Accord 2005 buy or wait?
02-04-2005 | 05:15 AM
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Re: Accord 2005 buy or wait?
"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
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>> Acura is purely an American thing. See .. it ain't that hard!
>
> More correctly, a North American thing {;^)
>
Sorry ... fair comment ... but only if the Canadian's get the same models!
;o)
a
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>> Acura is purely an American thing. See .. it ain't that hard!
>
> More correctly, a North American thing {;^)
>
Sorry ... fair comment ... but only if the Canadian's get the same models!
;o)
a
02-04-2005 | 05:43 AM
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"al" <{ask_me}@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Sorry ... fair comment ... but only if the Canadian's get the same models!
> ;o)
LOL! The fact is the models weren't the topic, the badge was and we have the
badge. {;^)
Brian
02-04-2005 | 01:29 PM
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 15:56:35 GMT, "Larry J."
<usenet1@DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> wrote:
>Waiving the right to remain silent, "al"
><{ask_me}@blueyonder.co.uk> said:
>
>> "Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:jason-3001052159500001@pm4-broad-35.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
>>> Accura cars are made by Honda. I suggest that you check them
>>> out before you buy the Accord. You might like those cars much
>>> better. The top of the line Accura is really great but it is
>>> very expensive.
>>>
>> Hear about Accura's a lot here but never seen one. Are they for
>> US market only?
>
>I believe so,
Yes.
>they are built in the USA.
...."Huh?"
>And, that's "Acura," with one "c."
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>Waiving the right to remain silent, "al"
><{ask_me}@blueyonder.co.uk> said:
>
>> "Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:jason-3001052159500001@pm4-broad-35.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
>>> Accura cars are made by Honda. I suggest that you check them
>>> out before you buy the Accord. You might like those cars much
>>> better. The top of the line Accura is really great but it is
>>> very expensive.
>>>
>> Hear about Accura's a lot here but never seen one. Are they for
>> US market only?
>
>I believe so,
Yes.
>they are built in the USA.
...."Huh?"
>And, that's "Acura," with one "c."
02-04-2005 | 01:32 PM
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On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 23:48:29 GMT, "al" <{ask_me}@blueyonder.co.uk>
wrote:
>"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>> Acura cars (made by Honda) are sold all over the world. You would probably
>> have to visit the largest city nearest your home in order to find an Acura
>> dealership. I suggest that you buy a copy of a magazine entiled,
>> Car and Driver. It may have an article about an Acura car. I also
>> encourage you to visit a Toyota dealership. They also make excellent cars.
>
>Are you American by any chance!?
....There's every chance he wore a cycling helmet on the school bus.
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>"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>> Acura cars (made by Honda) are sold all over the world. You would probably
>> have to visit the largest city nearest your home in order to find an Acura
>> dealership. I suggest that you buy a copy of a magazine entiled,
>> Car and Driver. It may have an article about an Acura car. I also
>> encourage you to visit a Toyota dealership. They also make excellent cars.
>
>Are you American by any chance!?
....There's every chance he wore a cycling helmet on the school bus.
02-04-2005 | 01:44 PM
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On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 01:05:47 -0800, "tomb" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>Jason wrote:
>| I suggest that you visit the local Honda shop and talk to the service
>| manager. Ask him if he has ever seen an Acura or knows the location
>| of an Acura dealership. It's my guess that if they sell Acura cars
>| in the UK--he has worked on several of them in his shop.
>
>They don't. This whole Acura/Honda (and Lexus/Toyota) business has to do
>with stupid import regulations in the US. The Japanese manufacturers were
>forced to build their cars in the US if they didn't want to pay hefty import
>taxes (protectionism, anyone?). So they split the Honda brand into Acura
>(the high end, typically made in Japan) and Honda (the lower end, usually
>made in the US) to get the mass volume to sell without the extra taxes.
My Integra was built in Japan.
>Pretty much everywhere else the same cars go under the Honda badge.
>
>Toyota and Lexus is the same deal, except that Toyota went with the Lexus
>brand outside of the US as well.
