I am getting a chk eng light with a trouble code 12 and I replaced the
egr valve and the pcv valve along with new gas cap
I am still getting the light and same trouble code after resetting the
ecu

Any advice?

1995 Honda Accord

Thanx



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On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 01:25:35 +0000, lance4132 wrote:

> I am getting a chk eng light with a trouble code 12 and I replaced the egr
> valve and the pcv valve along with new gas cap I am still getting the
> light and same trouble code after resetting the ecu
>
> Any advice?
>
> 1995 Honda Accord
>
> Thanx


What's a 12? From the parts you replaced (hope you didn't throw a LOT of
money at it...EGRs are expensive!) I would look at my vaccuum lines before
anything else...they're cheap.

And, get a Chilton's or a Haynes!!! EGRs are REAL easy to test, and you
could have saved $$$$.

 

Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/ wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 01:25:35 +0000, lance4132 wrote:
>
>> I am getting a chk eng light with a trouble code 12 and I replaced the egr
>> valve and the pcv valve along with new gas cap I am still getting the
>> light and same trouble code after resetting the ecu
>>
>> Any advice?
>>
>> 1995 Honda Accord
>>
>> Thanx
>
>
> What's a 12? From the parts you replaced (hope you didn't throw a LOT of
> money at it...EGRs are expensive!) I would look at my vaccuum lines before
> anything else...they're cheap.
>
> And, get a Chilton's or a Haynes!!! EGRs are REAL easy to test, and you
> could have saved $$$$.
>
that's about the worst possible advice you can give. both are garbage
publications full of errors. the only manual worth buying for a honda
is the factory workshop manual from helm.com [or the dealer].

and if you don't know what a 12 is or how to fix it, why are you even
responding???

 

lance4132 wrote:
> I am getting a chk eng light with a trouble code 12 and I replaced the
> egr valve and the pcv valve along with new gas cap
> I am still getting the light and same trouble code after resetting the
> ecu
>
> Any advice?
>
> 1995 Honda Accord
>
> Thanx
>

check the control equipment - there's a couple of solenoids and some
vacuum tube that lifts the plunger in the egr valve. if that's
disconnected or broken, you'll get the code. also, check the electrical
connections between the egr valve/controls and ecu.

if it's not that, you'll have to investigate the ports for blockages.
i'm not sure if your series motor has the necessary sensors, but on
later vehicles, the ecu figures out when the egr system is not flowing
properly. if that's the case, you'll need to check out the port
cleaning procedure in this group archive, or i think on tegger.com.

 

On Apr 3, 10:25 pm, lance4132 <n...@000.com> wrote:
> I am getting a chk eng light with a trouble code 12 and I replaced the
> egr valve and the pcv valve along with new gas cap
> I am still getting the light and same trouble code after resetting the
> ecu
>
> Any advice?
>
> 1995 Honda Accord
>
> Thanx
>
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I'm working on the same problem with my '94 Accord.I traced it down to
the EGR control solenoid valve.The solenoid will work when jumped
electrically,but not supplying vaccum to the EGR valve.The ports are
very small and i don't suspect it would take much to plug them.I'll
let you know how i make out with mine.I may take the solenoid apart
first to check for restrictions (gotta bend back the factory crimps)
if not,i'll just swap it out with another.

BTW,You can download several service manuals from http://www.hondahookup.com/manuals/

 

Zippo wrote:
> On Apr 3, 10:25 pm, lance4132 <n...@000.com> wrote:
>> I am getting a chk eng light with a trouble code 12 and I replaced the
>> egr valve and the pcv valve along with new gas cap
>> I am still getting the light and same trouble code after resetting the
>> ecu
>>
>> Any advice?
>>
>> 1995 Honda Accord
>>
>> Thanx
>>
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>
> I'm working on the same problem with my '94 Accord.I traced it down to
> the EGR control solenoid valve.The solenoid will work when jumped
> electrically,but not supplying vaccum to the EGR valve.The ports are
> very small and i don't suspect it would take much to plug them.I'll
> let you know how i make out with mine.I may take the solenoid apart
> first to check for restrictions (gotta bend back the factory crimps)

you don't need to do that. just use a piece of rubber hose on the
diaphragm, suck back to open the valve, then pinch off the hose. it'll
stay open if it's working properly, /and/ it'll allow you to get a
scraper in there to clean out the orifice. that's all you need to do -
no disassembly required.

