98 Civic Coupe High Mounted Brake Light Replacement
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98 Civic Coupe High Mounted Brake Light Replacement
How do you remove the light holder from the rear shelf on a '98 Civic
Coupe?
I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge. Is
there some other way
to remove it so I can replace the light bulb? TIA.
Coupe?
I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge. Is
there some other way
to remove it so I can replace the light bulb? TIA.
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Re: 98 Civic Coupe High Mounted Brake Light Replacement
"NWF_Snake" <negast@knology.net> wrote in message
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> How do you remove the light holder from the rear shelf on a '98 Civic
> Coupe?
> I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge.
Have you looked for retaining bolts or fixtures in the underside of the
shelf, from inside the trunk?
SD
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> How do you remove the light holder from the rear shelf on a '98 Civic
> Coupe?
> I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge.
Have you looked for retaining bolts or fixtures in the underside of the
shelf, from inside the trunk?
SD
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Re: 98 Civic Coupe High Mounted Brake Light Replacement
"NWF_Snake" <negast@knology.net> wrote in message
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> How do you remove the light holder from the rear shelf on a '98 Civic
> Coupe?
> I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge.
Have you looked for retaining bolts or fixtures in the underside of the
shelf, from inside the trunk?
SD
news:1165851209.878040.212960@f1g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> How do you remove the light holder from the rear shelf on a '98 Civic
> Coupe?
> I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge.
Have you looked for retaining bolts or fixtures in the underside of the
shelf, from inside the trunk?
SD
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Re: 98 Civic Coupe High Mounted Brake Light Replacement
"NWF_Snake" <negast@knology.net> wrote in message
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> How do you remove the light holder from the rear shelf on a '98 Civic
> Coupe?
> I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge.
Have you looked for retaining bolts or fixtures in the underside of the
shelf, from inside the trunk?
SD
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> How do you remove the light holder from the rear shelf on a '98 Civic
> Coupe?
> I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge.
Have you looked for retaining bolts or fixtures in the underside of the
shelf, from inside the trunk?
SD
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Re: 98 Civic Coupe High Mounted Brake Light Replacement
"NWF_Snake" <negast@knology.net> wrote in message
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> How do you remove the light holder from the rear shelf on a '98 Civic
> Coupe?
> I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge.
Have you looked for retaining bolts or fixtures in the underside of the
shelf, from inside the trunk?
SD
news:1165851209.878040.212960@f1g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> How do you remove the light holder from the rear shelf on a '98 Civic
> Coupe?
> I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge.
Have you looked for retaining bolts or fixtures in the underside of the
shelf, from inside the trunk?
SD
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Re: 98 Civic Coupe High Mounted Brake Light Replacement
"NWF_Snake" <negast@knology.net> wrote in news:1165851209.878040.212960
@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> How do you remove the light holder from the rear shelf on a '98 Civic
> Coupe?
> I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge. Is
> there some other way
> to remove it so I can replace the light bulb? TIA.
>
You have to remove the rear parcel shelf, which is held in with a half
dozen clips. Flop the rear seats down, and pull up on the shelf. Be careful
not to break the clips or yank the brake lamp electrical connector.
Once the shelf is loose, there are two small screws on the underside of the
brake lamp housing. Remove those and the bulb is now accessible. Pretty
stupid design, I think.
--
Tegger
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@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> How do you remove the light holder from the rear shelf on a '98 Civic
> Coupe?
> I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge. Is
> there some other way
> to remove it so I can replace the light bulb? TIA.
>
You have to remove the rear parcel shelf, which is held in with a half
dozen clips. Flop the rear seats down, and pull up on the shelf. Be careful
not to break the clips or yank the brake lamp electrical connector.
Once the shelf is loose, there are two small screws on the underside of the
brake lamp housing. Remove those and the bulb is now accessible. Pretty
stupid design, I think.
--
Tegger
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Re: 98 Civic Coupe High Mounted Brake Light Replacement
"NWF_Snake" <negast@knology.net> wrote in news:1165851209.878040.212960
@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> How do you remove the light holder from the rear shelf on a '98 Civic
> Coupe?
> I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge. Is
> there some other way
> to remove it so I can replace the light bulb? TIA.
>
You have to remove the rear parcel shelf, which is held in with a half
dozen clips. Flop the rear seats down, and pull up on the shelf. Be careful
not to break the clips or yank the brake lamp electrical connector.