Acura, Lexus and Infiniti were formed by Japanese companies who
determined that US buyers were unwilling/unlikely to purchase upmarket
(and therefore more profitable) cars with names such as Honda, Toyota,
and Datsun (Nissan) which had become indelibly associated with cheap
appliance-level transportation with the successive late 20th century
oil crises.
>Jason wrote:
>| I suggest that you visit the local Honda shop and talk to the service
>| manager. Ask him if he has ever seen an Acura or knows the location
>| of an Acura dealership. It's my guess that if they sell Acura cars
>| in the UK--he has worked on several of them in his shop.
>
>They don't. This whole Acura/Honda (and Lexus/Toyota) business has to do
>with stupid import regulations in the US. The Japanese manufacturers were
>forced to build their cars in the US if they didn't want to pay hefty import
>taxes (protectionism, anyone?). So they split the Honda brand into Acura
>(the high end, typically made in Japan) and Honda (the lower end, usually
>made in the US) to get the mass volume to sell without the extra taxes.
My Integra was built in Japan.
>Pretty much everywhere else the same cars go under the Honda badge.
>
>Toyota and Lexus is the same deal, except that Toyota went with the Lexus
>brand outside of the US as well.
Acura, Lexus and Infiniti were formed by Japanese companies who
determined that US buyers were unwilling/unlikely to purchase upmarket
(and therefore more profitable) cars with names such as Honda, Toyota,
and Datsun (Nissan) which had become indelibly associated with cheap
appliance-level transportation with the successive late 20th century
oil crises.
02-04-2005 | 01:46 PM
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On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 13:40:50 -0800, jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>In article <36e7e3F4utc7mU1@individual.net>, "tomb" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>> Jason wrote:
>> | I suggest that you visit the local Honda shop and talk to the service
>> | manager. Ask him if he has ever seen an Acura or knows the location
>> | of an Acura dealership. It's my guess that if they sell Acura cars
>> | in the UK--he has worked on several of them in his shop.
>>
>> They don't. This whole Acura/Honda (and Lexus/Toyota) business has to do
>> with stupid import regulations in the US. The Japanese manufacturers were
>> forced to build their cars in the US if they didn't want to pay hefty import
>> taxes (protectionism, anyone?). So they split the Honda brand into Acura
>> (the high end, typically made in Japan) and Honda (the lower end, usually
>> made in the US) to get the mass volume to sell without the extra taxes.
>>
>> Pretty much everywhere else the same cars go under the Honda badge.
>>
>> Toyota and Lexus is the same deal, except that Toyota went with the Lexus
>> brand outside of the US as well.
>
>Thanks for the information. I did NOT know that there were no Honda or
>Acura dealerships in the United Kingdom.
....Why then, did you declare otherwise, without reservation or
qualification?
>In article <36e7e3F4utc7mU1@individual.net>, "tomb" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>> Jason wrote:
>> | I suggest that you visit the local Honda shop and talk to the service
>> | manager. Ask him if he has ever seen an Acura or knows the location
>> | of an Acura dealership. It's my guess that if they sell Acura cars
>> | in the UK--he has worked on several of them in his shop.
>>
>> They don't. This whole Acura/Honda (and Lexus/Toyota) business has to do
>> with stupid import regulations in the US. The Japanese manufacturers were
>> forced to build their cars in the US if they didn't want to pay hefty import
>> taxes (protectionism, anyone?). So they split the Honda brand into Acura
>> (the high end, typically made in Japan) and Honda (the lower end, usually
>> made in the US) to get the mass volume to sell without the extra taxes.
>>
>> Pretty much everywhere else the same cars go under the Honda badge.
>>
>> Toyota and Lexus is the same deal, except that Toyota went with the Lexus
>> brand outside of the US as well.
>
>Thanks for the information. I did NOT know that there were no Honda or
>Acura dealerships in the United Kingdom.
....Why then, did you declare otherwise, without reservation or
qualification?
02-04-2005 | 03:20 PM
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In article <nlg701haet6r0ln6495qhbreht7jmhk3gf@4ax.com>,
home.office@kremlin.co.ru wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 13:40:50 -0800, jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >In article <36e7e3F4utc7mU1@individual.net>, "tomb" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> >> Jason wrote:
> >> | I suggest that you visit the local Honda shop and talk to the service
> >> | manager. Ask him if he has ever seen an Acura or knows the location
> >> | of an Acura dealership. It's my guess that if they sell Acura cars
> >> | in the UK--he has worked on several of them in his shop.
