Accord stalling
02-14-2007 | 03:59 AM
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Re: Accord stalling
"Wizard of Oz" <jpblanc@earthlink.net> wrote in
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> My 1998 Accord 4cyl wants to stall when moving off just after
> starting. It has done this for the past 7 years. I took it to the
> dealership back then and they could not find any thing wrong but the
> car came back with the idle set higher, or it appeared to be. It is
> worse in cold weather as one would expect but will do it in summer as
> well.
>
What's your idle speed from dead cold?
Is the Check Engine light on?
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> My 1998 Accord 4cyl wants to stall when moving off just after
> starting. It has done this for the past 7 years. I took it to the
> dealership back then and they could not find any thing wrong but the
> car came back with the idle set higher, or it appeared to be. It is
> worse in cold weather as one would expect but will do it in summer as
> well.
>
What's your idle speed from dead cold?
Is the Check Engine light on?
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02-14-2007 | 03:59 AM
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Re: Accord stalling
"Wizard of Oz" <jpblanc@earthlink.net> wrote in
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> My 1998 Accord 4cyl wants to stall when moving off just after
> starting. It has done this for the past 7 years. I took it to the
> dealership back then and they could not find any thing wrong but the
> car came back with the idle set higher, or it appeared to be. It is
> worse in cold weather as one would expect but will do it in summer as
> well.
>
What's your idle speed from dead cold?
Is the Check Engine light on?
--
Tegger
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www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
news:M8uAh.1859$Jl.1147@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net:
> My 1998 Accord 4cyl wants to stall when moving off just after
> starting. It has done this for the past 7 years. I took it to the
> dealership back then and they could not find any thing wrong but the
> car came back with the idle set higher, or it appeared to be. It is
> worse in cold weather as one would expect but will do it in summer as
> well.
>
What's your idle speed from dead cold?
Is the Check Engine light on?
--
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02-14-2007 | 05:47 PM
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Re: Accord stalling
"Wizard of Oz" <jpblanc@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> The timing belt is fine and I changed it out about 35k miles ago. If it's
> warmed up it is less likely to stall. It's not that it does it all the
> time. It happened to my son a few days ago because he was unaware how to
> stop it from completely stalling. It wants to stall but if I ease of the
> gas it comes back to idle and I can get going again. This is when it's
> cold. I live in So Cal so it's not really that cold. I have used injector
> cleaner the first time it stalled 7 years ago and that changed nothing. I
> have not used any since. The car was serviced by Honda for the first 100k
> miles and by me after that. It's done 148K now. Does the fuel filter cause
> this sort of problem?
>
> Wiz.
>
No, not the fuel filter. That appears either at odd moments or when trying
to accelerate hard.
I would really want to know if the problem is mixture (probably getting too
lean, if so) or timing - particularly ignition. The timing might be easier
to look at, comparing what you see as you manually open the throttle
compared to a similar Honda that didn't try to stall.
But my suspicion keeps returning to the mixture. Why it's happening, I
wouldn't know, but I think the injection is not keeping up with the added
air when you start to open the throttle. The way you describe the recovery
when you let off the throttle really sounds that way.
Question for the more knowledgable - does the '98 have an MAF or an MAP - or
neither?
Mike
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> The timing belt is fine and I changed it out about 35k miles ago. If it's
> warmed up it is less likely to stall. It's not that it does it all the
> time. It happened to my son a few days ago because he was unaware how to
> stop it from completely stalling. It wants to stall but if I ease of the
> gas it comes back to idle and I can get going again. This is when it's
> cold. I live in So Cal so it's not really that cold. I have used injector
> cleaner the first time it stalled 7 years ago and that changed nothing. I
> have not used any since. The car was serviced by Honda for the first 100k
> miles and by me after that. It's done 148K now. Does the fuel filter cause
> this sort of problem?
>
> Wiz.
>
No, not the fuel filter. That appears either at odd moments or when trying
to accelerate hard.
I would really want to know if the problem is mixture (probably getting too
lean, if so) or timing - particularly ignition. The timing might be easier
to look at, comparing what you see as you manually open the throttle
compared to a similar Honda that didn't try to stall.
But my suspicion keeps returning to the mixture. Why it's happening, I
wouldn't know, but I think the injection is not keeping up with the added
air when you start to open the throttle. The way you describe the recovery
when you let off the throttle really sounds that way.
