"septicman@peoplepc.com" <septicman@peoplepc.com> wrote in news:9c39c643-
f2d3-4b9b-9ac9-d38d1655fdd6@j22g2000...oglegroups.com:

> On May 4, 10:49 am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> septic...@peoplepc.com wrote:
>> > The engine runs flawlessly and gets 45 MPG local driving and 54 MPG
>> > highway.
>>
>> > Every 1,000 miles or so, I need to add about a pint of coolant each to
>> > the radiator and the reservoir.
>>
>> > Where should one look with these engines for coolant loss sources? I
>> > would especially appreciate suggestions from those who are familiar
>> > with this engine and this year or series.
>>
>> > Thanks in advance !
>>
>> 1. learn to cross-post.
>>
>> 2. check for evidence of leakage in the usual places, hoses, radiator,
>> coolant pump, etc.
>>
>> 3. check for bubbles in the expansion bottle. if yes, it's head gasket.
>
>
> Are your suggestions 'generic?' If so, I already know how to diagnose
> coolant loss and head gasket leaks. Did you read my post? I am not
> looking for generic advice, I am seeking posts from those particularly
> experienced with 1995 era Civics with the 1.5 who can cite the exact
> locations of coolant leaks observed and discovered. This is the
> purpose of a Honda group, i.e. for those directly involved with Hondas
> to share their experiences with other Honda owners, etc.




If you're looking for a "magic bullet" suggestion, there isn't one. The
'92-'95 Civic and any D-series engine have no special leak locations than
any other Honda model or engine.

The usual suspects are
1) corroded/fractured rad
2) overtightened hose ends (don't forget the little ones!)
3) water pump seal (most common with the use of aftermarket coolant)
4) hose running from rad filler neck to expansion reservoir
5) leaking head gasket

If no drips are apparent on the ground, then you look for deposits on the
block and rad. If none of those are present, then you do a cooling system
UV dye test. If that comes up blank, then you do a combustion chamber
pressure test for bubbles in the rad filler neck.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

 

Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns9A96488668007tegger@207.14.116.130:

> "septicman@peoplepc.com" <septicman@peoplepc.com> wrote in
> news:9c39c643-
> f2d3-4b9b-9ac9-d38d1655fdd6@j22g2000...oglegroups.com:
>
>> On May 4, 10:49 am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>>> septic...@peoplepc.com wrote:
>>> > The engine runs flawlessly and gets 45 MPG local driving and 54
>>> > MPG highway.
>>>
>>> > Every 1,000 miles or so, I need to add about a pint of coolant
>>> > each to the radiator and the reservoir.
>>>
>>> > Where should one look with these engines for coolant loss sources?
>>> > I would especially appreciate suggestions from those who are
>>> > familiar with this engine and this year or series.
>>>
>>> > Thanks in advance !
>>>
>>> 1. learn to cross-post.
>>>
>>> 2. check for evidence of leakage in the usual places, hoses,
>>> radiator, coolant pump, etc.
>>>
>>> 3. check for bubbles in the expansion bottle. if yes, it's head
>>> gasket.
>>
>>
>> Are your suggestions 'generic?' If so, I already know how to
>> diagnose coolant loss and head gasket leaks. Did you read my post?
>> I am not looking for generic advice, I am seeking posts from those
>> particularly experienced with 1995 era Civics with the 1.5 who can
>> cite the exact locations of coolant leaks observed and discovered.
>> This is the purpose of a Honda group, i.e. for those directly
>> involved with Hondas to share their experiences with other Honda
>> owners, etc.
>
>
>
>
> If you're looking for a "magic bullet" suggestion, there isn't one.
> The '92-'95 Civic and any D-series engine have no special leak
> locations than any other Honda model or engine.
>
> The usual suspects are
> 1) corroded/fractured rad
> 2) overtightened hose ends (don't forget the little ones!)
> 3) water pump seal (most common with the use of aftermarket coolant)
> 4) hose running from rad filler neck to expansion reservoir
> 5) leaking head gasket
>
> If no drips are apparent on the ground, then you look for deposits on
> the block and rad. If none of those are present, then you do a cooling
> system UV dye test. If that comes up blank, then you do a combustion
> chamber pressure test for bubbles in the rad filler neck.
>

anybody find 45 MPG city and 54 Hwy a bit of a stretch? I do.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

 

On 6 May 2008 11:42:36 GMT, Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:

>Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>news:Xns9A96488668007tegger@207.14.116.130:
>
>> "septicman@peoplepc.com" <septicman@peoplepc.com> wrote in
>> news:9c39c643-
>> f2d3-4b9b-9ac9-d38d1655fdd6@j22g2000...oglegroups.com:
>>
>>> On May 4, 10:49 am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>>>> septic...@peoplepc.com wrote:
>>>> > The engine runs flawlessly and gets 45 MPG local driving and 54
>>>> > MPG highway.
>>>>
>>>> > Every 1,000 miles or so, I need to add about a pint of coolant
>>>> > each to the radiator and the reservoir.
>>>>
>>>> > Where should one look with these engines for coolant loss sources?
>>>> > I would especially appreciate suggestions from those who are
>>>> > familiar with this engine and this year or series.
>>>>
>>>> > Thanks in advance !
>>>>
>>>> 1. learn to cross-post.
>>>>
>>>> 2. check for evidence of leakage in the usual places, hoses,
>>>> radiator, coolant pump, etc.
>>>>
>>>> 3. check for bubbles in the expansion bottle. if yes, it's head
>>>> gasket.
>>>
>>>
>>> Are your suggestions 'generic?' If so, I already know how to
>>> diagnose coolant loss and head gasket leaks. Did you read my post?
>>> I am not looking for generic advice, I am seeking posts from those
>>> particularly experienced with 1995 era Civics with the 1.5 who can
>>> cite the exact locations of coolant leaks observed and discovered.
>>> This is the purpose of a Honda group, i.e. for those directly
>>> involved with Hondas to share their experiences with other Honda
>>> owners, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> If you're looking for a "magic bullet" suggestion, there isn't one.
>> The '92-'95 Civic and any D-series engine have no special leak
>> locations than any other Honda model or engine.
>>
>> The usual suspects are
>> 1) corroded/fractured rad
>> 2) overtightened hose ends (don't forget the little ones!)
>> 3) water pump seal (most common with the use of aftermarket coolant)
>> 4) hose running from rad filler neck to expansion reservoir
>> 5) leaking head gasket
>>
>> If no drips are apparent on the ground, then you look for deposits on
>> the block and rad. If none of those are present, then you do a cooling
>> system UV dye test. If that comes up blank, then you do a combustion
>> chamber pressure test for bubbles in the rad filler neck.
>>
>
>anybody find 45 MPG city and 54 Hwy a bit of a stretch? I do.

Big stretch

 

Jim Yanik wrote:
> Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
> news:Xns9A96488668007tegger@207.14.116.130:
>
>
>>"septicman@peoplepc.com" <septicman@peoplepc.com> wrote in
>>news:9c39c643-
>>f2d3-4b9b-9ac9-d38d1655fdd6@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>>On May 4, 10:49 am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>septic...@peoplepc.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>The engine runs flawlessly and gets 45 MPG local driving and 54
>>>>>MPG highway.
>>>>
>>>>>Every 1,000 miles or so, I need to add about a pint of coolant
>>>>>each to the radiator and the reservoir.
>>>>
>>>>>Where should one look with these engines for coolant loss sources?
>>>>> I would especially appreciate suggestions from those who are
>>>>>familiar with this engine and this year or series.
>>>>
>>>>>Thanks in advance !
>>>>
>>>>1. learn to cross-post.
>>>>
>>>>2. check for evidence of leakage in the usual places, hoses,
>>>>radiator, coolant pump, etc.
>>>>
>>>>3. check for bubbles in the expansion bottle. if yes, it's head
>>>>gasket.
>>>
>>>
>>>Are your suggestions 'generic?' If so, I already know how to
>>>diagnose coolant loss and head gasket leaks. Did you read my post?
>>>I am not looking for generic advice, I am seeking posts from those
>>>particularly experienced with 1995 era Civics with the 1.5 who can
>>>cite the exact locations of coolant leaks observed and discovered.
>>>This is the purpose of a Honda group, i.e. for those directly
>>>involved with Hondas to share their experiences with other Honda
>>>owners, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>If you're looking for a "magic bullet" suggestion, there isn't one.
>>The '92-'95 Civic and any D-series engine have no special leak
>>locations than any other Honda model or engine.
>>
>>The usual suspects are
>>1) corroded/fractured rad
>>2) overtightened hose ends (don't forget the little ones!)
>>3) water pump seal (most common with the use of aftermarket coolant)
>>4) hose running from rad filler neck to expansion reservoir
>>5) leaking head gasket
>>
>>If no drips are apparent on the ground, then you look for deposits on
>>the block and rad. If none of those are present, then you do a cooling
>>system UV dye test. If that comes up blank, then you do a combustion
>>chamber pressure test for bubbles in the rad filler neck.
>>
>
>
> anybody find 45 MPG city and 54 Hwy a bit of a stretch? I do.
>

Yep... The 1300 engine in late gen 2 Civics and early CRX models are
the only ones I know of that approached those figures. I also suspect
that mileage on those would not be as high with today's crappy gas.