> if not,i'll just swap it out with another.
>
> BTW,You can download several service manuals from http://www.hondahookup.com/manuals/
>

 

On Apr 5, 12:48 am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> Zippo wrote:
> > On Apr 3, 10:25 pm, lance4132 <n...@000.com> wrote:
> >> I am getting a chk eng light with a trouble code 12 and I replaced the
> >> egr valve and the pcv valve along with new gas cap
> >> I am still getting the light and same trouble code after resetting the
> >> ecu
>
> >> Any advice?
>
> >> 1995 Honda Accord
>
> >> Thanx
>
> >> --
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> >> Articles individually verified to usenet standards. Visit URL to contact author/report abuse
> >> Thread archive:http://www.AutoBoardz.com/95-lx-chk-...ict210740.html
>
> > I'm working on the same problem with my '94 Accord.I traced it down to
> > the EGR control solenoid valve.The solenoid will work when jumped
> > electrically,but not supplying vaccum to the EGR valve.The ports are
> > very small and i don't suspect it would take much to plug them.I'll
> > let you know how i make out with mine.I may take the solenoid apart
> > first to check for restrictions (gotta bend back the factory crimps)
>
> you don't need to do that. just use a piece of rubber hose on the
> diaphragm, suck back to open the valve, then pinch off the hose. it'll
> stay open if it's working properly, /and/ it'll allow you to get a
> scraper in there to clean out the orifice. that's all you need to do -
> no disassembly required.
>
>
>
> > if not,i'll just swap it out with another.
>
> > BTW,You can download several service manuals fromhttp://www.hondahookup.com/manuals/- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


I was talking about the control valve solenoid,(that supplies vaccum
to the egr) not the EGR valve.

 

I have a '92 Accord, and had a similar experience with the check
engine light a few years ago during a vacation. Not knowing the cause,
I took my car to an out-of-town garage who were honest in stating that
a code 12 had been tripped, but very dishonest in suggesting that the
problem was (get this....) the ECU unit! Now that's a very expensive
part. I said "thanks...I'll think about it", and went to yet another
gararge down the street. Just to second the other response you got
here re: the egr valve, in my case it was the egr solenoid which
needed replacement...that was it. Real simple, and real cheap. This is
not the valve itself mind you (which periodically needs to be cleaned
due to carbon build-up), but a small round plastic part (green and
white) located in the egr control box near the firewall. - Paul.

On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 22:07:33 -0700, jim beam
<spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:

>lance4132 wrote:
>> I am getting a chk eng light with a trouble code 12 and I replaced the
>> egr valve and the pcv valve along with new gas cap
>> I am still getting the light and same trouble code after resetting the
>> ecu
>>
>> Any advice?
>>
>> 1995 Honda Accord
>>
>> Thanx
>>
>
>check the control equipment - there's a couple of solenoids and some
>vacuum tube that lifts the plunger in the egr valve. if that's
>disconnected or broken, you'll get the code. also, check the electrical
>connections between the egr valve/controls and ecu.
>
>if it's not that, you'll have to investigate the ports for blockages.
>i'm not sure if your series motor has the necessary sensors, but on
>later vehicles, the ecu figures out when the egr system is not flowing
>properly. if that's the case, you'll need to check out the port
>cleaning procedure in this group archive, or i think on tegger.com.

 

Zippo wrote:



> I was talking about the control valve solenoid,(that supplies vaccum
> to the egr) not the EGR valve.

One more thing to check for:

The ECU will also throw the EGR code if the EGR valve doesn't respond
fast enough, even though the system may otherwise be fine. After
testing just about every possible aspect of the circuit, I wound up
drilling out the solenoid metering orifices (located in the hose
attachment risers) a few thousandths. Problem fixed!