> >>
> >> They don't. This whole Acura/Honda (and Lexus/Toyota) business has to do
> >> with stupid import regulations in the US. The Japanese manufacturers were
> >> forced to build their cars in the US if they didn't want to pay hefty
import
> >> taxes (protectionism, anyone?). So they split the Honda brand into Acura
> >> (the high end, typically made in Japan) and Honda (the lower end, usually
> >> made in the US) to get the mass volume to sell without the extra taxes.
> >>
> >> Pretty much everywhere else the same cars go under the Honda badge.
> >>
> >> Toyota and Lexus is the same deal, except that Toyota went with the Lexus
> >> brand outside of the US as well.
> >
> >Thanks for the information. I did NOT know that there were no Honda or
> >Acura dealerships in the United Kingdom.
>
> ...Why then, did you declare otherwise, without reservation or
> qualification?
I will answer your question. There are millions of people in the United
Kingdom. I believe that most intelligent people would believe that the CEO
of the Honda Company would make a decision to market Honda vehicles to
those people--imagine the money that could be made. If I was the CEO of
the Honda Company--I would market my cars in the United Kingdom. There
must be a really good reason for the CEO of the Honda Company to NOT
market Honda vehicles in the United Kingdom--what's the reason??
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home.office@kremlin.co.ru wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 13:40:50 -0800, jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >In article <36e7e3F4utc7mU1@individual.net>, "tomb" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> >> Jason wrote:
> >> | I suggest that you visit the local Honda shop and talk to the service
> >> | manager. Ask him if he has ever seen an Acura or knows the location
> >> | of an Acura dealership. It's my guess that if they sell Acura cars
> >> | in the UK--he has worked on several of them in his shop.
> >>
> >> They don't. This whole Acura/Honda (and Lexus/Toyota) business has to do
> >> with stupid import regulations in the US. The Japanese manufacturers were
> >> forced to build their cars in the US if they didn't want to pay hefty
import
> >> taxes (protectionism, anyone?). So they split the Honda brand into Acura
> >> (the high end, typically made in Japan) and Honda (the lower end, usually
> >> made in the US) to get the mass volume to sell without the extra taxes.
> >>
> >> Pretty much everywhere else the same cars go under the Honda badge.
> >>
> >> Toyota and Lexus is the same deal, except that Toyota went with the Lexus
> >> brand outside of the US as well.
> >
> >Thanks for the information. I did NOT know that there were no Honda or
> >Acura dealerships in the United Kingdom.
>
> ...Why then, did you declare otherwise, without reservation or
> qualification?
I will answer your question. There are millions of people in the United
Kingdom. I believe that most intelligent people would believe that the CEO
of the Honda Company would make a decision to market Honda vehicles to
those people--imagine the money that could be made. If I was the CEO of
the Honda Company--I would market my cars in the United Kingdom. There
must be a really good reason for the CEO of the Honda Company to NOT
market Honda vehicles in the United Kingdom--what's the reason??
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02-04-2005 | 03:39 PM
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Re: Accord 2005 buy or wait?
"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> I will answer your question. There are millions of people in the United
> Kingdom. I believe that most intelligent people would believe that the CEO
> of the Honda Company would make a decision to market Honda vehicles to
> those people--imagine the money that could be made. If I was the CEO of
> the Honda Company--I would market my cars in the United Kingdom. There
> must be a really good reason for the CEO of the Honda Company to NOT
> market Honda vehicles in the United Kingdom--what's the reason??
No offence intended, but you'd probably get a better and more realistic
answer to your question from the CEO of Honda, rather than asking people in
a newsgroup. {;^)
Brian
02-04-2005 | 05:29 PM
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On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 12:20:58 -0800, jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>In article <nlg701haet6r0ln6495qhbreht7jmhk3gf@4ax.com>,
>home.office@kremlin.co.ru wrote:
>> On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 13:40:50 -0800, jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> >In article <36e7e3F4utc7mU1@individual.net>, "tomb" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>> >> Jason wrote:
>> >> | I suggest that you visit the local Honda shop and talk to the service
>> >> | manager. Ask him if he has ever seen an Acura or knows the location
>> >> | of an Acura dealership. It's my guess that if they sell Acura cars
>> >> | in the UK--he has worked on several of them in his shop.
