Re: 2008 minivans: Honda Odyssey vs Toyota Sienna
 

In article <pan.2008.07.19.01.18.51.979373@moria2.lan>,
Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:13:44 -0500, dbu wrote:
>
> >> > Over 40, does that tell me you are 41, but less than 50? That means you
> >> > were 8 or 10 years old when we had the great Jimmy Carter gas shortage
> >> > with long lines. Do you remember? Most likely not.
>
> >> Yes, over 40 and under 50. I vaguely remember the long gas lines, but
> >> whatever... not relevant.
>
> > Why do you say it is not relevant?
>
> Because it isn't relevant. What the do gas prices or long lines from
> 30+ years ago have to do with your claim that premium sells for one penny
> more than regular???
>
> >> Where do you live, that thinks 89 is "super", and don't have 91/93?
>
> > I live in the great NorthWest.
>
> > Here, 87 = regular, 89 = premium, or super as this station calls it.
> > One penny difference.
>
> I don't believe that, nor does anyone else. You're making an outrageous,
> unsubstantiated claim, and when asked to provide some proof, you are
> unable or unwilling to do so. That makes you a bullshitter, and I (among
> others) don't buy your story.
>
> > I checked for a photo, but it's not possible. I also considered posting
> > their phone number, but after five seconds of thought I round filed that
> > idea. You will just have to trust me which you won't, but again I don't
> > care.
>
> A photo certainly is possible, but you don't want to do that as it will
> blow your claim out of the water. You're a lying bullshitter, and have
> been called on it. Run along, boy.

I'd love to make you look like a cussing fool and I could, but it would
subject the station to crank callers. A picture is not possible as they
don't have both prices posted on the large sign. The pump shows the two
prices, but because of a light filter makes taking a photo impossible.

Let's face the facts Dan, you don't know what you are talking about.
You haven't been around much.
--

Re: 2008 minivans: Honda Odyssey vs Toyota Sienna
 

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:18:25 -0500, dbu <nospam@nospam.moc>
wrote:

>
>I'd love to make you look like a cussing fool and I could, but it would
>subject the station to crank callers.

Howdy,

Why not send the phone number to just one person?

Surely the station would not be inconveniences by a single
call.