Once the shelf is loose, there are two small screws on the underside of the
brake lamp housing. Remove those and the bulb is now accessible. Pretty
stupid design, I think.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> How do you remove the light holder from the rear shelf on a '98 Civic
> Coupe?
> I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge. Is
> there some other way
> to remove it so I can replace the light bulb? TIA.
>
You have to remove the rear parcel shelf, which is held in with a half
dozen clips. Flop the rear seats down, and pull up on the shelf. Be careful
not to break the clips or yank the brake lamp electrical connector.
Once the shelf is loose, there are two small screws on the underside of the
brake lamp housing. Remove those and the bulb is now accessible. Pretty
stupid design, I think.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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Re: 98 Civic Coupe High Mounted Brake Light Replacement
"NWF_Snake" <negast@knology.net> wrote in news:1165851209.878040.212960
@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> How do you remove the light holder from the rear shelf on a '98 Civic
> Coupe?
> I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge. Is
> there some other way
> to remove it so I can replace the light bulb? TIA.
>
You have to remove the rear parcel shelf, which is held in with a half
dozen clips. Flop the rear seats down, and pull up on the shelf. Be careful
not to break the clips or yank the brake lamp electrical connector.
Once the shelf is loose, there are two small screws on the underside of the
brake lamp housing. Remove those and the bulb is now accessible. Pretty
stupid design, I think.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> How do you remove the light holder from the rear shelf on a '98 Civic
> Coupe?
> I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge. Is
> there some other way
> to remove it so I can replace the light bulb? TIA.
>
You have to remove the rear parcel shelf, which is held in with a half
dozen clips. Flop the rear seats down, and pull up on the shelf. Be careful
not to break the clips or yank the brake lamp electrical connector.
Once the shelf is loose, there are two small screws on the underside of the
brake lamp housing. Remove those and the bulb is now accessible. Pretty
stupid design, I think.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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Re: 98 Civic Coupe High Mounted Brake Light Replacement
"NWF_Snake" <negast@knology.net> wrote in news:1165851209.878040.212960
@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> How do you remove the light holder from the rear shelf on a '98 Civic
> Coupe?
> I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge. Is
> there some other way
> to remove it so I can replace the light bulb? TIA.
>
You have to remove the rear parcel shelf, which is held in with a half
dozen clips. Flop the rear seats down, and pull up on the shelf. Be careful
not to break the clips or yank the brake lamp electrical connector.
Once the shelf is loose, there are two small screws on the underside of the
brake lamp housing. Remove those and the bulb is now accessible. Pretty
stupid design, I think.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> How do you remove the light holder from the rear shelf on a '98 Civic
> Coupe?
> I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge. Is
> there some other way
> to remove it so I can replace the light bulb? TIA.
>
You have to remove the rear parcel shelf, which is held in with a half
dozen clips. Flop the rear seats down, and pull up on the shelf. Be careful
not to break the clips or yank the brake lamp electrical connector.
Once the shelf is loose, there are two small screws on the underside of the
brake lamp housing. Remove those and the bulb is now accessible. Pretty
stupid design, I think.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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Re: 98 Civic Coupe High Mounted Brake Light Replacement
Tegger wrote:
> "NWF_Snake" <negast@knology.net> wrote in news:1165851209.878040.212960
> @f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
>> How do you remove the light holder from the rear shelf on a '98 Civic
>> Coupe?
>> I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge. Is
>> there some other way
>> to remove it so I can replace the light bulb? TIA.
>>
>
>
> You have to remove the rear parcel shelf, which is held in with a half
> dozen clips. Flop the rear seats down, and pull up on the shelf. Be careful
> not to break the clips or yank the brake lamp electrical connector.
>
> Once the shelf is loose, there are two small screws on the underside of the
> brake lamp housing. Remove those and the bulb is now accessible. Pretty
> stupid design, I think.
>
the whole concept is stupid. we wouldn't need them at all if we didn't
have red rear turn signal lenses. detroit resists orange turn signals
because of trivial incremental cost increase. nhtsa wants them for
safety. the [brainless] political solution is the central brake light -
half the expense of orange signals and they still don't address the
fundamental safety issue of turn signals and brakes lights being the
same color. a truly despicable lack of gonads...
