Accord Brakes
10-31-2003 | 09:58 AM
#16
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Re: Accord Brakes
I had this happen to an 89 Civic Wagon of mine, and it turned out to be a
semi-seized front caliper. Only the bottom of the caliper was sliding, so
when you pressed the brake pedal, all the fluid was being used to extend the
piston on that caliper, pushing the pad diagonally against the rotor. Ruined
the pad, of course, but a bit of sanding and some lubricant fixed the whole
problem.
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
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> My vote is for the master cylinder. My brother had the same symptoms as
> you describe when his master cylinder failed.
>
> And I wouldn't drive the car until it is fixed!
>
> JM wrote:
> >
> > The brakes in my '91 accord have a problem that couldn't be fixed by
> > bleeding the lines. It's something that happens every so many days, or
> > weeks. At times the break pedal goes all the way to the floor. It
usually
> > happens when traveling at a low rate of speed, 40 mph and under.
Pumping
> > the brakes will usually bring them back to normal, but not always.
Usually
> > it doesn't happen after the car has been parked and restarted. This has
> > been going on for the past 6 months without any regular pattern of how
> > often.
> > I don't see any fluid leaks, and the brake fluid level is fine. A
co-worker
> > of mine recommended that I check the equalizing valve. But by reading
what
> > the equalizing valve is for, I don't think that the problem is caused by
it.
> > Does anybody have an idea of what may be wrong with the brakes? Should I
> > replace the master cylinder? Thanks!
semi-seized front caliper. Only the bottom of the caliper was sliding, so
when you pressed the brake pedal, all the fluid was being used to extend the
piston on that caliper, pushing the pad diagonally against the rotor. Ruined
the pad, of course, but a bit of sanding and some lubricant fixed the whole
problem.
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:3FA20458.AE65C3F4@junkmail.com...
> My vote is for the master cylinder. My brother had the same symptoms as
> you describe when his master cylinder failed.
>
> And I wouldn't drive the car until it is fixed!
>
> JM wrote:
> >
> > The brakes in my '91 accord have a problem that couldn't be fixed by
> > bleeding the lines. It's something that happens every so many days, or
> > weeks. At times the break pedal goes all the way to the floor. It
usually
> > happens when traveling at a low rate of speed, 40 mph and under.
Pumping
> > the brakes will usually bring them back to normal, but not always.
Usually
> > it doesn't happen after the car has been parked and restarted. This has
> > been going on for the past 6 months without any regular pattern of how
> > often.
> > I don't see any fluid leaks, and the brake fluid level is fine. A
co-worker
> > of mine recommended that I check the equalizing valve. But by reading
what
> > the equalizing valve is for, I don't think that the problem is caused by
it.
> > Does anybody have an idea of what may be wrong with the brakes? Should I
> > replace the master cylinder? Thanks!
10-31-2003 | 09:58 AM
#17
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Re: Accord Brakes
I had this happen to an 89 Civic Wagon of mine, and it turned out to be a
semi-seized front caliper. Only the bottom of the caliper was sliding, so
when you pressed the brake pedal, all the fluid was being used to extend the
piston on that caliper, pushing the pad diagonally against the rotor. Ruined
the pad, of course, but a bit of sanding and some lubricant fixed the whole
problem.
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:3FA20458.AE65C3F4@junkmail.com...
> My vote is for the master cylinder. My brother had the same symptoms as
> you describe when his master cylinder failed.
>
> And I wouldn't drive the car until it is fixed!
>
> JM wrote:
> >
> > The brakes in my '91 accord have a problem that couldn't be fixed by
> > bleeding the lines. It's something that happens every so many days, or
> > weeks. At times the break pedal goes all the way to the floor. It
usually
> > happens when traveling at a low rate of speed, 40 mph and under.
Pumping
> > the brakes will usually bring them back to normal, but not always.
Usually
> > it doesn't happen after the car has been parked and restarted. This has
> > been going on for the past 6 months without any regular pattern of how
> > often.
> > I don't see any fluid leaks, and the brake fluid level is fine. A
co-worker
> > of mine recommended that I check the equalizing valve. But by reading
what
> > the equalizing valve is for, I don't think that the problem is caused by
it.
