Re: Battery cable came off!
 

Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
> Matt Ion wrote:
>
>>Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Uh, the battery is nothing more thann a large capacitor.
>>
>>Actually, they're not. Capacitors /store/ electrical energy. Batteries
>>/create/ it via a chemical reaction. Charging a battery is not storing energy;
>>it's (to oversimplify) merely reversing the checmical reaction.
>
>
>
> Technically yes, but both smooth voltage..

Batteries do, to a degree. That's not what they're designed for though.

Re: Battery cable came off!
 

Matt Ion <soundy106@gmail.com> wrote in
news:P8fgh.485006$R63.220768@pd7urf1no:

> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>
>> Matt Ion wrote:
>>
>>>Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Uh, the battery is nothing more thann a large capacitor.
>>>
>>>Actually, they're not. Capacitors /store/ electrical energy.
>>>Batteries /create/ it via a chemical reaction. Charging a battery is
>>>not storing energy; it's (to oversimplify) merely reversing the
>>>checmical reaction.
>>
>>
>>
>> Technically yes, but both smooth voltage..
>
> Batteries do, to a degree. That's not what they're designed for
> though.
>


But it's one of the things they're *used* for.

Do you want to email Bill Darden and tell him he's wrong?


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: Battery cable came off!
 

Matt Ion <soundy106@gmail.com> wrote in
news:P8fgh.485006$R63.220768@pd7urf1no:

> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>
>> Matt Ion wrote:
>>
>>>Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Uh, the battery is nothing more thann a large capacitor.
>>>
>>>Actually, they're not. Capacitors /store/ electrical energy.
>>>Batteries /create/ it via a chemical reaction. Charging a battery is
>>>not storing energy; it's (to oversimplify) merely reversing the
>>>checmical reaction.
>>
>>
>>
>> Technically yes, but both smooth voltage..
>
> Batteries do, to a degree. That's not what they're designed for
> though.
>


But it's one of the things they're *used* for.

Do you want to email Bill Darden and tell him he's wrong?


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: Battery cable came off!
 

Matt Ion <soundy106@gmail.com> wrote in
news:P8fgh.485006$R63.220768@pd7urf1no:

> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>
>> Matt Ion wrote:
>>
>>>Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Uh, the battery is nothing more thann a large capacitor.
>>>
>>>Actually, they're not. Capacitors /store/ electrical energy.
>>>Batteries /create/ it via a chemical reaction. Charging a battery is
>>>not storing energy; it's (to oversimplify) merely reversing the
>>>checmical reaction.
>>
>>
>>
>> Technically yes, but both smooth voltage..
>
> Batteries do, to a degree. That's not what they're designed for
> though.
>


But it's one of the things they're *used* for.

Do you want to email Bill Darden and tell him he's wrong?


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: Battery cable came off!
 

Matt Ion <soundy106@gmail.com> wrote in
news:P8fgh.485006$R63.220768@pd7urf1no:

> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>
>> Matt Ion wrote:
>>
>>>Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Uh, the battery is nothing more thann a large capacitor.
>>>
>>>Actually, they're not. Capacitors /store/ electrical energy.
>>>Batteries /create/ it via a chemical reaction. Charging a battery is
>>>not storing energy; it's (to oversimplify) merely reversing the
>>>checmical reaction.
>>
>>
>>
>> Technically yes, but both smooth voltage..
>
> Batteries do, to a degree. That's not what they're designed for
> though.
>


But it's one of the things they're *used* for.

Do you want to email Bill Darden and tell him he's wrong?


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: Battery cable came off!
 

"Matt Ion" <soundy106@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Clegh.480395$5R2.401317@pd7urf3no...
> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
>> Uh, the battery is nothing more thann a large capacitor.
>
> Actually, they're not. Capacitors /store/ electrical energy. Batteries
> /create/ it via a chemical reaction. Charging a battery is not storing
> energy; it's (to oversimplify) merely reversing the checmical reaction.

Batteries most definitely do have capacitance, do you have a meter?

Batteries most definitely do store energy when charged. Or are you
suggesting that when it is used up that more is created out of nothing?

Re: Battery cable came off!
 

"Matt Ion" <soundy106@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Clegh.480395$5R2.401317@pd7urf3no...
> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
>> Uh, the battery is nothing more thann a large capacitor.
>
> Actually, they're not. Capacitors /store/ electrical energy. Batteries
> /create/ it via a chemical reaction. Charging a battery is not storing
> energy; it's (to oversimplify) merely reversing the checmical reaction.

Batteries most definitely do have capacitance, do you have a meter?

Batteries most definitely do store energy when charged. Or are you
suggesting that when it is used up that more is created out of nothing?

Re: Battery cable came off!
 

