On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 10:43:32 -0600, "Benjamin White"
<bjwhite66212@hotmail.nojunkmail.com> wrote:
>I have two minor design criticisms.
>
>The backlit dash looks cool, but I always have to adjust it. Sometimes
>during the day I need the headlights on, then the dash goes dark and have to
>turn up the brightness. At night I have to turn it down again.

I think the whole thing is silly, and prefer classic mechanical
front-lit gauges.

I also find the radio console hard to read in many day and night
situations, but it is fun to load six CDs in, I never had that feature
before! Also, the sound has odd effects, small percussion instruments
sound very loudly out of the speakers, I keep thinking I'm having a
mechanical problem with the car! Overall I think the sound is quite
good, though, far better than in my 1999 CL.

>Does anyone like the dash and key hole design?

I'm another warm-weather guy, haven't had the key problem, though I
often do still use the mechanical key, don't ask me why.

--

Here's another issue, a positive I guess, which is the ABS brakes. I
had ABS on my CL, and it fired maybe three times in four years, none
in emergencies, just in hard braking, turning situations. On my new
Accord, I've had it six weeks, and the ABS seems to find a reason to
fire once or twice a week. I expect to hear tire squeal and I don't,
I get ABS noise -- and nice stoppage! I just think the algorithm has
been tuned to fire more easily, and it's a good thing, but it is a
change for me (I guess the CL had a bit more tire width and the V6,
maybe that's enough for the difference, my Accord is the 4-banger).

J.

 

On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 10:43:32 -0600, "Benjamin White"
<bjwhite66212@hotmail.nojunkmail.com> wrote:
>I have two minor design criticisms.
>
>The backlit dash looks cool, but I always have to adjust it. Sometimes
>during the day I need the headlights on, then the dash goes dark and have to
>turn up the brightness. At night I have to turn it down again.

I think the whole thing is silly, and prefer classic mechanical
front-lit gauges.

I also find the radio console hard to read in many day and night
situations, but it is fun to load six CDs in, I never had that feature
before! Also, the sound has odd effects, small percussion instruments
sound very loudly out of the speakers, I keep thinking I'm having a
mechanical problem with the car! Overall I think the sound is quite
good, though, far better than in my 1999 CL.

>Does anyone like the dash and key hole design?

I'm another warm-weather guy, haven't had the key problem, though I
often do still use the mechanical key, don't ask me why.

--

Here's another issue, a positive I guess, which is the ABS brakes. I
had ABS on my CL, and it fired maybe three times in four years, none
in emergencies, just in hard braking, turning situations. On my new
Accord, I've had it six weeks, and the ABS seems to find a reason to
fire once or twice a week. I expect to hear tire squeal and I don't,
I get ABS noise -- and nice stoppage! I just think the algorithm has
been tuned to fire more easily, and it's a good thing, but it is a
change for me (I guess the CL had a bit more tire width and the V6,
maybe that's enough for the difference, my Accord is the 4-banger).

J.

 

On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 10:43:32 -0600, "Benjamin White"
<bjwhite66212@hotmail.nojunkmail.com> wrote:
>I have two minor design criticisms.
>
>The backlit dash looks cool, but I always have to adjust it. Sometimes
>during the day I need the headlights on, then the dash goes dark and have to
>turn up the brightness. At night I have to turn it down again.

I think the whole thing is silly, and prefer classic mechanical
front-lit gauges.

I also find the radio console hard to read in many day and night
situations, but it is fun to load six CDs in, I never had that feature
before! Also, the sound has odd effects, small percussion instruments
sound very loudly out of the speakers, I keep thinking I'm having a
mechanical problem with the car! Overall I think the sound is quite
good, though, far better than in my 1999 CL.

>Does anyone like the dash and key hole design?

I'm another warm-weather guy, haven't had the key problem, though I
often do still use the mechanical key, don't ask me why.

--

Here's another issue, a positive I guess, which is the ABS brakes. I
had ABS on my CL, and it fired maybe three times in four years, none
in emergencies, just in hard braking, turning situations. On my new
Accord, I've had it six weeks, and the ABS seems to find a reason to
fire once or twice a week. I expect to hear tire squeal and I don't,
I get ABS noise -- and nice stoppage! I just think the algorithm has
been tuned to fire more easily, and it's a good thing, but it is a
change for me (I guess the CL had a bit more tire width and the V6,
maybe that's enough for the difference, my Accord is the 4-banger).