> "NWF_Snake" <negast@knology.net> wrote in news:1165851209.878040.212960
> @f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
>> How do you remove the light holder from the rear shelf on a '98 Civic
>> Coupe?
>> I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge. Is
>> there some other way
>> to remove it so I can replace the light bulb? TIA.
>>
>
>
> You have to remove the rear parcel shelf, which is held in with a half
> dozen clips. Flop the rear seats down, and pull up on the shelf. Be careful
> not to break the clips or yank the brake lamp electrical connector.
>
> Once the shelf is loose, there are two small screws on the underside of the
> brake lamp housing. Remove those and the bulb is now accessible. Pretty
> stupid design, I think.
>
the whole concept is stupid. we wouldn't need them at all if we didn't
have red rear turn signal lenses. detroit resists orange turn signals
because of trivial incremental cost increase. nhtsa wants them for
safety. the [brainless] political solution is the central brake light -
half the expense of orange signals and they still don't address the
fundamental safety issue of turn signals and brakes lights being the
same color. a truly despicable lack of gonads...
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Re: 98 Civic Coupe High Mounted Brake Light Replacement
Tegger wrote:
> "NWF_Snake" <negast@knology.net> wrote in news:1165851209.878040.212960
> @f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
>> How do you remove the light holder from the rear shelf on a '98 Civic
>> Coupe?
>> I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge. Is
>> there some other way
>> to remove it so I can replace the light bulb? TIA.
>>
>
>
> You have to remove the rear parcel shelf, which is held in with a half
> dozen clips. Flop the rear seats down, and pull up on the shelf. Be careful
> not to break the clips or yank the brake lamp electrical connector.
>
> Once the shelf is loose, there are two small screws on the underside of the
> brake lamp housing. Remove those and the bulb is now accessible. Pretty
> stupid design, I think.
>
the whole concept is stupid. we wouldn't need them at all if we didn't
have red rear turn signal lenses. detroit resists orange turn signals
because of trivial incremental cost increase. nhtsa wants them for
safety. the [brainless] political solution is the central brake light -
half the expense of orange signals and they still don't address the
fundamental safety issue of turn signals and brakes lights being the
same color. a truly despicable lack of gonads...
> "NWF_Snake" <negast@knology.net> wrote in news:1165851209.878040.212960
> @f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
>> How do you remove the light holder from the rear shelf on a '98 Civic
>> Coupe?
>> I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge. Is
>> there some other way
>> to remove it so I can replace the light bulb? TIA.
>>
>
>
> You have to remove the rear parcel shelf, which is held in with a half
> dozen clips. Flop the rear seats down, and pull up on the shelf. Be careful
> not to break the clips or yank the brake lamp electrical connector.
>
> Once the shelf is loose, there are two small screws on the underside of the
> brake lamp housing. Remove those and the bulb is now accessible. Pretty
> stupid design, I think.
>
the whole concept is stupid. we wouldn't need them at all if we didn't
have red rear turn signal lenses. detroit resists orange turn signals
because of trivial incremental cost increase. nhtsa wants them for
safety. the [brainless] political solution is the central brake light -
half the expense of orange signals and they still don't address the
fundamental safety issue of turn signals and brakes lights being the
same color. a truly despicable lack of gonads...
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Re: 98 Civic Coupe High Mounted Brake Light Replacement
Tegger wrote:
> "NWF_Snake" <negast@knology.net> wrote in news:1165851209.878040.212960
> @f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
>> How do you remove the light holder from the rear shelf on a '98 Civic
>> Coupe?
>> I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge. Is
>> there some other way
>> to remove it so I can replace the light bulb? TIA.
>>
>
>
> You have to remove the rear parcel shelf, which is held in with a half
> dozen clips. Flop the rear seats down, and pull up on the shelf. Be careful
> not to break the clips or yank the brake lamp electrical connector.
>
> Once the shelf is loose, there are two small screws on the underside of the
> brake lamp housing. Remove those and the bulb is now accessible. Pretty
> stupid design, I think.
>
the whole concept is stupid. we wouldn't need them at all if we didn't
have red rear turn signal lenses. detroit resists orange turn signals
because of trivial incremental cost increase. nhtsa wants them for
safety. the [brainless] political solution is the central brake light -
half the expense of orange signals and they still don't address the
fundamental safety issue of turn signals and brakes lights being the
same color. a truly despicable lack of gonads...
