Acura did some work yesterday on my car. I was told they found a nail
in one of the tires, and they repaired it for free. Later that day, I
noticed the receipt said the part used to repair the tire was a Tire
Plug.

Today I called up the Service Rep. who confirmed that they did plug
the tire from the outside and did not remove the tire from the rim.
He says it should last the lifetime of the tire and they have never
had any problems with plugs and he even uses them on his own tires.

Is it true that Tire Plugs are a safe and reliable way to repair a
tire?

 

"JayN" <JReality@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2f73f1ba-6fc8-4bd1-ac9e-6f6f947dba74@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> Acura did some work yesterday on my car. I was told they found a nail
> in one of the tires, and they repaired it for free. Later that day, I
> noticed the receipt said the part used to repair the tire was a Tire
> Plug.
>
> Today I called up the Service Rep. who confirmed that they did plug
> the tire from the outside and did not remove the tire from the rim.
> He says it should last the lifetime of the tire and they have never
> had any problems with plugs and he even uses them on his own tires.
>
> Is it true that Tire Plugs are a safe and reliable way to repair a
> tire?

There's a lot of disagreement on this-- some saying you should patch from
inside (in addition to or instead of plugging) while others say it's fine to
plug.

I've plugged about a dozen nail holes in the last 35 years or so on a
variety of passenger and light truck steel belted radial tires(using a plain
vanilla retail tire plugging kit)-- and only had one problem. The plug
didn't seal properly from the get-go so I pulled it out and replugged it
with another plug and all was fine.

YMMV

 

I haven't found the plug yet, so I don't know exactly where it is
located, but wondering.... would a plug still work in the case of the
hole being on the driving surface of the tire itself as opposed to
within the grooves of the tire's driving surface.

Seems to me if the nail hole were not within the grooves of the tire,
then the plug would be directly in contact with the road with each
spin of the tire, and would wear out relatively quickly, is that
true?


On Sep 5, 12:08 pm, "Flatus Johnson" <fj@nonet> wrote:
> "JayN" <JReal...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:2f73f1ba-6fc8-4bd1-ac9e-6f6f947dba74@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Acura did some work yesterday on my car. I was told they found a nail
> > in one of the tires, and they repaired it for free. Later that day, I
> > noticed the receipt said the part used to repair the tire was a Tire
> > Plug.
>
> > Today I called up the Service Rep. who confirmed that they did plug
> > the tire from the outside and did not remove the tire from the rim.
> > He says it should last the lifetime of the tire and they have never
> > had any problems with plugs and he even uses them on his own tires.
>
> > Is it true that Tire Plugs are a safe and reliable way to repair a
> > tire?
>
> There's a lot of disagreement on this-- some saying you should patch from
> inside (in addition to or instead of plugging) while others say it's fineto
> plug.
>
> I've plugged about a dozen nail holes in the last 35 years or so on a
> variety of passenger and light truck steel belted radial tires(using a plain
> vanilla retail tire plugging kit)-- and only had one problem. The plug
> didn't seal properly from the get-go so I pulled it out and replugged it
> with another plug and all was fine.
>
> YMMV

 

"JayN" <JReality@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d5109cb9-518c-4cf9-bf0d-2accfa2613b9@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
I haven't found the plug yet, so I don't know exactly where it is
located, but wondering.... would a plug still work in the case of the
hole being on the driving surface of the tire itself as opposed to
within the grooves of the tire's driving surface.

Seems to me if the nail hole were not within the grooves of the tire,
then the plug would be directly in contact with the road with each
spin of the tire, and would wear out relatively quickly, is that
true?

----

No more quickly then the adjacent tire surface.