My '83 Civic FE gets around 41 mpg in mixed driving but that also
includes keeping it 60 mph or lower. Noteworthy may be the fact that it
has an '81 engine which was not quite as efficient.

Of course, on usenet, anyone can claim anything...

JT

 

Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
news:M91Uj.298799$cQ1.176005@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:

>
>
> Jim Yanik wrote:
>> Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>> news:Xns9A96488668007tegger@207.14.116.130:

>>>
>>
>>
>> anybody find 45 MPG city and 54 Hwy a bit of a stretch? I do.
>>
>
> Yep... The 1300 engine in late gen 2 Civics and early CRX models are
> the only ones I know of that approached those figures. I also suspect
> that mileage on those would not be as high with today's crappy gas.
>
> My '83 Civic FE gets around 41 mpg in mixed driving but that also
> includes keeping it 60 mph or lower. Noteworthy may be the fact that
> it has an '81 engine which was not quite as efficient.
>
> Of course, on usenet, anyone can claim anything...
>


Or simply be guessing, or doing the miles-per-tank thing.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

 

Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns9A96BA4CEA96Ategger@207.14.116.130:

> Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
> news:M91Uj.298799$cQ1.176005@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
>>
>>
>> Jim Yanik wrote:
>>> Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>>> news:Xns9A96488668007tegger@207.14.116.130:
>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> anybody find 45 MPG city and 54 Hwy a bit of a stretch? I do.
>>>
>>
>> Yep... The 1300 engine in late gen 2 Civics and early CRX models are
>> the only ones I know of that approached those figures. I also suspect
>> that mileage on those would not be as high with today's crappy gas.
>>
>> My '83 Civic FE gets around 41 mpg in mixed driving but that also
>> includes keeping it 60 mph or lower. Noteworthy may be the fact that
>> it has an '81 engine which was not quite as efficient.
>>
>> Of course, on usenet, anyone can claim anything...
>>
>
>
> Or simply be guessing, or doing the miles-per-tank thing.
>

I asked on a Nissan forum about Sentra mileage,and some guys were quoting
what their trip computer was showing as their present mileage,not actual
miles traveled from the odometer divided by gallons put in to fill back up
to FULL.Their quoted MPG from their trip computer was rather high.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

 

What are you illiterate or something, cause I put a lot more detail
then your talkin posts.

Damn surrounded by. A bunch of haters, I bet if people helped post
questions to help dude out instead of quotin my then maybe we
could help man out. But since u gotta quote me, probably means u
ain't got nothin helpful to post, so hate on my suggestions it'll
make you feel bigger and smarter then me, jus look at the results.
Lol
> I don't know about your answer being generic (ok, it was), but it was
> pretty close to unreadable.

 

On May 7, 3:48 am, Backwoodz Tuner <joezl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What are you illiterate or something, cause I put a lot more detail
> then your talkin posts.
>
> Damn surrounded by. A bunch of haters, I bet if people helped post
> questions to help dude out instead of quotin my then maybe we
> could help man out. But since u gotta quote me, probably means u
> ain't got nothin helpful to post, so hate on my suggestions it'll
> make you feel bigger and smarter then me, jus look at the results.
> Lol
>
>
>
> > I don't know about your answer being generic (ok, it was), but it was
> > pretty close to unreadable.- Hide quoted text -

A reply to the group AND an email saying a whole bunch more, that's
called taking things too seriously.

Lighten up, Francis.

 

On May 6, 5:21 pm, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote:
> Grumpy AuContraire <Gru...@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote innews:M91Uj.298799$cQ1.176005@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Jim Yanik wrote:
> >> Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote in
> >>news:Xns9A96488668007tegger@207.14.116.130:
>
> >> anybody find 45 MPG city and 54 Hwy a bit of a stretch? I do.
>
> > Yep... The 1300 engine in late gen 2 Civics and early CRX models are
> > the only ones I know of that approached those figures. I also suspect
> > that mileage on those would not be as high with today's crappy gas.
>
> > My '83 Civic FE gets around 41 mpg in mixed driving but that also
> > includes keeping it 60 mph or lower. Noteworthy may be the fact that
> > it has an '81 engine which was not quite as efficient.
>
> > Of course, on usenet, anyone can claim anything...
>
> Or simply be guessing, or doing the miles-per-tank thing.
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I hear you on this. Yes, the typical 99.999% US moron driver not only
doesn't understand supply and demand and how they affect gasoline
prices, they also don't have a clue as to how to determine actually
fuel economy in miles driven divided by gallon consumed. I, for one,
have been checking actual fuel economy continually for 30+ years as
the door squeaks before I open it. Ask any of the moronic 99.999 and
they will say something like "tanks per week/month/whatever." I don't
mind, because I snap up the full-size late 90's Ford cars for a steal
(Town Cars, Continentals, Crown Vics and Grand Marquis) for their
amazing fuel economy--their owners in their own ignorance consider
those cars gas guzzlers ...go figure.