All the best,
--
Kenneth

If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

Re: 2008 minivans: Honda Odyssey vs Toyota Sienna
 

On Jul 19, 8:05 am, dbu <nos...@nospam.moc> wrote:
> In article
> <171ae5b1-3ea1-449f-9085-50a9501d0...@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, dbu <nos...@nospam.moc> wrote:
> > > In article <pan.2008.07.18.23.54.32.763...@moria2.lan>,
> > > Dan C <youmustbejok...@lan.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > > On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:41:13 -0500, dbu wrote:
>
> > > > >> >> Go to this site below, upload your image as directed (very easy),
> > > > >> >> and
> > > > >> >> it
> > > > >> >> will provide you a link/URL that you can paste into a post here.
> > > > >> >> Simple.
>
> > > > >> >>http://imageshack.us/
>
> > > > >> > The price today is $3.96.9 for regular, (87) and $3.97.9 for super
> > > > >> > (89)
> > > > >> > per U.S. gal. They have no price signs posted only at the pump.
> > > > >> > So
> > > > >> > there ya go Dan.
>
> > > > >> First of all, 89 octane is not "super". It's "mid-grade".
> > > > >> Super/Premium
> > > > >> is at least 91 octane, oftentimes 93.
>
> > > > >> As for "there ya go...", actually you are proving my point. Agas
> > > > >> station
> > > > >> with no signs, huh? How often do you (or anyone) see that??? I have
> > > > >> *NEVER* seen it, and it just reinforces the idea that you're
> > > > >> bullshitting
> > > > >> us. Gas stations have signs showing their prices, period.
>
> > > > >> The fact that you won't post a pic to the website I indicated above
> > > > >> proves
> > > > >> that you're not being honest. It's no harder to upload a picture to
> > > > >> there
> > > > >> than it is to email it to me (which you were apparently willing to
> > > > >> do).
> > > > >> Take a picture of the friggin pump if you have to, showing the prices
> > > > >> for
> > > > >> all three grades. All pumps show that too, before you claim
> > > > >> otherwise.
>
> > > > >> Your move, big boy.
>
> > > > >> > BTW how old are you and what part of the country do you live in?
>
> > > > >> I'm over 40, and I live in the SE part of the country. Why?
>
> > > > > Over 40, does that tell me you are 41, but less than 50? That means
> > > > > you
> > > > > were 8 or 10 years old when we had the great Jimmy Carter gas shortage
> > > > > with long lines. Do you remember? Most likely not.
>
> > > > Yes, over 40 and under 50. I vaguely remember the long gas lines, but
> > > > whatever... not relevant.
>
> > > Why do you say it is not relevant?
>
> > > > > 89 is called super. We have strict regulations here so do not worry,
> > > > > it's not scam. 87 is regular and 89 is called premium or "super". I
> > > > > don't know of gas stations here that offer 91 or, wow, 93!!
>
> > > > Interesting that you don't address the rest of my post, regarding posting
> > > > the pic for others to view. How come?
>
> > > > Where do you live, that thinks 89 is "super", and don't have 91/93?
>
> > > I live in the great NorthWest.
>
> > > Here, 87 = regular, 89 = premium, or super as this station calls it.
> > > One penny difference.
>
> >http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petro...ons/wrgp/gasol...
> > s.html
>
> > Definitions of Gasoline Grades
> > The classification of gasoline by octane ratings. Each type of
> > gasoline (conventional, oxygenated, and reformulated) is classified by
> > three grades - Regular, Midgrade, and Premium. Note: Gasoline sales
> > are reported by grade in accordance with their classification at the
> > time of sale. In general, automotive octane requirements are lower at
> > high altitudes. Therefore, in some areas of the United States, such as
> > the Rocky Mountain States, the octane ratings for the gasoline grades
> > may be 2 or more octane points lower.
>
> > Regular Gasoline: Gasoline having an antiknock index, i.e., octane
> > rating, greater than or equal to 85 and less than 88. Note: Octane
> > requirements may vary by altitude.
>
> > Midgrade Gasoline: Gasoline having an antiknock index, i.e., octane
> > rating, greater than or equal to 88 and less than or equal to 90..
> > Note: Octane requirements may vary by altitude.
>
> > Premium Gasoline: Gasoline having an antiknock index, i.e., octane
> > rating, greater than 90. Note: Octane requirements may vary by
> > altitude.
>
> That's nice.
>
> Note: The station I go to has TWO grades, please pay attention,
>
> Regular 87 octane
>
> Super 89 octane, one cent per gallon more than regular.
>
> There may be 91 octane at some other station in the area, but I've not
> seen it. There is one station that offers non-oxygenated premium fuel
> for lawn mowers, snowblowers etc. By state law it is forbidden to use
> non-oxygenated fuel in vehicles other than old classic or antique
> collectable cars which display an antique license plate.


Comments from a web search:

"In my part of Wisconsin the standard is to price regular and mid
grade at the same price and premium 20 cents over that."

"Hell, I sometimes see mid grade cheaper than regular because of the
ethanol"

