(Anecdotal) Fit only getting 27 MPG?
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Re: (Anecdotal) Fit only getting 27 MPG?
"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in
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> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
> news:hZomi.4158$225.3840@trndny03...
>>I was at a gas station/convenience store getting a cuppa and flirting
>>with
>> the 20 year olds behind the counter when a Fit came in. At fisrt I
>> thought it was an Si and then saw the 4 doors.
>>
>> "Nice Car"
>>
>> "Honda lied"
>>
>> "How so?"
>>
>> The guy had driven from Connecticut to near the Vt border at highway
>> speeds, a trip of 75 miles, and had to put in 2.76 gallons of gas.
>>
>> 75/2.76=27.17 MPG HUH?! I get 21 MPG overall with an older Supra
>> that isn't quite running 100% and has a marginal AT besides!
>>
>> I said jokinigly that he should keep his foot out of it! He said he
>> barely gets over 30 MPG overall, and since this is his first real
>> trip with the car he expected to at least be in the high 30's. It
>> wasn't that warm and he didn't have the AC one when he pulled in for
>> gas.
>>
>> Now, with an '87 Corolla Carb'd on a 95 degree day, I got 45 MPG at
>> 75 MPH with the AC on full blast, back in the day!
>>
>> He also said when it's cold he barely makes it to 28 MPG...
>>
>>
> There is a distinct possibility something is wrong with his Fit. Off
> and on bad fuel economy (usually not even breaking 40 mpg) is a topic
> on Toyota Prius forums and a few common causes have been identified.
> There is the perennial problem of underinflated tires and the
> "operator error" of leaving the defroster on (not knowing that means
> the A/C is running in mild weather). Parking brake misadjustment has
> taken it's toll, and some Prius cars have suddenly improved fuel
> economy 20-30% when the injectors were replaced. Sometimes the cause
> is never found.
>
> Mike
>
Some drivers unconsciously speed up and slow down;it seems they cannot
maintain a constant speed even on a level roadway.That will adversely
affect mileage.
I've ridden with more than a few of them,and it's very annoying.
Driving behind them is even more annoying.
Also,the Fit may not have been fully "broken in" yet.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
news:XOSdnbdZi6VC1wfbnZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@sedona.net:
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
> news:hZomi.4158$225.3840@trndny03...
>>I was at a gas station/convenience store getting a cuppa and flirting
>>with
>> the 20 year olds behind the counter when a Fit came in. At fisrt I
>> thought it was an Si and then saw the 4 doors.
>>
>> "Nice Car"
>>
>> "Honda lied"
>>
>> "How so?"
>>
>> The guy had driven from Connecticut to near the Vt border at highway
>> speeds, a trip of 75 miles, and had to put in 2.76 gallons of gas.
>>
>> 75/2.76=27.17 MPG HUH?! I get 21 MPG overall with an older Supra
>> that isn't quite running 100% and has a marginal AT besides!
>>
>> I said jokinigly that he should keep his foot out of it! He said he
>> barely gets over 30 MPG overall, and since this is his first real
>> trip with the car he expected to at least be in the high 30's. It
>> wasn't that warm and he didn't have the AC one when he pulled in for
>> gas.
>>
>> Now, with an '87 Corolla Carb'd on a 95 degree day, I got 45 MPG at
>> 75 MPH with the AC on full blast, back in the day!
>>
>> He also said when it's cold he barely makes it to 28 MPG...
>>
>>
> There is a distinct possibility something is wrong with his Fit. Off
> and on bad fuel economy (usually not even breaking 40 mpg) is a topic
> on Toyota Prius forums and a few common causes have been identified.
> There is the perennial problem of underinflated tires and the
> "operator error" of leaving the defroster on (not knowing that means
> the A/C is running in mild weather). Parking brake misadjustment has
> taken it's toll, and some Prius cars have suddenly improved fuel
> economy 20-30% when the injectors were replaced. Sometimes the cause
> is never found.
>
> Mike
>
Some drivers unconsciously speed up and slow down;it seems they cannot
maintain a constant speed even on a level roadway.That will adversely
affect mileage.
I've ridden with more than a few of them,and it's very annoying.
Driving behind them is even more annoying.
Also,the Fit may not have been fully "broken in" yet.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
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Re: (Anecdotal) Fit only getting 27 MPG?
"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
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> JXStern wrote:
> <snip for clarity>
>> Knock 500 pounds of weight off the Fit and it will get 20% better
>> mileage, too. Honda *has* to start paying attention to weight.
>
> they pretty much can't. no manufacturer can unless los federales stop
> serving the oilcos's interests by requiring heavier & heavier vehicles in
> the name of "safety". if "safety" were the real goal, helmets, 5-point
> harnesses and roll cages would be mandatory.
At the expense of creature comforts and ease of use. But I agree with ya...
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Re: (Anecdotal) Fit only getting 27 MPG?
"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
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> JXStern wrote:
> <snip for clarity>
>> Knock 500 pounds of weight off the Fit and it will get 20% better
>> mileage, too. Honda *has* to start paying attention to weight.
>
> they pretty much can't. no manufacturer can unless los federales stop
> serving the oilcos's interests by requiring heavier & heavier vehicles in
> the name of "safety". if "safety" were the real goal, helmets, 5-point
> harnesses and roll cages would be mandatory.
At the expense of creature comforts and ease of use. But I agree with ya...
--
Phil
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Re: (Anecdotal) Fit only getting 27 MPG?
"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
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> JXStern wrote:
> <snip for clarity>
>> Knock 500 pounds of weight off the Fit and it will get 20% better
>> mileage, too. Honda *has* to start paying attention to weight.
>
> they pretty much can't. no manufacturer can unless los federales stop
> serving the oilcos's interests by requiring heavier & heavier vehicles in
> the name of "safety". if "safety" were the real goal, helmets, 5-point
> harnesses and roll cages would be mandatory.
At the expense of creature comforts and ease of use. But I agree with ya...
