Armor All on dashboard: Good or bad?
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Armor All on dashboard: Good or bad?
One of the young engineers in my department at work is regularly telling
people to avoid applying Armor All Protectant to their cars' dashboards. He
says that instead of preventing cracks in a car's dashboard it will actually
cause them. I've used Armor All on my vehicles' dashboards for 27 years and
have yet to experience a single crack in any of them to date. In fact, they
all looked like new when I sold or traded them. The dashboard on one of my
cars, a 1990 Nissan 300ZX that I still own, looks like new to this day.
There isn't the first indication that any cracking is about to occur within
any region of the car's dashboard. Or any other plastic parts that were
protected with Armor All shortly after I purchased the car. Have any of you
guys experienced dashboard cracking with your Honda, or other type of
vehicle, that you actually believe was caused by a protectant rather than
neglect from a previous owner or something? J. Perry
people to avoid applying Armor All Protectant to their cars' dashboards. He
says that instead of preventing cracks in a car's dashboard it will actually
cause them. I've used Armor All on my vehicles' dashboards for 27 years and
have yet to experience a single crack in any of them to date. In fact, they
all looked like new when I sold or traded them. The dashboard on one of my
cars, a 1990 Nissan 300ZX that I still own, looks like new to this day.
There isn't the first indication that any cracking is about to occur within
any region of the car's dashboard. Or any other plastic parts that were
protected with Armor All shortly after I purchased the car. Have any of you
guys experienced dashboard cracking with your Honda, or other type of
vehicle, that you actually believe was caused by a protectant rather than
neglect from a previous owner or something? J. Perry
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Re: Armor All on dashboard: Good or bad?
"J. Perry" wrote:
>
> One of the young engineers in my department at work is regularly telling
> people to avoid applying Armor All Protectant to their cars' dashboards. He
> says that instead of preventing cracks in a car's dashboard it will actually
> cause them. I've used Armor All on my vehicles' dashboards for 27 years and
> have yet to experience a single crack in any of them to date. In fact, they
> all looked like new when I sold or traded them. The dashboard on one of my
> cars, a 1990 Nissan 300ZX that I still own, looks like new to this day.
> There isn't the first indication that any cracking is about to occur within
> any region of the car's dashboard. Or any other plastic parts that were
> protected with Armor All shortly after I purchased the car. Have any of you
> guys experienced dashboard cracking with your Honda, or other type of
> vehicle, that you actually believe was caused by a protectant rather than
> neglect from a previous owner or something? J. Perry
========
I nearly lost a cell phone out the window after using a protectant. Good
thing I saw it start sliding and lunged for it ! :-)
'Curly'
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>
> One of the young engineers in my department at work is regularly telling
> people to avoid applying Armor All Protectant to their cars' dashboards. He
> says that instead of preventing cracks in a car's dashboard it will actually
> cause them. I've used Armor All on my vehicles' dashboards for 27 years and
> have yet to experience a single crack in any of them to date. In fact, they
> all looked like new when I sold or traded them. The dashboard on one of my
> cars, a 1990 Nissan 300ZX that I still own, looks like new to this day.
> There isn't the first indication that any cracking is about to occur within
> any region of the car's dashboard. Or any other plastic parts that were
> protected with Armor All shortly after I purchased the car. Have any of you
> guys experienced dashboard cracking with your Honda, or other type of
> vehicle, that you actually believe was caused by a protectant rather than
> neglect from a previous owner or something? J. Perry
========
I nearly lost a cell phone out the window after using a protectant. Good
thing I saw it start sliding and lunged for it ! :-)
'Curly'
=========
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Re: Armor All on dashboard: Good or bad?
"J. Perry" wrote:
>
> One of the young engineers in my department at work is regularly telling
> people to avoid applying Armor All Protectant to their cars' dashboards. He
> says that instead of preventing cracks in a car's dashboard it will actually
> cause them. I've used Armor All on my vehicles' dashboards for 27 years and
> have yet to experience a single crack in any of them to date. In fact, they
> all looked like new when I sold or traded them. The dashboard on one of my
> cars, a 1990 Nissan 300ZX that I still own, looks like new to this day.