On Sep 5, 12:08 pm, "Flatus Johnson" <fj@nonet> wrote:
> "JayN" <JReal...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:2f73f1ba-6fc8-4bd1-ac9e-6f6f947dba74@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Acura did some work yesterday on my car. I was told they found a
> > nail
> > in one of the tires, and they repaired it for free. Later that
> > day, I
> > noticed the receipt said the part used to repair the tire was a
> > Tire
> > Plug.
>
> > Today I called up the Service Rep. who confirmed that they did
> > plug
> > the tire from the outside and did not remove the tire from the
> > rim.
> > He says it should last the lifetime of the tire and they have
> > never
> > had any problems with plugs and he even uses them on his own
> > tires.
>
> > Is it true that Tire Plugs are a safe and reliable way to repair a
> > tire?
>
> There's a lot of disagreement on this-- some saying you should patch
> from
> inside (in addition to or instead of plugging) while others say it's
> fine to
> plug.
>
> I've plugged about a dozen nail holes in the last 35 years or so on
> a
> variety of passenger and light truck steel belted radial tires(using
> a plain
> vanilla retail tire plugging kit)-- and only had one problem. The
> plug
> didn't seal properly from the get-go so I pulled it out and
> replugged it
> with another plug and all was fine.
>
> YMMV

 

JayN wrote:
> Acura did some work yesterday on my car. I was told they found a nail
> in one of the tires, and they repaired it for free. Later that day, I
> noticed the receipt said the part used to repair the tire was a Tire
> Plug.
>
> Today I called up the Service Rep. who confirmed that they did plug
> the tire from the outside and did not remove the tire from the rim.
> He says it should last the lifetime of the tire and they have never
> had any problems with plugs and he even uses them on his own tires.
>
> Is it true that Tire Plugs are a safe and reliable way to repair a
> tire?
Hi,
So what's wrong with using plug? One more thing you can do is patch it
from nside the tire. If you're so concerned, get another new tire.
I wouldn't worry about it if it is done properly.

 

JayN <JReality@hotmail.com> wrote in news:2f73f1ba-6fc8-4bd1-ac9e-
6f6f947dba74@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

> Acura did some work yesterday on my car.



No they didn't. Acura did nothing at all to your car. Zero.

The independent company that sells and services Acura vehicles on the other
hand...



> I was told they found a nail
> in one of the tires, and they repaired it for free.



For FREE!?

FREE? You mean they fixed it for nothing? You got something from a
$tealer$hip for FREE? You never said THAT before. At least not in the other
group you posted to and which you seem to have abandoned when you didn't
get the response you were hoping for.

It seems to me that you were hoping for a response that promised dire and
deadly repercussions, such anticipated damage which would aid you in a
lawsuit against the guilty $tealer$hip.




> Later that day, I
> noticed the receipt said the part used to repair the tire was a Tire
> Plug.
>
> Today I called up the Service Rep. who confirmed that they did plug
> the tire from the outside and did not remove the tire from the rim.
> He says it should last the lifetime of the tire and they have never
> had any problems with plugs and he even uses them on his own tires.
>
> Is it true that Tire Plugs are a safe and reliable way to repair a
> tire?



You know, if I were the dealer and I knew what you're doing just now, I'd
never again ever do anything for you for free, nor would I ever again tell
you if I found something minor and fixed it. You might try to cut my head
off for my efforts. Or sue me. Or who knows what.

Do you imagine that somebody who would do something for you for free would
be trying to rip you off?


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

 

In article <Xns9B10DE1DDECE0tegger@208.90.168.18>,
Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote:

> > I was told they found a nail
> > in one of the tires, and they repaired it for free.
>
>
>
> For FREE!?
>
> FREE? You mean they fixed it for nothing? You got something from a
> $tealer$hip for FREE?

Tegger, I get lots of things from my Honda dealer for free.

Just a few months ago, it was the second replacement idle air control
valve. Yep. For free. They did the first replacement a year earlier
for free, too. Van is an 02 model, currently with 62K on the clock. So
both replacements were well out of warranty.

I love it when I hear people make the cry of "stealership!". It shows a
stubborn lack of understanding on their part of how the world works. Do
I use the dealership? Yep. Do they take care of me? Absolutely. Have
done so for 20 years now.