> > Does anybody have an idea of what may be wrong with the brakes? Should I
> > replace the master cylinder? Thanks!
semi-seized front caliper. Only the bottom of the caliper was sliding, so
when you pressed the brake pedal, all the fluid was being used to extend the
piston on that caliper, pushing the pad diagonally against the rotor. Ruined
the pad, of course, but a bit of sanding and some lubricant fixed the whole
problem.
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:3FA20458.AE65C3F4@junkmail.com...
> My vote is for the master cylinder. My brother had the same symptoms as
> you describe when his master cylinder failed.
>
> And I wouldn't drive the car until it is fixed!
>
> JM wrote:
> >
> > The brakes in my '91 accord have a problem that couldn't be fixed by
> > bleeding the lines. It's something that happens every so many days, or
> > weeks. At times the break pedal goes all the way to the floor. It
usually
> > happens when traveling at a low rate of speed, 40 mph and under.
Pumping
> > the brakes will usually bring them back to normal, but not always.
Usually
> > it doesn't happen after the car has been parked and restarted. This has
> > been going on for the past 6 months without any regular pattern of how
> > often.
> > I don't see any fluid leaks, and the brake fluid level is fine. A
co-worker
> > of mine recommended that I check the equalizing valve. But by reading
what
> > the equalizing valve is for, I don't think that the problem is caused by
it.
> > Does anybody have an idea of what may be wrong with the brakes? Should I
> > replace the master cylinder? Thanks!
10-31-2003 | 02:22 PM
#18
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Re: Accord Brakes
I'll go with the master cylinder as well. Same thing happened on my Honda
and that's what they diagnosed it as.
HOWEVER, after the part was ordered and they were stripping things down it
was discovered to be a bad washer/seal. They replaced this part and did not
replace the master cylinder (saved a couple bills - and this was at the
dealer!).
Don't play with the brakes. Get it fixed.
Good luck,
-Dave
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:3FA20458.AE65C3F4@junkmail.com...
> My vote is for the master cylinder. My brother had the same symptoms as
> you describe when his master cylinder failed.
>
> And I wouldn't drive the car until it is fixed!
>
> JM wrote:
> >
> > The brakes in my '91 accord have a problem that couldn't be fixed by
> > bleeding the lines. It's something that happens every so many days, or
> > weeks. At times the break pedal goes all the way to the floor. It
usually
> > happens when traveling at a low rate of speed, 40 mph and under.
Pumping
> > the brakes will usually bring them back to normal, but not always.
Usually
> > it doesn't happen after the car has been parked and restarted. This has
> > been going on for the past 6 months without any regular pattern of how
> > often.
> > I don't see any fluid leaks, and the brake fluid level is fine. A
co-worker
> > of mine recommended that I check the equalizing valve. But by reading
what
> > the equalizing valve is for, I don't think that the problem is caused by
it.
> > Does anybody have an idea of what may be wrong with the brakes? Should I
> > replace the master cylinder? Thanks!
and that's what they diagnosed it as.
HOWEVER, after the part was ordered and they were stripping things down it
was discovered to be a bad washer/seal. They replaced this part and did not
replace the master cylinder (saved a couple bills - and this was at the
dealer!).
Don't play with the brakes. Get it fixed.
Good luck,
-Dave
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:3FA20458.AE65C3F4@junkmail.com...
> My vote is for the master cylinder. My brother had the same symptoms as
> you describe when his master cylinder failed.
>
> And I wouldn't drive the car until it is fixed!
>
> JM wrote:
> >
> > The brakes in my '91 accord have a problem that couldn't be fixed by
> > bleeding the lines. It's something that happens every so many days, or
> > weeks. At times the break pedal goes all the way to the floor. It
usually
> > happens when traveling at a low rate of speed, 40 mph and under.
Pumping
> > the brakes will usually bring them back to normal, but not always.
Usually
> > it doesn't happen after the car has been parked and restarted. This has
> > been going on for the past 6 months without any regular pattern of how
> > often.
> > I don't see any fluid leaks, and the brake fluid level is fine. A
co-worker
> > of mine recommended that I check the equalizing valve. But by reading
what
> > the equalizing valve is for, I don't think that the problem is caused by
it.