> There isn't the first indication that any cracking is about to occur within
> any region of the car's dashboard. Or any other plastic parts that were
> protected with Armor All shortly after I purchased the car. Have any of you
> guys experienced dashboard cracking with your Honda, or other type of
> vehicle, that you actually believe was caused by a protectant rather than
> neglect from a previous owner or something? J. Perry
========
I nearly lost a cell phone out the window after using a protectant. Good
thing I saw it start sliding and lunged for it ! :-)
'Curly'
=========
>
> One of the young engineers in my department at work is regularly telling
> people to avoid applying Armor All Protectant to their cars' dashboards. He
> says that instead of preventing cracks in a car's dashboard it will actually
> cause them. I've used Armor All on my vehicles' dashboards for 27 years and
> have yet to experience a single crack in any of them to date. In fact, they
> all looked like new when I sold or traded them. The dashboard on one of my
> cars, a 1990 Nissan 300ZX that I still own, looks like new to this day.
> There isn't the first indication that any cracking is about to occur within
> any region of the car's dashboard. Or any other plastic parts that were
> protected with Armor All shortly after I purchased the car. Have any of you
> guys experienced dashboard cracking with your Honda, or other type of
> vehicle, that you actually believe was caused by a protectant rather than
> neglect from a previous owner or something? J. Perry
========
I nearly lost a cell phone out the window after using a protectant. Good
thing I saw it start sliding and lunged for it ! :-)
'Curly'
=========
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Re: Armor All on dashboard: Good or bad?
"J. Perry" wrote:
>
> One of the young engineers in my department at work is regularly telling
> people to avoid applying Armor All Protectant to their cars' dashboards. He
> says that instead of preventing cracks in a car's dashboard it will actually
> cause them. I've used Armor All on my vehicles' dashboards for 27 years and
> have yet to experience a single crack in any of them to date. In fact, they
> all looked like new when I sold or traded them. The dashboard on one of my
> cars, a 1990 Nissan 300ZX that I still own, looks like new to this day.
> There isn't the first indication that any cracking is about to occur within
> any region of the car's dashboard. Or any other plastic parts that were
> protected with Armor All shortly after I purchased the car. Have any of you
> guys experienced dashboard cracking with your Honda, or other type of
> vehicle, that you actually believe was caused by a protectant rather than
> neglect from a previous owner or something? J. Perry
========
I nearly lost a cell phone out the window after using a protectant. Good
thing I saw it start sliding and lunged for it ! :-)
'Curly'
=========
>
> One of the young engineers in my department at work is regularly telling
> people to avoid applying Armor All Protectant to their cars' dashboards. He
> says that instead of preventing cracks in a car's dashboard it will actually
> cause them. I've used Armor All on my vehicles' dashboards for 27 years and
> have yet to experience a single crack in any of them to date. In fact, they
> all looked like new when I sold or traded them. The dashboard on one of my
> cars, a 1990 Nissan 300ZX that I still own, looks like new to this day.
> There isn't the first indication that any cracking is about to occur within
> any region of the car's dashboard. Or any other plastic parts that were
> protected with Armor All shortly after I purchased the car. Have any of you
> guys experienced dashboard cracking with your Honda, or other type of
> vehicle, that you actually believe was caused by a protectant rather than
> neglect from a previous owner or something? J. Perry
========
I nearly lost a cell phone out the window after using a protectant. Good
thing I saw it start sliding and lunged for it ! :-)
'Curly'
=========
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Re: Armor All on dashboard: Good or bad?
J. Perry wrote:
> One of the young engineers in my department at work is regularly
> telling people to avoid applying Armor All Protectant to their cars'
> dashboards. He says that instead of preventing cracks in a car's
> dashboard it will actually cause them. I've used Armor All on my
> vehicles' dashboards for 27 years and have yet to experience a single
> crack in any of them to date. In fact, they all looked like new when
> I sold or traded them. The dashboard on one of my cars, a 1990 Nissan
> 300ZX that I still own, looks like new to this day. There isn't the
> first indication that any cracking is about to occur within any
> region of the car's dashboard. Or any other plastic parts that were
> protected with Armor All shortly after I purchased the car. Have any
> of you guys experienced dashboard cracking with your Honda, or other
> type of vehicle, that you actually believe was caused by a protectant
> rather than neglect from a previous owner or something? J.