My favorite story is taking my 79 Civic to this same dealership back in
86 or so, with a rusted front beam. I didn't know what was wrong, but
they sure did. They wouldn't let me take it home, said to come back
tomorrow, all fixed. I did, and it was.

Based on that, I bought a second 79 Civic for my now-wife. It developed
the same problem, and we had the same result.

And after that came the rusting gas tanks, due to bad design. Handled.

 

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
91CF97.21564405092008@news.x-privat.org:

> In article <Xns9B10DE1DDECE0tegger@208.90.168.18>,
> Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote:
>
>> > I was told they found a nail
>> > in one of the tires, and they repaired it for free.
>>
>>
>>
>> For FREE!?
>>
>> FREE? You mean they fixed it for nothing? You got something from a
>> $tealer$hip for FREE?
>
> Tegger, I get lots of things from my Honda dealer for free.



I was being (VERY) sarcastic.

Our "JayN" idiot appears to be one of those persons who regard franchised
dealers as legal robbers, hence the tone of my response.



>
> Just a few months ago, it was the second replacement idle air control
> valve. Yep. For free. They did the first replacement a year earlier
> for free, too. Van is an 02 model, currently with 62K on the clock. So
> both replacements were well out of warranty.
>
> I love it when I hear people make the cry of "stealership!". It shows a
> stubborn lack of understanding on their part of how the world works. Do
> I use the dealership? Yep. Do they take care of me? Absolutely. Have
> done so for 20 years now.
>
> My favorite story is taking my 79 Civic to this same dealership back in
> 86 or so, with a rusted front beam. I didn't know what was wrong, but
> they sure did. They wouldn't let me take it home, said to come back
> tomorrow, all fixed. I did, and it was.
>
> Based on that, I bought a second 79 Civic for my now-wife. It developed
> the same problem, and we had the same result.
>
> And after that came the rusting gas tanks, due to bad design. Handled.
>



My local Acura dealer has always been very fair with me, including
admitting when certain work was beyond their abilities or economics.



--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

 

JayN wrote:
> Acura did some work yesterday on my car. I was told they found a nail
> in one of the tires, and they repaired it for free. Later that day, I
> noticed the receipt said the part used to repair the tire was a Tire
> Plug.
>
> Today I called up the Service Rep. who confirmed that they did plug
> the tire from the outside and did not remove the tire from the rim.
> He says it should last the lifetime of the tire and they have never
> had any problems with plugs and he even uses them on his own tires.
>
> Is it true that Tire Plugs are a safe and reliable way to repair a
> tire?

yes.

 

Tegger wrote:
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
> 91CF97.21564405092008@news.x-privat.org:
>
>> In article <Xns9B10DE1DDECE0tegger@208.90.168.18>,
>> Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote:
>>
>>>> I was told they found a nail
>>>> in one of the tires, and they repaired it for free.
>>>
>>>
>>> For FREE!?
>>>
>>> FREE? You mean they fixed it for nothing? You got something from a
>>> $tealer$hip for FREE?
>> Tegger, I get lots of things from my Honda dealer for free.
>
>
>
> I was being (VERY) sarcastic.
>
> Our "JayN" idiot appears to be one of those persons who regard franchised
> dealers as legal robbers, hence the tone of my response.
>
>
>
>> Just a few months ago, it was the second replacement idle air control
>> valve. Yep. For free. They did the first replacement a year earlier
>> for free, too. Van is an 02 model, currently with 62K on the clock. So
>> both replacements were well out of warranty.
>>
>> I love it when I hear people make the cry of "stealership!". It shows a
>> stubborn lack of understanding on their part of how the world works. Do
>> I use the dealership? Yep. Do they take care of me? Absolutely. Have
>> done so for 20 years now.
>>
>> My favorite story is taking my 79 Civic to this same dealership back in
>> 86 or so, with a rusted front beam. I didn't know what was wrong, but
>> they sure did. They wouldn't let me take it home, said to come back
>> tomorrow, all fixed. I did, and it was.
>>
>> Based on that, I bought a second 79 Civic for my now-wife. It developed
>> the same problem, and we had the same result.
>>
>> And after that came the rusting gas tanks, due to bad design. Handled.
>>
>
>
>
> My local Acura dealer has always been very fair with me, including
> admitting when certain work was beyond their abilities or economics.
>
>
>
Hmmm,
My Honda dealership is very fair, friendly place too. They do good work,
their techs are knowledgable, when I leave car for the day to servie it,
they of course will give me a ride across town to my work but instead
they give me transit token so I can ride light rail saving time. Of
course they give me a ride to the station. Dealerships are mode of
people, not heartless robots. Remember it's two way street in human
relations.