Re: 2008 minivans: Honda Odyssey vs Toyota Sienna
 

In article
<0f30d493-cfb0-4ca3-914c-bab8d0390d18@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
Siskuwihane <Siskuwihane1@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 19, 8:05 am, dbu <nos...@nospam.moc> wrote:
> > In article
> > <171ae5b1-3ea1-449f-9085-50a9501d0...@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, dbu <nos...@nospam.moc> wrote:
> > > > In article <pan.2008.07.18.23.54.32.763...@moria2.lan>,
> > > > Dan C <youmustbejok...@lan.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > > > On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:41:13 -0500, dbu wrote:
> >
> > > > > >> >> Go to this site below, upload your image as directed (very
> > > > > >> >> easy),
> > > > > >> >> and
> > > > > >> >> it
> > > > > >> >> will provide you a link/URL that you can paste into a post
> > > > > >> >> here.
> > > > > >> >> Simple.
> >
> > > > > >> >>http://imageshack.us/
> >
> > > > > >> > The price today is $3.96.9 for regular, (87) and $3.97.9 for
> > > > > >> > super
> > > > > >> > (89)
> > > > > >> > per U.S. gal. They have no price signs posted only at the pump.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > So
> > > > > >> > there ya go Dan.
> >
> > > > > >> First of all, 89 octane is not "super". It's "mid-grade".
> > > > > >> Super/Premium
> > > > > >> is at least 91 octane, oftentimes 93.
> >
> > > > > >> As for "there ya go...", actually you are proving my point. A gas
> > > > > >> station
> > > > > >> with no signs, huh? How often do you (or anyone) see that??? I
> > > > > >> have
> > > > > >> *NEVER* seen it, and it just reinforces the idea that you're
> > > > > >> bullshitting
> > > > > >> us. Gas stations have signs showing their prices, period.
> >
> > > > > >> The fact that you won't post a pic to the website I indicated
> > > > > >> above
> > > > > >> proves
> > > > > >> that you're not being honest. It's no harder to upload a picture
> > > > > >> to
> > > > > >> there
> > > > > >> than it is to email it to me (which you were apparently willing to
> > > > > >> do).
> > > > > >> Take a picture of the friggin pump if you have to, showing the
> > > > > >> prices
> > > > > >> for
> > > > > >> all three grades. All pumps show that too, before you claim
> > > > > >> otherwise.
> >
> > > > > >> Your move, big boy.
> >
> > > > > >> > BTW how old are you and what part of the country do you live in?
> >
> > > > > >> I'm over 40, and I live in the SE part of the country. Why?
> >
> > > > > > Over 40, does that tell me you are 41, but less than 50? That
> > > > > > means
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > were 8 or 10 years old when we had the great Jimmy Carter gas
> > > > > > shortage
> > > > > > with long lines. Do you remember? Most likely not.
> >
> > > > > Yes, over 40 and under 50. I vaguely remember the long gas lines,
> > > > > but
> > > > > whatever... not relevant.
> >
> > > > Why do you say it is not relevant?
> >
> > > > > > 89 is called super. We have strict regulations here so do not
> > > > > > worry,
> > > > > > it's not scam. 87 is regular and 89 is called premium or "super".
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > don't know of gas stations here that offer 91 or, wow, 93!!
> >
> > > > > Interesting that you don't address the rest of my post, regarding
> > > > > posting
> > > > > the pic for others to view. How come?
> >
> > > > > Where do you live, that thinks 89 is "super", and don't have 91/93?
> >
> > > > I live in the great NorthWest.
> >
> > > > Here, 87 = regular, 89 = premium, or super as this station calls it.
> > > > One penny difference.
> >
> > >http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petro...ons/wrgp/gasol...
> > > s.html
> >
> > > Definitions of Gasoline Grades
> > > The classification of gasoline by octane ratings. Each type of
> > > gasoline (conventional, oxygenated, and reformulated) is classified by
> > > three grades - Regular, Midgrade, and Premium. Note: Gasoline sales
> > > are reported by grade in accordance with their classification at the
> > > time of sale. In general, automotive octane requirements are lower at
> > > high altitudes. Therefore, in some areas of the United States, such as
> > > the Rocky Mountain States, the octane ratings for the gasoline grades
> > > may be 2 or more octane points lower.
> >
> > > Regular Gasoline: Gasoline having an antiknock index, i.e., octane
> > > rating, greater than or equal to 85 and less than 88. Note: Octane
> > > requirements may vary by altitude.
> >
> > > Midgrade Gasoline: Gasoline having an antiknock index, i.e., octane
> > > rating, greater than or equal to 88 and less than or equal to 90.
> > > Note: Octane requirements may vary by altitude.
> >
> > > Premium Gasoline: Gasoline having an antiknock index, i.e., octane
> > > rating, greater than 90. Note: Octane requirements may vary by
> > > altitude.
> >
> > That's nice.
> >
> > Note: The station I go to has TWO grades, please pay attention,
> >
> > Regular 87 octane
> >
> > Super 89 octane, one cent per gallon more than regular.
> >
> > There may be 91 octane at some other station in the area, but I've not
> > seen it. There is one station that offers non-oxygenated premium fuel
> > for lawn mowers, snowblowers etc. By state law it is forbidden to use
> > non-oxygenated fuel in vehicles other than old classic or antique
> > collectable cars which display an antique license plate.
>
>
> Comments from a web search:
>
> "In my part of Wisconsin the standard is to price regular and mid
> grade at the same price and premium 20 cents over that."
>
> "Hell, I sometimes see mid grade cheaper than regular because of the
> ethanol"

You might just be on to something there bud. Maybe we can put this to
rest.

