"impaid" <xyz@qqq.com> wrote in message
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> Nice little car and I like it better than the 2006 Acura RSX Type S. I'm
> ready to buy the Si but local dealer wanted $5,000 above invoice at first
> and he came down to $2,000 above invoice after going back and forth for an
> hour. No thank! With a few clicks on the computer keyboard, an internet
> manager quoted me below invoice - much better deal. Why would anyone pay
> $3,000 or more over invoice if he could get it under with just a little
> shopping around? What's the best price you've seen on the 2006 Si so far?
>
>

Our local dealer does not have any. Expects to receive one in late Jan, but
it is already sold. I have seen a couple for sale on Ebay for well over
MSRP. In one case the price is around 28k.

 

Nice little car and I like it better than the 2006 Acura RSX Type S. I'm
ready to buy the Si but local dealer wanted $5,000 above invoice at first
and he came down to $2,000 above invoice after going back and forth for an
hour. No thank! With a few clicks on the computer keyboard, an internet
manager quoted me below invoice - much better deal. Why would anyone pay
$3,000 or more over invoice if he could get it under with just a little
shopping around? What's the best price you've seen on the 2006 Si so far?

 

I don't understand why anyone would want to pay so much for such an ugly
car...

"TWW" <twaugh5@***.net> wrote in message
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> "impaid" <xyz@qqq.com> wrote in message
> news:XoGdnVxdtJXkDjHenZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Nice little car and I like it better than the 2006 Acura RSX Type S. I'm
>> ready to buy the Si but local dealer wanted $5,000 above invoice at first
>> and he came down to $2,000 above invoice after going back and forth for
>> an
>> hour. No thank! With a few clicks on the computer keyboard, an internet
>> manager quoted me below invoice - much better deal. Why would anyone pay
>> $3,000 or more over invoice if he could get it under with just a little
>> shopping around? What's the best price you've seen on the 2006 Si so far?
>>
>>
>
> Our local dealer does not have any. Expects to receive one in late Jan,
> but
> it is already sold. I have seen a couple for sale on Ebay for well over
> MSRP. In one case the price is around 28k.
>
>

 

James wrote:

> I don't understand why anyone would want to pay so much for such an ugly
> car...
>

Yeah, it's surprising to see so many Crapsler 300's out there. :-)

 

I am glad someone finally said it... Yeah, it's surprising to see so
many Crapsler 300's out there. :-)

It is a car that wants to be an El Camino or maybe a Dodge Ram when it
grows up. Or maybe it is was modeled after a really ugly woman with a
mustache.

 

I would love to know where you got quoted for around the invoice price.
I haggled a local dealer down to $23,500 - $1200 trade in (95 civic ex)
but I balked at that. I was willing to pay $21K-$1000 for a sticker
MSRP of $20,500

 

I would love to know where you got quoted for around the invoice price.
I haggled a local dealer down to $23,500 - $1200 trade in (95 civic ex)
but I balked at that. I was willing to pay $21K-$1000 for a sticker
MSRP of $20,500. Think I will go out and buy a RSX Type S

 

I think you'll just have to be patient and wait for about six months or
so. By that time... there should be plenty around... and those shiester
dealers won't be able to command that markup any more.

Professor
www.telstar-electronics.com

 

"impaid" <xyz@qqq.com> wrote in message
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> Nice little car and I like it better than the 2006 Acura RSX Type S. I'm
> ready to buy the Si but local dealer wanted $5,000 above invoice at first
> and he came down to $2,000 above invoice after going back and forth for an
> hour. No thank! With a few clicks on the computer keyboard, an internet
> manager quoted me below invoice - much better deal. Why would anyone pay
> $3,000 or more over invoice if he could get it under with just a little
> shopping around? What's the best price you've seen on the 2006 Si so far?

unfortunitely it's supply and demand, lots of people want the SI and there
are few of them around, not trying (by any means) to defend a dealer, but if
you have 1 HOT car on the lot that everyone wants, why are you going to sell
it for less than sticker, they are going ot try and get as much as possible
for it. I'm sure the 5,000 above MSRP you were quoted was the dealer seeing
dollar signs, and him "comming down" to 2,000 over MSRP is him "giving you a
deal" (the old, hey, I like your face, tell you what I'll do, I'll come down
3,000 form my price, but thats the best I can do) and if you walk out, he'll
sell it to someone else. espically if he's getting multiple calls on this
car, and they have 1 with another not comming in for a while.

