what Edmunds says the value is for fair condition. When she balks at the $2900 offer ask what she will seriously take considering the repair work that is needed. Then go from there. If it were me I wouldn't spend less than $3200 but I would do the brakes and other minor repairs myself and leave the boot, tie rod end, & axle assembly to a repair shop as I don't have the tools needed and haven't attempted those repairs before. <webmaster@tfy.com> wrote in message news:1150764487.194363.271250@u72g2000cwu.googlegr oups.com... >I just went for an inspection on the 94 Accord LX Wagon at a Honda > Dealership. > > Here is a list of the major items found and their quoted repair costs: > > Left Outer CV Boot ($150) > Right Axle Assembly (shaft) ($250) > Right Outer Tie Rod End Loose ($50 or $150 (can't read quote)) > > Brakes: > Front Brake Pads 3mm > Rear Brake Pads 7mm > The dealer says front brakes need to be replaced pretty quick, while > rear brakes may last a bit. > > > Other Items should be replaced: > New Dome Light Bulb > Wiper Blades > Battery > Air Filter > Muffler (owner says it's under warranty and she can have it replaced > for me for free) > > They said the front right pull is due to the loose Front Right Tie Rod. > After fixing the Tie Rod, they said an alignment would be necessary. I > guess that is $100 or so. > > I am trying to get quotes from different shops on repairs. One shop > quoted %$500 to $600 on the Timing Belt. > > But with the Timing Belt and the other problems, looks like I might > need to spend at least $800. > > The owner lowered her price to $3600. I think she should go lower > though. > > Edmunds lists Private Party True Market Value at $3697. To what degree > are these repairs accounted for in the Edmunds price? Any suggestions > on a fair price to pay considering the repairs? > > > Elle wrote: >> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote >> > <webmaster@tfy.com> wrote >> >> The car pulls a little to the right when I was on the >> >> expressway. The >> >> steering wheel seems to be a little cockeyed to the >> >> right. Is that a >> >> big problem? >> > >> > May need some suspension renovation, followed by an >> > alignment. >> >> Forgot to add: Make sure the mechanic looks at the big >> trailing arm bushings. There are two, on the rear. The cost >> is over $300 (labor and parts) to replace them with OEM >> ones. >> >> It's not necessarily critical to replace ones that look beat >> up. But handling will certainly be better, by all reports >> here. (I replace my 91 Civic's next week. They're way >> overdue.) If they look really bad, consider negotiating this >> into the price. > |
Re: buying recommendation 94 Accord LX Wagon
<webmaster@tfy.com> wrote
>I just went for an inspection on the 94 Accord LX Wagon at >a Honda > Dealership. > > Here is a list of the major items found and their quoted > repair costs: > > Left Outer CV Boot ($150) > Right Axle Assembly (shaft) ($250) > Right Outer Tie Rod End Loose ($50 or $150 (can't read > quote)) The part costs about $28 from online OEM parts places like www.slhonda.com . Add another $7 for shipping. I understand it's pretty easy to replace. Could be just $50 total, but you should double check. Good for you for spotting the steering problem and then Honda finding the cause (hopefully). > Brakes: > Front Brake Pads 3mm > Rear Brake Pads 7mm > The dealer says front brakes need to be replaced pretty > quick, while > rear brakes may last a bit. > > > Other Items should be replaced: > New Dome Light Bulb > Wiper Blades > Battery > Air Filter > Muffler (owner says it's under warranty and she can have > it replaced > for me for free) > > They said the front right pull is due to the loose Front > Right Tie Rod. > After fixing the Tie Rod, they said an alignment would be > necessary. I > guess that is $100 or so. Correct. My local dealer wants $80, IIRC from speaking with them a week ago. > I am trying to get quotes from different shops on repairs. > One shop > quoted %$500 to $600 on the Timing Belt. > > But with the Timing Belt and the other problems, looks > like I might > need to spend at least $800. > > The owner lowered her price to $3600. I think she should > go lower > though. > > Edmunds lists Private Party True Market Value at $3697. What "Vehicle condition" did you put in for this price? Of the five categories of "vehicle condition," I