Wow I have never had any problems with my 2004...I've driven a 200-mile
trip with about a 2500 lb. trailer, probably close to 500 lbs. of
equipment in the back, and five people...it barely strained the engine
and my height looks perfectly normal. Perhaps you have some sort of a
defect in the rear?

 

On 9 Oct 2006 13:35:11 -0700, "Robert" <kraft.fhs@gmail.com> wrote:

>Wow I have never had any problems with my 2004...I've driven a 200-mile
>trip with about a 2500 lb. trailer, probably close to 500 lbs. of
>equipment in the back, and five people...it barely strained the engine
>and my height looks perfectly normal. Perhaps you have some sort of a
>defect in the rear?

Sounds like a broken spring. Is the ride height level left to right?
Certainly 300 pounds wouldn't cause this problem even if you left it
in there forever.

 

On 9 Oct 2006 13:35:11 -0700, "Robert" <kraft.fhs@gmail.com> wrote:

>Wow I have never had any problems with my 2004...I've driven a 200-mile
>trip with about a 2500 lb. trailer, probably close to 500 lbs. of
>equipment in the back, and five people...it barely strained the engine
>and my height looks perfectly normal. Perhaps you have some sort of a
>defect in the rear?

Sounds like a broken spring. Is the ride height level left to right?
Certainly 300 pounds wouldn't cause this problem even if you left it
in there forever.

 

On 9 Oct 2006 13:35:11 -0700, "Robert" <kraft.fhs@gmail.com> wrote:

>Wow I have never had any problems with my 2004...I've driven a 200-mile
>trip with about a 2500 lb. trailer, probably close to 500 lbs. of
>equipment in the back, and five people...it barely strained the engine
>and my height looks perfectly normal. Perhaps you have some sort of a
>defect in the rear?

Sounds like a broken spring. Is the ride height level left to right?
Certainly 300 pounds wouldn't cause this problem even if you left it
in there forever.

 

I had it checked out at the dealership. They inspected it and did not
find any broken springs. They did ask about the load that I put on it.
They called Honda Canada. I was informed that in reality all Pilots
will eventually drop in height under its own weight. What I've done has
accelerated the rear rate of collapse. The front should crush the
springs under its own weight eventually. The front end is the heavier
part of the vehicle so it'll eventually end up being lower than the
rear, provided that I never load the rear again ofcourse. Honda canada
did file my concern, because when the warranty nears an end, and if the
car is not level, I'll be knocking on their door again. I believe that
this vehicle got a little weaker springs in the rear than most of other
Pilots. It is probably due to the inconsistency of the spring
manufacturer/supplier etc. - bad material - poor quality control, Honda
is not imune to things like that sometimes. Maybe in the future they
should take some pointers from GM and raise the back a bit like Yukon.

Dan.
Gordon McGrew wrote:
> On 9 Oct 2006 13:35:11 -0700, "Robert" <kraft.fhs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Wow I have never had any problems with my 2004...I've driven a 200-mile
> >trip with about a 2500 lb. trailer, probably close to 500 lbs. of
> >equipment in the back, and five people...it barely strained the engine
> >and my height looks perfectly normal. Perhaps you have some sort of a
> >defect in the rear?
>
> Sounds like a broken spring. Is the ride height level left to right?
> Certainly 300 pounds wouldn't cause this problem even if you left it
> in there forever.

 

I had it checked out at the dealership. They inspected it and did not
find any broken springs. They did ask about the load that I put on it.
They called Honda Canada. I was informed that in reality all Pilots
will eventually drop in height under its own weight. What I've done has
accelerated the rear rate of collapse. The front should crush the
springs under its own weight eventually. The front end is the heavier
part of the vehicle so it'll eventually end up being lower than the
rear, provided that I never load the rear again ofcourse. Honda canada
did file my concern, because when the warranty nears an end, and if the
car is not level, I'll be knocking on their door again. I believe that
this vehicle got a little weaker springs in the rear than most of other
Pilots. It is probably due to the inconsistency of the spring
manufacturer/supplier etc. - bad material - poor quality control, Honda
is not imune to things like that sometimes. Maybe in the future they
should take some pointers from GM and raise the back a bit like Yukon.

Dan.
Gordon McGrew wrote:
> On 9 Oct 2006 13:35:11 -0700, "Robert" <kraft.fhs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Wow I have never had any problems with my 2004...I've driven a 200-mile
> >trip with about a 2500 lb. trailer, probably close to 500 lbs. of
> >equipment in the back, and five people...it barely strained the engine
> >and my height looks perfectly normal. Perhaps you have some sort of a
> >defect in the rear?
>
> Sounds like a broken spring. Is the ride height level left to right?
> Certainly 300 pounds wouldn't cause this problem even if you left it
> in there forever.

