I placed the fuse in and it remained intact until I press the brake, then
the fuse blew. Short somewhere, trying to track it down. Whats the best way
to locate a short?


"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:3FBD99C9.2F585C36@junkmail.com...
> > Yes odd isn't it? I am wondering if light was wired wrong. There is a
fuse
> > in the engine compartment (20amp) that keeps blowing. The fuse is
labeled
> > Stop, Horn, (Seat belt retractors) Is the stop portion brake system?
>
> I believe it is. With that fuse blown, the shift lock system won't work
> either. Does the fuse blow at random, or only when you are stepping on
> the brakes?

 

I placed the fuse in and it remained intact until I press the brake, then
the fuse blew. Short somewhere, trying to track it down. Whats the best way
to locate a short?


"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:3FBD99C9.2F585C36@junkmail.com...
> > Yes odd isn't it? I am wondering if light was wired wrong. There is a
fuse
> > in the engine compartment (20amp) that keeps blowing. The fuse is
labeled
> > Stop, Horn, (Seat belt retractors) Is the stop portion brake system?
>
> I believe it is. With that fuse blown, the shift lock system won't work
> either. Does the fuse blow at random, or only when you are stepping on
> the brakes?

 

Same fuse also controls the horn. I place the fuse in without pressing the
pedal and the horn blows, fuse stays intact.

"Cracker Jacks" <cjacks@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:4Lvvb.2401$b91.648@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
> I placed the fuse in and it remained intact until I press the brake, then
> the fuse blew. Short somewhere, trying to track it down. Whats the best
way
> to locate a short?
>
>
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3FBD99C9.2F585C36@junkmail.com...
> > > Yes odd isn't it? I am wondering if light was wired wrong. There is
a
> fuse
> > > in the engine compartment (20amp) that keeps blowing. The fuse is
> labeled
> > > Stop, Horn, (Seat belt retractors) Is the stop portion brake system?
> >
> > I believe it is. With that fuse blown, the shift lock system won't work
> > either. Does the fuse blow at random, or only when you are stepping on
> > the brakes?
>
>

 

Same fuse also controls the horn. I place the fuse in without pressing the
pedal and the horn blows, fuse stays intact.

"Cracker Jacks" <cjacks@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:4Lvvb.2401$b91.648@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
> I placed the fuse in and it remained intact until I press the brake, then
> the fuse blew. Short somewhere, trying to track it down. Whats the best
way
> to locate a short?
>
>
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3FBD99C9.2F585C36@junkmail.com...
> > > Yes odd isn't it? I am wondering if light was wired wrong. There is
a
> fuse
> > > in the engine compartment (20amp) that keeps blowing. The fuse is
> labeled
> > > Stop, Horn, (Seat belt retractors) Is the stop portion brake system?
> >
> > I believe it is. With that fuse blown, the shift lock system won't work
> > either. Does the fuse blow at random, or only when you are stepping on
> > the brakes?
>
>

 

Same fuse also controls the horn. I place the fuse in without pressing the
pedal and the horn blows, fuse stays intact.

"Cracker Jacks" <cjacks@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:4Lvvb.2401$b91.648@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
> I placed the fuse in and it remained intact until I press the brake, then
> the fuse blew. Short somewhere, trying to track it down. Whats the best
way
> to locate a short?
>
>
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3FBD99C9.2F585C36@junkmail.com...
> > > Yes odd isn't it? I am wondering if light was wired wrong. There is
a
> fuse
> > > in the engine compartment (20amp) that keeps blowing. The fuse is
> labeled
> > > Stop, Horn, (Seat belt retractors) Is the stop portion brake system?
> >
> > I believe it is. With that fuse blown, the shift lock system won't work
> > either. Does the fuse blow at random, or only when you are stepping on
> > the brakes?
>
>

 

Same fuse also controls the horn. I place the fuse in without pressing the
pedal and the horn blows, fuse stays intact.