think this 94 Accord LX qualifies as being somewhere between "Average" and "Rough" in condition. Edmunds gives info on what it means for each category. If the timing belt did not need replacement, I'd say it's "average," from what you've written (though I can't remember the body and interior condition). > To what degree > are these repairs accounted for in the Edmunds price? Any > suggestions > on a fair price to pay considering the repairs? I think I'd be happy with something between the "rough" and "average" condition prices. On the other hand, how badly do you want the car? How likely is it that someone else might come along and pay what the seller is currently asking? Is the seller getting exasperated? (Not sure how experienced you are at negotiating something like this. You don't want her to just tell you to get lost. You're being thorough, and that's great.) That's my two cents. Average it with the other responses here. :-) |
Re: buying recommendation 94 Accord LX Wagon
<webmaster@tfy.com> wrote
>I just went for an inspection on the 94 Accord LX Wagon at >a Honda > Dealership. > > Here is a list of the major items found and their quoted > repair costs: > > Left Outer CV Boot ($150) > Right Axle Assembly (shaft) ($250) > Right Outer Tie Rod End Loose ($50 or $150 (can't read > quote)) The part costs about $28 from online OEM parts places like www.slhonda.com . Add another $7 for shipping. I understand it's pretty easy to replace. Could be just $50 total, but you should double check. Good for you for spotting the steering problem and then Honda finding the cause (hopefully). > Brakes: > Front Brake Pads 3mm > Rear Brake Pads 7mm > The dealer says front brakes need to be replaced pretty > quick, while > rear brakes may last a bit. > > > Other Items should be replaced: > New Dome Light Bulb > Wiper Blades > Battery > Air Filter > Muffler (owner says it's under warranty and she can have > it replaced > for me for free) > > They said the front right pull is due to the loose Front > Right Tie Rod. > After fixing the Tie Rod, they said an alignment would be > necessary. I > guess that is $100 or so. Correct. My local dealer wants $80, IIRC from speaking with them a week ago. > I am trying to get quotes from different shops on repairs. > One shop > quoted %$500 to $600 on the Timing Belt. > > But with the Timing Belt and the other problems, looks > like I might > need to spend at least $800. > > The owner lowered her price to $3600. I think she should > go lower > though. > > Edmunds lists Private Party True Market Value at $3697. What "Vehicle condition" did you put in for this price? Of the five categories of "vehicle condition," I think this 94 Accord LX qualifies as being somewhere between "Average" and "Rough" in condition. Edmunds gives info on what it means for each category. If the timing belt did not need replacement, I'd say it's "average," from what you've written (though I can't remember the body and interior condition). > To what degree > are these repairs accounted for in the Edmunds price? Any > suggestions > on a fair price to pay considering the repairs? I think I'd be happy with something between the "rough" and "average" condition prices. On the other hand, how badly do you want the car? How likely is it that someone else might come along and pay what the seller is currently asking? Is the seller getting exasperated? (Not sure how experienced you are at negotiating something like this. You don't want her to just tell you to get lost. You're being thorough, and that's great.) That's my two cents. Average it with the other responses here. :-) |
Re: buying recommendation 94 Accord LX Wagon
<webmaster@tfy.com> wrote
>I just went for an inspection on the 94 Accord LX Wagon at >a Honda > Dealership. > > Here is a list of the major items found and their quoted > repair costs: > > Left Outer CV Boot ($150) > Right Axle Assembly (shaft) ($250) > Right Outer Tie Rod End Loose ($50 or $150 (can't read > quote)) The part costs about $28 from online OEM parts places like www.slhonda.com . Add another $7 for shipping. I understand it's pretty easy to replace. Could be just $50 total, but you should double check. Good for you for spotting the steering problem and then Honda finding the cause (hopefully). > Brakes: > Front Brake Pads 3mm > Rear Brake Pads 7mm > The dealer says front brakes need to be replaced