--
Phil
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Re: (Anecdotal) Fit only getting 27 MPG?
"Robert A. Cunningham" <infojunkie@dslextreme.com> wrote in
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>
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
> news:hZomi.4158$225.3840@trndny03...
>>I was at a gas station/convenience store getting a cuppa and flirting
>>with
>> the 20 year olds behind the counter when a Fit came in. At fisrt I
>> thought it was an Si and then saw the 4 doors.
>>
>> "Nice Car"
>>
>> "Honda lied"
>>
>> "How so?"
>>
>> The guy had driven from Connecticut to near the Vt border at highway
>> speeds, a trip of 75 miles, and had to put in 2.76 gallons of gas.
>>
>> 75/2.76=27.17 MPG HUH?! I get 21 MPG overall with an older Supra
>> that isn't quite running 100% and has a marginal AT besides!
>>
>> I said jokinigly that he should keep his foot out of it! He said he
>> barely gets over 30 MPG overall, and since this is his first real
>> trip with the car he expected to at least be in the high 30's. It
>> wasn't that warm and he didn't have the AC one when he pulled in for
>> gas.
>>
>> Now, with an '87 Corolla Carb'd on a 95 degree day, I got 45 MPG at
>> 75 MPH with the AC on full blast, back in the day!
>>
>> He also said when it's cold he barely makes it to 28 MPG...
>
> Well, since we are talking anecdotal mileage, I should report that so
> far I have averaged 35.69 MPH
Miles per HOUR? ;-)
that makes for a really long trip.....almost 30 hrs to go 1065 miles! ;-)
(I know you meant MPG..)
> with just over 1065 miles. I have a Fit
> Sport 5 speed manual transmission. I'm always conscious of driving
> for economy, and I try to time the stoplight, whenever possible and
> practical. I am more than satisfield with my mileage, but it would be
> less if I drove with a heavy foot. Consumer Reports averaged 34 MPH
> overall with their 5 speed.
>
> Robert A. Cunningham
>>
>
>
>
It's odd that a person would stop for a fill-up that was less than 3
gallons.
What's the tank capacity on your Fit?
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
news:139l5gff1d3331b@corp.supernews.com:
>
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
> news:hZomi.4158$225.3840@trndny03...
>>I was at a gas station/convenience store getting a cuppa and flirting
>>with
>> the 20 year olds behind the counter when a Fit came in. At fisrt I
>> thought it was an Si and then saw the 4 doors.
>>
>> "Nice Car"
>>
>> "Honda lied"
>>
>> "How so?"
>>
>> The guy had driven from Connecticut to near the Vt border at highway
>> speeds, a trip of 75 miles, and had to put in 2.76 gallons of gas.
>>
>> 75/2.76=27.17 MPG HUH?! I get 21 MPG overall with an older Supra
>> that isn't quite running 100% and has a marginal AT besides!
>>
>> I said jokinigly that he should keep his foot out of it! He said he
>> barely gets over 30 MPG overall, and since this is his first real
>> trip with the car he expected to at least be in the high 30's. It
>> wasn't that warm and he didn't have the AC one when he pulled in for
>> gas.
>>
>> Now, with an '87 Corolla Carb'd on a 95 degree day, I got 45 MPG at
>> 75 MPH with the AC on full blast, back in the day!
>>
>> He also said when it's cold he barely makes it to 28 MPG...
>
> Well, since we are talking anecdotal mileage, I should report that so
> far I have averaged 35.69 MPH
Miles per HOUR? ;-)
that makes for a really long trip.....almost 30 hrs to go 1065 miles! ;-)
(I know you meant MPG..)
> with just over 1065 miles. I have a Fit
> Sport 5 speed manual transmission. I'm always conscious of driving
> for economy, and I try to time the stoplight, whenever possible and
> practical. I am more than satisfield with my mileage, but it would be
> less if I drove with a heavy foot. Consumer Reports averaged 34 MPH
> overall with their 5 speed.
>
> Robert A. Cunningham
>>
>
>
>
It's odd that a person would stop for a fill-up that was less than 3
gallons.
What's the tank capacity on your Fit?
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
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Re: (Anecdotal) Fit only getting 27 MPG?
"Robert A. Cunningham" <infojunkie@dslextreme.com> wrote in
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>
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
> news:hZomi.4158$225.3840@trndny03...
>>I was at a gas station/convenience store getting a cuppa and flirting
>>with
>> the 20 year olds behind the counter when a Fit came in. At fisrt I
>> thought it was an Si and then saw the 4 doors.
>>
>> "Nice Car"
>>
>> "Honda lied"
>>
>> "How so?"
>>
>> The guy had driven from Connecticut to near the Vt border at highway
>> speeds, a trip of 75 miles, and had to put in 2.76 gallons of gas.
>>
>> 75/2.76=27.17 MPG HUH?! I get 21 MPG overall with an older Supra
>> that isn't quite running 100% and has a marginal AT besides!
>>
>> I said jokinigly that he should keep his foot out of it! He said he
>> barely gets over 30 MPG overall, and since this is his first real
>> trip with the car he expected to at least be in the high 30's. It
>> wasn't that warm and he didn't have the AC one when he pulled in for
>> gas.
>>
>> Now, with an '87 Corolla Carb'd on a 95 degree day, I got 45 MPG at
>> 75 MPH with the AC on full blast, back in the day!
>>
>> He also said when it's cold he barely makes it to 28 MPG...
>
> Well, since we are talking anecdotal mileage, I should report that so
> far I have averaged 35.69 MPH
Miles per HOUR? ;-)
that makes for a really long trip.....almost 30 hrs to go 1065 miles! ;-)
(I know you meant MPG..)
> with just over 1065 miles. I have a Fit
> Sport 5 speed manual transmission. I'm always conscious of driving
> for economy, and I try to time the stoplight, whenever possible and
> practical. I am more than satisfield with my mileage, but it would be
> less if I drove with a heavy foot. Consumer Reports averaged 34 MPH
> overall with their 5 speed.