"Cracker Jacks" <cjacks@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:4Lvvb.2401$b91.648@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
> I placed the fuse in and it remained intact until I press the brake, then
> the fuse blew. Short somewhere, trying to track it down. Whats the best
way
> to locate a short?
>
>
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3FBD99C9.2F585C36@junkmail.com...
> > > Yes odd isn't it? I am wondering if light was wired wrong. There is
a
> fuse
> > > in the engine compartment (20amp) that keeps blowing. The fuse is
> labeled
> > > Stop, Horn, (Seat belt retractors) Is the stop portion brake system?
> >
> > I believe it is. With that fuse blown, the shift lock system won't work
> > either. Does the fuse blow at random, or only when you are stepping on
> > the brakes?
>
>

 

The short answer is that tracking down a short is cam be a royal pain in
the butt. In your case we know it is somewhere between the switch at the
brake pedal and the brake lights in the back. I would start by removing
all the brake light bulbs and see if the fuse still blows when you step
on the brakes. Typically there are TWO brake light bulbs on each side
plus the high mount one. Sometimes when bulbs fail they become dead
shorts. If the fuse stays intact when you press on the brake with all
bulbs removed, I would just replace with all new bulbs.

Also check the wiring where it connects to the tail lights. See if the
insulation is worn off so that bare copper can rub against the sheet
metal or anything else that is grounded.

Any time the wire harness passes through a hole in the sheet metal there
is potential for problems. Checked for nicks in the insulation at such
points.

Lastly, if your car has the warning light for broken brake bulbs, that
would be a place to check as well. I believe the control module for that
feature is mounted somewhere in the trunk.

Cracker Jacks wrote:
>
> I placed the fuse in and it remained intact until I press the brake, then
> the fuse blew. Short somewhere, trying to track it down. Whats the best way
> to locate a short?
>
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3FBD99C9.2F585C36@junkmail.com...
> > > Yes odd isn't it? I am wondering if light was wired wrong. There is a
> fuse
> > > in the engine compartment (20amp) that keeps blowing. The fuse is
> labeled
> > > Stop, Horn, (Seat belt retractors) Is the stop portion brake system?
> >
> > I believe it is. With that fuse blown, the shift lock system won't work
> > either. Does the fuse blow at random, or only when you are stepping on
> > the brakes?

 

The short answer is that tracking down a short is cam be a royal pain in
the butt. In your case we know it is somewhere between the switch at the
brake pedal and the brake lights in the back. I would start by removing
all the brake light bulbs and see if the fuse still blows when you step
on the brakes. Typically there are TWO brake light bulbs on each side
plus the high mount one. Sometimes when bulbs fail they become dead
shorts. If the fuse stays intact when you press on the brake with all
bulbs removed, I would just replace with all new bulbs.

Also check the wiring where it connects to the tail lights. See if the
insulation is worn off so that bare copper can rub against the sheet
metal or anything else that is grounded.

Any time the wire harness passes through a hole in the sheet metal there
is potential for problems. Checked for nicks in the insulation at such
points.

Lastly, if your car has the warning light for broken brake bulbs, that
would be a place to check as well. I believe the control module for that
feature is mounted somewhere in the trunk.

Cracker Jacks wrote:
>
> I placed the fuse in and it remained intact until I press the brake, then
> the fuse blew. Short somewhere, trying to track it down. Whats the best way
> to locate a short?
>
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3FBD99C9.2F585C36@junkmail.com...
> > > Yes odd isn't it? I am wondering if light was wired wrong. There is a
> fuse
> > > in the engine compartment (20amp) that keeps blowing. The fuse is
> labeled
> > > Stop, Horn, (Seat belt retractors) Is the stop portion brake system?
> >
> > I believe it is. With that fuse blown, the shift lock system won't work
> > either. Does the fuse blow at random, or only when you are stepping on
> > the brakes?

 

The short answer is that tracking down a short is cam be a royal pain in
the butt. In your case we know it is somewhere between the switch at the
brake pedal and the brake lights in the back. I would start by removing
all the brake light bulbs and see if the fuse still blows when you step
on the brakes. Typically there are TWO brake light bulbs on each side
plus the high mount one. Sometimes when bulbs fail they become dead
shorts. If the fuse stays intact when you press on the brake with all
bulbs removed, I would just replace with all new bulbs.

Also check the wiring where it connects to the tail lights. See if the
insulation is worn off so that bare copper can rub against the sheet
metal or anything else that is grounded.

Any time the wire harness passes through a hole in the sheet metal there
is potential for problems. Checked for nicks in the insulation at such
points.

Lastly, if your car has the warning light for broken brake bulbs, that
would be a place to check as well. I believe the control module for that
feature is mounted somewhere in the trunk.