pretty > quick, while > rear brakes may last a bit. > > > Other Items should be replaced: > New Dome Light Bulb > Wiper Blades > Battery > Air Filter > Muffler (owner says it's under warranty and she can have > it replaced > for me for free) > > They said the front right pull is due to the loose Front > Right Tie Rod. > After fixing the Tie Rod, they said an alignment would be > necessary. I > guess that is $100 or so. Correct. My local dealer wants $80, IIRC from speaking with them a week ago. > I am trying to get quotes from different shops on repairs. > One shop > quoted %$500 to $600 on the Timing Belt. > > But with the Timing Belt and the other problems, looks > like I might > need to spend at least $800. > > The owner lowered her price to $3600. I think she should > go lower > though. > > Edmunds lists Private Party True Market Value at $3697. What "Vehicle condition" did you put in for this price? Of the five categories of "vehicle condition," I think this 94 Accord LX qualifies as being somewhere between "Average" and "Rough" in condition. Edmunds gives info on what it means for each category. If the timing belt did not need replacement, I'd say it's "average," from what you've written (though I can't remember the body and interior condition). > To what degree > are these repairs accounted for in the Edmunds price? Any > suggestions > on a fair price to pay considering the repairs? I think I'd be happy with something between the "rough" and "average" condition prices. On the other hand, how badly do you want the car? How likely is it that someone else might come along and pay what the seller is currently asking? Is the seller getting exasperated? (Not sure how experienced you are at negotiating something like this. You don't want her to just tell you to get lost. You're being thorough, and that's great.) That's my two cents. Average it with the other responses here. :-) |
Re: buying recommendation 94 Accord LX Wagon
Thanks again Elle,
I used "Clean" as vehicle condition to get the Edmunds lists Private Party True Market Value at $3697. If I use "Average", the Edmunds lists Private Party True Market Value at $2,739. At rough, the TMV is $2,232. The car looks very very nice on the exterior and interior though. I will have to think it over a bit and get some quotes from private mechanics on the repairs. I will talk to the owner after I get some more information. My feeling is that she won't drop very far though, but, I will try to persuade her. Elle wrote: > <webmaster@tfy.com> wrote > >I just went for an inspection on the 94 Accord LX Wagon at > >a Honda > > Dealership. > > > > Here is a list of the major items found and their quoted > > repair costs: > > > > Left Outer CV Boot ($150) > > Right Axle Assembly (shaft) ($250) > > Right Outer Tie Rod End Loose ($50 or $150 (can't read > > quote)) > > The part costs about $28 from online OEM parts places like > www.slhonda.com . Add another $7 for shipping. I understand > it's pretty easy to replace. Could be just $50 total, but > you should double check. > > Good for you for spotting the steering problem and then > Honda finding the cause (hopefully). > > > Brakes: > > Front Brake Pads 3mm > > Rear Brake Pads 7mm > > The dealer says front brakes need to be replaced pretty > > quick, while > > rear brakes may last a bit. > > > > > > Other Items should be replaced: > > New Dome Light Bulb > > Wiper Blades > > Battery > > Air Filter > > Muffler (owner says it's under warranty and she can have > > it replaced > > for me for free) > > > > They said the front right pull is due to the loose Front > > Right Tie Rod. > > After fixing the Tie Rod, they said an alignment would be > > necessary. I > > guess that is $100 or so. > > Correct. My local dealer wants $80, IIRC from speaking with > them a week ago. > > > I am trying to get quotes from different shops on repairs. > > One shop > > quoted %$500 to $600 on the Timing Belt. > > > > But with the Timing Belt and the other problems, looks > > like I might > > need to spend at least $800. > > > > The owner lowered her price to $3600. I think she should > > go lower > > though. > > > > Edmunds lists Private Party True Market Value at $3697. > > What "Vehicle condition" did you put in for this price? > > Of the five categories of "vehicle condition," I think this > 94 Accord LX qualifies as being somewhere between "Average" > and "Rough" in condition. Edmunds gives info on what it > means for each category. > > If the timing belt did not need replacement, I'd say it's > "average," from what you've written (though I can't remember > the body and interior condition). > > > To what degree > > are these repairs accounted for in the Edmunds price? Any > > suggestions > > on a fair price to pay considering the repairs? > > I think I'd be happy with something between the "rough" and > "average" condition prices. > > On the other hand, how badly do you want the car? How likely > is it that someone else might come along and pay what the > seller is currently asking? Is the seller getting > exasperated? (Not sure how experienced you are at > negotiating something like this. You don't want her to just > tell you to get lost. You're being thorough, and that's > great.) > > That's my two cents. Average it with the other responses > here. :-) |
Re: buying recommendation 94 Accord LX Wagon
Thanks again Elle,
I used "Clean" as vehicle condition to get the Edmunds lists Private Party True Market Value at $3697. If I use "Average", the Edmunds lists Private Party True Market Value at $2,739. At rough, the TMV is $2,232. The car looks very very nice on the exterior and interior though. I will have to think it over a bit and get some quotes from private mechanics on the repairs. I will talk to the owner after I get some more information. My feeling is that she won't drop very far though, but, I will try to persuade her. Elle wrote: > <webmaster@tfy.com> wrote > >I just went for an inspection on the 94 Accord LX Wagon at > >a Honda > > Dealership. > > > > Here is a list of the major items found and their quoted > > repair costs: > > > > Left Outer CV Boot ($150) > > Right Axle Assembly (shaft) ($250) > > Right Outer Tie Rod End Loose ($50 or $150 (can't read > > quote)) > > The part costs about $28 from online OEM parts places like > www.slhonda.com . Add another $7 for shipping. I understand > it's pretty easy to replace. Could be just $50 total, but > you should double check. > > Good for you for spotting the steering problem and then > Honda finding the cause (hopefully). > > > Brakes: > > Front Brake Pads 3mm > > Rear Brake Pads 7mm > > The dealer says front brakes need to be replaced pretty > > quick, while > > rear brakes may last a bit. > > > > > > Other Items should be replaced: > > New Dome Light Bulb > > Wiper Blades > > Battery > > Air Filter > > Muffler (owner says it's under warranty and she can have > > it replaced > > for me for free) > > > > They said the front right pull is due to the loose Front > > Right Tie Rod. > > After fixing the Tie Rod, they said an alignment would be > > necessary. I > > guess that is $100 or so. > > Correct. My local dealer wants $80, IIRC from speaking with > them a week ago. > > > I am trying to get quotes from different shops on repairs. > > One shop > > quoted %$500 to $600 on the Timing Belt. > > > > But with the Timing Belt and the other problems, looks > > like I might > > need to spend at least $800. > > > > The owner lowered her price to $3600. I think she should > > go lower > > though. > > > > Edmunds lists Private Party True Market Value at $3697. > > What "Vehicle condition" did you put in for this price? > > Of the five categories of "vehicle condition," I think this > 94 Accord LX qualifies as being somewhere between "Average" > and "Rough" in condition. Edmunds gives info on what it > means for each category. > > If the timing belt did not need replacement, I'd say it's > "average," from what you've written (though I can't remember > the body and interior condition). > > > To what degree > > are these repairs accounted for in the Edmunds price? Any > > suggestions > > on a fair price to pay considering the repairs? > > I think I'd be happy with something between the "rough" and > "average" condition prices. > > On the other hand, how badly do you want the car? How likely > is it that someone else might come along and pay what the > seller is currently asking? Is the seller getting > exasperated? (Not sure how experienced you are at > negotiating something like this. You don't want her to just > tell you to get lost. You're being thorough, and that's > great.) > > That's my two cents. Average it with the other responses > here. :-) |
Re: buying recommendation 94 Accord LX Wagon
Thanks again Elle,