>
> Robert A. Cunningham
>>
>
>
>
It's odd that a person would stop for a fill-up that was less than 3
gallons.
What's the tank capacity on your Fit?
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
news:139l5gff1d3331b@corp.supernews.com:
>
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
> news:hZomi.4158$225.3840@trndny03...
>>I was at a gas station/convenience store getting a cuppa and flirting
>>with
>> the 20 year olds behind the counter when a Fit came in. At fisrt I
>> thought it was an Si and then saw the 4 doors.
>>
>> "Nice Car"
>>
>> "Honda lied"
>>
>> "How so?"
>>
>> The guy had driven from Connecticut to near the Vt border at highway
>> speeds, a trip of 75 miles, and had to put in 2.76 gallons of gas.
>>
>> 75/2.76=27.17 MPG HUH?! I get 21 MPG overall with an older Supra
>> that isn't quite running 100% and has a marginal AT besides!
>>
>> I said jokinigly that he should keep his foot out of it! He said he
>> barely gets over 30 MPG overall, and since this is his first real
>> trip with the car he expected to at least be in the high 30's. It
>> wasn't that warm and he didn't have the AC one when he pulled in for
>> gas.
>>
>> Now, with an '87 Corolla Carb'd on a 95 degree day, I got 45 MPG at
>> 75 MPH with the AC on full blast, back in the day!
>>
>> He also said when it's cold he barely makes it to 28 MPG...
>
> Well, since we are talking anecdotal mileage, I should report that so
> far I have averaged 35.69 MPH
Miles per HOUR? ;-)
that makes for a really long trip.....almost 30 hrs to go 1065 miles! ;-)
(I know you meant MPG..)
> with just over 1065 miles. I have a Fit
> Sport 5 speed manual transmission. I'm always conscious of driving
> for economy, and I try to time the stoplight, whenever possible and
> practical. I am more than satisfield with my mileage, but it would be
> less if I drove with a heavy foot. Consumer Reports averaged 34 MPH
> overall with their 5 speed.
>
> Robert A. Cunningham
>>
>
>
>
It's odd that a person would stop for a fill-up that was less than 3
gallons.
What's the tank capacity on your Fit?
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
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Re: (Anecdotal) Fit only getting 27 MPG?
"Robert A. Cunningham" <infojunkie@dslextreme.com> wrote in
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>
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
> news:hZomi.4158$225.3840@trndny03...
>>I was at a gas station/convenience store getting a cuppa and flirting
>>with
>> the 20 year olds behind the counter when a Fit came in. At fisrt I
>> thought it was an Si and then saw the 4 doors.
>>
>> "Nice Car"
>>
>> "Honda lied"
>>
>> "How so?"
>>
>> The guy had driven from Connecticut to near the Vt border at highway
>> speeds, a trip of 75 miles, and had to put in 2.76 gallons of gas.
>>
>> 75/2.76=27.17 MPG HUH?! I get 21 MPG overall with an older Supra
>> that isn't quite running 100% and has a marginal AT besides!
>>
>> I said jokinigly that he should keep his foot out of it! He said he
>> barely gets over 30 MPG overall, and since this is his first real
>> trip with the car he expected to at least be in the high 30's. It
>> wasn't that warm and he didn't have the AC one when he pulled in for
>> gas.
>>
>> Now, with an '87 Corolla Carb'd on a 95 degree day, I got 45 MPG at
>> 75 MPH with the AC on full blast, back in the day!
>>
>> He also said when it's cold he barely makes it to 28 MPG...
>
> Well, since we are talking anecdotal mileage, I should report that so
> far I have averaged 35.69 MPH
Miles per HOUR? ;-)
that makes for a really long trip.....almost 30 hrs to go 1065 miles! ;-)
(I know you meant MPG..)
> with just over 1065 miles. I have a Fit
> Sport 5 speed manual transmission. I'm always conscious of driving
> for economy, and I try to time the stoplight, whenever possible and
> practical. I am more than satisfield with my mileage, but it would be
> less if I drove with a heavy foot. Consumer Reports averaged 34 MPH
> overall with their 5 speed.
>
> Robert A. Cunningham
>>
>
>
>
It's odd that a person would stop for a fill-up that was less than 3
gallons.
What's the tank capacity on your Fit?
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
news:139l5gff1d3331b@corp.supernews.com:
>
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
> news:hZomi.4158$225.3840@trndny03...
>>I was at a gas station/convenience store getting a cuppa and flirting
>>with
>> the 20 year olds behind the counter when a Fit came in. At fisrt I
>> thought it was an Si and then saw the 4 doors.
>>
>> "Nice Car"
>>
>> "Honda lied"
>>
>> "How so?"
>>
>> The guy had driven from Connecticut to near the Vt border at highway
>> speeds, a trip of 75 miles, and had to put in 2.76 gallons of gas.
>>
>> 75/2.76=27.17 MPG HUH?! I get 21 MPG overall with an older Supra
>> that isn't quite running 100% and has a marginal AT besides!
>>
>> I said jokinigly that he should keep his foot out of it! He said he
>> barely gets over 30 MPG overall, and since this is his first real
>> trip with the car he expected to at least be in the high 30's. It
>> wasn't that warm and he didn't have the AC one when he pulled in for
>> gas.
>>
>> Now, with an '87 Corolla Carb'd on a 95 degree day, I got 45 MPG at
>> 75 MPH with the AC on full blast, back in the day!
>>
>> He also said when it's cold he barely makes it to 28 MPG...
>
> Well, since we are talking anecdotal mileage, I should report that so
> far I have averaged 35.69 MPH
Miles per HOUR? ;-)
that makes for a really long trip.....almost 30 hrs to go 1065 miles! ;-)
(I know you meant MPG..)
> with just over 1065 miles. I have a Fit
> Sport 5 speed manual transmission. I'm always conscious of driving
> for economy, and I try to time the stoplight, whenever possible and
> practical. I am more than satisfield with my mileage, but it would be
> less if I drove with a heavy foot. Consumer Reports averaged 34 MPH
> overall with their 5 speed.