> > Does anybody have an idea of what may be wrong with the brakes? Should I
> > replace the master cylinder? Thanks!
10-31-2003 | 02:22 PM
#19
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Re: Accord Brakes
I'll go with the master cylinder as well. Same thing happened on my Honda
and that's what they diagnosed it as.
HOWEVER, after the part was ordered and they were stripping things down it
was discovered to be a bad washer/seal. They replaced this part and did not
replace the master cylinder (saved a couple bills - and this was at the
dealer!).
Don't play with the brakes. Get it fixed.
Good luck,
-Dave
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:3FA20458.AE65C3F4@junkmail.com...
> My vote is for the master cylinder. My brother had the same symptoms as
> you describe when his master cylinder failed.
>
> And I wouldn't drive the car until it is fixed!
>
> JM wrote:
> >
> > The brakes in my '91 accord have a problem that couldn't be fixed by
> > bleeding the lines. It's something that happens every so many days, or
> > weeks. At times the break pedal goes all the way to the floor. It
usually
> > happens when traveling at a low rate of speed, 40 mph and under.
Pumping
> > the brakes will usually bring them back to normal, but not always.
Usually
> > it doesn't happen after the car has been parked and restarted. This has
> > been going on for the past 6 months without any regular pattern of how
> > often.
> > I don't see any fluid leaks, and the brake fluid level is fine. A
co-worker
> > of mine recommended that I check the equalizing valve. But by reading
what
> > the equalizing valve is for, I don't think that the problem is caused by
it.
> > Does anybody have an idea of what may be wrong with the brakes? Should I
> > replace the master cylinder? Thanks!
and that's what they diagnosed it as.
HOWEVER, after the part was ordered and they were stripping things down it
was discovered to be a bad washer/seal. They replaced this part and did not
replace the master cylinder (saved a couple bills - and this was at the
dealer!).
Don't play with the brakes. Get it fixed.
Good luck,
-Dave
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:3FA20458.AE65C3F4@junkmail.com...
> My vote is for the master cylinder. My brother had the same symptoms as
> you describe when his master cylinder failed.
>
> And I wouldn't drive the car until it is fixed!
>
> JM wrote:
> >
> > The brakes in my '91 accord have a problem that couldn't be fixed by
> > bleeding the lines. It's something that happens every so many days, or
> > weeks. At times the break pedal goes all the way to the floor. It
usually
> > happens when traveling at a low rate of speed, 40 mph and under.
Pumping
> > the brakes will usually bring them back to normal, but not always.
Usually
> > it doesn't happen after the car has been parked and restarted. This has
> > been going on for the past 6 months without any regular pattern of how
> > often.
> > I don't see any fluid leaks, and the brake fluid level is fine. A
co-worker
> > of mine recommended that I check the equalizing valve. But by reading
what
> > the equalizing valve is for, I don't think that the problem is caused by
it.
> > Does anybody have an idea of what may be wrong with the brakes? Should I
> > replace the master cylinder? Thanks!
10-31-2003 | 02:22 PM
#20
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Re: Accord Brakes
I'll go with the master cylinder as well. Same thing happened on my Honda
and that's what they diagnosed it as.
HOWEVER, after the part was ordered and they were stripping things down it
was discovered to be a bad washer/seal. They replaced this part and did not
replace the master cylinder (saved a couple bills - and this was at the
dealer!).
Don't play with the brakes. Get it fixed.
Good luck,
-Dave
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:3FA20458.AE65C3F4@junkmail.com...
> My vote is for the master cylinder. My brother had the same symptoms as
> you describe when his master cylinder failed.
>
> And I wouldn't drive the car until it is fixed!
>
> JM wrote:
> >
> > The brakes in my '91 accord have a problem that couldn't be fixed by
> > bleeding the lines. It's something that happens every so many days, or
> > weeks. At times the break pedal goes all the way to the floor. It
usually
> > happens when traveling at a low rate of speed, 40 mph and under.
Pumping
> > the brakes will usually bring them back to normal, but not always.
Usually
> > it doesn't happen after the car has been parked and restarted. This has
> > been going on for the past 6 months without any regular pattern of how
> > often.