I used "Clean" as vehicle condition to get the Edmunds lists Private Party True Market Value at $3697. If I use "Average", the Edmunds lists Private Party True Market Value at $2,739. At rough, the TMV is $2,232. The car looks very very nice on the exterior and interior though. I will have to think it over a bit and get some quotes from private mechanics on the repairs. I will talk to the owner after I get some more information. My feeling is that she won't drop very far though, but, I will try to persuade her. Elle wrote: > <webmaster@tfy.com> wrote > >I just went for an inspection on the 94 Accord LX Wagon at > >a Honda > > Dealership. > > > > Here is a list of the major items found and their quoted > > repair costs: > > > > Left Outer CV Boot ($150) > > Right Axle Assembly (shaft) ($250) > > Right Outer Tie Rod End Loose ($50 or $150 (can't read > > quote)) > > The part costs about $28 from online OEM parts places like > www.slhonda.com . Add another $7 for shipping. I understand > it's pretty easy to replace. Could be just $50 total, but > you should double check. > > Good for you for spotting the steering problem and then > Honda finding the cause (hopefully). > > > Brakes: > > Front Brake Pads 3mm > > Rear Brake Pads 7mm > > The dealer says front brakes need to be replaced pretty > > quick, while > > rear brakes may last a bit. > > > > > > Other Items should be replaced: > > New Dome Light Bulb > > Wiper Blades > > Battery > > Air Filter > > Muffler (owner says it's under warranty and she can have > > it replaced > > for me for free) > > > > They said the front right pull is due to the loose Front > > Right Tie Rod. > > After fixing the Tie Rod, they said an alignment would be > > necessary. I > > guess that is $100 or so. > > Correct. My local dealer wants $80, IIRC from speaking with > them a week ago. > > > I am trying to get quotes from different shops on repairs. > > One shop > > quoted %$500 to $600 on the Timing Belt. > > > > But with the Timing Belt and the other problems, looks > > like I might > > need to spend at least $800. > > > > The owner lowered her price to $3600. I think she should > > go lower > > though. > > > > Edmunds lists Private Party True Market Value at $3697. > > What "Vehicle condition" did you put in for this price? > > Of the five categories of "vehicle condition," I think this > 94 Accord LX qualifies as being somewhere between "Average" > and "Rough" in condition. Edmunds gives info on what it > means for each category. > > If the timing belt did not need replacement, I'd say it's > "average," from what you've written (though I can't remember > the body and interior condition). > > > To what degree > > are these repairs accounted for in the Edmunds price? Any > > suggestions > > on a fair price to pay considering the repairs? > > I think I'd be happy with something between the "rough" and > "average" condition prices. > > On the other hand, how badly do you want the car? How likely > is it that someone else might come along and pay what the > seller is currently asking? Is the seller getting > exasperated? (Not sure how experienced you are at > negotiating something like this. You don't want her to just > tell you to get lost. You're being thorough, and that's > great.) > > That's my two cents. Average it with the other responses > here. :-) |
Re: buying recommendation 94 Accord LX Wagon
Thanks for the post Patrick,
>From conversations with her, it seems she does not want to spend money on the car to do any repairs. I think she would be more inclined to lower the price. But, well have to see how much she will drop. With all that needs to be done to the car, I don't think I can pay what she is asking now. I will have to talk to some more independent shops to get some quotes on getting the work done. I will post back with what I find out. Patrick (dot) wrote: > Obviously the repairs can be done cheaper with an independent repair > facility. Edmunds allows for you to factor the mileage and the condition of > the car to give you the fair market price. When I sold my wife's the > exterior was in very good condition and the only issues with it were the > fuel guage didn't work and the antennae would not retract. $3600 including > the items you have listed is too high. > > I believe the timing belt should have been replaced at 60,000 miles as > opposed to 100,000 which is