Question for the more knowledgable - does the '98 have an MAF or an MAP - or
neither?
Mike
02-14-2007 | 05:47 PM
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Re: Accord stalling
"Wizard of Oz" <jpblanc@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> The timing belt is fine and I changed it out about 35k miles ago. If it's
> warmed up it is less likely to stall. It's not that it does it all the
> time. It happened to my son a few days ago because he was unaware how to
> stop it from completely stalling. It wants to stall but if I ease of the
> gas it comes back to idle and I can get going again. This is when it's
> cold. I live in So Cal so it's not really that cold. I have used injector
> cleaner the first time it stalled 7 years ago and that changed nothing. I
> have not used any since. The car was serviced by Honda for the first 100k
> miles and by me after that. It's done 148K now. Does the fuel filter cause
> this sort of problem?
>
> Wiz.
>
No, not the fuel filter. That appears either at odd moments or when trying
to accelerate hard.
I would really want to know if the problem is mixture (probably getting too
lean, if so) or timing - particularly ignition. The timing might be easier
to look at, comparing what you see as you manually open the throttle
compared to a similar Honda that didn't try to stall.
But my suspicion keeps returning to the mixture. Why it's happening, I
wouldn't know, but I think the injection is not keeping up with the added
air when you start to open the throttle. The way you describe the recovery
when you let off the throttle really sounds that way.
Question for the more knowledgable - does the '98 have an MAF or an MAP - or
neither?
Mike
news:vAyAh.2014$tD2.1627@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> The timing belt is fine and I changed it out about 35k miles ago. If it's
> warmed up it is less likely to stall. It's not that it does it all the
> time. It happened to my son a few days ago because he was unaware how to
> stop it from completely stalling. It wants to stall but if I ease of the
> gas it comes back to idle and I can get going again. This is when it's
> cold. I live in So Cal so it's not really that cold. I have used injector
> cleaner the first time it stalled 7 years ago and that changed nothing. I
> have not used any since. The car was serviced by Honda for the first 100k
> miles and by me after that. It's done 148K now. Does the fuel filter cause
> this sort of problem?
>
> Wiz.
>
No, not the fuel filter. That appears either at odd moments or when trying
to accelerate hard.
I would really want to know if the problem is mixture (probably getting too
lean, if so) or timing - particularly ignition. The timing might be easier
to look at, comparing what you see as you manually open the throttle
compared to a similar Honda that didn't try to stall.
But my suspicion keeps returning to the mixture. Why it's happening, I
wouldn't know, but I think the injection is not keeping up with the added
air when you start to open the throttle. The way you describe the recovery
when you let off the throttle really sounds that way.
Question for the more knowledgable - does the '98 have an MAF or an MAP - or
neither?
Mike
02-14-2007 | 05:47 PM
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Re: Accord stalling
"Wizard of Oz" <jpblanc@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> The timing belt is fine and I changed it out about 35k miles ago. If it's
> warmed up it is less likely to stall. It's not that it does it all the
> time. It happened to my son a few days ago because he was unaware how to
> stop it from completely stalling. It wants to stall but if I ease of the
> gas it comes back to idle and I can get going again. This is when it's
> cold. I live in So Cal so it's not really that cold. I have used injector
> cleaner the first time it stalled 7 years ago and that changed nothing. I
> have not used any since. The car was serviced by Honda for the first 100k
> miles and by me after that. It's done 148K now. Does the fuel filter cause
> this sort of problem?
>
> Wiz.
>
No, not the fuel filter. That appears either at odd moments or when trying
to accelerate hard.
I would really want to know if the problem is mixture (probably getting too
lean, if so) or timing - particularly ignition. The timing might be easier
to look at, comparing what you see as you manually open the throttle
compared to a similar Honda that didn't try to stall.
But my suspicion keeps returning to the mixture. Why it's happening, I
wouldn't know, but I think the injection is not keeping up with the added
air when you start to open the throttle. The way you describe the recovery
when you let off the throttle really sounds that way.
Question for the more knowledgable - does the '98 have an MAF or an MAP - or
neither?