But, I'll say this again, what I stated is the truth. What's his name
refuses to accept the truth because in his small world he's never seen
it and automatically thinks nether should anyone else have seen it.
That is a narrow minded individual.
--

Re: 2008 minivans: Honda Odyssey vs Toyota Sienna
 

"Dan C" <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote in message
news:pan.2008.07.19.01.18.51.979373@moria2.lan...
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:13:44 -0500, dbu wrote:
>
>>> > Over 40, does that tell me you are 41, but less than 50? That means
>>> > you
>>> > were 8 or 10 years old when we had the great Jimmy Carter gas shortage
>>> > with long lines. Do you remember? Most likely not.
>
>>> Yes, over 40 and under 50. I vaguely remember the long gas lines, but
>>> whatever... not relevant.
>
>> Why do you say it is not relevant?
>
> Because it isn't relevant. What the do gas prices or long lines from
> 30+ years ago have to do with your claim that premium sells for one penny
> more than regular???
>
>>> Where do you live, that thinks 89 is "super", and don't have 91/93?
>
>> I live in the great NorthWest.
>
>> Here, 87 = regular, 89 = premium, or super as this station calls it.
>> One penny difference.
>
> I don't believe that, nor does anyone else. You're making an outrageous,
> unsubstantiated claim, and when asked to provide some proof, you are
> unable or unwilling to do so. That makes you a bullshitter, and I (among
> others) don't buy your story.
>
>> I checked for a photo, but it's not possible. I also considered posting
>> their phone number, but after five seconds of thought I round filed that
>> idea. You will just have to trust me which you won't, but again I don't
>> care.
>
> A photo certainly is possible, but you don't want to do that as it will
> blow your claim out of the water. You're a lying bullshitter, and have
> been called on it. Run along, boy.
>

Bingo! I know dbu well from the alt.autos.toyota group. I see you are
getting to know him well too! heh heh!

Re: 2008 minivans: Honda Odyssey vs Toyota Sienna
 

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:18:25 -0500, dbu wrote:

>> A photo certainly is possible, but you don't want to do that as it will
>> blow your claim out of the water. You're a lying bullshitter, and have
>> been called on it. Run along, boy.

> I'd love to make you look like a cussing fool and I could, but it would
> subject the station to crank callers. A picture is not possible as they
> don't have both prices posted on the large sign. The pump shows the two
> prices, but because of a light filter makes taking a photo impossible.

Why would they NOT have both prices posted on the large sign?

There's a "light filter" on the pump, eh? What is that, some kind of
magical device that doesn't let any light get onto the price display?
They do that specifically to keep people from taking photos, probably?

What the are you talking about? Take a photo of the pump prices, and
post it as requested, or prove to all that you are a lying bullshitter.
Your excuses don't hold water.

> Let's face the facts Dan, you don't know what you are talking about.
> You haven't been around much.

Well, as a matter of fact, I lived in the Seattle area (Silverdale) for
about 6 years, less than 10 years ago. I don't remember any such oddities
with gas prices or pumps with "light filters" on them. You have lied your
way into a corner, and the only way out is for you to provide some proof
with a picture of your claims.


--
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The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org

Re: 2008 minivans: Honda Odyssey vs Toyota Sienna
 

On 2008-07-19, dbu <nospam@nospam.moc> wrote:
> In article <slrng82kaj.cge.joe@barada.griffincs.local>,
> Joe <joe@nospam.hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>
>> ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.autos.honda.]
>> >
>> > Not when it's slippery.
>>
>> Huh?
>>
>> If it's too slippery out to use cruise control on the highway, it is
>> too slippery to be going 65 MPH.
>
> Who said anything about going 65 when it's slippery out?