Cracker Jacks wrote:
>
> I placed the fuse in and it remained intact until I press the brake, then
> the fuse blew. Short somewhere, trying to track it down. Whats the best way
> to locate a short?
>
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3FBD99C9.2F585C36@junkmail.com...
> > > Yes odd isn't it? I am wondering if light was wired wrong. There is a
> fuse
> > > in the engine compartment (20amp) that keeps blowing. The fuse is
> labeled
> > > Stop, Horn, (Seat belt retractors) Is the stop portion brake system?
> >
> > I believe it is. With that fuse blown, the shift lock system won't work
> > either. Does the fuse blow at random, or only when you are stepping on
> > the brakes?

 

The short answer is that tracking down a short is cam be a royal pain in
the butt. In your case we know it is somewhere between the switch at the
brake pedal and the brake lights in the back. I would start by removing
all the brake light bulbs and see if the fuse still blows when you step
on the brakes. Typically there are TWO brake light bulbs on each side
plus the high mount one. Sometimes when bulbs fail they become dead
shorts. If the fuse stays intact when you press on the brake with all
bulbs removed, I would just replace with all new bulbs.

Also check the wiring where it connects to the tail lights. See if the
insulation is worn off so that bare copper can rub against the sheet
metal or anything else that is grounded.

Any time the wire harness passes through a hole in the sheet metal there
is potential for problems. Checked for nicks in the insulation at such
points.

Lastly, if your car has the warning light for broken brake bulbs, that
would be a place to check as well. I believe the control module for that
feature is mounted somewhere in the trunk.

Cracker Jacks wrote:
>
> I placed the fuse in and it remained intact until I press the brake, then
> the fuse blew. Short somewhere, trying to track it down. Whats the best way
> to locate a short?
>
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3FBD99C9.2F585C36@junkmail.com...
> > > Yes odd isn't it? I am wondering if light was wired wrong. There is a
> fuse
> > > in the engine compartment (20amp) that keeps blowing. The fuse is
> labeled
> > > Stop, Horn, (Seat belt retractors) Is the stop portion brake system?
> >
> > I believe it is. With that fuse blown, the shift lock system won't work
> > either. Does the fuse blow at random, or only when you are stepping on
> > the brakes?

 

ok heres an update. I tested the brake switch it's good. I removed all bulbs
in the back, fuse still blew. I disconnected both brake light sensors in the
back. Fuse did not blow. Light did not come on and gear shifted out of park
fine. Then I reconnected the right brake sensor fuse did not blow, Light
did not come on and gear shifted out of park fine. Then I reconnected the
left sensor, the fuse blows, light came on and will not leave park. Bad
socket(s), wires, and/or sensor on the left side wouldn't you think?

"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:3FBE9093.27A1B5CF@junkmail.com...
> The short answer is that tracking down a short is cam be a royal pain in
> the butt. In your case we know it is somewhere between the switch at the
> brake pedal and the brake lights in the back. I would start by removing
> all the brake light bulbs and see if the fuse still blows when you step
> on the brakes. Typically there are TWO brake light bulbs on each side
> plus the high mount one. Sometimes when bulbs fail they become dead
> shorts. If the fuse stays intact when you press on the brake with all
> bulbs removed, I would just replace with all new bulbs.
>
> Also check the wiring where it connects to the tail lights. See if the
> insulation is worn off so that bare copper can rub against the sheet
> metal or anything else that is grounded.
>
> Any time the wire harness passes through a hole in the sheet metal there
> is potential for problems. Checked for nicks in the insulation at such
> points.
>
> Lastly, if your car has the warning light for broken brake bulbs, that
> would be a place to check as well. I believe the control module for that
> feature is mounted somewhere in the trunk.
>
> Cracker Jacks wrote:
> >
> > I placed the fuse in and it remained intact until I press the brake,
then
> > the fuse blew. Short somewhere, trying to track it down. Whats the best
way
> > to locate a short?
> >
> > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:3FBD99C9.2F585C36@junkmail.com...
> > > > Yes odd isn't it? I am wondering if light was wired wrong. There
is a
> > fuse
> > > > in the engine compartment (20amp) that keeps blowing. The fuse is
> > labeled
> > > > Stop, Horn, (Seat belt retractors) Is the stop portion brake
system?
> > >
> > > I believe it is. With that fuse blown, the shift lock system won't
work
> > > either. Does the fuse blow at random, or only when you are stepping on
> > > the brakes?

 

ok heres an update. I tested the brake switch it's good. I removed all bulbs
in the back, fuse still blew. I disconnected both brake light sensors in the
back. Fuse did not blow. Light did not come on and gear shifted out of park
fine. Then I reconnected the right brake sensor fuse did not blow, Light
did not come on and gear shifted out of park fine. Then I reconnected the
left sensor, the fuse blows, light came on and will not leave park. Bad
socket(s), wires, and/or sensor on the left side wouldn't you think?