Some of the reasons why my 95 Civic gets such consistenly great fuel
is economy: Full synthetic oil; tires inflated to 35 psi front, 32
psi rear; super-smooth accelerating; anticipating stop lights; driving
at steady speeds, usually not more than 5 over the limit; minimizing
braking; if it ain't moving it ain't running (no pre-warming/cooling
car); all driving is rural/small town. Also, the wheel alignment is
set at zero compensation for crowned roads or anything (front wheels
dead parallel to one another); frequent tire rotation to provent
chopping and pulling; bla bla bla

My 99 Continental sometimes gets 30 MPG--pretty good for a blazing
fast heavy car.

 

On May 6, 7:42 am, Jim Yanik <jya...@abuse.gov> wrote:
> Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote innews:Xns9A96488668007tegger@207.14.116.130:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "septic...@peoplepc.com" <septic...@peoplepc.com> wrote in
> > news:9c39c643-
> > f2d3-4b9b-9ac9-d38d1655f...@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> On May 4, 10:49 am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> >>> septic...@peoplepc.com wrote:
> >>> > The engine runs flawlessly and gets 45 MPG local driving and 54
> >>> > MPG highway.
>
> >>> > Every 1,000 miles or so, I need to add about a pint of coolant
> >>> > each to the radiator and the reservoir.
>
> >>> > Where should one look with these engines for coolant loss sources?
> >>> > I would especially appreciate suggestions from those who are
> >>> > familiar with this engine and this year or series.
>
> >>> > Thanks in advance !
>
> >>> 1. learn to cross-post.
>
> >>> 2. check for evidence of leakage in the usual places, hoses,
> >>> radiator, coolant pump, etc.
>
> >>> 3. check for bubbles in the expansion bottle. if yes, it's head
> >>> gasket.
>
> >> Are your suggestions 'generic?' If so, I already know how to
> >> diagnose coolant loss and head gasket leaks. Did you read my post?
> >> I am not looking for generic advice, I am seeking posts from those
> >> particularly experienced with 1995 era Civics with the 1.5 who can
> >> cite the exact locations of coolant leaks observed and discovered.
> >> This is the purpose of a Honda group, i.e. for those directly
> >> involved with Hondas to share their experiences with other Honda
> >> owners, etc.
>
> > If you're looking for a "magic bullet" suggestion, there isn't one.
> > The '92-'95 Civic and any D-series engine have no special leak
> > locations than any other Honda model or engine.
>
> > The usual suspects are
> > 1) corroded/fractured rad
> > 2) overtightened hose ends (don't forget the little ones!)
> > 3) water pump seal (most common with the use of aftermarket coolant)
> > 4) hose running from rad filler neck to expansion reservoir
> > 5) leaking head gasket
>
> > If no drips are apparent on the ground, then you look for deposits on
> > the block and rad. If none of those are present, then you do a cooling
> > system UV dye test. If that comes up blank, then you do a combustion
> > chamber pressure test for bubbles in the rad filler neck.
>
> anybody find 45 MPG city and 54 Hwy a bit of a stretch? I do.
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

canadian gallon?

 