You did. Read your posts.


--
Joe - Linux User #449481/Ubuntu User #19733
joe at hits - buffalo dot com
"Hate is baggage, life is too short to go around pissed off all the
time..." - Danny, American History X

Re: 2008 minivans: Honda Odyssey vs Toyota Sienna
 

On 2008-07-19, dbu <nospam@nospam.moc> wrote:
> In article <pan.2008.07.19.01.18.51.979373@moria2.lan>,
> Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:13:44 -0500, dbu wrote:
>>
>> >> > Over 40, does that tell me you are 41, but less than 50? That means you
>> >> > were 8 or 10 years old when we had the great Jimmy Carter gas shortage
>> >> > with long lines. Do you remember? Most likely not.
>>
>> >> Yes, over 40 and under 50. I vaguely remember the long gas lines, but
>> >> whatever... not relevant.
>>
>> > Why do you say it is not relevant?
>>
>> Because it isn't relevant. What the do gas prices or long lines from
>> 30+ years ago have to do with your claim that premium sells for one penny
>> more than regular???
>>
>> >> Where do you live, that thinks 89 is "super", and don't have 91/93?
>>
>> > I live in the great NorthWest.
>>
>> > Here, 87 = regular, 89 = premium, or super as this station calls it.
>> > One penny difference.
>>
>> I don't believe that, nor does anyone else. You're making an outrageous,
>> unsubstantiated claim, and when asked to provide some proof, you are
>> unable or unwilling to do so. That makes you a bullshitter, and I (among
>> others) don't buy your story.
>>
>> > I checked for a photo, but it's not possible. I also considered posting
>> > their phone number, but after five seconds of thought I round filed that
>> > idea. You will just have to trust me which you won't, but again I don't
>> > care.
>>
>> A photo certainly is possible, but you don't want to do that as it will
>> blow your claim out of the water. You're a lying bullshitter, and have
>> been called on it. Run along, boy.
>
> I'd love to make you look like a cussing fool and I could, but it would
> subject the station to crank callers. A picture is not possible as they
> don't have both prices posted on the large sign. The pump shows the two
> prices, but because of a light filter makes taking a photo impossible.

Ahh, well THAT settles it. You're a liar and/or a fool...

>
> Let's face the facts Dan, you don't know what you are talking about.
> You haven't been around much.

LOL.


--
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joe at hits - buffalo dot com
"Hate is baggage, life is too short to go around pissed off all the
time..." - Danny, American History X

Re: 2008 minivans: Honda Odyssey vs Toyota Sienna
 

In article <pan.2008.07.19.18.18.40.992323@moria2.lan>,
Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote:

> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:18:25 -0500, dbu wrote:
>
> >> A photo certainly is possible, but you don't want to do that as it will
> >> blow your claim out of the water. You're a lying bullshitter, and have
> >> been called on it. Run along, boy.
>
> > I'd love to make you look like a cussing fool and I could, but it would
> > subject the station to crank callers. A picture is not possible as they
> > don't have both prices posted on the large sign. The pump shows the two
> > prices, but because of a light filter makes taking a photo impossible.
>
> Why would they NOT have both prices posted on the large sign?
>
> There's a "light filter" on the pump, eh? What is that, some kind of
> magical device that doesn't let any light get onto the price display?
> They do that specifically to keep people from taking photos, probably?
>
> What the are you talking about? Take a photo of the pump prices, and
> post it as requested, or prove to all that you are a lying bullshitter.
> Your excuses don't hold water.
>
> > Let's face the facts Dan, you don't know what you are talking about.
> > You haven't been around much.
>
> Well, as a matter of fact, I lived in the Seattle area (Silverdale) for
> about 6 years, less than 10 years ago. I don't remember any such oddities
> with gas prices or pumps with "light filters" on them. You have lied your
> way into a corner, and the only way out is for you to provide some proof
> with a picture of your claims.