>
> Robert A. Cunningham
>>
>
>
>
It's odd that a person would stop for a fill-up that was less than 3
gallons.
What's the tank capacity on your Fit?
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
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Re: (Anecdotal) Fit only getting 27 MPG?
"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
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> "Robert A. Cunningham" <infojunkie@dslextreme.com> wrote in
> news:139l5gff1d3331b@corp.supernews.com:
>
>>
>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
>> news:hZomi.4158$225.3840@trndny03...
>>>I was at a gas station/convenience store getting a cuppa and flirting
>>>with
>>> the 20 year olds behind the counter when a Fit came in. At fisrt I
>>> thought it was an Si and then saw the 4 doors.
>>>
>>> "Nice Car"
>>>
>>> "Honda lied"
>>>
>>> "How so?"
>>>
>>> The guy had driven from Connecticut to near the Vt border at highway
>>> speeds, a trip of 75 miles, and had to put in 2.76 gallons of gas.
>>>
>>> 75/2.76=27.17 MPG HUH?! I get 21 MPG overall with an older Supra
>>> that isn't quite running 100% and has a marginal AT besides!
>>>
>>> I said jokinigly that he should keep his foot out of it! He said he
>>> barely gets over 30 MPG overall, and since this is his first real
>>> trip with the car he expected to at least be in the high 30's. It
>>> wasn't that warm and he didn't have the AC one when he pulled in for
>>> gas.
>>>
>>> Now, with an '87 Corolla Carb'd on a 95 degree day, I got 45 MPG at
>>> 75 MPH with the AC on full blast, back in the day!
>>>
>>> He also said when it's cold he barely makes it to 28 MPG...
>>
>> Well, since we are talking anecdotal mileage, I should report that so
>> far I have averaged 35.69 MPH
>
> Miles per HOUR? ;-)
> that makes for a really long trip.....almost 30 hrs to go 1065 miles! ;-)
> (I know you meant MPG..)
>
>> with just over 1065 miles. I have a Fit
>> Sport 5 speed manual transmission. I'm always conscious of driving
>> for economy, and I try to time the stoplight, whenever possible and
>> practical. I am more than satisfield with my mileage, but it would be
>> less if I drove with a heavy foot. Consumer Reports averaged 34 MPH
>> overall with their 5 speed.
>>
>> Robert A. Cunningham
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> It's odd that a person would stop for a fill-up that was less than 3
> gallons.
>
> What's the tank capacity on your Fit?
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net
The manual says the fuel capacity is 10.83 gallons. When the low fuel
indicator lights up there is around 2 gallons remaining. You're correct, it
is odd to fill up that soon. Obviously, the more times you fill up, the
more accurate the overall mileage is. If I were the owner, I would not be
concerned on any mileage figure that was based upon less than ten gallons,
let alone three. OH, and yes, I meant to say 35.69 MPG, not MPH. I drive
a little slow, BUT NOT THAT SLOW
Robert A. Cunningham
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Re: (Anecdotal) Fit only getting 27 MPG?
"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
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> "Robert A. Cunningham" <infojunkie@dslextreme.com> wrote in
> news:139l5gff1d3331b@corp.supernews.com:
>
>>
>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
>> news:hZomi.4158$225.3840@trndny03...
>>>I was at a gas station/convenience store getting a cuppa and flirting
>>>with
>>> the 20 year olds behind the counter when a Fit came in. At fisrt I
>>> thought it was an Si and then saw the 4 doors.
>>>
>>> "Nice Car"
>>>
>>> "Honda lied"
>>>
>>> "How so?"
>>>
>>> The guy had driven from Connecticut to near the Vt border at highway
>>> speeds, a trip of 75 miles, and had to put in 2.76 gallons of gas.
>>>
>>> 75/2.76=27.17 MPG HUH?! I get 21 MPG overall with an older Supra
>>> that isn't quite running 100% and has a marginal AT besides!
>>>
>>> I said jokinigly that he should keep his foot out of it! He said he
>>> barely gets over 30 MPG overall, and since this is his first real
>>> trip with the car he expected to at least be in the high 30's. It
>>> wasn't that warm and he didn't have the AC one when he pulled in for
>>> gas.
>>>
>>> Now, with an '87 Corolla Carb'd on a 95 degree day, I got 45 MPG at
>>> 75 MPH with the AC on full blast, back in the day!
>>>
>>> He also said when it's cold he barely makes it to 28 MPG...
>>
>> Well, since we are talking anecdotal mileage, I should report that so
>> far I have averaged 35.69 MPH
>
> Miles per HOUR? ;-)
> that makes for a really long trip.....almost 30 hrs to go 1065 miles! ;-)
> (I know you meant MPG..)
>
>> with just over 1065 miles. I have a Fit
>> Sport 5 speed manual transmission. I'm always conscious of driving
>> for economy, and I try to time the stoplight, whenever possible and
>> practical. I am more than satisfield with my mileage, but it would be
>> less if I drove with a heavy foot. Consumer Reports averaged 34 MPH
>> overall with their 5 speed.
>>
>> Robert A. Cunningham
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> It's odd that a person would stop for a fill-up that was less than 3
> gallons.
>
> What's the tank capacity on your Fit?
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net
The manual says the fuel capacity is 10.83 gallons. When the low fuel
indicator lights up there is around 2 gallons remaining. You're correct, it
is odd to fill up that soon. Obviously, the more times you fill up, the
more accurate the overall mileage is. If I were the owner, I would not be
concerned on any mileage figure that was based upon less than ten gallons,
let alone three. OH, and yes, I meant to say 35.69 MPG, not MPH. I drive
a little slow, BUT NOT THAT SLOW
Robert A. Cunningham
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Re: (Anecdotal) Fit only getting 27 MPG?
"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
news:Xns996EB7783CB56jyanikkuanet@64.209.0.87...