"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:3FBE9093.27A1B5CF@junkmail.com...
> The short answer is that tracking down a short is cam be a royal pain in
> the butt. In your case we know it is somewhere between the switch at the
> brake pedal and the brake lights in the back. I would start by removing
> all the brake light bulbs and see if the fuse still blows when you step
> on the brakes. Typically there are TWO brake light bulbs on each side
> plus the high mount one. Sometimes when bulbs fail they become dead
> shorts. If the fuse stays intact when you press on the brake with all
> bulbs removed, I would just replace with all new bulbs.
>
> Also check the wiring where it connects to the tail lights. See if the
> insulation is worn off so that bare copper can rub against the sheet
> metal or anything else that is grounded.
>
> Any time the wire harness passes through a hole in the sheet metal there
> is potential for problems. Checked for nicks in the insulation at such
> points.
>
> Lastly, if your car has the warning light for broken brake bulbs, that
> would be a place to check as well. I believe the control module for that
> feature is mounted somewhere in the trunk.
>
> Cracker Jacks wrote:
> >
> > I placed the fuse in and it remained intact until I press the brake,
then
> > the fuse blew. Short somewhere, trying to track it down. Whats the best
way
> > to locate a short?
> >
> > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:3FBD99C9.2F585C36@junkmail.com...
> > > > Yes odd isn't it? I am wondering if light was wired wrong. There
is a
> > fuse
> > > > in the engine compartment (20amp) that keeps blowing. The fuse is
> > labeled
> > > > Stop, Horn, (Seat belt retractors) Is the stop portion brake
system?
> > >
> > > I believe it is. With that fuse blown, the shift lock system won't
work
> > > either. Does the fuse blow at random, or only when you are stepping on
> > > the brakes?

 

ok heres an update. I tested the brake switch it's good. I removed all bulbs
in the back, fuse still blew. I disconnected both brake light sensors in the
back. Fuse did not blow. Light did not come on and gear shifted out of park
fine. Then I reconnected the right brake sensor fuse did not blow, Light
did not come on and gear shifted out of park fine. Then I reconnected the
left sensor, the fuse blows, light came on and will not leave park. Bad
socket(s), wires, and/or sensor on the left side wouldn't you think?

"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:3FBE9093.27A1B5CF@junkmail.com...
> The short answer is that tracking down a short is cam be a royal pain in
> the butt. In your case we know it is somewhere between the switch at the
> brake pedal and the brake lights in the back. I would start by removing
> all the brake light bulbs and see if the fuse still blows when you step
> on the brakes. Typically there are TWO brake light bulbs on each side
> plus the high mount one. Sometimes when bulbs fail they become dead
> shorts. If the fuse stays intact when you press on the brake with all
> bulbs removed, I would just replace with all new bulbs.
>
> Also check the wiring where it connects to the tail lights. See if the
> insulation is worn off so that bare copper can rub against the sheet
> metal or anything else that is grounded.
>
> Any time the wire harness passes through a hole in the sheet metal there
> is potential for problems. Checked for nicks in the insulation at such
> points.
>
> Lastly, if your car has the warning light for broken brake bulbs, that
> would be a place to check as well. I believe the control module for that
> feature is mounted somewhere in the trunk.
>
> Cracker Jacks wrote:
> >
> > I placed the fuse in and it remained intact until I press the brake,
then
> > the fuse blew. Short somewhere, trying to track it down. Whats the best
way
> > to locate a short?
> >
> > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:3FBD99C9.2F585C36@junkmail.com...
> > > > Yes odd isn't it? I am wondering if light was wired wrong. There
is a
> > fuse
> > > > in the engine compartment (20amp) that keeps blowing. The fuse is
> > labeled
> > > > Stop, Horn, (Seat belt retractors) Is the stop portion brake
system?
> > >
> > > I believe it is. With that fuse blown, the shift lock system won't
work
> > > either. Does the fuse blow at random, or only when you are stepping on
> > > the brakes?

 

ok heres an update. I tested the brake switch it's good. I removed all bulbs
in the back, fuse still blew. I disconnected both brake light sensors in the
back. Fuse did not blow. Light did not come on and gear shifted out of park
fine. Then I reconnected the right brake sensor fuse did not blow, Light
did not come on and gear shifted out of park fine. Then I reconnected the
left sensor, the fuse blows, light came on and will not leave park. Bad
socket(s), wires, and/or sensor on the left side wouldn't you think?