On May 7, 12:41 pm, z <gzuck...@snail-mail.net> wrote:
> On May 6, 7:42 am, Jim Yanik <jya...@abuse.gov> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote innews:Xns9A96488668007tegger@207.14.116.130:
>
> > > "septic...@peoplepc.com" <septic...@peoplepc.com> wrote in
> > > news:9c39c643-
> > > f2d3-4b9b-9ac9-d38d1655f...@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>
> > >> On May 4, 10:49 am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> > >>> septic...@peoplepc.com wrote:
> > >>> > The engine runs flawlessly and gets 45 MPG local driving and 54
> > >>> > MPG highway.
>
> > >>> > Every 1,000 miles or so, I need to add about a pint of coolant
> > >>> > each to the radiator and the reservoir.
>
> > >>> > Where should one look with these engines for coolant loss sources?
> > >>> > I would especially appreciate suggestions from those who are
> > >>> > familiar with this engine and this year or series.
>
> > >>> > Thanks in advance !
>
> > >>> 1. learn to cross-post.
>
> > >>> 2. check for evidence of leakage in the usual places, hoses,
> > >>> radiator, coolant pump, etc.
>
> > >>> 3. check for bubbles in the expansion bottle. if yes, it's head
> > >>> gasket.
>
> > >> Are your suggestions 'generic?' If so, I already know how to
> > >> diagnose coolant loss and head gasket leaks. Did you read my post?
> > >> I am not looking for generic advice, I am seeking posts from those
> > >> particularly experienced with 1995 era Civics with the 1.5 who can
> > >> cite the exact locations of coolant leaks observed and discovered.
> > >> This is the purpose of a Honda group, i.e. for those directly
> > >> involved with Hondas to share their experiences with other Honda
> > >> owners, etc.
>
> > > If you're looking for a "magic bullet" suggestion, there isn't one.
> > > The '92-'95 Civic and any D-series engine have no special leak
> > > locations than any other Honda model or engine.
>
> > > The usual suspects are
> > > 1) corroded/fractured rad
> > > 2) overtightened hose ends (don't forget the little ones!)
> > > 3) water pump seal (most common with the use of aftermarket coolant)
> > > 4) hose running from rad filler neck to expansion reservoir
> > > 5) leaking head gasket
>
> > > If no drips are apparent on the ground, then you look for deposits on
> > > the block and rad. If none of those are present, then you do a cooling
> > > system UV dye test. If that comes up blank, then you do a combustion
> > > chamber pressure test for bubbles in the rad filler neck.
>
> > anybody find 45 MPG city and 54 Hwy a bit of a stretch? I do.
>
> > --
> > Jim Yanik
> > jyanik
> > at
> > kua.net- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> canadian gallon?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Dude, it's like dude, it's cool dude, whatever dude, farout dude,
dude !!

 

Tony Hwang wrote:
> septicman@peoplepc.com wrote:
>
>> The engine runs flawlessly and gets 45 MPG local driving and 54 MPG
>> highway.
>>
>> Every 1,000 miles or so, I need to add about a pint of coolant each to
>> the radiator and the reservoir.
>>
>> Where should one look with these engines for coolant loss sources? I
>> would especially appreciate suggestions from those who are familiar
>> with this engine and this year or series.
>>
>> Thanks in advance !
>
> Hi,
> I'd just replace rad. cap on spec. and watch exhaust for sign of water
> (sweet smell and white steam color) in case there is head gasket
> problem. Also keep a watch on coolant temp,


I had the same problem. It turned out to be a leaking water pump,
which was due for replacement anyway. Happy ending.

 

On May 13, 11:05 pm, "mjc13<REMOVETHIS>"
<"mjc13<REMOVETHIS>"@verizon.net> wrote:
> Tony Hwang wrote:
> > septic...@peoplepc.com wrote:
>
> >> The engine runs flawlessly and gets 45 MPG local driving and 54 MPG
> >> highway.
>
> >> Every 1,000 miles or so, I need to add about a pint of coolant each to
> >> the radiator and the reservoir.
>
> >> Where should one look with these engines for coolant loss sources? I
> >> would especially appreciate suggestions from those who are familiar
> >> with this engine and this year or series.
>
> >> Thanks in advance !
>
> > Hi,
> > I'd just replace rad. cap on spec. and watch exhaust for sign of water
> > (sweet smell and white steam color) in case there is head gasket
> > problem. Also keep a watch on coolant temp,
>
> I had the same problem. It turned out to be a leaking water pump,
> which was due for replacement anyway. Happy ending.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks for the information !!

 

septicman@peoplepc.com wrote:
> On May 13, 11:05 pm, "mjc13<REMOVETHIS>"
> <"mjc13<REMOVETHIS>"@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>Tony Hwang wrote:
>>
>>>septic...@peoplepc.com wrote:
>>
>>>>The engine runs flawlessly and gets 45 MPG local driving and 54 MPG
>>>>highway.
>>
>>>>Every 1,000 miles or so, I need to add about a pint of coolant each to
>>>>the radiator and the reservoir.
>>
>>>>Where should one look with these engines for coolant loss sources? I
>>>>would especially appreciate suggestions from those who are familiar
>>>>with this engine and this year or series.
>>
>>>>Thanks in advance !
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>I'd just replace rad. cap on spec. and watch exhaust for sign of water
>>>(sweet smell and white steam color) in case there is head gasket
>>>problem. Also keep a watch on coolant temp,
>>
>> I had the same problem. It turned out to be a leaking water pump,
>>which was due for replacement anyway. Happy ending.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>- Show quoted text -
>
>
> Thanks for the information !!


One note, though: I have the 1.6 engine, in a sedan. The principle
remains the same, however.