> "Robert A. Cunningham" <infojunkie@dslextreme.com> wrote in
> news:139l5gff1d3331b@corp.supernews.com:
>
>>
>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
>> news:hZomi.4158$225.3840@trndny03...
>>>I was at a gas station/convenience store getting a cuppa and flirting
>>>with
>>> the 20 year olds behind the counter when a Fit came in. At fisrt I
>>> thought it was an Si and then saw the 4 doors.
>>>
>>> "Nice Car"
>>>
>>> "Honda lied"
>>>
>>> "How so?"
>>>
>>> The guy had driven from Connecticut to near the Vt border at highway
>>> speeds, a trip of 75 miles, and had to put in 2.76 gallons of gas.
>>>
>>> 75/2.76=27.17 MPG HUH?! I get 21 MPG overall with an older Supra
>>> that isn't quite running 100% and has a marginal AT besides!
>>>
>>> I said jokinigly that he should keep his foot out of it! He said he
>>> barely gets over 30 MPG overall, and since this is his first real
>>> trip with the car he expected to at least be in the high 30's. It
>>> wasn't that warm and he didn't have the AC one when he pulled in for
>>> gas.
>>>
>>> Now, with an '87 Corolla Carb'd on a 95 degree day, I got 45 MPG at
>>> 75 MPH with the AC on full blast, back in the day!
>>>
>>> He also said when it's cold he barely makes it to 28 MPG...
>>
>> Well, since we are talking anecdotal mileage, I should report that so
>> far I have averaged 35.69 MPH
>
> Miles per HOUR? ;-)
> that makes for a really long trip.....almost 30 hrs to go 1065 miles! ;-)
> (I know you meant MPG..)
>
>> with just over 1065 miles. I have a Fit
>> Sport 5 speed manual transmission. I'm always conscious of driving
>> for economy, and I try to time the stoplight, whenever possible and
>> practical. I am more than satisfield with my mileage, but it would be
>> less if I drove with a heavy foot. Consumer Reports averaged 34 MPH
>> overall with their 5 speed.
>>
>> Robert A. Cunningham
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> It's odd that a person would stop for a fill-up that was less than 3
> gallons.
>
> What's the tank capacity on your Fit?
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net
The manual says the fuel capacity is 10.83 gallons. When the low fuel
indicator lights up there is around 2 gallons remaining. You're correct, it
is odd to fill up that soon. Obviously, the more times you fill up, the
more accurate the overall mileage is. If I were the owner, I would not be
concerned on any mileage figure that was based upon less than ten gallons,
let alone three. OH, and yes, I meant to say 35.69 MPG, not MPH. I drive
a little slow, BUT NOT THAT SLOW
Robert A. Cunningham
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Re: (Anecdotal) Fit only getting 27 MPG?
Robert A. Cunningham wrote:
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
> news:hZomi.4158$225.3840@trndny03...
>
>>I was at a gas station/convenience store getting a cuppa and flirting with
>>the 20 year olds behind the counter when a Fit came in. At fisrt I thought
>>it was an Si and then saw the 4 doors.
>>
>>"Nice Car"
>>
>>"Honda lied"
>>
>>"How so?"
>>
>>The guy had driven from Connecticut to near the Vt border at highway
>>speeds, a trip of 75 miles, and had to put in 2.76 gallons of gas.
>>
>>75/2.76=27.17 MPG HUH?! I get 21 MPG overall with an older Supra that
>>isn't quite running 100% and has a marginal AT besides!
>>
>>I said jokinigly that he should keep his foot out of it! He said he barely
>>gets over 30 MPG overall, and since this is his first real trip with the
>>car he expected to at least be in the high 30's. It wasn't that warm and
>>he didn't have the AC one when he pulled in for gas.
>>
>>Now, with an '87 Corolla Carb'd on a 95 degree day, I got 45 MPG at 75 MPH
>>with the AC on full blast, back in the day!
>>
>>He also said when it's cold he barely makes it to 28 MPG...
>
>
> Well, since we are talking anecdotal mileage, I should report that so far I
> have averaged 35.69 MPH with just over 1065 miles. I have a Fit Sport 5
> speed manual transmission. I'm always conscious of driving for economy, and
> I try to time the stoplight, whenever possible and practical. I am more than
> satisfield with my mileage, but it would be less if I drove with a heavy
> foot. Consumer Reports averaged 34 MPH overall with their 5 speed.
>
> Robert A. Cunningham
>
>
>
I drove a Fit, and it seemed like an OK, car, but the Civic LX
*automatic* parked next to it was rated at 40mpg highway, while the 5
speed Fit I drove was rated at 36. I think it's short gearing at fault.
Ironically, my '95 Civic EX has gearing that is way too tall, but at
least it gets great mileage...
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
> news:hZomi.4158$225.3840@trndny03...
>
>>I was at a gas station/convenience store getting a cuppa and flirting with
>>the 20 year olds behind the counter when a Fit came in. At fisrt I thought
>>it was an Si and then saw the 4 doors.
>>
>>"Nice Car"
>>
>>"Honda lied"
>>
>>"How so?"
>>
>>The guy had driven from Connecticut to near the Vt border at highway
>>speeds, a trip of 75 miles, and had to put in 2.76 gallons of gas.
>>
>>75/2.76=27.17 MPG HUH?! I get 21 MPG overall with an older Supra that
>>isn't quite running 100% and has a marginal AT besides!
>>
>>I said jokinigly that he should keep his foot out of it! He said he barely
>>gets over 30 MPG overall, and since this is his first real trip with the
>>car he expected to at least be in the high 30's. It wasn't that warm and
>>he didn't have the AC one when he pulled in for gas.
>>
>>Now, with an '87 Corolla Carb'd on a 95 degree day, I got 45 MPG at 75 MPH
>>with the AC on full blast, back in the day!
>>
>>He also said when it's cold he barely makes it to 28 MPG...