 

Tony Hwang wrote:
> Tegger wrote:
>> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
>> 91CF97.21564405092008@news.x-privat.org:
>>
>>> In article <Xns9B10DE1DDECE0tegger@208.90.168.18>,
>>> Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I was told they found a nail
>>>>> in one of the tires, and they repaired it for free.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For FREE!?
>>>>
>>>> FREE? You mean they fixed it for nothing? You got something from a
>>>> $tealer$hip for FREE?
>>> Tegger, I get lots of things from my Honda dealer for free.
>>
>>
>>
>> I was being (VERY) sarcastic.
>>
>> Our "JayN" idiot appears to be one of those persons who regard
>> franchised dealers as legal robbers, hence the tone of my response.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Just a few months ago, it was the second replacement idle air control
>>> valve. Yep. For free. They did the first replacement a year
>>> earlier for free, too. Van is an 02 model, currently with 62K on the
>>> clock. So both replacements were well out of warranty.
>>>
>>> I love it when I hear people make the cry of "stealership!". It
>>> shows a stubborn lack of understanding on their part of how the world
>>> works. Do I use the dealership? Yep. Do they take care of me?
>>> Absolutely. Have done so for 20 years now.
>>>
>>> My favorite story is taking my 79 Civic to this same dealership back
>>> in 86 or so, with a rusted front beam. I didn't know what was wrong,
>>> but they sure did. They wouldn't let me take it home, said to come
>>> back tomorrow, all fixed. I did, and it was.
>>>
>>> Based on that, I bought a second 79 Civic for my now-wife. It
>>> developed the same problem, and we had the same result.
>>>
>>> And after that came the rusting gas tanks, due to bad design. Handled.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> My local Acura dealer has always been very fair with me, including
>> admitting when certain work was beyond their abilities or economics.
>>
>>
>>
> Hmmm,
> My Honda dealership is very fair, friendly place too. They do good work,
> their techs are knowledgable, when I leave car for the day to servie it,
> they of course will give me a ride across town to my work but instead
> they give me transit token so I can ride light rail saving time. Of
> course they give me a ride to the station. Dealerships are mode of
> people, not heartless robots. Remember it's two way street in human
> relations.

dealers that rip you off [for example] for whole new braking systems
after only 35k miles are neither fair nor friendly.

 

"Tony Hwang" wrote

> My Honda dealership is very fair, friendly place too. They do good work,
> their techs are knowledgable, when I leave car for the day to servie it,
> they of course will give me a ride across town to my work but instead they
> give me transit token so I can ride light rail saving time. Of course they
> give me a ride to the station. Dealerships are mode of people, not
> heartless robots. Remember it's two way street in human relations.

The last time I took my car in for (40K miles) maintenance at my Honda
dealership (3 months ago), the salesman, sales manager, and the service
manager all came out to see me, having heard I was going to be soon moving
away. They all wished me well, told me they'd miss me, wishing there were
more customers like me. The sales manager even offered to help me buy a new
car at a Honda-AutoNation place where I'm going. I'll miss them, too,
because they've been good and fair to me over the 17 years I've dealt with
them, including buying three new cars from them. So yeah -- good dealerships
are out there.

 

In article <r-mdnb-hRbSmalzVnZ2dnUVZ_u6dnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:

> dealers that rip you off [for example] for whole new braking systems
> after only 35k miles are neither fair nor friendly.