J.

 

> It also doesn't blow very strong towards your feet when you have it
> set to defrost/feet. It would be better it there where rotating ****'s
> or sliders as opposed to buttons.
>

This is one of my complaints, and I'm glad to see that it is not my car
alone. Even if you set it to feet only, there is not much heated air flow
to the floor area of the compartment. I also agree with the dash lighting
comments - I normally leave my headlights on in the daytime and it is
inconvenient to have to turn the dash lighting up and down between daylight
and dark. But those are both relatively minor complaints. Overall I am very
happy with my 2003 Accord EX.

Carl.

 

> It also doesn't blow very strong towards your feet when you have it
> set to defrost/feet. It would be better it there where rotating ****'s
> or sliders as opposed to buttons.
>

This is one of my complaints, and I'm glad to see that it is not my car
alone. Even if you set it to feet only, there is not much heated air flow
to the floor area of the compartment. I also agree with the dash lighting
comments - I normally leave my headlights on in the daytime and it is
inconvenient to have to turn the dash lighting up and down between daylight
and dark. But those are both relatively minor complaints. Overall I am very
happy with my 2003 Accord EX.

Carl.

 

> It also doesn't blow very strong towards your feet when you have it
> set to defrost/feet. It would be better it there where rotating ****'s
> or sliders as opposed to buttons.
>

This is one of my complaints, and I'm glad to see that it is not my car
alone. Even if you set it to feet only, there is not much heated air flow
to the floor area of the compartment. I also agree with the dash lighting
comments - I normally leave my headlights on in the daytime and it is
inconvenient to have to turn the dash lighting up and down between daylight
and dark. But those are both relatively minor complaints. Overall I am very
happy with my 2003 Accord EX.

Carl.

 

> It also doesn't blow very strong towards your feet when you have it
> set to defrost/feet. It would be better it there where rotating ****'s
> or sliders as opposed to buttons.
>

This is one of my complaints, and I'm glad to see that it is not my car
alone. Even if you set it to feet only, there is not much heated air flow
to the floor area of the compartment. I also agree with the dash lighting
comments - I normally leave my headlights on in the daytime and it is
inconvenient to have to turn the dash lighting up and down between daylight
and dark. But those are both relatively minor complaints. Overall I am very
happy with my 2003 Accord EX.

Carl.

 

"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
news:bovd20dndo0ifbbe932sdo1o3svi7d5ckm@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 10:43:32 -0600, "Benjamin White"
> <bjwhite66212@hotmail.nojunkmail.com> wrote:
> >I have two minor design criticisms.
> >
> >The backlit dash looks cool, but I always have to adjust it. Sometimes
> >during the day I need the headlights on, then the dash goes dark and have
to
> >turn up the brightness. At night I have to turn it down again.
>
> I think the whole thing is silly, and prefer classic mechanical
> front-lit gauges.
>
> I also find the radio console hard to read in many day and night
> situations, but it is fun to load six CDs in, I never had that feature
> before! Also, the sound has odd effects, small percussion instruments
> sound very loudly out of the speakers, I keep thinking I'm having a
> mechanical problem with the car! Overall I think the sound is quite
> good, though, far better than in my 1999 CL.
>
> >Does anyone like the dash and key hole design?
>
> I'm another warm-weather guy, haven't had the key problem, though I
> often do still use the mechanical key, don't ask me why.
>
> --
>
> Here's another issue, a positive I guess, which is the ABS brakes. I
> had ABS on my CL, and it fired maybe three times in four years, none
> in emergencies, just in hard braking, turning situations. On my new
> Accord, I've had it six weeks, and the ABS seems to find a reason to
> fire once or twice a week. I expect to hear tire squeal and I don't,
> I get ABS noise -- and nice stoppage! I just think the algorithm has
> been tuned to fire more easily, and it's a good thing, but it is a
> change for me (I guess the CL had a bit more tire width and the V6,
> maybe that's enough for the difference, my Accord is the 4-banger).
>
> J.
>
My problem w/ the backlit dash in the daytime is I think the headlights are
on at night because the dash is lit and in my other car, the lights come on
automatically at dusk (Best thing they ever did). Here in NJ we must keep
our headlights on in the rain so I too can't see (I read the manual cover to
cover and must have forgot I could adjust - thanks!). If the car had DRL's I
wouldn't have to turn them on in the rain (My other car has DRL's too).