>
>
> Well, since we are talking anecdotal mileage, I should report that so far I
> have averaged 35.69 MPH with just over 1065 miles. I have a Fit Sport 5
> speed manual transmission. I'm always conscious of driving for economy, and
> I try to time the stoplight, whenever possible and practical. I am more than
> satisfield with my mileage, but it would be less if I drove with a heavy
> foot. Consumer Reports averaged 34 MPH overall with their 5 speed.
>
> Robert A. Cunningham
>
>
>
I drove a Fit, and it seemed like an OK, car, but the Civic LX
*automatic* parked next to it was rated at 40mpg highway, while the 5
speed Fit I drove was rated at 36. I think it's short gearing at fault.
Ironically, my '95 Civic EX has gearing that is way too tall, but at
least it gets great mileage...
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Re: (Anecdotal) Fit only getting 27 MPG?
Robert A. Cunningham wrote:
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
> news:hZomi.4158$225.3840@trndny03...
>
>>I was at a gas station/convenience store getting a cuppa and flirting with
>>the 20 year olds behind the counter when a Fit came in. At fisrt I thought
>>it was an Si and then saw the 4 doors.
>>
>>"Nice Car"
>>
>>"Honda lied"
>>
>>"How so?"
>>
>>The guy had driven from Connecticut to near the Vt border at highway
>>speeds, a trip of 75 miles, and had to put in 2.76 gallons of gas.
>>
>>75/2.76=27.17 MPG HUH?! I get 21 MPG overall with an older Supra that
>>isn't quite running 100% and has a marginal AT besides!
>>
>>I said jokinigly that he should keep his foot out of it! He said he barely
>>gets over 30 MPG overall, and since this is his first real trip with the
>>car he expected to at least be in the high 30's. It wasn't that warm and
>>he didn't have the AC one when he pulled in for gas.
>>
>>Now, with an '87 Corolla Carb'd on a 95 degree day, I got 45 MPG at 75 MPH
>>with the AC on full blast, back in the day!
>>
>>He also said when it's cold he barely makes it to 28 MPG...
>
>
> Well, since we are talking anecdotal mileage, I should report that so far I
> have averaged 35.69 MPH with just over 1065 miles. I have a Fit Sport 5
> speed manual transmission. I'm always conscious of driving for economy, and
> I try to time the stoplight, whenever possible and practical. I am more than
> satisfield with my mileage, but it would be less if I drove with a heavy
> foot. Consumer Reports averaged 34 MPH overall with their 5 speed.
>
> Robert A. Cunningham
>
>
>
I drove a Fit, and it seemed like an OK, car, but the Civic LX
*automatic* parked next to it was rated at 40mpg highway, while the 5
speed Fit I drove was rated at 36. I think it's short gearing at fault.
Ironically, my '95 Civic EX has gearing that is way too tall, but at
least it gets great mileage...
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
> news:hZomi.4158$225.3840@trndny03...
>
>>I was at a gas station/convenience store getting a cuppa and flirting with
>>the 20 year olds behind the counter when a Fit came in. At fisrt I thought
>>it was an Si and then saw the 4 doors.
>>
>>"Nice Car"
>>
>>"Honda lied"
>>
>>"How so?"
>>
>>The guy had driven from Connecticut to near the Vt border at highway
>>speeds, a trip of 75 miles, and had to put in 2.76 gallons of gas.
>>
>>75/2.76=27.17 MPG HUH?! I get 21 MPG overall with an older Supra that
>>isn't quite running 100% and has a marginal AT besides!
>>
>>I said jokinigly that he should keep his foot out of it! He said he barely
>>gets over 30 MPG overall, and since this is his first real trip with the
>>car he expected to at least be in the high 30's. It wasn't that warm and
>>he didn't have the AC one when he pulled in for gas.
>>
>>Now, with an '87 Corolla Carb'd on a 95 degree day, I got 45 MPG at 75 MPH
>>with the AC on full blast, back in the day!
>>
>>He also said when it's cold he barely makes it to 28 MPG...
>
>
> Well, since we are talking anecdotal mileage, I should report that so far I
> have averaged 35.69 MPH with just over 1065 miles. I have a Fit Sport 5
> speed manual transmission. I'm always conscious of driving for economy, and
> I try to time the stoplight, whenever possible and practical. I am more than
> satisfield with my mileage, but it would be less if I drove with a heavy
> foot. Consumer Reports averaged 34 MPH overall with their 5 speed.
>
> Robert A. Cunningham
>
>
>
I drove a Fit, and it seemed like an OK, car, but the Civic LX
*automatic* parked next to it was rated at 40mpg highway, while the 5
speed Fit I drove was rated at 36. I think it's short gearing at fault.
Ironically, my '95 Civic EX has gearing that is way too tall, but at
least it gets great mileage...
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Re: (Anecdotal) Fit only getting 27 MPG?
Robert A. Cunningham wrote:
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
> news:hZomi.4158$225.3840@trndny03...
>
>>I was at a gas station/convenience store getting a cuppa and flirting with
>>the 20 year olds behind the counter when a Fit came in. At fisrt I thought
>>it was an Si and then saw the 4 doors.
>>
>>"Nice Car"
>>
>>"Honda lied"
>>
>>"How so?"
>>
>>The guy had driven from Connecticut to near the Vt border at highway
>>speeds, a trip of 75 miles, and had to put in 2.76 gallons of gas.
>>
>>75/2.76=27.17 MPG HUH?! I get 21 MPG overall with an older Supra that
>>isn't quite running 100% and has a marginal AT besides!
>>
>>I said jokinigly that he should keep his foot out of it! He said he barely
>>gets over 30 MPG overall, and since this is his first real trip with the
>>car he expected to at least be in the high 30's. It wasn't that warm and
>>he didn't have the AC one when he pulled in for gas.
>>
>>Now, with an '87 Corolla Carb'd on a 95 degree day, I got 45 MPG at 75 MPH
>>with the AC on full blast, back in the day!
>>
>>He also said when it's cold he barely makes it to 28 MPG...