> Perry
Just avoid putting it on the steering wheel.
> One of the young engineers in my department at work is regularly
> telling people to avoid applying Armor All Protectant to their cars'
> dashboards. He says that instead of preventing cracks in a car's
> dashboard it will actually cause them. I've used Armor All on my
> vehicles' dashboards for 27 years and have yet to experience a single
> crack in any of them to date. In fact, they all looked like new when
> I sold or traded them. The dashboard on one of my cars, a 1990 Nissan
> 300ZX that I still own, looks like new to this day. There isn't the
> first indication that any cracking is about to occur within any
> region of the car's dashboard. Or any other plastic parts that were
> protected with Armor All shortly after I purchased the car. Have any
> of you guys experienced dashboard cracking with your Honda, or other
> type of vehicle, that you actually believe was caused by a protectant
> rather than neglect from a previous owner or something? J.
> Perry
Just avoid putting it on the steering wheel.
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Re: Armor All on dashboard: Good or bad?
J. Perry wrote:
> One of the young engineers in my department at work is regularly
> telling people to avoid applying Armor All Protectant to their cars'
> dashboards. He says that instead of preventing cracks in a car's
> dashboard it will actually cause them. I've used Armor All on my
> vehicles' dashboards for 27 years and have yet to experience a single
> crack in any of them to date. In fact, they all looked like new when
> I sold or traded them. The dashboard on one of my cars, a 1990 Nissan
> 300ZX that I still own, looks like new to this day. There isn't the
> first indication that any cracking is about to occur within any
> region of the car's dashboard. Or any other plastic parts that were
> protected with Armor All shortly after I purchased the car. Have any
> of you guys experienced dashboard cracking with your Honda, or other
> type of vehicle, that you actually believe was caused by a protectant
> rather than neglect from a previous owner or something? J.
> Perry
Just avoid putting it on the steering wheel.
> One of the young engineers in my department at work is regularly
> telling people to avoid applying Armor All Protectant to their cars'
> dashboards. He says that instead of preventing cracks in a car's
> dashboard it will actually cause them. I've used Armor All on my
> vehicles' dashboards for 27 years and have yet to experience a single
> crack in any of them to date. In fact, they all looked like new when
> I sold or traded them. The dashboard on one of my cars, a 1990 Nissan
> 300ZX that I still own, looks like new to this day. There isn't the
> first indication that any cracking is about to occur within any
> region of the car's dashboard. Or any other plastic parts that were
> protected with Armor All shortly after I purchased the car. Have any
> of you guys experienced dashboard cracking with your Honda, or other
> type of vehicle, that you actually believe was caused by a protectant
> rather than neglect from a previous owner or something? J.
> Perry
Just avoid putting it on the steering wheel.
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Re: Armor All on dashboard: Good or bad?
J. Perry wrote:
> One of the young engineers in my department at work is regularly
> telling people to avoid applying Armor All Protectant to their cars'
> dashboards. He says that instead of preventing cracks in a car's
> dashboard it will actually cause them. I've used Armor All on my
> vehicles' dashboards for 27 years and have yet to experience a single
> crack in any of them to date. In fact, they all looked like new when
> I sold or traded them. The dashboard on one of my cars, a 1990 Nissan
> 300ZX that I still own, looks like new to this day. There isn't the
> first indication that any cracking is about to occur within any
> region of the car's dashboard. Or any other plastic parts that were
> protected with Armor All shortly after I purchased the car. Have any
> of you guys experienced dashboard cracking with your Honda, or other
> type of vehicle, that you actually believe was caused by a protectant
> rather than neglect from a previous owner or something? J.
> Perry
Just avoid putting it on the steering wheel.