common today but don't quote me on that. Not > having seen the car, I would subtract the $1000 in repairs the dealer quoted > from her original asking price or offer what Edmunds says the value is for > fair condition. > > When she balks at the $2900 offer ask what she will seriously take > considering the repair work that is needed. Then go from there. If it were > me I wouldn't spend less than $3200 but I would do the brakes and other > minor repairs myself and leave the boot, tie rod end, & axle assembly to a > repair shop as I don't have the tools needed and haven't attempted those > repairs before. > > <webmaster@tfy.com> wrote in message > news:1150764487.194363.271250@u72g2000cwu.googlegr oups.com... > >I just went for an inspection on the 94 Accord LX Wagon at a Honda > > Dealership. > > > > Here is a list of the major items found and their quoted repair costs: > > > > Left Outer CV Boot ($150) > > Right Axle Assembly (shaft) ($250) > > Right Outer Tie Rod End Loose ($50 or $150 (can't read quote)) > > > > Brakes: > > Front Brake Pads 3mm > > Rear Brake Pads 7mm > > The dealer says front brakes need to be replaced pretty quick, while > > rear brakes may last a bit. > > > > > > Other Items should be replaced: > > New Dome Light Bulb > > Wiper Blades > > Battery > > Air Filter > > Muffler (owner says it's under warranty and she can have it replaced > > for me for free) > > > > They said the front right pull is due to the loose Front Right Tie Rod. > > After fixing the Tie Rod, they said an alignment would be necessary. I > > guess that is $100 or so. > > > > I am trying to get quotes from different shops on repairs. One shop > > quoted %$500 to $600 on the Timing Belt. > > > > But with the Timing Belt and the other problems, looks like I might > > need to spend at least $800. > > > > The owner lowered her price to $3600. I think she should go lower > > though. > > > > Edmunds lists Private Party True Market Value at $3697. To what degree > > are these repairs accounted for in the Edmunds price? Any suggestions > > on a fair price to pay considering the repairs? > > > > > > Elle wrote: > >> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote > >> > <webmaster@tfy.com> wrote > >> >> The car pulls a little to the right when I was on the > >> >> expressway. The > >> >> steering wheel seems to be a little cockeyed to the > >> >> right. Is that a > >> >> big problem? > >> > > >> > May need some suspension renovation, followed by an > >> > alignment. > >> > >> Forgot to add: Make sure the mechanic looks at the big > >> trailing arm bushings. There are two, on the rear. The cost > >> is over $300 (labor and parts) to replace them with OEM > >> ones. > >> > >> It's not necessarily critical to replace ones that look beat > >> up. But handling will certainly be better, by all reports > >> here. (I replace my 91 Civic's next week. They're way > >> overdue.) If they look really bad, consider negotiating this > >> into the price. > > |
Re: buying recommendation 94 Accord LX Wagon
Thanks for the post Patrick,
>From conversations with her, it seems she does not want to spend money on the car to do any repairs. I think she would be more inclined to lower the price. But, well have to see how much she will drop. With all that needs to be done to the car, I don't think I can pay what she is asking now. I will have to talk to some more independent shops to get some quotes on getting the work done. I will post back with what I find out. Patrick (dot) wrote: > Obviously the repairs can be done cheaper with an independent repair > facility. Edmunds allows for you to factor the mileage and the condition of > the car to give you the fair market price. When I sold my wife's the > exterior was in very good condition and the only issues with it were the > fuel guage didn't work and the antennae would not retract. $3600 including > the items you have listed is too high. > > I believe the timing belt should have been replaced at 60,000 miles as > opposed to 100,000 which is common today but don't quote me on that. Not > having seen the car, I would subtract the $1000 in repairs the dealer quoted > from her original asking price or offer what Edmunds says the value is for > fair condition. > > When she balks at the $2900 offer ask what she will seriously take > considering the repair work that is needed. Then go from there. If it were > me I wouldn't spend less than $3200 but I would do the brakes and other > minor repairs myself and leave the boot, tie rod end, & axle assembly to a > repair shop as I don't have the tools needed and haven't attempted those > repairs before. > > <webmaster@tfy.com> wrote in message > news:1150764487.194363.271250@u72g2000cwu.googlegr oups.com... > >I just went for an inspection on the 94 Accord LX Wagon at a Honda > > Dealership. > > > > Here is a list of the major items found and their quoted repair costs: > > > > Left Outer CV Boot ($150) > > Right Axle Assembly (shaft) ($250) > > Right Outer Tie Rod End Loose ($50 or $150 (can't read quote)) > > > > Brakes: > > Front Brake Pads 3mm > > Rear Brake Pads 7mm > > The dealer says front brakes need to be replaced pretty quick, while > > rear brakes may last a bit. > > > > > > Other Items should be replaced: > > New Dome Light Bulb > > Wiper Blades > > Battery > > Air Filter > > Muffler (owner says it's under warranty and she can have it replaced > > for me for free) > > > > They said the front right pull is due to the loose Front Right Tie Rod. > > After fixing the Tie Rod, they said an alignment would be necessary. I > > guess that is $100 or so. > > > > I am trying to get quotes from different shops on repairs. One shop > > quoted %$500 to $600 on the Timing Belt. > > > > But with the Timing Belt and the other problems, looks like I might > > need to spend at least $800. > > > > The owner lowered her price to $3600. I think she should go lower > > though. > > > > Edmunds lists Private Party True Market Value at $3697. To what degree > > are these repairs accounted for in the Edmunds price? Any suggestions > > on a fair price to pay considering the repairs? > > > > > > Elle wrote: > >> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote > >> > <webmaster@tfy.com> wrote > >> >> The car pulls a little to the right when I was on the > >> >> expressway. The > >> >> steering wheel seems to be a little cockeyed to the > >> >> right. Is that a > >> >> big problem? > >> > > >> > May need some suspension renovation, followed by an > >> > alignment. > >> > >> Forgot to add: Make sure the mechanic looks at the big > >> trailing arm bushings. There are two, on the rear. The cost > >> is over $300 (labor and parts) to replace them with OEM > >> ones. > >> > >> It's not necessarily critical to replace ones that look beat > >> up. But handling will certainly be better, by all reports > >> here. (I replace my 91 Civic's next week. They're way > >> overdue.) If they look really bad, consider negotiating this > >> into the price. > > |
Re: buying recommendation 94 Accord LX Wagon
Thanks for the post Patrick,
>From conversations with her, it seems she does not want to spend money on the car to do any repairs. I think she would be more inclined to lower the price. But, well have to see how much she will drop. With all that needs to be done to the car, I don't think I can pay what she is asking now. I will have to talk to some more independent shops to get some quotes on getting the work done. I will post back with what I find out. Patrick (dot) wrote: > Obviously the repairs can be done cheaper with an independent repair > facility. Edmunds allows for you to factor the mileage and the condition of > the car to give you the fair market price. When I sold my wife's the > exterior was in very good condition and the only issues with it were the > fuel guage didn't work and the antennae would not retract. $3600 including > the items you have listed is too high. > > I believe the timing belt should have been replaced at 60,000 miles as > opposed to 100,000 which is common today but don't quote me on that. Not > having seen the car, I would subtract the $1000 in repairs the dealer quoted > from her original asking price or offer what Edmunds says the value is for > fair condition. > > When she balks at the $2900 offer ask what she will seriously take > considering the repair work that is needed. Then go from there. If it were > me I wouldn't spend less than $3200 but I would do the brakes and other > minor repairs myself and leave the boot, tie rod end, & axle assembly to a > repair shop as I don't have the tools needed and haven't attempted those > repairs before. > > <webmaster@tfy.com> wrote in message > news:1150764487.194363.271250@u72g2000cwu.googlegr oups.com... > >I just went for