 

I had it checked out at the dealership. They inspected it and did not
find any broken springs. They did ask about the load that I put on it.
They called Honda Canada. I was informed that in reality all Pilots
will eventually drop in height under its own weight. What I've done has
accelerated the rear rate of collapse. The front should crush the
springs under its own weight eventually. The front end is the heavier
part of the vehicle so it'll eventually end up being lower than the
rear, provided that I never load the rear again ofcourse. Honda canada
did file my concern, because when the warranty nears an end, and if the
car is not level, I'll be knocking on their door again. I believe that
this vehicle got a little weaker springs in the rear than most of other
Pilots. It is probably due to the inconsistency of the spring
manufacturer/supplier etc. - bad material - poor quality control, Honda
is not imune to things like that sometimes. Maybe in the future they
should take some pointers from GM and raise the back a bit like Yukon.

Dan.
Gordon McGrew wrote:
> On 9 Oct 2006 13:35:11 -0700, "Robert" <kraft.fhs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Wow I have never had any problems with my 2004...I've driven a 200-mile
> >trip with about a 2500 lb. trailer, probably close to 500 lbs. of
> >equipment in the back, and five people...it barely strained the engine
> >and my height looks perfectly normal. Perhaps you have some sort of a
> >defect in the rear?
>
> Sounds like a broken spring. Is the ride height level left to right?
> Certainly 300 pounds wouldn't cause this problem even if you left it
> in there forever.

 

Perhaps this is a Canadian thing? Like I said in my previous post, I
have put much more weight on my 2004 Pilot, and it is still perfectly
normal. I went and measured my height from the B-pillar and compared it
with my neighbor's one-week-old 2006...they are both within 1/8 of an
inch of each other...

 

Perhaps this is a Canadian thing? Like I said in my previous post, I
have put much more weight on my 2004 Pilot, and it is still perfectly
normal. I went and measured my height from the B-pillar and compared it
with my neighbor's one-week-old 2006...they are both within 1/8 of an
inch of each other...

 

Perhaps this is a Canadian thing? Like I said in my previous post, I
have put much more weight on my 2004 Pilot, and it is still perfectly
normal. I went and measured my height from the B-pillar and compared it
with my neighbor's one-week-old 2006...they are both within 1/8 of an
inch of each other...

 

On 10 Oct 2006 12:46:13 -0700, "highkm" <ic3po@mac.com> wrote:

>I had it checked out at the dealership. They inspected it and did not
>find any broken springs.

They need to check it again. Or you may want to take it to another
dealer or an independent mechanic. They need to look carefully at the
top of the coil.

> They did ask about the load that I put on it.
>They called Honda Canada. I was informed that in reality all Pilots
>will eventually drop in height under its own weight.

This is true of all cars. However, the drop in height is slight and
occurs over a long period.

> What I've done has
>accelerated the rear rate of collapse. The front should crush the
>springs under its own weight eventually.

If the drop is so great as to be noticeable, then it is not right.
Either there was a lot more weight than you think or something was
drastically defective.

>The front end is the heavier
>part of the vehicle so it'll eventually end up being lower than the
>rear, provided that I never load the rear again ofcourse.

Well, that is BS. If this was a design problem, then we would be
seeing all kinds of reports and we haven't. If it is a sample defect,
then it needs to be fixed under warranty. "Never load the rear again"
is not a satisfactory fix.

> Honda canada
>did file my concern, because when the warranty nears an end, and if the
>car is not level, I'll be knocking on their door again. I believe that
>this vehicle got a little weaker springs in the rear than most of other
>Pilots. It is probably due to the inconsistency of the spring
>manufacturer/supplier etc. - bad material - poor quality control, Honda
>is not imune to things like that sometimes.

If this is true then they should fix it under warranty.

>Maybe in the future they
>should take some pointers from GM and raise the back a bit like Yukon.

LOL. The last think Honda needs to do is take pointers from GM.





>Gordon McGrew wrote:
>> On 9 Oct 2006 13:35:11 -0700, "Robert" <kraft.fhs@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Wow I have never had any problems with my 2004...I've driven a 200-mile
>> >trip with about a 2500 lb. trailer, probably close to 500 lbs. of
>> >equipment in the back, and five people...it barely strained the engine
>> >and my height looks perfectly normal. Perhaps you have some sort of a
>> >defect in the rear?
>>
>> Sounds like a broken spring. Is the ride height level left to right?
>> Certainly 300 pounds wouldn't cause this problem even if you left it
>> in there forever.