"Matt Ion" <soundy106@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Clegh.480395$5R2.401317@pd7urf3no...
> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
>> Uh, the battery is nothing more thann a large capacitor.
>
> Actually, they're not. Capacitors /store/ electrical energy. Batteries
> /create/ it via a chemical reaction. Charging a battery is not storing
> energy; it's (to oversimplify) merely reversing the checmical reaction.

Batteries most definitely do have capacitance, do you have a meter?

Batteries most definitely do store energy when charged. Or are you
suggesting that when it is used up that more is created out of nothing?

Re: Battery cable came off!
 

"Matt Ion" <soundy106@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Clegh.480395$5R2.401317@pd7urf3no...
> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
>> Uh, the battery is nothing more thann a large capacitor.
>
> Actually, they're not. Capacitors /store/ electrical energy. Batteries
> /create/ it via a chemical reaction. Charging a battery is not storing
> energy; it's (to oversimplify) merely reversing the checmical reaction.

Batteries most definitely do have capacitance, do you have a meter?

Batteries most definitely do store energy when charged. Or are you
suggesting that when it is used up that more is created out of nothing?

Re: Battery cable came off!
 

Matt Ion <soundy106@gmail.com> wrote in
news:Clegh.480395$5R2.401317@pd7urf3no:

> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
>> Uh, the battery is nothing more thann a large capacitor.
>
> Actually, they're not. Capacitors /store/ electrical energy.
> Batteries /create/ it via a chemical reaction. Charging a battery is
> not storing energy; it's (to oversimplify) merely reversing the
> checmical reaction.
>

The plates of a battery have capacitance.
They are charged by the chemical reaction.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Re: Battery cable came off!
 

Matt Ion <soundy106@gmail.com> wrote in
news:Clegh.480395$5R2.401317@pd7urf3no:

> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
>> Uh, the battery is nothing more thann a large capacitor.
>
> Actually, they're not. Capacitors /store/ electrical energy.
> Batteries /create/ it via a chemical reaction. Charging a battery is
> not storing energy; it's (to oversimplify) merely reversing the
> checmical reaction.
>

The plates of a battery have capacitance.
They are charged by the chemical reaction.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Re: Battery cable came off!
 

Matt Ion <soundy106@gmail.com> wrote in
news:Clegh.480395$5R2.401317@pd7urf3no:

> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
>> Uh, the battery is nothing more thann a large capacitor.
>
> Actually, they're not. Capacitors /store/ electrical energy.
> Batteries /create/ it via a chemical reaction. Charging a battery is
> not storing energy; it's (to oversimplify) merely reversing the
> checmical reaction.
>

The plates of a battery have capacitance.
They are charged by the chemical reaction.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Re: Battery cable came off!
 

Matt Ion <soundy106@gmail.com> wrote in
news:Clegh.480395$5R2.401317@pd7urf3no:

> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
>> Uh, the battery is nothing more thann a large capacitor.
>
> Actually, they're not. Capacitors /store/ electrical energy.
> Batteries /create/ it via a chemical reaction. Charging a battery is
> not storing energy; it's (to oversimplify) merely reversing the
> checmical reaction.
>

The plates of a battery have capacitance.
They are charged by the chemical reaction.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Re: Battery cable came off!
 

On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:40:44 -0700, jrk <BC80009mm@yahoo.com> wrote:



>"Matt Ion" <soundy106@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:Clegh.480395$5R2.401317@pd7urf3no...
>> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>
>>> Uh, the battery is nothing more thann a large capacitor.
>>
>> Actually, they're not. Capacitors /store/ electrical energy. Batteries
>> /create/ it via a chemical reaction. Charging a battery is not storing
>> energy; it's (to oversimplify) merely reversing the checmical reaction.

>Batteries most definitely do have capacitance, do you have a meter?

>Batteries most definitely do store energy when charged. Or are you
>suggesting that when it is used up that more is created out of nothing?

Capacitors are electrostatic while batteries are electrochemical.
A capacitor capable of storing the energy within a car battery and power
capability needed to start a car would be the size of a double long semi.

Re: Battery cable came off!
 

On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:40:44 -0700, jrk <BC80009mm@yahoo.com> wrote:



>"Matt Ion" <soundy106@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:Clegh.480395$5R2.401317@pd7urf3no...
>> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>
>>> Uh, the battery is nothing more thann a large capacitor.
>>
>> Actually, they're not. Capacitors /store/ electrical energy. Batteries
>> /create/ it via a chemical reaction. Charging a battery is not storing
>> energy; it's (to oversimplify) merely reversing the checmical reaction.

>Batteries most definitely do have capacitance, do you have a meter?

>Batteries most definitely do store energy when charged. Or are you
>suggesting that when it is used up that more is created out of nothing?

Capacitors are electrostatic while batteries are electrochemical.
A capacitor capable of storing the energy within a car battery and power
capability needed to start a car would be the size of a double long semi.