-Greg

 

"Zippo" <special.hfx@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1175811464.095312.42760@p77g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com:

> On Apr 5, 12:48 am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> Zippo wrote:
>> > On Apr 3, 10:25 pm, lance4132 <n...@000.com> wrote:
>> >> I am getting a chk eng light with a trouble code 12 and I replaced
>> >> the egr valve and the pcv valve along with new gas cap
>> >> I am still getting the light and same trouble code after resetting
>> >> the ecu
>>
>> >> Any advice?
>>
>> >> 1995 Honda Accord
>>
>> >> Thanx
>>
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>>
>> > I'm working on the same problem with my '94 Accord.I traced it down
>> > to the EGR control solenoid valve.The solenoid will work when
>> > jumped electrically,but not supplying vaccum to the EGR valve.The
>> > ports are very small and i don't suspect it would take much to plug
>> > them.I'll let you know how i make out with mine.I may take the
>> > solenoid apart first to check for restrictions (gotta bend back the
>> > factory crimps)
>>
>> you don't need to do that. just use a piece of rubber hose on the
>> diaphragm, suck back to open the valve, then pinch off the hose.
>> it'll stay open if it's working properly, /and/ it'll allow you to
>> get a scraper in there to clean out the orifice. that's all you need
>> to do - no disassembly required.
>>
>>
>>
>> > if not,i'll just swap it out with another.
>>
>> > BTW,You can download several service manuals
>> > fromhttp://www.hondahookup.com/manuals/- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>
> I was talking about the control valve solenoid,(that supplies vaccum
> to the egr) not the EGR valve.
>

I think this is another version of that troll;the clue is the "none@000com"
address

Also named "bray" and "jessica";exact same complaint.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

 

Paul S wrote:
> I have a '92 Accord, and had a similar experience with the check
> engine light a few years ago during a vacation. Not knowing the cause,
> I took my car to an out-of-town garage who were honest in stating that
> a code 12 had been tripped, but very dishonest in suggesting that the
> problem was (get this....) the ECU unit! Now that's a very expensive
> part. I said "thanks...I'll think about it", and went to yet another
> gararge down the street. Just to second the other response you got
> here re: the egr valve, in my case it was the egr solenoid which
> needed replacement...that was it. Real simple, and real cheap. This is
> not the valve itself mind you (which periodically needs to be cleaned
> due to carbon build-up), but a small round plastic part (green and
> white) located in the egr control box near the firewall. - Paul.
>

-------------------------------

Every Honda owner needs to read this part of Tegger's FAQ:

http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/faq_ii.html#changeecu

'Curly'

 

lance4132 wrote:
> I am getting a chk eng light with a trouble code 12 and I replaced the
> egr valve and the pcv valve along with new gas cap
> I am still getting the light and same trouble code after resetting the
> ecu
>
> Any advice?
>
> 1995 Honda Accord
>
> Thanx
>
>
>

We changed from the stock fuel cap over to a locking one, because of
thefts of gas in our neighborhood, that is a very safe one, but, the gas
prices can drive the animals to stupid acts. We have video surveillance
cams all over our home...

Anyway, the warning lights came on that the O2 or EGR was bad.

Seems that the Oxygen sense system also measures vacuum or pressure in
the fuel vapor re-circulatory system. Just changing the fuel cap (and,
it might be vented instad of sealed/non-vented) caused warning
indications.

I now really believe in checking the cap, the vacuum lines, before I
start into the expensive parts!

 

On Apr 6, 2:26 am, Greg Campbell <ggeone...@ccoxx.nnett> wrote:
> Zippo wrote:
> > I was talking about the control valve solenoid,(that supplies vaccum
> > to the egr) not the EGR valve.
>
> One more thing to check for:
>
> The ECU will also throw the EGR code if the EGR valve doesn't respond
> fast enough, even though the system may otherwise be fine. After
> testing just about every possible aspect of the circuit, I wound up
> drilling out the solenoid metering orifices (located in the hose
> attachment risers) a few thousandths. Problem fixed!
>
> -Greg

Had the identical problem with mine.Drilled out the bottom orifice on
the solenoid (plugged solid) and is now working perfect.