> One of the young engineers in my department at work is regularly
> telling people to avoid applying Armor All Protectant to their cars'
> dashboards. He says that instead of preventing cracks in a car's
> dashboard it will actually cause them. I've used Armor All on my
> vehicles' dashboards for 27 years and have yet to experience a single
> crack in any of them to date. In fact, they all looked like new when
> I sold or traded them. The dashboard on one of my cars, a 1990 Nissan
> 300ZX that I still own, looks like new to this day. There isn't the
> first indication that any cracking is about to occur within any
> region of the car's dashboard. Or any other plastic parts that were
> protected with Armor All shortly after I purchased the car. Have any
> of you guys experienced dashboard cracking with your Honda, or other
> type of vehicle, that you actually believe was caused by a protectant
> rather than neglect from a previous owner or something? J.
> Perry
Just avoid putting it on the steering wheel.
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Re: Armor All on dashboard: Good or bad?
On 2/15/04 2:02 PM, in article JfQXb.151$8Z6.6891@eagle.america.net, "J.
Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote:
> One of the young engineers in my department at work is regularly telling
> people to avoid applying Armor All Protectant to their cars' dashboards. He
> says that instead of preventing cracks in a car's dashboard it will actually
> cause them. I've used Armor All on my vehicles' dashboards for 27 years and
> have yet to experience a single crack in any of them to date. In fact, they
> all looked like new when I sold or traded them. The dashboard on one of my
> cars, a 1990 Nissan 300ZX that I still own, looks like new to this day.
> There isn't the first indication that any cracking is about to occur within
> any region of the car's dashboard. Or any other plastic parts that were
> protected with Armor All shortly after I purchased the car. Have any of you
> guys experienced dashboard cracking with your Honda, or other type of
> vehicle, that you actually believe was caused by a protectant rather than
> neglect from a previous owner or something? J. Perry
>
>
I've never had a dashboard crack with or without Armor All. I did have to
get a dashboard rug for a Nissan 240sx because the Armor All made it shine
instead of the original dull finish. As it turned out, the dullness was
necessary. Glare from the shiny dash reflecting onto the windshield made
the car all but undrivable in the day time. If you are going to use Armor
All, make sure your dash isn't designed to be intentionally dull (or use the
dull finish version of Armor All).
Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote:
> One of the young engineers in my department at work is regularly telling
> people to avoid applying Armor All Protectant to their cars' dashboards. He
> says that instead of preventing cracks in a car's dashboard it will actually
> cause them. I've used Armor All on my vehicles' dashboards for 27 years and
> have yet to experience a single crack in any of them to date. In fact, they
> all looked like new when I sold or traded them. The dashboard on one of my
> cars, a 1990 Nissan 300ZX that I still own, looks like new to this day.
> There isn't the first indication that any cracking is about to occur within
> any region of the car's dashboard. Or any other plastic parts that were
> protected with Armor All shortly after I purchased the car. Have any of you
> guys experienced dashboard cracking with your Honda, or other type of
> vehicle, that you actually believe was caused by a protectant rather than
> neglect from a previous owner or something? J. Perry
>
>
I've never had a dashboard crack with or without Armor All. I did have to
get a dashboard rug for a Nissan 240sx because the Armor All made it shine
instead of the original dull finish. As it turned out, the dullness was
necessary. Glare from the shiny dash reflecting onto the windshield made
the car all but undrivable in the day time. If you are going to use Armor
All, make sure your dash isn't designed to be intentionally dull (or use the
dull finish version of Armor All).
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Re: Armor All on dashboard: Good or bad?
On 2/15/04 2:02 PM, in article JfQXb.151$8Z6.6891@eagle.america.net, "J.
Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote:
> One of the young engineers in my department at work is regularly telling
> people to avoid applying Armor All Protectant to their cars' dashboards. He
> says that instead of preventing cracks in a car's dashboard it will actually
> cause them. I've used Armor All on my vehicles' dashboards for 27 years and
> have yet to experience a single crack in any of them to date. In fact, they
> all looked like new when I sold or traded them. The dashboard on one of my
> cars, a 1990 Nissan 300ZX that I still own, looks like new to this day.