> > I don't see any fluid leaks, and the brake fluid level is fine. A
co-worker
> > of mine recommended that I check the equalizing valve. But by reading
what
> > the equalizing valve is for, I don't think that the problem is caused by
it.
> > Does anybody have an idea of what may be wrong with the brakes? Should I
> > replace the master cylinder? Thanks!
and that's what they diagnosed it as.
HOWEVER, after the part was ordered and they were stripping things down it
was discovered to be a bad washer/seal. They replaced this part and did not
replace the master cylinder (saved a couple bills - and this was at the
dealer!).
Don't play with the brakes. Get it fixed.
Good luck,
-Dave
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:3FA20458.AE65C3F4@junkmail.com...
> My vote is for the master cylinder. My brother had the same symptoms as
> you describe when his master cylinder failed.
>
> And I wouldn't drive the car until it is fixed!
>
> JM wrote:
> >
> > The brakes in my '91 accord have a problem that couldn't be fixed by
> > bleeding the lines. It's something that happens every so many days, or
> > weeks. At times the break pedal goes all the way to the floor. It
usually
> > happens when traveling at a low rate of speed, 40 mph and under.
Pumping
> > the brakes will usually bring them back to normal, but not always.
Usually
> > it doesn't happen after the car has been parked and restarted. This has
> > been going on for the past 6 months without any regular pattern of how
> > often.
> > I don't see any fluid leaks, and the brake fluid level is fine. A
co-worker
> > of mine recommended that I check the equalizing valve. But by reading
what
> > the equalizing valve is for, I don't think that the problem is caused by
it.
> > Does anybody have an idea of what may be wrong with the brakes? Should I
> > replace the master cylinder? Thanks!
10-31-2003 | 02:22 PM
#21
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Re: Accord Brakes
I'll go with the master cylinder as well. Same thing happened on my Honda
and that's what they diagnosed it as.
HOWEVER, after the part was ordered and they were stripping things down it
was discovered to be a bad washer/seal. They replaced this part and did not
replace the master cylinder (saved a couple bills - and this was at the
dealer!).
Don't play with the brakes. Get it fixed.
Good luck,
-Dave
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:3FA20458.AE65C3F4@junkmail.com...
> My vote is for the master cylinder. My brother had the same symptoms as
> you describe when his master cylinder failed.
>
> And I wouldn't drive the car until it is fixed!
>
> JM wrote:
> >
> > The brakes in my '91 accord have a problem that couldn't be fixed by
> > bleeding the lines. It's something that happens every so many days, or
> > weeks. At times the break pedal goes all the way to the floor. It
usually
> > happens when traveling at a low rate of speed, 40 mph and under.
Pumping
> > the brakes will usually bring them back to normal, but not always.
Usually
> > it doesn't happen after the car has been parked and restarted. This has
> > been going on for the past 6 months without any regular pattern of how
> > often.
> > I don't see any fluid leaks, and the brake fluid level is fine. A
co-worker
> > of mine recommended that I check the equalizing valve. But by reading
what
> > the equalizing valve is for, I don't think that the problem is caused by
it.
> > Does anybody have an idea of what may be wrong with the brakes? Should I
> > replace the master cylinder? Thanks!
and that's what they diagnosed it as.
HOWEVER, after the part was ordered and they were stripping things down it
was discovered to be a bad washer/seal. They replaced this part and did not
replace the master cylinder (saved a couple bills - and this was at the
dealer!).
Don't play with the brakes. Get it fixed.
Good luck,
-Dave
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:3FA20458.AE65C3F4@junkmail.com...
> My vote is for the master cylinder. My brother had the same symptoms as
> you describe when his master cylinder failed.
>
> And I wouldn't drive the car until it is fixed!
>
> JM wrote:
> >
> > The brakes in my '91 accord have a problem that couldn't be fixed by
> > bleeding the lines. It's something that happens every so many days, or
> > weeks. At times the break pedal goes all the way to the floor. It
usually
> > happens when traveling at a low rate of speed, 40 mph and under.
Pumping
> > the brakes will usually bring them back to normal, but not always.
Usually
> > it doesn't happen after the car has been parked and restarted. This has
> > been going on for the past 6 months without any regular pattern of how
> > often.