Mike
news:vAyAh.2014$tD2.1627@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> The timing belt is fine and I changed it out about 35k miles ago. If it's
> warmed up it is less likely to stall. It's not that it does it all the
> time. It happened to my son a few days ago because he was unaware how to
> stop it from completely stalling. It wants to stall but if I ease of the
> gas it comes back to idle and I can get going again. This is when it's
> cold. I live in So Cal so it's not really that cold. I have used injector
> cleaner the first time it stalled 7 years ago and that changed nothing. I
> have not used any since. The car was serviced by Honda for the first 100k
> miles and by me after that. It's done 148K now. Does the fuel filter cause
> this sort of problem?
>
> Wiz.
>
No, not the fuel filter. That appears either at odd moments or when trying
to accelerate hard.
I would really want to know if the problem is mixture (probably getting too
lean, if so) or timing - particularly ignition. The timing might be easier
to look at, comparing what you see as you manually open the throttle
compared to a similar Honda that didn't try to stall.
But my suspicion keeps returning to the mixture. Why it's happening, I
wouldn't know, but I think the injection is not keeping up with the added
air when you start to open the throttle. The way you describe the recovery
when you let off the throttle really sounds that way.
Question for the more knowledgable - does the '98 have an MAF or an MAP - or
neither?
Mike
02-14-2007 | 05:47 PM
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Re: Accord stalling
"Wizard of Oz" <jpblanc@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> The timing belt is fine and I changed it out about 35k miles ago. If it's
> warmed up it is less likely to stall. It's not that it does it all the
> time. It happened to my son a few days ago because he was unaware how to
> stop it from completely stalling. It wants to stall but if I ease of the
> gas it comes back to idle and I can get going again. This is when it's
> cold. I live in So Cal so it's not really that cold. I have used injector
> cleaner the first time it stalled 7 years ago and that changed nothing. I
> have not used any since. The car was serviced by Honda for the first 100k
> miles and by me after that. It's done 148K now. Does the fuel filter cause
> this sort of problem?
>
> Wiz.
>
No, not the fuel filter. That appears either at odd moments or when trying
to accelerate hard.
I would really want to know if the problem is mixture (probably getting too
lean, if so) or timing - particularly ignition. The timing might be easier
to look at, comparing what you see as you manually open the throttle
compared to a similar Honda that didn't try to stall.
But my suspicion keeps returning to the mixture. Why it's happening, I
wouldn't know, but I think the injection is not keeping up with the added
air when you start to open the throttle. The way you describe the recovery
when you let off the throttle really sounds that way.
Question for the more knowledgable - does the '98 have an MAF or an MAP - or
neither?
Mike
news:vAyAh.2014$tD2.1627@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> The timing belt is fine and I changed it out about 35k miles ago. If it's
> warmed up it is less likely to stall. It's not that it does it all the
> time. It happened to my son a few days ago because he was unaware how to
> stop it from completely stalling. It wants to stall but if I ease of the
> gas it comes back to idle and I can get going again. This is when it's
> cold. I live in So Cal so it's not really that cold. I have used injector
> cleaner the first time it stalled 7 years ago and that changed nothing. I
> have not used any since. The car was serviced by Honda for the first 100k
> miles and by me after that. It's done 148K now. Does the fuel filter cause
> this sort of problem?
>
> Wiz.
>
No, not the fuel filter. That appears either at odd moments or when trying
to accelerate hard.
I would really want to know if the problem is mixture (probably getting too
lean, if so) or timing - particularly ignition. The timing might be easier
to look at, comparing what you see as you manually open the throttle
compared to a similar Honda that didn't try to stall.
But my suspicion keeps returning to the mixture. Why it's happening, I
wouldn't know, but I think the injection is not keeping up with the added
air when you start to open the throttle. The way you describe the recovery
when you let off the throttle really sounds that way.
Question for the more knowledgable - does the '98 have an MAF or an MAP - or
neither?
Mike
02-14-2007 | 06:59 PM
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Re: Accord stalling
Check engine light is not on.
I will check idle speed when the car comes home.
Wiz.
"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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> "Wizard of Oz" <jpblanc@earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:M8uAh.1859$Jl.1147@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net:
>
>> My 1998 Accord 4cyl wants to stall when moving off just after
>> starting. It has done this for the past 7 years. I took it to the
>> dealership back then and they could not find any thing wrong but the
>> car came back with the idle set higher, or it appeared to be. It is
>> worse in cold weather as one would expect but will do it in summer as
>> well.