>> >>
>> >> They don't. This whole Acura/Honda (and Lexus/Toyota) business has to do
>> >> with stupid import regulations in the US. The Japanese manufacturers were
>> >> forced to build their cars in the US if they didn't want to pay hefty import
>> >> taxes (protectionism, anyone?). So they split the Honda brand into Acura
>> >> (the high end, typically made in Japan) and Honda (the lower end, usually
>> >> made in the US) to get the mass volume to sell without the extra taxes.
>> >>
>> >> Pretty much everywhere else the same cars go under the Honda badge.
>> >>
>> >> Toyota and Lexus is the same deal, except that Toyota went with the Lexus
>> >> brand outside of the US as well.
>> >
>> >Thanks for the information. I did NOT know that there were no Honda or
>> >Acura dealerships in the United Kingdom.
He didn't say anything of the sort.
>> ...Why then, did you declare otherwise, without reservation or
>> qualification?
>
>I will answer your question. There are millions of people in the United
>Kingdom. I believe that most intelligent people would believe that the CEO
>of the Honda Company would make a decision to market Honda vehicles to
>those people--imagine the money that could be made. If I was the CEO of
>the Honda Company--I would market my cars in the United Kingdom. There
>must be a really good reason for the CEO of the Honda Company to NOT
>market Honda vehicles in the United Kingdom--what's the reason??
....FFS.
Honda do market their products in the UK, they do not market them as
Acura, which still leaves my question:
Having demonstrated, on occasions innumerable, that you know dick
about squat - Why do you consistently declare otherwise, without
either reservation or qualifications?
>In article <nlg701haet6r0ln6495qhbreht7jmhk3gf@4ax.com>,
>home.office@kremlin.co.ru wrote:
>> On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 13:40:50 -0800, jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> >In article <36e7e3F4utc7mU1@individual.net>, "tomb" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>> >> Jason wrote:
>> >> | I suggest that you visit the local Honda shop and talk to the service
>> >> | manager. Ask him if he has ever seen an Acura or knows the location
>> >> | of an Acura dealership. It's my guess that if they sell Acura cars
>> >> | in the UK--he has worked on several of them in his shop.
>> >>
>> >> They don't. This whole Acura/Honda (and Lexus/Toyota) business has to do
>> >> with stupid import regulations in the US. The Japanese manufacturers were
>> >> forced to build their cars in the US if they didn't want to pay hefty import
>> >> taxes (protectionism, anyone?). So they split the Honda brand into Acura
>> >> (the high end, typically made in Japan) and Honda (the lower end, usually
>> >> made in the US) to get the mass volume to sell without the extra taxes.
>> >>
>> >> Pretty much everywhere else the same cars go under the Honda badge.
>> >>
>> >> Toyota and Lexus is the same deal, except that Toyota went with the Lexus
>> >> brand outside of the US as well.
>> >
>> >Thanks for the information. I did NOT know that there were no Honda or
>> >Acura dealerships in the United Kingdom.
He didn't say anything of the sort.
>> ...Why then, did you declare otherwise, without reservation or
>> qualification?
>
>I will answer your question. There are millions of people in the United
>Kingdom. I believe that most intelligent people would believe that the CEO
>of the Honda Company would make a decision to market Honda vehicles to
>those people--imagine the money that could be made. If I was the CEO of
>the Honda Company--I would market my cars in the United Kingdom. There
>must be a really good reason for the CEO of the Honda Company to NOT
>market Honda vehicles in the United Kingdom--what's the reason??
....FFS.
Honda do market their products in the UK, they do not market them as
Acura, which still leaves my question:
Having demonstrated, on occasions innumerable, that you know dick
about squat - Why do you consistently declare otherwise, without
either reservation or qualifications?