an inspection on the 94 Accord LX Wagon at a Honda > > Dealership. > > > > Here is a list of the major items found and their quoted repair costs: > > > > Left Outer CV Boot ($150) > > Right Axle Assembly (shaft) ($250) > > Right Outer Tie Rod End Loose ($50 or $150 (can't read quote)) > > > > Brakes: > > Front Brake Pads 3mm > > Rear Brake Pads 7mm > > The dealer says front brakes need to be replaced pretty quick, while > > rear brakes may last a bit. > > > > > > Other Items should be replaced: > > New Dome Light Bulb > > Wiper Blades > > Battery > > Air Filter > > Muffler (owner says it's under warranty and she can have it replaced > > for me for free) > > > > They said the front right pull is due to the loose Front Right Tie Rod. > > After fixing the Tie Rod, they said an alignment would be necessary. I > > guess that is $100 or so. > > > > I am trying to get quotes from different shops on repairs. One shop > > quoted %$500 to $600 on the Timing Belt. > > > > But with the Timing Belt and the other problems, looks like I might > > need to spend at least $800. > > > > The owner lowered her price to $3600. I think she should go lower > > though. > > > > Edmunds lists Private Party True Market Value at $3697. To what degree > > are these repairs accounted for in the Edmunds price? Any suggestions > > on a fair price to pay considering the repairs? > > > > > > Elle wrote: > >> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote > >> > <webmaster@tfy.com> wrote > >> >> The car pulls a little to the right when I was on the > >> >> expressway. The > >> >> steering wheel seems to be a little cockeyed to the > >> >> right. Is that a > >> >> big problem? > >> > > >> > May need some suspension renovation, followed by an > >> > alignment. > >> > >> Forgot to add: Make sure the mechanic looks at the big > >> trailing arm bushings. There are two, on the rear. The cost > >> is over $300 (labor and parts) to replace them with OEM > >> ones. > >> > >> It's not necessarily critical to replace ones that look beat > >> up. But handling will certainly be better, by all reports > >> here. (I replace my 91 Civic's next week. They're way > >> overdue.) If they look really bad, consider negotiating this > >> into the price. > > |
Re: buying recommendation 94 Accord LX Wagon
<webmaster@tfy.com> wrote
> I used "Clean" as vehicle condition to get the Edmunds lists Private > Party True Market Value at $3697. If I use "Average", the > Edmunds > lists Private Party True Market Value at $2,739. At > rough, the TMV is > $2,232. Interesting how well these jive with your numbers. IOW, deducting the cost of all the repairs except the TB (so assume about $900, by my count) from the seller's current asking price of $3600 puts the price at $2700. Figure another $600 for the timing belt and we're down to $2100. > The car looks very very nice on the exterior and interior > though. > > I will have to think it over a bit and get some quotes > from private > mechanics on the repairs. > > I will talk to the owner after I get some more > information. My feeling > is that she won't drop very far though, but, I will try to > persuade > her. Maybe she's thinking she can find a buyer who won't be so thorough. I hope you find some other leads. More options is always better. :-) |
Re: buying recommendation 94 Accord LX Wagon
<webmaster@tfy.com> wrote
> I used "Clean" as vehicle condition to get the Edmunds lists Private > Party True Market Value at $3697. If I use "Average", the > Edmunds > lists Private Party True Market Value at $2,739. At > rough, the TMV is > $2,232. Interesting how well these jive with your numbers. IOW, deducting the cost of all the repairs except the TB (so assume about $900, by my count) from the seller's current asking price of $3600 puts the price at $2700. Figure another $600 for the timing belt and we're down to $2100. > The car looks very very nice on the exterior and interior > though. > > I will have to think it over a bit and get some quotes > from private > mechanics on the repairs. > > I will talk to the owner after I get some more > information. My feeling > is that she won't drop very far though, but, I will try to > persuade > her. Maybe she's thinking she can find a buyer who won't be so thorough. I hope you find some other leads. More options is always better. :-) |
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