I agree about where the truck release is. I also think it odd that you can
open the trunk while driving. All my other cars would lock it out unless in
park.

Try wearing polarized sunglasses and seeing the radio console. It's
impossible to see any part of it. At least w/ my glasses it is. And the sun
glare w/ them off makes it hard to read too.

BUT, we love the car. One of the best cars we've ever owned. Hasn't been
back in the shop yet (7K miles). Our old Chevy was in many times by now. My
old GMC too.

My other minor complaint is you can't listen to the radio w/ the key off
like most new cars allow and if you unlock the doors, they lock in 30
seconds and you can't lock the doors w/ the fab if any door is open (IE -
kids getting out - I have to wait til everyone is out and doors closed.
Other cars can lock in advance).

Not complaining - just not used to this way yet.

I have never used the key so can't comment on the freezing lock. I have not
had a problem w/ the floor heat. We just use auto all the time so not sure
where it's set.

Jim / NJ

 

"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
news:bovd20dndo0ifbbe932sdo1o3svi7d5ckm@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 10:43:32 -0600, "Benjamin White"
> <bjwhite66212@hotmail.nojunkmail.com> wrote:
> >I have two minor design criticisms.
> >
> >The backlit dash looks cool, but I always have to adjust it. Sometimes
> >during the day I need the headlights on, then the dash goes dark and have
to
> >turn up the brightness. At night I have to turn it down again.
>
> I think the whole thing is silly, and prefer classic mechanical
> front-lit gauges.
>
> I also find the radio console hard to read in many day and night
> situations, but it is fun to load six CDs in, I never had that feature
> before! Also, the sound has odd effects, small percussion instruments
> sound very loudly out of the speakers, I keep thinking I'm having a
> mechanical problem with the car! Overall I think the sound is quite
> good, though, far better than in my 1999 CL.
>
> >Does anyone like the dash and key hole design?
>
> I'm another warm-weather guy, haven't had the key problem, though I
> often do still use the mechanical key, don't ask me why.
>
> --
>
> Here's another issue, a positive I guess, which is the ABS brakes. I
> had ABS on my CL, and it fired maybe three times in four years, none
> in emergencies, just in hard braking, turning situations. On my new
> Accord, I've had it six weeks, and the ABS seems to find a reason to
> fire once or twice a week. I expect to hear tire squeal and I don't,
> I get ABS noise -- and nice stoppage! I just think the algorithm has
> been tuned to fire more easily, and it's a good thing, but it is a
> change for me (I guess the CL had a bit more tire width and the V6,
> maybe that's enough for the difference, my Accord is the 4-banger).
>
> J.
>
My problem w/ the backlit dash in the daytime is I think the headlights are
on at night because the dash is lit and in my other car, the lights come on
automatically at dusk (Best thing they ever did). Here in NJ we must keep
our headlights on in the rain so I too can't see (I read the manual cover to
cover and must have forgot I could adjust - thanks!). If the car had DRL's I
wouldn't have to turn them on in the rain (My other car has DRL's too).

I agree about where the truck release is. I also think it odd that you can
open the trunk while driving. All my other cars would lock it out unless in
park.

Try wearing polarized sunglasses and seeing the radio console. It's
impossible to see any part of it. At least w/ my glasses it is. And the sun
glare w/ them off makes it hard to read too.

BUT, we love the car. One of the best cars we've ever owned. Hasn't been
back in the shop yet (7K miles). Our old Chevy was in many times by now. My
old GMC too.

My other minor complaint is you can't listen to the radio w/ the key off
like most new cars allow and if you unlock the doors, they lock in 30
seconds and you can't lock the doors w/ the fab if any door is open (IE -
kids getting out - I have to wait til everyone is out and doors closed.
Other cars can lock in advance).