Why don't you post your email and I'll send you their phone number to
put this to rest. I don't live anywhere near Seattle. Again your lack
of experience shows.
--

Re: 2008 minivans: Honda Odyssey vs Toyota Sienna
 

In article <Qrpgk.263356$6i4.73403@en-nntp-03.dc1.easynews.com>,
"Truckdude" <shrub@thedeecider.com> wrote:

> "Dan C" <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote in message
> news:pan.2008.07.19.01.18.51.979373@moria2.lan...
> > On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:13:44 -0500, dbu wrote:
> >
> >>> > Over 40, does that tell me you are 41, but less than 50? That means
> >>> > you
> >>> > were 8 or 10 years old when we had the great Jimmy Carter gas shortage
> >>> > with long lines. Do you remember? Most likely not.
> >
> >>> Yes, over 40 and under 50. I vaguely remember the long gas lines, but
> >>> whatever... not relevant.
> >
> >> Why do you say it is not relevant?
> >
> > Because it isn't relevant. What the do gas prices or long lines from
> > 30+ years ago have to do with your claim that premium sells for one penny
> > more than regular???
> >
> >>> Where do you live, that thinks 89 is "super", and don't have 91/93?
> >
> >> I live in the great NorthWest.
> >
> >> Here, 87 = regular, 89 = premium, or super as this station calls it.
> >> One penny difference.
> >
> > I don't believe that, nor does anyone else. You're making an outrageous,
> > unsubstantiated claim, and when asked to provide some proof, you are
> > unable or unwilling to do so. That makes you a bullshitter, and I (among
> > others) don't buy your story.
> >
> >> I checked for a photo, but it's not possible. I also considered posting
> >> their phone number, but after five seconds of thought I round filed that
> >> idea. You will just have to trust me which you won't, but again I don't
> >> care.
> >
> > A photo certainly is possible, but you don't want to do that as it will
> > blow your claim out of the water. You're a lying bullshitter, and have
> > been called on it. Run along, boy.
> >
>
> Bingo! I know dbu well from the alt.autos.toyota group. I see you are
> getting to know him well too! heh heh!

Why don't you convince this young lad to post his email so that I can
send him the phone number of the station that sells regular and super at
only one penny difference. I can't make a photo for reasons stated
before. I'd love to see the look on this cussing fools face when he
finds out I tell truth.
--

Re: 2008 minivans: Honda Odyssey vs Toyota Sienna
 

dbu, 7/19/2008,4:41:44 PM, wrote:

> I'd love to see the look on this cussing fools face when he
> finds out I tell truth.

dbu, I think this all stems from the use of the word "super" to
describe midgrade gasoline. Most of us use "super" when referring to
the highest grade however it is probably more correct to call it
"premium" and I am guessing that is what you know 91-93 octane gasoline
as. I can believe you have a station that would charge a penney more
for 89 octane gas, especially if it is an independent station where it
receives its supply from a local refiner. You don't have to defend
yourself or prove anything since it is obvious they won't believe you
even if you did post a picture. They will accuse you of doctoring it
or having the owner change the prices just for your picture.

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Re: 2008 minivans: Honda Odyssey vs Toyota Sienna
 

In article <xn0fsvcf8e8z2mw000@news.mixmin.net>,
"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

> dbu, 7/19/2008,4:41:44 PM, wrote:
>
> > I'd love to see the look on this cussing fools face when he
> > finds out I tell truth.
>
> dbu, I think this all stems from the use of the word "super" to
> describe midgrade gasoline. Most of us use "super" when referring to
> the highest grade however it is probably more correct to call it
> "premium" and I am guessing that is what you know 91-93 octane gasoline
> as. I can believe you have a station that would charge a penney more
> for 89 octane gas, especially if it is an independent station where it
> receives its supply from a local refiner. You don't have to defend
> yourself or prove anything since it is obvious they won't believe you
> even if you did post a picture. They will accuse you of doctoring it
> or having the owner change the prices just for your picture.

Sure, I agree. Where the problem lies is their inability to read and
decipher what I said. That is not my problem. I posted the octane
numbers, but it seemed to be ignored. The station called it "super" and
"regular", 89 and 87 respectively, one penny difference. It is an
independent supplier. I don't know of any station in this area that
sells 93 octane gas, one I know of that sells 91 octane, but that is
non-oxygenated fuel for use in lawnmowers and the like and illegal to
use in cars and trucks unless they are licensed antique, per state law.