> There isn't the first indication that any cracking is about to occur within
> any region of the car's dashboard. Or any other plastic parts that were
> protected with Armor All shortly after I purchased the car. Have any of you
> guys experienced dashboard cracking with your Honda, or other type of
> vehicle, that you actually believe was caused by a protectant rather than
> neglect from a previous owner or something? J. Perry
>
>
I've never had a dashboard crack with or without Armor All. I did have to
get a dashboard rug for a Nissan 240sx because the Armor All made it shine
instead of the original dull finish. As it turned out, the dullness was
necessary. Glare from the shiny dash reflecting onto the windshield made
the car all but undrivable in the day time. If you are going to use Armor
All, make sure your dash isn't designed to be intentionally dull (or use the
dull finish version of Armor All).
Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote:
> One of the young engineers in my department at work is regularly telling
> people to avoid applying Armor All Protectant to their cars' dashboards. He
> says that instead of preventing cracks in a car's dashboard it will actually
> cause them. I've used Armor All on my vehicles' dashboards for 27 years and
> have yet to experience a single crack in any of them to date. In fact, they
> all looked like new when I sold or traded them. The dashboard on one of my
> cars, a 1990 Nissan 300ZX that I still own, looks like new to this day.
> There isn't the first indication that any cracking is about to occur within
> any region of the car's dashboard. Or any other plastic parts that were
> protected with Armor All shortly after I purchased the car. Have any of you
> guys experienced dashboard cracking with your Honda, or other type of
> vehicle, that you actually believe was caused by a protectant rather than
> neglect from a previous owner or something? J. Perry
>
>
I've never had a dashboard crack with or without Armor All. I did have to
get a dashboard rug for a Nissan 240sx because the Armor All made it shine
instead of the original dull finish. As it turned out, the dullness was
necessary. Glare from the shiny dash reflecting onto the windshield made
the car all but undrivable in the day time. If you are going to use Armor
All, make sure your dash isn't designed to be intentionally dull (or use the
dull finish version of Armor All).
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Re: Armor All on dashboard: Good or bad?
On 2/15/04 2:02 PM, in article JfQXb.151$8Z6.6891@eagle.america.net, "J.
Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote:
> One of the young engineers in my department at work is regularly telling
> people to avoid applying Armor All Protectant to their cars' dashboards. He
> says that instead of preventing cracks in a car's dashboard it will actually
> cause them. I've used Armor All on my vehicles' dashboards for 27 years and
> have yet to experience a single crack in any of them to date. In fact, they
> all looked like new when I sold or traded them. The dashboard on one of my
> cars, a 1990 Nissan 300ZX that I still own, looks like new to this day.
> There isn't the first indication that any cracking is about to occur within
> any region of the car's dashboard. Or any other plastic parts that were
> protected with Armor All shortly after I purchased the car. Have any of you
> guys experienced dashboard cracking with your Honda, or other type of
> vehicle, that you actually believe was caused by a protectant rather than
> neglect from a previous owner or something? J. Perry
>
>
I've never had a dashboard crack with or without Armor All. I did have to
get a dashboard rug for a Nissan 240sx because the Armor All made it shine
instead of the original dull finish. As it turned out, the dullness was
necessary. Glare from the shiny dash reflecting onto the windshield made
the car all but undrivable in the day time. If you are going to use Armor
All, make sure your dash isn't designed to be intentionally dull (or use the
dull finish version of Armor All).
Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote:
> One of the young engineers in my department at work is regularly telling
> people to avoid applying Armor All Protectant to their cars' dashboards. He
> says that instead of preventing cracks in a car's dashboard it will actually
> cause them. I've used Armor All on my vehicles' dashboards for 27 years and
> have yet to experience a single crack in any of them to date. In fact, they
> all looked like new when I sold or traded them. The dashboard on one of my
> cars, a 1990 Nissan 300ZX that I still own, looks like new to this day.
> There isn't the first indication that any cracking is about to occur within
> any region of the car's dashboard. Or any other plastic parts that were
> protected with Armor All shortly after I purchased the car. Have any of you
> guys experienced dashboard cracking with your Honda, or other type of
> vehicle, that you actually believe was caused by a protectant rather than
> neglect from a previous owner or something? J. Perry
>
>
I've never had a dashboard crack with or without Armor All. I did have to
get a dashboard rug for a Nissan 240sx because the Armor All made it shine
instead of the original dull finish. As it turned out, the dullness was
necessary. Glare from the shiny dash reflecting onto the windshield made
the car all but undrivable in the day time. If you are going to use Armor
All, make sure your dash isn't designed to be intentionally dull (or use the
dull finish version of Armor All).