>
>
> Well, since we are talking anecdotal mileage, I should report that so far I
> have averaged 35.69 MPH with just over 1065 miles. I have a Fit Sport 5
> speed manual transmission. I'm always conscious of driving for economy, and
> I try to time the stoplight, whenever possible and practical. I am more than
> satisfield with my mileage, but it would be less if I drove with a heavy
> foot. Consumer Reports averaged 34 MPH overall with their 5 speed.
>
> Robert A. Cunningham
>
>
>
I drove a Fit, and it seemed like an OK, car, but the Civic LX
*automatic* parked next to it was rated at 40mpg highway, while the 5
speed Fit I drove was rated at 36. I think it's short gearing at fault.
Ironically, my '95 Civic EX has gearing that is way too tall, but at
least it gets great mileage...
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
> news:hZomi.4158$225.3840@trndny03...
>
>>I was at a gas station/convenience store getting a cuppa and flirting with
>>the 20 year olds behind the counter when a Fit came in. At fisrt I thought
>>it was an Si and then saw the 4 doors.
>>
>>"Nice Car"
>>
>>"Honda lied"
>>
>>"How so?"
>>
>>The guy had driven from Connecticut to near the Vt border at highway
>>speeds, a trip of 75 miles, and had to put in 2.76 gallons of gas.
>>
>>75/2.76=27.17 MPG HUH?! I get 21 MPG overall with an older Supra that
>>isn't quite running 100% and has a marginal AT besides!
>>
>>I said jokinigly that he should keep his foot out of it! He said he barely
>>gets over 30 MPG overall, and since this is his first real trip with the
>>car he expected to at least be in the high 30's. It wasn't that warm and
>>he didn't have the AC one when he pulled in for gas.
>>
>>Now, with an '87 Corolla Carb'd on a 95 degree day, I got 45 MPG at 75 MPH
>>with the AC on full blast, back in the day!
>>
>>He also said when it's cold he barely makes it to 28 MPG...
>
>
> Well, since we are talking anecdotal mileage, I should report that so far I
> have averaged 35.69 MPH with just over 1065 miles. I have a Fit Sport 5
> speed manual transmission. I'm always conscious of driving for economy, and
> I try to time the stoplight, whenever possible and practical. I am more than
> satisfield with my mileage, but it would be less if I drove with a heavy
> foot. Consumer Reports averaged 34 MPH overall with their 5 speed.
>
> Robert A. Cunningham
>
>
>
I drove a Fit, and it seemed like an OK, car, but the Civic LX
*automatic* parked next to it was rated at 40mpg highway, while the 5
speed Fit I drove was rated at 36. I think it's short gearing at fault.
Ironically, my '95 Civic EX has gearing that is way too tall, but at
least it gets great mileage...
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Re: (Anecdotal) Fit only getting 27 MPG?
mjc13<REMOVETHIS> wrote:
> Robert A. Cunningham wrote:
>
>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
>> news:hZomi.4158$225.3840@trndny03...
>>
>>> I was at a gas station/convenience store getting a cuppa and flirting
>>> with
>>> the 20 year olds behind the counter when a Fit came in. At fisrt I
>>> thought
>>> it was an Si and then saw the 4 doors.
>>>
>>> "Nice Car"
>>>
>>> "Honda lied"
>>>
>>> "How so?"
>>>
>>> The guy had driven from Connecticut to near the Vt border at highway
>>> speeds, a trip of 75 miles, and had to put in 2.76 gallons of gas.
>>>
>>> 75/2.76=27.17 MPG HUH?! I get 21 MPG overall with an older Supra that
>>> isn't quite running 100% and has a marginal AT besides!
>>>
>>> I said jokinigly that he should keep his foot out of it! He said he
>>> barely
>>> gets over 30 MPG overall, and since this is his first real trip with the
>>> car he expected to at least be in the high 30's. It wasn't that warm and
>>> he didn't have the AC one when he pulled in for gas.
>>>
>>> Now, with an '87 Corolla Carb'd on a 95 degree day, I got 45 MPG at
>>> 75 MPH
>>> with the AC on full blast, back in the day!
>>>
>>> He also said when it's cold he barely makes it to 28 MPG...
>>
>>
>> Well, since we are talking anecdotal mileage, I should report that so
>> far I have averaged 35.69 MPH with just over 1065 miles. I have a Fit
>> Sport 5 speed manual transmission. I'm always conscious of driving
>> for economy, and I try to time the stoplight, whenever possible and
>> practical. I am more than satisfield with my mileage, but it would be
>> less if I drove with a heavy foot. Consumer Reports averaged 34 MPH
>> overall with their 5 speed.
>>
>> Robert A. Cunningham
>>
>>
>>
>
> I drove a Fit, and it seemed like an OK, car, but the Civic LX
> *automatic* parked next to it was rated at 40mpg highway, while the 5
> speed Fit I drove was rated at 36. I think it's short gearing at fault.
> Ironically, my '95 Civic EX has gearing that is way too tall, but at
> least it gets great mileage...
you keep posting that opinion, but you won't answer the question. what
rpm's are you pulling at 70mph?
> Robert A. Cunningham wrote:
>
>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
>> news:hZomi.4158$225.3840@trndny03...
>>
>>> I was at a gas station/convenience store getting a cuppa and flirting
>>> with
>>> the 20 year olds behind the counter when a Fit came in. At fisrt I
>>> thought
>>> it was an Si and then saw the 4 doors.
>>>
>>> "Nice Car"
>>>
>>> "Honda lied"
>>>
>>> "How so?"
>>>
>>> The guy had driven from Connecticut to near the Vt border at highway
>>> speeds, a trip of 75 miles, and had to put in 2.76 gallons of gas.
>>>
>>> 75/2.76=27.17 MPG HUH?! I get 21 MPG overall with an older Supra that
>>> isn't quite running 100% and has a marginal AT besides!