"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:3FBE9093.27A1B5CF@junkmail.com...
> The short answer is that tracking down a short is cam be a royal pain in
> the butt. In your case we know it is somewhere between the switch at the
> brake pedal and the brake lights in the back. I would start by removing
> all the brake light bulbs and see if the fuse still blows when you step
> on the brakes. Typically there are TWO brake light bulbs on each side
> plus the high mount one. Sometimes when bulbs fail they become dead
> shorts. If the fuse stays intact when you press on the brake with all
> bulbs removed, I would just replace with all new bulbs.
>
> Also check the wiring where it connects to the tail lights. See if the
> insulation is worn off so that bare copper can rub against the sheet
> metal or anything else that is grounded.
>
> Any time the wire harness passes through a hole in the sheet metal there
> is potential for problems. Checked for nicks in the insulation at such
> points.
>
> Lastly, if your car has the warning light for broken brake bulbs, that
> would be a place to check as well. I believe the control module for that
> feature is mounted somewhere in the trunk.
>
> Cracker Jacks wrote:
> >
> > I placed the fuse in and it remained intact until I press the brake,
then
> > the fuse blew. Short somewhere, trying to track it down. Whats the best
way
> > to locate a short?
> >
> > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:3FBD99C9.2F585C36@junkmail.com...
> > > > Yes odd isn't it? I am wondering if light was wired wrong. There
is a
> > fuse
> > > > in the engine compartment (20amp) that keeps blowing. The fuse is
> > labeled
> > > > Stop, Horn, (Seat belt retractors) Is the stop portion brake
system?
> > >
> > > I believe it is. With that fuse blown, the shift lock system won't
work
> > > either. Does the fuse blow at random, or only when you are stepping on
> > > the brakes?

 

Left sensor is good I placed it in the right sensor spot...fuse did not
blow.


"Cracker Jacks" <cjacks@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:jrxvb.2519$b91.1970@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
> ok heres an update. I tested the brake switch it's good. I removed all
bulbs
> in the back, fuse still blew. I disconnected both brake light sensors in
the
> back. Fuse did not blow. Light did not come on and gear shifted out of
park
> fine. Then I reconnected the right brake sensor fuse did not blow, Light
> did not come on and gear shifted out of park fine. Then I reconnected the
> left sensor, the fuse blows, light came on and will not leave park. Bad
> socket(s), wires, and/or sensor on the left side wouldn't you think?
>
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3FBE9093.27A1B5CF@junkmail.com...
> > The short answer is that tracking down a short is cam be a royal pain in
> > the butt. In your case we know it is somewhere between the switch at the
> > brake pedal and the brake lights in the back. I would start by removing
> > all the brake light bulbs and see if the fuse still blows when you step
> > on the brakes. Typically there are TWO brake light bulbs on each side
> > plus the high mount one. Sometimes when bulbs fail they become dead
> > shorts. If the fuse stays intact when you press on the brake with all
> > bulbs removed, I would just replace with all new bulbs.
> >
> > Also check the wiring where it connects to the tail lights. See if the
> > insulation is worn off so that bare copper can rub against the sheet
> > metal or anything else that is grounded.
> >
> > Any time the wire harness passes through a hole in the sheet metal there
> > is potential for problems. Checked for nicks in the insulation at such
> > points.
> >
> > Lastly, if your car has the warning light for broken brake bulbs, that
> > would be a place to check as well. I believe the control module for that
> > feature is mounted somewhere in the trunk.
> >
> > Cracker Jacks wrote:
> > >
> > > I placed the fuse in and it remained intact until I press the brake,
> then
> > > the fuse blew. Short somewhere, trying to track it down. Whats the
best
> way
> > > to locate a short?
> > >
> > > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3FBD99C9.2F585C36@junkmail.com...
> > > > > Yes odd isn't it? I am wondering if light was wired wrong. There
> is a
> > > fuse
> > > > > in the engine compartment (20amp) that keeps blowing. The fuse is
> > > labeled
> > > > > Stop, Horn, (Seat belt retractors) Is the stop portion brake
> system?
> > > >
> > > > I believe it is. With that fuse blown, the shift lock system won't
> work
> > > > either. Does the fuse blow at random, or only when you are stepping
on
> > > > the brakes?
>
>