> "NWF_Snake" <negast@knology.net> wrote in news:1165851209.878040.212960
> @f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
>> How do you remove the light holder from the rear shelf on a '98 Civic
>> Coupe?
>> I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge. Is
>> there some other way
>> to remove it so I can replace the light bulb? TIA.
>>
>
>
> You have to remove the rear parcel shelf, which is held in with a half
> dozen clips. Flop the rear seats down, and pull up on the shelf. Be careful
> not to break the clips or yank the brake lamp electrical connector.
>
> Once the shelf is loose, there are two small screws on the underside of the
> brake lamp housing. Remove those and the bulb is now accessible. Pretty
> stupid design, I think.
>
the whole concept is stupid. we wouldn't need them at all if we didn't
have red rear turn signal lenses. detroit resists orange turn signals
because of trivial incremental cost increase. nhtsa wants them for
safety. the [brainless] political solution is the central brake light -
half the expense of orange signals and they still don't address the
fundamental safety issue of turn signals and brakes lights being the
same color. a truly despicable lack of gonads...
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Re: 98 Civic Coupe High Mounted Brake Light Replacement
Tegger wrote:
> "NWF_Snake" <negast@knology.net> wrote in news:1165851209.878040.212960
> @f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
>> How do you remove the light holder from the rear shelf on a '98 Civic
>> Coupe?
>> I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge. Is
>> there some other way
>> to remove it so I can replace the light bulb? TIA.
>>
>
>
> You have to remove the rear parcel shelf, which is held in with a half
> dozen clips. Flop the rear seats down, and pull up on the shelf. Be careful
> not to break the clips or yank the brake lamp electrical connector.
>
> Once the shelf is loose, there are two small screws on the underside of the
> brake lamp housing. Remove those and the bulb is now accessible. Pretty
> stupid design, I think.
>
the whole concept is stupid. we wouldn't need them at all if we didn't
have red rear turn signal lenses. detroit resists orange turn signals
because of trivial incremental cost increase. nhtsa wants them for
safety. the [brainless] political solution is the central brake light -
half the expense of orange signals and they still don't address the
fundamental safety issue of turn signals and brakes lights being the
same color. a truly despicable lack of gonads...
> "NWF_Snake" <negast@knology.net> wrote in news:1165851209.878040.212960
> @f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
>> How do you remove the light holder from the rear shelf on a '98 Civic
>> Coupe?
>> I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge. Is
>> there some other way
>> to remove it so I can replace the light bulb? TIA.
>>
>
>
> You have to remove the rear parcel shelf, which is held in with a half
> dozen clips. Flop the rear seats down, and pull up on the shelf. Be careful
> not to break the clips or yank the brake lamp electrical connector.
>
> Once the shelf is loose, there are two small screws on the underside of the
> brake lamp housing. Remove those and the bulb is now accessible. Pretty
> stupid design, I think.
>
the whole concept is stupid. we wouldn't need them at all if we didn't
have red rear turn signal lenses. detroit resists orange turn signals
because of trivial incremental cost increase. nhtsa wants them for
safety. the [brainless] political solution is the central brake light -
half the expense of orange signals and they still don't address the
fundamental safety issue of turn signals and brakes lights being the
same color. a truly despicable lack of gonads...
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Re: 98 Civic Coupe High Mounted Brake Light Replacement
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
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> Tegger wrote:
>> "NWF_Snake" <negast@knology.net> wrote in
>> news:1165851209.878040.212960 @f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> How do you remove the light holder from the rear shelf on a '98
>>> Civic Coupe?
>>> I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge. Is
>>> there some other way
>>> to remove it so I can replace the light bulb? TIA.
>>>
>>
>>
>> You have to remove the rear parcel shelf, which is held in with a
>> half dozen clips. Flop the rear seats down, and pull up on the shelf.
>> Be careful not to break the clips or yank the brake lamp electrical
>> connector.
>>
>> Once the shelf is loose, there are two small screws on the underside
>> of the brake lamp housing. Remove those and the bulb is now
>> accessible. Pretty stupid design, I think.
>>
> the whole concept is stupid. we wouldn't need them at all if we
> didn't have red rear turn signal lenses. detroit resists orange turn
> signals because of trivial incremental cost increase.
> nhtsa wants
> them for safety. the [brainless] political solution is the central
> brake light - half the expense of orange signals and they still don't
> address the fundamental safety issue of turn signals and brakes lights
> being the same color. a truly despicable lack of gonads...