> > I don't see any fluid leaks, and the brake fluid level is fine. A
co-worker
> > of mine recommended that I check the equalizing valve. But by reading
what
> > the equalizing valve is for, I don't think that the problem is caused by
it.
> > Does anybody have an idea of what may be wrong with the brakes? Should I
> > replace the master cylinder? Thanks!
10-31-2003 | 11:29 PM
#22
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Re: Accord Brakes
Thank you, Randolph, Larry, Scott, David, and E. Meyer. I'll work on the
master cylinder tomorrow with no fail. You're all a bunch of great people.
Thanks again.
"E. Meyer" <e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
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> On 10/30/03 11:49 PM, in article
xJmob.11148$CZ5.3064@twister.socal.rr.com,
> "JM" <mercogliano@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> > Should I
> > replace the master cylinder? Thanks!
> >
> >
>
> Yes
>
master cylinder tomorrow with no fail. You're all a bunch of great people.
Thanks again.
"E. Meyer" <e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:BBC7BE6B.22D8E%e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org...
> On 10/30/03 11:49 PM, in article
xJmob.11148$CZ5.3064@twister.socal.rr.com,
> "JM" <mercogliano@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> > Should I
> > replace the master cylinder? Thanks!
> >
> >
>
> Yes
>
10-31-2003 | 11:29 PM
#23
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Re: Accord Brakes
Thank you, Randolph, Larry, Scott, David, and E. Meyer. I'll work on the
master cylinder tomorrow with no fail. You're all a bunch of great people.
Thanks again.
"E. Meyer" <e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:BBC7BE6B.22D8E%e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org...
> On 10/30/03 11:49 PM, in article
xJmob.11148$CZ5.3064@twister.socal.rr.com,
> "JM" <mercogliano@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> > Should I
> > replace the master cylinder? Thanks!
> >
> >
>
> Yes
>
master cylinder tomorrow with no fail. You're all a bunch of great people.
Thanks again.
"E. Meyer" <e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:BBC7BE6B.22D8E%e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org...
> On 10/30/03 11:49 PM, in article
xJmob.11148$CZ5.3064@twister.socal.rr.com,
> "JM" <mercogliano@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> > Should I
> > replace the master cylinder? Thanks!
> >
> >
>
> Yes
>
10-31-2003 | 11:29 PM
#24
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Re: Accord Brakes
Thank you, Randolph, Larry, Scott, David, and E. Meyer. I'll work on the
master cylinder tomorrow with no fail. You're all a bunch of great people.
Thanks again.
"E. Meyer" <e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:BBC7BE6B.22D8E%e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org...
> On 10/30/03 11:49 PM, in article
xJmob.11148$CZ5.3064@twister.socal.rr.com,
> "JM" <mercogliano@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> > Should I
> > replace the master cylinder? Thanks!
> >
> >
>
> Yes
>
master cylinder tomorrow with no fail. You're all a bunch of great people.
Thanks again.
"E. Meyer" <e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:BBC7BE6B.22D8E%e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org...
> On 10/30/03 11:49 PM, in article
xJmob.11148$CZ5.3064@twister.socal.rr.com,
> "JM" <mercogliano@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> > Should I
> > replace the master cylinder? Thanks!
> >
> >
>
> Yes
>
10-31-2003 | 11:29 PM
#25
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Re: Accord Brakes
Thank you, Randolph, Larry, Scott, David, and E. Meyer. I'll work on the
master cylinder tomorrow with no fail. You're all a bunch of great people.
Thanks again.
"E. Meyer" <e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:BBC7BE6B.22D8E%e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org...
> On 10/30/03 11:49 PM, in article
xJmob.11148$CZ5.3064@twister.socal.rr.com,
> "JM" <mercogliano@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> > Should I
> > replace the master cylinder? Thanks!
> >
> >
>
> Yes
>
master cylinder tomorrow with no fail. You're all a bunch of great people.
Thanks again.
"E. Meyer" <e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:BBC7BE6B.22D8E%e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org...
> On 10/30/03 11:49 PM, in article
xJmob.11148$CZ5.3064@twister.socal.rr.com,
> "JM" <mercogliano@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> > Should I
> > replace the master cylinder? Thanks!
> >
> >
>
> Yes
>
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