Thanks for the help, but I don't think it will convince these narrow
minded knot heads.
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Re: 2008 minivans: Honda Odyssey vs Toyota Sienna
 

On 2008-07-19, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> dbu, 7/19/2008,4:41:44 PM, wrote:
>
>> I'd love to see the look on this cussing fools face when he
>> finds out I tell truth.
>
> dbu, I think this all stems from the use of the word "super" to
> describe midgrade gasoline. Most of us use "super" when referring to
> the highest grade however it is probably more correct to call it
> "premium" and I am guessing that is what you know 91-93 octane gasoline
> as. I can believe you have a station that would charge a penney more
> for 89 octane gas, especially if it is an independent station where it
> receives its supply from a local refiner. You don't have to defend
> yourself or prove anything since it is obvious they won't believe you
> even if you did post a picture. They will accuse you of doctoring it
> or having the owner change the prices just for your picture.
>

Actually, that's my main problem with his "story". I can't imagine a
region ANYWHERE that doesn't have 91/93 octane fuel, as dbu states.
That would mean that people like me can't drive there, as the fuel
isn't high enough octane for my car...


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Re: 2008 minivans: Honda Odyssey vs Toyota Sienna
 

In article <slrng854vb.c5q.joe@barada.griffincs.local>,
Joe <joe@nospam.hits-buffalo.com> wrote:

> On 2008-07-19, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> > dbu, 7/19/2008,4:41:44 PM, wrote:
> >
> >> I'd love to see the look on this cussing fools face when he
> >> finds out I tell truth.
> >
> > dbu, I think this all stems from the use of the word "super" to
> > describe midgrade gasoline. Most of us use "super" when referring to
> > the highest grade however it is probably more correct to call it
> > "premium" and I am guessing that is what you know 91-93 octane gasoline
> > as. I can believe you have a station that would charge a penney more
> > for 89 octane gas, especially if it is an independent station where it
> > receives its supply from a local refiner. You don't have to defend
> > yourself or prove anything since it is obvious they won't believe you
> > even if you did post a picture. They will accuse you of doctoring it
> > or having the owner change the prices just for your picture.
> >
>
> Actually, that's my main problem with his "story". I can't imagine a
> region ANYWHERE that doesn't have 91/93 octane fuel, as dbu states.
> That would mean that people like me can't drive there, as the fuel
> isn't high enough octane for my car...

I'm not saying there is none, I'm saying that I have not seen any except
for the non-oxygenated premium fuel for lawn mowers etc and classic
cars. You would have to look and plan ahead I guess.

What kind of car do you drive that requires such a high octane, Piper or
Cessina maybe? I don't think you'll have any problem finding av-gas at
110 octane.
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Re: 2008 minivans: Honda Odyssey vs Toyota Sienna
 

Joe, 7/19/2008,9:22:46 PM, wrote:

> On 2008-07-19, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> > dbu, 7/19/2008,4:41:44 PM, wrote:
> >
> >> I'd love to see the look on this cussing fools face when he
> >> finds out I tell truth.
> >
> > dbu, I think this all stems from the use of the word "super" to
> > describe midgrade gasoline. Most of us use "super" when referring
> > to the highest grade however it is probably more correct to call it
> > "premium" and I am guessing that is what you know 91-93 octane
> > gasoline as. I can believe you have a station that would charge a
> > penney more for 89 octane gas, especially if it is an independent
> > station where it receives its supply from a local refiner. You
> > don't have to defend yourself or prove anything since it is obvious
> > they won't believe you even if you did post a picture. They will
> > accuse you of doctoring it or having the owner change the prices
> > just for your picture.
> >
>
> Actually, that's my main problem with his "story". I can't imagine a
> region ANYWHERE that doesn't have 91/93 octane fuel, as dbu states.
> That would mean that people like me can't drive there, as the fuel
> isn't high enough octane for my car...

It is possible a small town in the boondocks with low population to not
have what the rest of us have become accustomed to. I live in SE
Virginia and when travelling across the state I see many small towns
with gas stations I do not recognize. Merchants tend to stock what
their clientele use. For those of us who are used to tons of choices
life in a small town can be quite an adjustment.