>>
>
>
> What's your idle speed from dead cold?
>
> Is the Check Engine light on?
>
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
I will check idle speed when the car comes home.
Wiz.
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> "Wizard of Oz" <jpblanc@earthlink.net> wrote in
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>
>> My 1998 Accord 4cyl wants to stall when moving off just after
>> starting. It has done this for the past 7 years. I took it to the
>> dealership back then and they could not find any thing wrong but the
>> car came back with the idle set higher, or it appeared to be. It is
>> worse in cold weather as one would expect but will do it in summer as
>> well.
>>
>
>
> What's your idle speed from dead cold?
>
> Is the Check Engine light on?
>
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
02-14-2007 | 06:59 PM
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Re: Accord stalling
Check engine light is not on.
I will check idle speed when the car comes home.
Wiz.
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> "Wizard of Oz" <jpblanc@earthlink.net> wrote in
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>
>> My 1998 Accord 4cyl wants to stall when moving off just after
>> starting. It has done this for the past 7 years. I took it to the
>> dealership back then and they could not find any thing wrong but the
>> car came back with the idle set higher, or it appeared to be. It is
>> worse in cold weather as one would expect but will do it in summer as
>> well.
>>
>
>
> What's your idle speed from dead cold?
>
> Is the Check Engine light on?
>
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
I will check idle speed when the car comes home.
Wiz.
"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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> "Wizard of Oz" <jpblanc@earthlink.net> wrote in
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>
>> My 1998 Accord 4cyl wants to stall when moving off just after
>> starting. It has done this for the past 7 years. I took it to the
>> dealership back then and they could not find any thing wrong but the
>> car came back with the idle set higher, or it appeared to be. It is
>> worse in cold weather as one would expect but will do it in summer as
>> well.
>>
>
>
> What's your idle speed from dead cold?
>
> Is the Check Engine light on?
>
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
02-14-2007 | 06:59 PM
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Re: Accord stalling
Check engine light is not on.
I will check idle speed when the car comes home.
Wiz.
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> "Wizard of Oz" <jpblanc@earthlink.net> wrote in
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>
>> My 1998 Accord 4cyl wants to stall when moving off just after
>> starting. It has done this for the past 7 years. I took it to the
>> dealership back then and they could not find any thing wrong but the
>> car came back with the idle set higher, or it appeared to be. It is
>> worse in cold weather as one would expect but will do it in summer as
>> well.
>>
>
>
> What's your idle speed from dead cold?
>
> Is the Check Engine light on?
>
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
I will check idle speed when the car comes home.
Wiz.
"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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> "Wizard of Oz" <jpblanc@earthlink.net> wrote in
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>
>> My 1998 Accord 4cyl wants to stall when moving off just after
>> starting. It has done this for the past 7 years. I took it to the
>> dealership back then and they could not find any thing wrong but the
>> car came back with the idle set higher, or it appeared to be. It is
>> worse in cold weather as one would expect but will do it in summer as
>> well.
>>
>
>
> What's your idle speed from dead cold?
>
> Is the Check Engine light on?
>
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
02-14-2007 | 06:59 PM
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Re: Accord stalling
Check engine light is not on.
I will check idle speed when the car comes home.
Wiz.
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> "Wizard of Oz" <jpblanc@earthlink.net> wrote in
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>
>> My 1998 Accord 4cyl wants to stall when moving off just after
>> starting. It has done this for the past 7 years. I took it to the
>> dealership back then and they could not find any thing wrong but the
>> car came back with the idle set higher, or it appeared to be. It is
>> worse in cold weather as one would expect but will do it in summer as
>> well.
>>
>
>
> What's your idle speed from dead cold?
>
> Is the Check Engine light on?
>
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
I will check idle speed when the car comes home.
Wiz.
"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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> "Wizard of Oz" <jpblanc@earthlink.net> wrote in
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>
>> My 1998 Accord 4cyl wants to stall when moving off just after
>> starting. It has done this for the past 7 years. I took it to the
>> dealership back then and they could not find any thing wrong but the
>> car came back with the idle set higher, or it appeared to be. It is
>> worse in cold weather as one would expect but will do it in summer as
>> well.
>>
>
>
> What's your idle speed from dead cold?
>
> Is the Check Engine light on?
>
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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