"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in
news:ssmdnR4vxPRbTSLYnZ2dnUVZ_ruknZ2d@sedona.net:

> "John" <sbnospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:P6CdnZkKPKBgySLYnZ2dnUVZ_riknZ2d@rcn.net...
> Do you want to hear even more? You may call me crazy, but I swear it's
> true.
>
> All of a sudden, the Trip meter (Trip A) shows that the distance from
> my home to my office is 16 miles, when it was always only 15 miles....
> At the same time, the odometer shows less miles that I should probably
> have,

This is inconsistent.The figures you give means a +6.6% error in mileage
for the trip meter,and then the odometer has an OPPOSITE error?
That doesn't seem right.Shouldn't they both have similar errors?

> and I am keeping a good look at that because my car is leased
> and I am constantly monitoring this so that I won't exceed my
> 'allowance'. Again, you may think I drank something, I am telling you
> I didn't.
>
> Is this possible?
>
>================================================= ===================
> Possible that you drank something? Oh! I get it ;-)
>
> Yes, I think it's possible. My thought is electrical trouble, but not
> necessarily easy to find electrical trouble. It could be as direct as
> a deranged Vehicle Speed Sensor or as off-the-wall as noise on the 12
> volt supply to the instrument panel. I don't encourage you to wrap a
> whole lot of time up in this idea, but a check for AC voltage across
> the battery or voltage between the engine block and body (both tests
> with the engine running) would be worthwhile.
>
> If this is odometer foolishness is indeed related to the sudden drop
> in mpg, it is a lot easier to get the service shop to take it
> seriously - it is easier to identify and they will know when it is
> fixed. Really! The trick is to find a preferably known distance and
> drive it while recording the trip and standard odometer readings.
>
> Mike
>
>
>

IIRC,I just read something today on rec.autos.driving about Honda having
some sort of problem with odometers accumulating more miles than actually
driven,thus effectively shortening the warranty,so Honda was going to add
5% to the warranty mileage limit on the cars.

although this sort of problem would increase MPG instead of reducing it.
(6.6% farther distance on a gallon of gas,if he uses the TRIP meter and not
the odometer for the miles travelled.)

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

 

Do you buy your gasoline at the same place?
Maybe the gas pump has a error in the computer .
"John" <ein_shem@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:UISdnXA6d9NL4iPYnZ2dnUVZ_veinZ2d@rcn.net...
Greetings,

My 2005 Accord EX (2.4L) did average of 28 miles per gallon for two years (since I got it in November 2004 until about begining of December 2006). I drive the same highway every day, same speeds (average of 75), same distance every day, went through the same seasons twice (summer/winter) in the same place. Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing has changed in my driving habbits.

Then, sometime in begining of December 2006, all of a sudden I noticed a decline of about 20% in my fuel consumption...from average 28 to average 22.

Any one experienced this before? Any idea what could it be?

Thanks.

 

Do you buy your gasoline at the same place?
Maybe the gas pump has a error in the computer .
"John" <ein_shem@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:UISdnXA6d9NL4iPYnZ2dnUVZ_veinZ2d@rcn.net...
Greetings,

My 2005 Accord EX (2.4L) did average of 28 miles per gallon for two years (since I got it in November 2004 until about begining of December 2006). I drive the same highway every day, same speeds (average of 75), same distance every day, went through the same seasons twice (summer/winter) in the same place. Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing has changed in my driving habbits.

Then, sometime in begining of December 2006, all of a sudden I noticed a decline of about 20% in my fuel consumption...from average 28 to average 22.

Any one experienced this before? Any idea what could it be?

Thanks.

 

Do you buy your gasoline at the same place?
Maybe the gas pump has a error in the computer .
"John" <ein_shem@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:UISdnXA6d9NL4iPYnZ2dnUVZ_veinZ2d@rcn.net...
Greetings,

My 2005 Accord EX (2.4L) did average of 28 miles per gallon for two years (since I got it in November 2004 until about begining of December 2006). I drive the same highway every day, same speeds (average of 75), same distance every day, went through the same seasons twice (summer/winter) in the same place. Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing has changed in my driving habbits.

Then, sometime in begining of December 2006, all of a sudden I noticed a decline of about 20% in my fuel consumption...from average 28 to average 22.

Any one experienced this before? Any idea what could it be?

Thanks.