You know, going back to my dealership story: there's exactly one tech I
let touch my Hondas anymore. I don't know any of the others (with one
exception, below), which isn't a huge deal, but I *do* know this one
guy. We chat while he works on my car, believe it or not. He's very
conscientious, and he's very good.

Plus, the service manager is a square guy. Well....to me, anyway.

There is one tech that this same dealership has allowed to continue on
for many years. This guy is an out-and-out crook. They just let it
happen. *I* know about it, but I know a bit more about the internals of
the shop than the average customer. I also know more about cars, so
this guy wouldn't get far with me--but as I said, I let one guy touch my
Hondas. And it ain't him.

So some of the "stealership" comments are true, to an extent, but
believe it or not it's not the dealership per se. It may be one guy.

 

jim beam wrote:
> Tony Hwang wrote:
>> Tegger wrote:
>>> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
>>> 91CF97.21564405092008@news.x-privat.org:
>>>
>>>> In article <Xns9B10DE1DDECE0tegger@208.90.168.18>,
>>>> Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I was told they found a nail
>>>>>> in one of the tires, and they repaired it for free.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For FREE!?
>>>>>
>>>>> FREE? You mean they fixed it for nothing? You got something from a
>>>>> $tealer$hip for FREE?
>>>> Tegger, I get lots of things from my Honda dealer for free.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was being (VERY) sarcastic.
>>>
>>> Our "JayN" idiot appears to be one of those persons who regard
>>> franchised dealers as legal robbers, hence the tone of my response.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Just a few months ago, it was the second replacement idle air
>>>> control valve. Yep. For free. They did the first replacement a
>>>> year earlier for free, too. Van is an 02 model, currently with 62K
>>>> on the clock. So both replacements were well out of warranty.
>>>>
>>>> I love it when I hear people make the cry of "stealership!". It
>>>> shows a stubborn lack of understanding on their part of how the
>>>> world works. Do I use the dealership? Yep. Do they take care of
>>>> me? Absolutely. Have done so for 20 years now.
>>>>
>>>> My favorite story is taking my 79 Civic to this same dealership back
>>>> in 86 or so, with a rusted front beam. I didn't know what was
>>>> wrong, but they sure did. They wouldn't let me take it home, said
>>>> to come back tomorrow, all fixed. I did, and it was.
>>>>
>>>> Based on that, I bought a second 79 Civic for my now-wife. It
>>>> developed the same problem, and we had the same result.
>>>>
>>>> And after that came the rusting gas tanks, due to bad design. Handled.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My local Acura dealer has always been very fair with me, including
>>> admitting when certain work was beyond their abilities or economics.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Hmmm,
>> My Honda dealership is very fair, friendly place too. They do good
>> work, their techs are knowledgable, when I leave car for the day to
>> servie it,
>> they of course will give me a ride across town to my work but instead
>> they give me transit token so I can ride light rail saving time. Of
>> course they give me a ride to the station. Dealerships are mode of
>> people, not heartless robots. Remember it's two way street in human
>> relations.
>
> dealers that rip you off [for example] for whole new braking systems
> after only 35k miles are neither fair nor friendly.
Hi,
If you are talking to me, I never did any brake job done after 35K
miles. At any rate do you think I am stupid/dumb enough to be ripped off?

 

Looks like we have a mind reader here! Tegger, the psychic!

Hi Tegger, You certainly "appear to be" one of those annoying people
who falsely claim to know other people's motives!

I was hoping for a civil response. Thankfully, everyone here isn't as
obnoxious and overbearing as you, Tegger! So I dared ask a question
about tire plugs, and you, in particular, get all bent out of shape
about it and start behaving in an obnoxious manner. Who is the real
idiot here, Tegger?! Hint....look in the mirror!

J.

>
> Our "JayN" idiot appears to be one of those persons who regard franchised
> dealers as legal robbers, hence the tone of my response.
>
>
>It seems to me that you were hoping for a response that promised dire and
>deadly repercussions, such anticipated damage which would aid you in a
>lawsuit against the guilty $tealer$hip. >
>
>
>
>