>>>
>>> I said jokinigly that he should keep his foot out of it! He said he
>>> barely
>>> gets over 30 MPG overall, and since this is his first real trip with the
>>> car he expected to at least be in the high 30's. It wasn't that warm and
>>> he didn't have the AC one when he pulled in for gas.
>>>
>>> Now, with an '87 Corolla Carb'd on a 95 degree day, I got 45 MPG at
>>> 75 MPH
>>> with the AC on full blast, back in the day!
>>>
>>> He also said when it's cold he barely makes it to 28 MPG...
>>
>>
>> Well, since we are talking anecdotal mileage, I should report that so
>> far I have averaged 35.69 MPH with just over 1065 miles. I have a Fit
>> Sport 5 speed manual transmission. I'm always conscious of driving
>> for economy, and I try to time the stoplight, whenever possible and
>> practical. I am more than satisfield with my mileage, but it would be
>> less if I drove with a heavy foot. Consumer Reports averaged 34 MPH
>> overall with their 5 speed.
>>
>> Robert A. Cunningham
>>
>>
>>
>
> I drove a Fit, and it seemed like an OK, car, but the Civic LX
> *automatic* parked next to it was rated at 40mpg highway, while the 5
> speed Fit I drove was rated at 36. I think it's short gearing at fault.
> Ironically, my '95 Civic EX has gearing that is way too tall, but at
> least it gets great mileage...
you keep posting that opinion, but you won't answer the question. what
rpm's are you pulling at 70mph?
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Re: (Anecdotal) Fit only getting 27 MPG?
mjc13<REMOVETHIS> wrote:
> Robert A. Cunningham wrote:
>
>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
>> news:hZomi.4158$225.3840@trndny03...
>>
>>> I was at a gas station/convenience store getting a cuppa and flirting
>>> with
>>> the 20 year olds behind the counter when a Fit came in. At fisrt I
>>> thought
>>> it was an Si and then saw the 4 doors.
>>>
>>> "Nice Car"
>>>
>>> "Honda lied"
>>>
>>> "How so?"
>>>
>>> The guy had driven from Connecticut to near the Vt border at highway
>>> speeds, a trip of 75 miles, and had to put in 2.76 gallons of gas.
>>>
>>> 75/2.76=27.17 MPG HUH?! I get 21 MPG overall with an older Supra that
>>> isn't quite running 100% and has a marginal AT besides!
>>>
>>> I said jokinigly that he should keep his foot out of it! He said he
>>> barely
>>> gets over 30 MPG overall, and since this is his first real trip with the
>>> car he expected to at least be in the high 30's. It wasn't that warm and
>>> he didn't have the AC one when he pulled in for gas.
>>>
>>> Now, with an '87 Corolla Carb'd on a 95 degree day, I got 45 MPG at
>>> 75 MPH
>>> with the AC on full blast, back in the day!
>>>
>>> He also said when it's cold he barely makes it to 28 MPG...
>>
>>
>> Well, since we are talking anecdotal mileage, I should report that so
>> far I have averaged 35.69 MPH with just over 1065 miles. I have a Fit
>> Sport 5 speed manual transmission. I'm always conscious of driving
>> for economy, and I try to time the stoplight, whenever possible and
>> practical. I am more than satisfield with my mileage, but it would be
>> less if I drove with a heavy foot. Consumer Reports averaged 34 MPH
>> overall with their 5 speed.
>>
>> Robert A. Cunningham
>>
>>
>>
>
> I drove a Fit, and it seemed like an OK, car, but the Civic LX
> *automatic* parked next to it was rated at 40mpg highway, while the 5
> speed Fit I drove was rated at 36. I think it's short gearing at fault.
> Ironically, my '95 Civic EX has gearing that is way too tall, but at
> least it gets great mileage...
you keep posting that opinion, but you won't answer the question. what
rpm's are you pulling at 70mph?
> Robert A. Cunningham wrote:
>
>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
>> news:hZomi.4158$225.3840@trndny03...
>>
>>> I was at a gas station/convenience store getting a cuppa and flirting
>>> with
>>> the 20 year olds behind the counter when a Fit came in. At fisrt I
>>> thought
>>> it was an Si and then saw the 4 doors.
>>>
>>> "Nice Car"
>>>
>>> "Honda lied"
>>>
>>> "How so?"
>>>
>>> The guy had driven from Connecticut to near the Vt border at highway
>>> speeds, a trip of 75 miles, and had to put in 2.76 gallons of gas.
>>>
>>> 75/2.76=27.17 MPG HUH?! I get 21 MPG overall with an older Supra that
>>> isn't quite running 100% and has a marginal AT besides!
>>>
>>> I said jokinigly that he should keep his foot out of it! He said he
>>> barely
>>> gets over 30 MPG overall, and since this is his first real trip with the
>>> car he expected to at least be in the high 30's. It wasn't that warm and
>>> he didn't have the AC one when he pulled in for gas.
>>>
>>> Now, with an '87 Corolla Carb'd on a 95 degree day, I got 45 MPG at
>>> 75 MPH
>>> with the AC on full blast, back in the day!
>>>
>>> He also said when it's cold he barely makes it to 28 MPG...
>>
>>
>> Well, since we are talking anecdotal mileage, I should report that so
>> far I have averaged 35.69 MPH with just over 1065 miles. I have a Fit
>> Sport 5 speed manual transmission. I'm always conscious of driving
>> for economy, and I try to time the stoplight, whenever possible and
>> practical. I am more than satisfield with my mileage, but it would be
>> less if I drove with a heavy foot. Consumer Reports averaged 34 MPH
>> overall with their 5 speed.
>>
>> Robert A. Cunningham
>>
>>
>>
>
> I drove a Fit, and it seemed like an OK, car, but the Civic LX
> *automatic* parked next to it was rated at 40mpg highway, while the 5
> speed Fit I drove was rated at 36. I think it's short gearing at fault.
> Ironically, my '95 Civic EX has gearing that is way too tall, but at
> least it gets great mileage...
you keep posting that opinion, but you won't answer the question. what
rpm's are you pulling at 70mph?