Not complaining - just not used to this way yet.

I have never used the key so can't comment on the freezing lock. I have not
had a problem w/ the floor heat. We just use auto all the time so not sure
where it's set.

Jim / NJ

 

"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
news:bovd20dndo0ifbbe932sdo1o3svi7d5ckm@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 10:43:32 -0600, "Benjamin White"
> <bjwhite66212@hotmail.nojunkmail.com> wrote:
> >I have two minor design criticisms.
> >
> >The backlit dash looks cool, but I always have to adjust it. Sometimes
> >during the day I need the headlights on, then the dash goes dark and have
to
> >turn up the brightness. At night I have to turn it down again.
>
> I think the whole thing is silly, and prefer classic mechanical
> front-lit gauges.
>
> I also find the radio console hard to read in many day and night
> situations, but it is fun to load six CDs in, I never had that feature
> before! Also, the sound has odd effects, small percussion instruments
> sound very loudly out of the speakers, I keep thinking I'm having a
> mechanical problem with the car! Overall I think the sound is quite
> good, though, far better than in my 1999 CL.
>
> >Does anyone like the dash and key hole design?
>
> I'm another warm-weather guy, haven't had the key problem, though I
> often do still use the mechanical key, don't ask me why.
>
> --
>
> Here's another issue, a positive I guess, which is the ABS brakes. I
> had ABS on my CL, and it fired maybe three times in four years, none
> in emergencies, just in hard braking, turning situations. On my new
> Accord, I've had it six weeks, and the ABS seems to find a reason to
> fire once or twice a week. I expect to hear tire squeal and I don't,
> I get ABS noise -- and nice stoppage! I just think the algorithm has
> been tuned to fire more easily, and it's a good thing, but it is a
> change for me (I guess the CL had a bit more tire width and the V6,
> maybe that's enough for the difference, my Accord is the 4-banger).
>
> J.
>
My problem w/ the backlit dash in the daytime is I think the headlights are
on at night because the dash is lit and in my other car, the lights come on
automatically at dusk (Best thing they ever did). Here in NJ we must keep
our headlights on in the rain so I too can't see (I read the manual cover to
cover and must have forgot I could adjust - thanks!). If the car had DRL's I
wouldn't have to turn them on in the rain (My other car has DRL's too).

I agree about where the truck release is. I also think it odd that you can
open the trunk while driving. All my other cars would lock it out unless in
park.

Try wearing polarized sunglasses and seeing the radio console. It's
impossible to see any part of it. At least w/ my glasses it is. And the sun
glare w/ them off makes it hard to read too.

BUT, we love the car. One of the best cars we've ever owned. Hasn't been
back in the shop yet (7K miles). Our old Chevy was in many times by now. My
old GMC too.

My other minor complaint is you can't listen to the radio w/ the key off
like most new cars allow and if you unlock the doors, they lock in 30
seconds and you can't lock the doors w/ the fab if any door is open (IE -
kids getting out - I have to wait til everyone is out and doors closed.
Other cars can lock in advance).

Not complaining - just not used to this way yet.

I have never used the key so can't comment on the freezing lock. I have not
had a problem w/ the floor heat. We just use auto all the time so not sure
where it's set.

Jim / NJ

 