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Re: Armor All on dashboard: Good or bad?
"J. Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote in
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> One of the young engineers in my department at work is regularly
> telling people to avoid applying Armor All Protectant to their cars'
> dashboards. He says that instead of preventing cracks in a car's
> dashboard it will actually cause them. I've used Armor All on my
> vehicles' dashboards for 27 years and have yet to experience a
> single crack in any of them to date.
Well, who are you going to believe, your young engineer or your own
experience???? Did you really need to ask that question?
news:JfQXb.151$8Z6.6891@eagle.america.net:
> One of the young engineers in my department at work is regularly
> telling people to avoid applying Armor All Protectant to their cars'
> dashboards. He says that instead of preventing cracks in a car's
> dashboard it will actually cause them. I've used Armor All on my
> vehicles' dashboards for 27 years and have yet to experience a
> single crack in any of them to date.
Well, who are you going to believe, your young engineer or your own
experience???? Did you really need to ask that question?
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Re: Armor All on dashboard: Good or bad?
"J. Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote in
news:JfQXb.151$8Z6.6891@eagle.america.net:
> One of the young engineers in my department at work is regularly
> telling people to avoid applying Armor All Protectant to their cars'
> dashboards. He says that instead of preventing cracks in a car's
> dashboard it will actually cause them. I've used Armor All on my
> vehicles' dashboards for 27 years and have yet to experience a
> single crack in any of them to date.
Well, who are you going to believe, your young engineer or your own
experience???? Did you really need to ask that question?
news:JfQXb.151$8Z6.6891@eagle.america.net:
> One of the young engineers in my department at work is regularly
> telling people to avoid applying Armor All Protectant to their cars'
> dashboards. He says that instead of preventing cracks in a car's
> dashboard it will actually cause them. I've used Armor All on my
> vehicles' dashboards for 27 years and have yet to experience a
> single crack in any of them to date.
Well, who are you going to believe, your young engineer or your own
experience???? Did you really need to ask that question?
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Re: Armor All on dashboard: Good or bad?
"J. Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote in
news:JfQXb.151$8Z6.6891@eagle.america.net:
> One of the young engineers in my department at work is regularly
> telling people to avoid applying Armor All Protectant to their cars'
> dashboards. He says that instead of preventing cracks in a car's
> dashboard it will actually cause them. I've used Armor All on my
> vehicles' dashboards for 27 years and have yet to experience a
> single crack in any of them to date.
Well, who are you going to believe, your young engineer or your own
experience???? Did you really need to ask that question?
news:JfQXb.151$8Z6.6891@eagle.america.net:
> One of the young engineers in my department at work is regularly
> telling people to avoid applying Armor All Protectant to their cars'
> dashboards. He says that instead of preventing cracks in a car's
> dashboard it will actually cause them. I've used Armor All on my
> vehicles' dashboards for 27 years and have yet to experience a
> single crack in any of them to date.
Well, who are you going to believe, your young engineer or your own
experience???? Did you really need to ask that question?
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Re: Armor All on dashboard: Good or bad?
"J. Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote in message
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> One of the young engineers in my department at work is regularly telling
> people to avoid applying Armor All Protectant to their cars' dashboards.
So, which is older, your personal experience with the product, or the young
engineer? Besides, if you have not had any bad experiences, using this
product, why even consider the breeze coming out of your co-workers mouth?
--
Brian
www.accesswave.ca/~orion
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Re: Armor All on dashboard: Good or bad?
"J. Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote in message
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> One of the young engineers in my department at work is regularly telling
> people to avoid applying Armor All Protectant to their cars' dashboards.
So, which is older, your personal experience with the product, or the young
engineer? Besides, if you have not had any bad experiences, using this
product, why even consider the breeze coming out of your co-workers mouth?
--
Brian
www.accesswave.ca/~orion