 

On 10 Oct 2006 12:46:13 -0700, "highkm" <ic3po@mac.com> wrote:

>I had it checked out at the dealership. They inspected it and did not
>find any broken springs.

They need to check it again. Or you may want to take it to another
dealer or an independent mechanic. They need to look carefully at the
top of the coil.

> They did ask about the load that I put on it.
>They called Honda Canada. I was informed that in reality all Pilots
>will eventually drop in height under its own weight.

This is true of all cars. However, the drop in height is slight and
occurs over a long period.

> What I've done has
>accelerated the rear rate of collapse. The front should crush the
>springs under its own weight eventually.

If the drop is so great as to be noticeable, then it is not right.
Either there was a lot more weight than you think or something was
drastically defective.

>The front end is the heavier
>part of the vehicle so it'll eventually end up being lower than the
>rear, provided that I never load the rear again ofcourse.

Well, that is BS. If this was a design problem, then we would be
seeing all kinds of reports and we haven't. If it is a sample defect,
then it needs to be fixed under warranty. "Never load the rear again"
is not a satisfactory fix.

> Honda canada
>did file my concern, because when the warranty nears an end, and if the
>car is not level, I'll be knocking on their door again. I believe that
>this vehicle got a little weaker springs in the rear than most of other
>Pilots. It is probably due to the inconsistency of the spring
>manufacturer/supplier etc. - bad material - poor quality control, Honda
>is not imune to things like that sometimes.

If this is true then they should fix it under warranty.

>Maybe in the future they
>should take some pointers from GM and raise the back a bit like Yukon.

LOL. The last think Honda needs to do is take pointers from GM.





>Gordon McGrew wrote:
>> On 9 Oct 2006 13:35:11 -0700, "Robert" <kraft.fhs@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Wow I have never had any problems with my 2004...I've driven a 200-mile
>> >trip with about a 2500 lb. trailer, probably close to 500 lbs. of
>> >equipment in the back, and five people...it barely strained the engine
>> >and my height looks perfectly normal. Perhaps you have some sort of a
>> >defect in the rear?
>>
>> Sounds like a broken spring. Is the ride height level left to right?
>> Certainly 300 pounds wouldn't cause this problem even if you left it
>> in there forever.

 

On 10 Oct 2006 12:46:13 -0700, "highkm" <ic3po@mac.com> wrote:

>I had it checked out at the dealership. They inspected it and did not
>find any broken springs.

They need to check it again. Or you may want to take it to another
dealer or an independent mechanic. They need to look carefully at the
top of the coil.

> They did ask about the load that I put on it.
>They called Honda Canada. I was informed that in reality all Pilots
>will eventually drop in height under its own weight.

This is true of all cars. However, the drop in height is slight and
occurs over a long period.

> What I've done has
>accelerated the rear rate of collapse. The front should crush the
>springs under its own weight eventually.

If the drop is so great as to be noticeable, then it is not right.
Either there was a lot more weight than you think or something was
drastically defective.

>The front end is the heavier
>part of the vehicle so it'll eventually end up being lower than the
>rear, provided that I never load the rear again ofcourse.

Well, that is BS. If this was a design problem, then we would be
seeing all kinds of reports and we haven't. If it is a sample defect,
then it needs to be fixed under warranty. "Never load the rear again"
is not a satisfactory fix.

> Honda canada
>did file my concern, because when the warranty nears an end, and if the
>car is not level, I'll be knocking on their door again. I believe that
>this vehicle got a little weaker springs in the rear than most of other
>Pilots. It is probably due to the inconsistency of the spring
>manufacturer/supplier etc. - bad material - poor quality control, Honda
>is not imune to things like that sometimes.

If this is true then they should fix it under warranty.

>Maybe in the future they
>should take some pointers from GM and raise the back a bit like Yukon.

LOL. The last think Honda needs to do is take pointers from GM.





>Gordon McGrew wrote:
>> On 9 Oct 2006 13:35:11 -0700, "Robert" <kraft.fhs@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Wow I have never had any problems with my 2004...I've driven a 200-mile
>> >trip with about a 2500 lb. trailer, probably close to 500 lbs. of
>> >equipment in the back, and five people...it barely strained the engine
>> >and my height looks perfectly normal. Perhaps you have some sort of a
>> >defect in the rear?
>>
>> Sounds like a broken spring. Is the ride height level left to right?
>> Certainly 300 pounds wouldn't cause this problem even if you left it
>> in there forever.