"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
news:bovd20dndo0ifbbe932sdo1o3svi7d5ckm@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 10:43:32 -0600, "Benjamin White"
> <bjwhite66212@hotmail.nojunkmail.com> wrote:
> >I have two minor design criticisms.
> >
> >The backlit dash looks cool, but I always have to adjust it. Sometimes
> >during the day I need the headlights on, then the dash goes dark and have
to
> >turn up the brightness. At night I have to turn it down again.
>
> I think the whole thing is silly, and prefer classic mechanical
> front-lit gauges.
>
> I also find the radio console hard to read in many day and night
> situations, but it is fun to load six CDs in, I never had that feature
> before! Also, the sound has odd effects, small percussion instruments
> sound very loudly out of the speakers, I keep thinking I'm having a
> mechanical problem with the car! Overall I think the sound is quite
> good, though, far better than in my 1999 CL.
>
> >Does anyone like the dash and key hole design?
>
> I'm another warm-weather guy, haven't had the key problem, though I
> often do still use the mechanical key, don't ask me why.
>
> --
>
> Here's another issue, a positive I guess, which is the ABS brakes. I
> had ABS on my CL, and it fired maybe three times in four years, none
> in emergencies, just in hard braking, turning situations. On my new
> Accord, I've had it six weeks, and the ABS seems to find a reason to
> fire once or twice a week. I expect to hear tire squeal and I don't,
> I get ABS noise -- and nice stoppage! I just think the algorithm has
> been tuned to fire more easily, and it's a good thing, but it is a
> change for me (I guess the CL had a bit more tire width and the V6,
> maybe that's enough for the difference, my Accord is the 4-banger).
>
> J.
>
My problem w/ the backlit dash in the daytime is I think the headlights are
on at night because the dash is lit and in my other car, the lights come on
automatically at dusk (Best thing they ever did). Here in NJ we must keep
our headlights on in the rain so I too can't see (I read the manual cover to
cover and must have forgot I could adjust - thanks!). If the car had DRL's I
wouldn't have to turn them on in the rain (My other car has DRL's too).

I agree about where the truck release is. I also think it odd that you can
open the trunk while driving. All my other cars would lock it out unless in
park.

Try wearing polarized sunglasses and seeing the radio console. It's
impossible to see any part of it. At least w/ my glasses it is. And the sun
glare w/ them off makes it hard to read too.

BUT, we love the car. One of the best cars we've ever owned. Hasn't been
back in the shop yet (7K miles). Our old Chevy was in many times by now. My
old GMC too.

My other minor complaint is you can't listen to the radio w/ the key off
like most new cars allow and if you unlock the doors, they lock in 30
seconds and you can't lock the doors w/ the fab if any door is open (IE -
kids getting out - I have to wait til everyone is out and doors closed.
Other cars can lock in advance).

Not complaining - just not used to this way yet.

I have never used the key so can't comment on the freezing lock. I have not
had a problem w/ the floor heat. We just use auto all the time so not sure
where it's set.

Jim / NJ

 

On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 23:53:14 GMT, "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net>
wrote:

>> I have a dumb question. I have not figured out how to change the
>> intensity of the lighting on the console. Would anybody care to give
>> me a hint?
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Bill M
>
>
>There is a little **** in the lower right hand corner of the clear portion
>of the dash (the one used for the trip odometer).
>
>
Unless this is different from my 03 to the 04, the **** for adjusting
the brightness is indeed in the lower right hand corner, but it is NOT
the same **** that controls the trip odometer.

 

On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 23:53:14 GMT, "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net>
wrote:

>> I have a dumb question. I have not figured out how to change the
>> intensity of the lighting on the console. Would anybody care to give
>> me a hint?
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Bill M
>
>
>There is a little **** in the lower right hand corner of the clear portion
>of the dash (the one used for the trip odometer).
>
>
Unless this is different from my 03 to the 04, the **** for adjusting
the brightness is indeed in the lower right hand corner, but it is NOT
the same **** that controls the trip odometer.

 

On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 23:53:14 GMT, "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net>
wrote:

>> I have a dumb question. I have not figured out how to change the
>> intensity of the lighting on the console. Would anybody care to give
>> me a hint?
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Bill M
>
>
>There is a little **** in the lower right hand corner of the clear portion
>of the dash (the one used for the trip odometer).
>
>
Unless this is different from my 03 to the 04, the **** for adjusting
the brightness is indeed in the lower right hand corner, but it is NOT
the same **** that controls the trip odometer.

 

On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 23:53:14 GMT, "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net>
wrote:

>> I have a dumb question. I have not figured out how to change the
>> intensity of the lighting on the console. Would anybody care to give
>> me a hint?
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Bill M
>
>
>There is a little **** in the lower right hand corner of the clear portion
>of the dash (the one used for the trip odometer).
>
>
Unless this is different from my 03 to the 04, the **** for adjusting
the brightness is indeed in the lower right hand corner, but it is NOT
the same **** that controls the trip odometer.