Randolph <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Doug McCrary wrote:
> >
> > Stewart DIBBS <sjd@vysor.com> wrote in message
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> > > "Rein" <rruiterNO-SPAM@NO-SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:q8iuu09pm3uf01ku4ofe0udvk80jjrci24@4ax.com...
> > > > What kind of refrigerant does the 93 Accord uses in the Air
> > > > conditioning? I can buy a 93 accord with an ac that needs work and
I'd
> > > > like to know. IF it's the old refrigerant that is no longer made (is
> > > > it R12?) then I probably won't bother. When did Honda start using
R134?
> > >
> > > Here in Canada, most if not all manufacturers used R143A 1994 onwards.
> > >
> > > Stewart DIBBS
> > >
> > >
> > Either way, I wanted to mention that one of the AC techs where I work
told
> > me some time ago that there is a new product which will work properly on
> > either type of system, at just slightly more than the cost of R134.
> > I haven't seen them using it yet in our fleet, but that's what he said.
>
> There were a large number of R-12 substitutes introduced after the ban
> on the proper R-12. None of them gained much momentum. One issue is that
> the EPA requires a unique set of fittings for each refrigerant to reduce
> the chance of inadvertent mixing of incompatible refrigerants. If you
> Google a bit, you can find quite a bit of info on this.
>
> When my brother's '87 VW sprung a refrigerant leak back in 2000, he had
> the leak fixed and the system recharged with R-12 at a nasty price. 4
> years later, the A/C is working as good as ever.
>
> One could speculate that as it now is more than 10 years since R-12 was
> phased out for new cars, the number of cars on the road requiring R-12
> (and that people would spend money on for A/C repairs) should be in a
> steep decline. Perhaps the R-12 prices won't go much higher.

I'm not sure what I'd Google on, being somewhat ignorant of the subject, but
I'll be certain to talk to the AC tech about it when I get the chance.

As to prices, there certainly could come a time when it's cheaper to replace
a system then to buy R12 for an old one. OTOH, in my (compny's) case, time
is also a factor, as certain vehicles MUST have functional AC, or cannot be
used.

Thanks for the input.

 

Randolph <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Doug McCrary wrote:
> >
> > Stewart DIBBS <sjd@vysor.com> wrote in message
news:41ef9ff3$1_3@aeinews....
> > > "Rein" <rruiterNO-SPAM@NO-SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:q8iuu09pm3uf01ku4ofe0udvk80jjrci24@4ax.com...
> > > > What kind of refrigerant does the 93 Accord uses in the Air
> > > > conditioning? I can buy a 93 accord with an ac that needs work and
I'd
> > > > like to know. IF it's the old refrigerant that is no longer made (is
> > > > it R12?) then I probably won't bother. When did Honda start using
R134?
> > >
> > > Here in Canada, most if not all manufacturers used R143A 1994 onwards.
> > >
> > > Stewart DIBBS
> > >
> > >
> > Either way, I wanted to mention that one of the AC techs where I work
told
> > me some time ago that there is a new product which will work properly on
> > either type of system, at just slightly more than the cost of R134.
> > I haven't seen them using it yet in our fleet, but that's what he said.
>
> There were a large number of R-12 substitutes introduced after the ban
> on the proper R-12. None of them gained much momentum. One issue is that
> the EPA requires a unique set of fittings for each refrigerant to reduce
> the chance of inadvertent mixing of incompatible refrigerants. If you
> Google a bit, you can find quite a bit of info on this.
>
> When my brother's '87 VW sprung a refrigerant leak back in 2000, he had
> the leak fixed and the system recharged with R-12 at a nasty price. 4
> years later, the A/C is working as good as ever.
>
> One could speculate that as it now is more than 10 years since R-12 was
> phased out for new cars, the number of cars on the road requiring R-12
> (and that people would spend money on for A/C repairs) should be in a
> steep decline. Perhaps the R-12 prices won't go much higher.

I'm not sure what I'd Google on, being somewhat ignorant of the subject, but
I'll be certain to talk to the AC tech about it when I get the chance.

As to prices, there certainly could come a time when it's cheaper to replace
a system then to buy R12 for an old one. OTOH, in my (compny's) case, time
is also a factor, as certain vehicles MUST have functional AC, or cannot be
used.

Thanks for the input.