 

Do you buy your gasoline at the same place?
Maybe the gas pump has a error in the computer .
"John" <ein_shem@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:UISdnXA6d9NL4iPYnZ2dnUVZ_veinZ2d@rcn.net...
Greetings,

My 2005 Accord EX (2.4L) did average of 28 miles per gallon for two years (since I got it in November 2004 until about begining of December 2006). I drive the same highway every day, same speeds (average of 75), same distance every day, went through the same seasons twice (summer/winter) in the same place. Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing has changed in my driving habbits.

Then, sometime in begining of December 2006, all of a sudden I noticed a decline of about 20% in my fuel consumption...from average 28 to average 22.

Any one experienced this before? Any idea what could it be?

Thanks.

 

I get as high as 40 mpg on summer road trips
and as low as 30 for winter city driving for a civic.
Three factors are, 15% ethonal in winter (less mileage),
more city driving, less cold weather performance.

 

I get as high as 40 mpg on summer road trips
and as low as 30 for winter city driving for a civic.
Three factors are, 15% ethonal in winter (less mileage),
more city driving, less cold weather performance.

 

I get as high as 40 mpg on summer road trips
and as low as 30 for winter city driving for a civic.
Three factors are, 15% ethonal in winter (less mileage),
more city driving, less cold weather performance.

 

I get as high as 40 mpg on summer road trips
and as low as 30 for winter city driving for a civic.
Three factors are, 15% ethonal in winter (less mileage),
more city driving, less cold weather performance.

 

John wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> My 2005 Accord EX (2.4L) did average of 28 miles per gallon for two
> years (since I got it in November 2004 until about begining of December
> 2006). I drive the same highway every day, same speeds (average of 75),
> same distance every day, went through the same seasons twice
> (summer/winter) in the same place. Nothing, and I mean /absolutely/
> nothing has changed in my driving habbits.
>
> Then, sometime in begining of December 2006, all of a sudden I noticed a
> decline of about *20%* in my fuel consumption...from average 28 to
> average 22.
>
> Any one experienced this before? Any idea what could it be?
>
> Thanks.


Has the air filter ever been replaced? Perhaps it reached the point of
being clogged enough to cause a great deal of inlet restriction.

 

John wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> My 2005 Accord EX (2.4L) did average of 28 miles per gallon for two
> years (since I got it in November 2004 until about begining of December
> 2006). I drive the same highway every day, same speeds (average of 75),
> same distance every day, went through the same seasons twice
> (summer/winter) in the same place. Nothing, and I mean /absolutely/
> nothing has changed in my driving habbits.
>
> Then, sometime in begining of December 2006, all of a sudden I noticed a
> decline of about *20%* in my fuel consumption...from average 28 to
> average 22.
>
> Any one experienced this before? Any idea what could it be?
>
> Thanks.


Has the air filter ever been replaced? Perhaps it reached the point of
being clogged enough to cause a great deal of inlet restriction.

 

John wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> My 2005 Accord EX (2.4L) did average of 28 miles per gallon for two
> years (since I got it in November 2004 until about begining of December
> 2006). I drive the same highway every day, same speeds (average of 75),
> same distance every day, went through the same seasons twice
> (summer/winter) in the same place. Nothing, and I mean /absolutely/
> nothing has changed in my driving habbits.
>
> Then, sometime in begining of December 2006, all of a sudden I noticed a
> decline of about *20%* in my fuel consumption...from average 28 to
> average 22.
>
> Any one experienced this before? Any idea what could it be?
>
> Thanks.


Has the air filter ever been replaced? Perhaps it reached the point of
being clogged enough to cause a great deal of inlet restriction.

 

John wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> My 2005 Accord EX (2.4L) did average of 28 miles per gallon for two
> years (since I got it in November 2004 until about begining of December
> 2006). I drive the same highway every day, same speeds (average of 75),
> same distance every day, went through the same seasons twice
> (summer/winter) in the same place. Nothing, and I mean /absolutely/
> nothing has changed in my driving habbits.
>
> Then, sometime in begining of December 2006, all of a sudden I noticed a
> decline of about *20%* in my fuel consumption...from average 28 to
> average 22.
>
> Any one experienced this before? Any idea what could it be?
>
> Thanks.


Has the air filter ever been replaced? Perhaps it reached the point of
being clogged enough to cause a great deal of inlet restriction.

 

| "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net>

"honda saleswoman" is truer

 

| In winter, you have 3 significant factors messing with mileage

What about ECU's open loop lasting longer ?
http://home.flash.net/~lorint/lorin/fuel/lambda.htm