 

In article <1136814837.880054.9630@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.c om>,
"Professor" <briangriffey@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> I think you'll just have to be patient and wait for about six months or
> so. By that time... there should be plenty around... and those shiester
> dealers won't be able to command that markup any more.

Why are they shyster dealers if they're just charging what the market
will bear?

Just because YOU can't or won't afford it, doesn't make the seller a
shyster.

 

Sorry for topposting... but I think it is a given that car dealers are
shysters period, so what is your problem with the comment?

The fact of the matter is that when a car dealer attempts to sell me a
car for 5k over invoice, and is calling it a deal, that is a little
shady. having said that, I called the dealer back the next day, and it
was gone for sticker price

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <1136814837.880054.9630@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.c om>,
> "Professor" <briangriffey@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > I think you'll just have to be patient and wait for about six months or
> > so. By that time... there should be plenty around... and those shiester
> > dealers won't be able to command that markup any more.
>
> Why are they shyster dealers if they're just charging what the market
> will bear?
>
> Just because YOU can't or won't afford it, doesn't make the seller a
> shyster.

 

On 10 Jan 2006 08:22:02 -0800, volwrath@gmail.com wrote:

>Sorry for topposting... but I think it is a given that car dealers are
>shysters period, so what is your problem with the comment?
>
>The fact of the matter is that when a car dealer attempts to sell me a
>car for 5k over invoice, and is calling it a deal, that is a little
>shady. having said that, I called the dealer back the next day, and it
>was gone for sticker price


Agreed..........

just because we exist in a free market society does not mean that
whatever you charge is fair and reasonable just because the market
will bear it or someone is willing to pay.

I generally have a "low" opinion of car dealers / car salespeople
anyway.

We always have the ability to walk away from the deal but that in no
way justifies the actions of the seller.

Car sales people in general are "slime-*****" I've never trusted any
of them!

Sure the dealers set their own prices..... I for one would never do
business with a dealer who tried to charge such a mark-up.

I can't think of anything offhand that so much BS is involved in when
you go to buy it, as it is with buying a vehicle.

The question is..... not if you were screwed at the dealer but how bad
was it!
---
elbert.clarke@**adelphia.net
remove ** to email

 

In article <1136910122.097955.306920@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
volwrath@gmail.com wrote:

> Sorry for topposting... but I think it is a given that car dealers are
> shysters period, so what is your problem with the comment?

They're not shysters, period....some salesmen are, but many are not.

The fact that it's up to YOU to determine whether he's a shyster or not
is what bugs you, I think. You want not to have to work at it. You
want it handed to you in a "fair" manner ("fair" being what YOU think is
fair).

 

In article <1136910122.097955.306920@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
volwrath@gmail.com wrote:

> The fact of the matter is that when a car dealer attempts to sell me a
> car for 5k over invoice, and is calling it a deal, that is a little
> shady.

If he can get $6K over invoice for every car for the next month or two,
then yes--giving it to you for $5K over invoice is a deal.

And what's with your focus in invoice price? You have this number in
your head as a holy grail, as if it means something. Guess what? It
doesn't. It's a fake number that has nothing to do with what the dealer
paid for the car. Anymore, it's a number designed to satisfy people
like you in some fashion, people who think they have to know what the
dealer paid for the car and go from there--people who think that somehow
that's the only "fair" way to do things.

So now, the actual dealer price is hidden so well you'll never know it
or see it. The "invoice" price is what the magician shows you in one
hand while he's busy hiding things with the other hand.

Meanwhile, you walk into a department store and happily buy a shirt
without knowing what the store paid for it. So who's ripping you off
now?

 

In article <16t8s1llplh3f3f1ji3pmp0955503jetrc@4ax.com>,
Elbert <elbert.clarke@**adelphia.net> wrote:

> just because we exist in a free market society does not mean that
> whatever you charge is fair and reasonable just because the market
> will bear it or someone is willing to pay.

Pray tell, why not?

Sure, it's not reasonable to YOU because YOU don't want to pay that.
But if they have 12 cars to sell and 15 people wanting those cars at $5K
over invoice, what's your beef?

Just because YOU don't think it's reasonable doesn't mean others don't
think it's reasonable. If they're willing to pay, and they have the
money, that's all that matters.

What bothers you is that you're excluded from those deals simply because
you can't pay the going rate.