02-04-2005 | 07:30 PM
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"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> I will answer your question. There are millions of people in the United
> Kingdom. I believe that most intelligent people would believe that the CEO
> of the Honda Company would make a decision to market Honda vehicles to
> those people--imagine the money that could be made. If I was the CEO of
> the Honda Company--I would market my cars in the United Kingdom. There
> must be a really good reason for the CEO of the Honda Company to NOT
> market Honda vehicles in the United Kingdom--what's the reason??
>
>
I'm sorry, I really don't like to get insulting in NG's, as it generally
just leads to silly flame wars, but are you retarded in some manner or do
you just not listen!? Please stop giving your fellow countrymen a bad
name - there's enough people in the world that wonder what the hell goes
through the average American's mind since your last election!! ;p
Honda do sell in the UK - a great deal. As they do in probably pretty much
every single free economy in the world (and probably a few not so free!).
The particular brand, "Acura", .... the source of my original query ....,
appears to have been confirmed to only be sold in the USA and Canada. It
does not exist anywhere else. However the same model cars do, just under
their "normal" Honda brands.
And yes, there are about 60-70 million people in the UK AFAIK, which I think
is somewhere around a third to a quarter of the US population. So given the
size of the land mass, I'd say it would be a pretty important market for
Honda!
a
news:jason-0402051220580001@pm2-broad-183.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> I will answer your question. There are millions of people in the United
> Kingdom. I believe that most intelligent people would believe that the CEO
> of the Honda Company would make a decision to market Honda vehicles to
> those people--imagine the money that could be made. If I was the CEO of
> the Honda Company--I would market my cars in the United Kingdom. There
> must be a really good reason for the CEO of the Honda Company to NOT
> market Honda vehicles in the United Kingdom--what's the reason??
>
>
I'm sorry, I really don't like to get insulting in NG's, as it generally
just leads to silly flame wars, but are you retarded in some manner or do
you just not listen!? Please stop giving your fellow countrymen a bad
name - there's enough people in the world that wonder what the hell goes
through the average American's mind since your last election!! ;p
Honda do sell in the UK - a great deal. As they do in probably pretty much
every single free economy in the world (and probably a few not so free!).
The particular brand, "Acura", .... the source of my original query ....,
appears to have been confirmed to only be sold in the USA and Canada. It
does not exist anywhere else. However the same model cars do, just under
their "normal" Honda brands.
And yes, there are about 60-70 million people in the UK AFAIK, which I think
is somewhere around a third to a quarter of the US population. So given the
size of the land mass, I'd say it would be a pretty important market for
Honda!
a
02-10-2005 | 04:13 PM
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Re: Accord 2005 buy or wait?
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:16:52 GMT, "al" <{ask_me}@blueyonder.co.uk>
wrote:
>"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:jason-3001052159500001@pm4-broad-35.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
>> Accura cars are made by Honda. I suggest that you check them out before
>> you buy the Accord. You might like those cars much better. The top of the
>> line Accura is really great but it is very expensive.
>>
>
>Hear about Accura's a lot here but never seen one. Are they for US market
>only?
>
>
>
>a
>
Sweet.
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>"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:jason-3001052159500001@pm4-broad-35.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
>> Accura cars are made by Honda. I suggest that you check them out before
>> you buy the Accord. You might like those cars much better. The top of the
>> line Accura is really great but it is very expensive.
>>
>
>Hear about Accura's a lot here but never seen one. Are they for US market
>only?
>
>
>
>a
>
Sweet.
02-10-2005 | 04:13 PM
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:16:52 GMT, "al" <{ask_me}@blueyonder.co.uk>
wrote:
>"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:jason-3001052159500001@pm4-broad-35.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
>> Accura cars are made by Honda. I suggest that you check them out before
>> you buy the Accord. You might like those cars much better. The top of the
>> line Accura is really great but it is very expensive.
>>
>
>Hear about Accura's a lot here but never seen one. Are they for US market
>only?
>
>
>
>a
>
Sweet.
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>"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:jason-3001052159500001@pm4-broad-35.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
>> Accura cars are made by Honda. I suggest that you check them out before
>> you buy the Accord. You might like those cars much better. The top of the
>> line Accura is really great but it is very expensive.
>>
>
>Hear about Accura's a lot here but never seen one. Are they for US market
>only?
>
>
>
>a
>
Sweet.
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