>
CHMSLs have also been required in Europe since the late-'90s. And Europe
also requires amber turns.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
news:4JKdnSZNQouDHOLYnZ2dnUVZ_o-knZ2d@speakeasy.net:
> Tegger wrote:
>> "NWF_Snake" <negast@knology.net> wrote in
>> news:1165851209.878040.212960 @f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> How do you remove the light holder from the rear shelf on a '98
>>> Civic Coupe?
>>> I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge. Is
>>> there some other way
>>> to remove it so I can replace the light bulb? TIA.
>>>
>>
>>
>> You have to remove the rear parcel shelf, which is held in with a
>> half dozen clips. Flop the rear seats down, and pull up on the shelf.
>> Be careful not to break the clips or yank the brake lamp electrical
>> connector.
>>
>> Once the shelf is loose, there are two small screws on the underside
>> of the brake lamp housing. Remove those and the bulb is now
>> accessible. Pretty stupid design, I think.
>>
> the whole concept is stupid. we wouldn't need them at all if we
> didn't have red rear turn signal lenses. detroit resists orange turn
> signals because of trivial incremental cost increase.
> nhtsa wants
> them for safety. the [brainless] political solution is the central
> brake light - half the expense of orange signals and they still don't
> address the fundamental safety issue of turn signals and brakes lights
> being the same color. a truly despicable lack of gonads...
>
CHMSLs have also been required in Europe since the late-'90s. And Europe
also requires amber turns.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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Re: 98 Civic Coupe High Mounted Brake Light Replacement
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:4JKdnSZNQouDHOLYnZ2dnUVZ_o-knZ2d@speakeasy.net:
> Tegger wrote:
>> "NWF_Snake" <negast@knology.net> wrote in
>> news:1165851209.878040.212960 @f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> How do you remove the light holder from the rear shelf on a '98
>>> Civic Coupe?
>>> I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge. Is
>>> there some other way
>>> to remove it so I can replace the light bulb? TIA.
>>>
>>
>>
>> You have to remove the rear parcel shelf, which is held in with a
>> half dozen clips. Flop the rear seats down, and pull up on the shelf.
>> Be careful not to break the clips or yank the brake lamp electrical
>> connector.
>>
>> Once the shelf is loose, there are two small screws on the underside
>> of the brake lamp housing. Remove those and the bulb is now
>> accessible. Pretty stupid design, I think.
>>
> the whole concept is stupid. we wouldn't need them at all if we
> didn't have red rear turn signal lenses. detroit resists orange turn
> signals because of trivial incremental cost increase.
> nhtsa wants
> them for safety. the [brainless] political solution is the central
> brake light - half the expense of orange signals and they still don't
> address the fundamental safety issue of turn signals and brakes lights
> being the same color. a truly despicable lack of gonads...
>
CHMSLs have also been required in Europe since the late-'90s. And Europe
also requires amber turns.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
news:4JKdnSZNQouDHOLYnZ2dnUVZ_o-knZ2d@speakeasy.net:
> Tegger wrote:
>> "NWF_Snake" <negast@knology.net> wrote in
>> news:1165851209.878040.212960 @f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> How do you remove the light holder from the rear shelf on a '98
>>> Civic Coupe?
>>> I tried to twist the holder both ways, but it refuses to budge. Is
>>> there some other way
>>> to remove it so I can replace the light bulb? TIA.
>>>
>>
>>
>> You have to remove the rear parcel shelf, which is held in with a
>> half dozen clips. Flop the rear seats down, and pull up on the shelf.
>> Be careful not to break the clips or yank the brake lamp electrical
>> connector.
>>
>> Once the shelf is loose, there are two small screws on the underside
>> of the brake lamp housing. Remove those and the bulb is now
>> accessible. Pretty stupid design, I think.
>>
> the whole concept is stupid. we wouldn't need them at all if we
> didn't have red rear turn signal lenses. detroit resists orange turn
> signals because of trivial incremental cost increase.
> nhtsa wants
> them for safety. the [brainless] political solution is the central
> brake light - half the expense of orange signals and they still don't
> address the fundamental safety issue of turn signals and brakes lights
> being the same color. a truly despicable lack of gonads...
>
CHMSLs have also been required in Europe since the late-'90s. And Europe
also requires amber turns.
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