I am on my 14th Honda in my life. I have never had one that used oil.

So no, it's not normal :-)

G-Man


"George C." <harley_davidonX@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 15 May 2006 15:42:27 GMT, "hondaman" <jeffscomp@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>you really shouldn't be having to add oil between changes on a car that
>>new.
>>unless it's been abused badly and something went wrong with it. it may be
>>hard to get it straightened out with the dealer. they're not going to
>>rebuild or give you another engine if it's somehow burning the oil unless
>>it
>>gets to be a major oil loss. i'm wondering if it may be dripping a little
>>from somewhere. maybe you can park it over a newspaper for awhile and see
>>if
>>it's leaving big oil spots. it sounds like its using oil like an older
>>honda
>>might but it should not be doing that.
>>
>> -jeff
>>"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
>>news:xPydnXy0uvjG7vXZRVn-tQ@sedona.net...
>>> <bullyboyzz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1147692706.901327.215340@v46g2000cwv.googlegr oups.com...
>>>> r u sure u dont have a oil leak ?? never heard of a car with less
>>>> than 25 k using oil that noticeable!
>>>>
>>> Some makes do, but in Hondas it has most often been a sign of the
>>> mysterious oil consumption syndrome - low mileage cars that suddenly
>>> start
>>> consuming oil... no leaks, no smoke. In the cases I've heard of where a
>>> problem was found it was a broken piston ring.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>
> It's ok. Thanks for all the responses. I've decided I'm going to do
> what I said, at first - just add oil, keep my mouth shut, and then if
> asked, "Oh, it's never burned a drop!" at trade-in. Then they can do
> all the consumption tests they want, and hope I don't get the same
> kind of thing next time around. I wish this was the biggest worry in
> my llife.
>
>
>

 

There could also be some moisture in the oil so it looks like you are not
using any oil whatsoever.


"duckbill" <ltcauth13@nospam.cs.com> wrote in message
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> Don't forget, a little oil seepage past seals, gaskets, etc. can add up.
> And, what about the PCV valve that is sucking oil mist fumes out of your
> crankcase and burning them? If I was using no oil, I would be more
> worried than if I was using just a little. More than likely, some of these
> cars that are using no oil are in fact using some as many people/dealers
> overfill the oil capacity by about 1/2 a quart at oil change time. This
> does no damage and ends up protecting many of us that don't check our oil
> level very often. If it was me, I would top up the oil with a 1/2 quart
> after 2,000 / 2,500 miles and change it at 4,500. Just my opinion of
> course.
>

 

There could also be some moisture in the oil so it looks like you are not
using any oil whatsoever.


"duckbill" <ltcauth13@nospam.cs.com> wrote in message
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> Don't forget, a little oil seepage past seals, gaskets, etc. can add up.
> And, what about the PCV valve that is sucking oil mist fumes out of your
> crankcase and burning them? If I was using no oil, I would be more
> worried than if I was using just a little. More than likely, some of these
> cars that are using no oil are in fact using some as many people/dealers
> overfill the oil capacity by about 1/2 a quart at oil change time. This
> does no damage and ends up protecting many of us that don't check our oil
> level very often. If it was me, I would top up the oil with a 1/2 quart
> after 2,000 / 2,500 miles and change it at 4,500. Just my opinion of
> course.
>

 

There could also be some moisture in the oil so it looks like you are not
using any oil whatsoever.


"duckbill" <ltcauth13@nospam.cs.com> wrote in message
news:fe9d3e58c257cea89df8cf20fee6ef24@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> Don't forget, a little oil seepage past seals, gaskets, etc. can add up.
> And, what about the PCV valve that is sucking oil mist fumes out of your
> crankcase and burning them? If I was using no oil, I would be more
> worried than if I was using just a little. More than likely, some of these
> cars that are using no oil are in fact using some as many people/dealers
> overfill the oil capacity by about 1/2 a quart at oil change time. This
> does no damage and ends up protecting many of us that don't check our oil
> level very often. If it was me, I would top up the oil with a 1/2 quart
> after 2,000 / 2,500 miles and change it at 4,500. Just my opinion of
> course.
>

 

George C. wrote:

> I warm it up well, and I get 28 - 31 mpg tank to tank.
>
> I'd say that I'm using 1/2 a dipstick mark in 3200 miles.
> 22,400 miles on the car, and the consumption has seemed the same,
> throughout, since new..


Using 1/2 quart in 3200 miles of driving is well with reasonable
expectations, particularly for the fairly thin 5W-20 oil modern Hondas run.

If you are loosing sleep over this, stop!

John

 

George C. wrote:

> I warm it up well, and I get 28 - 31 mpg tank to tank.
>
> I'd say that I'm using 1/2 a dipstick mark in 3200 miles.
> 22,400 miles on the car, and the consumption has seemed the same,
> throughout, since new..


Using 1/2 quart in 3200 miles of driving is well with reasonable
expectations, particularly for the fairly thin 5W-20 oil modern Hondas run.

If you are loosing sleep over this, stop!

John

 

George C. wrote:

> I warm it up well, and I get 28 - 31 mpg tank to tank.
>
> I'd say that I'm using 1/2 a dipstick mark in 3200 miles.
> 22,400 miles on the car, and the consumption has seemed the same,
> throughout, since new..


Using 1/2 quart in 3200 miles of driving is well with reasonable
expectations, particularly for the fairly thin 5W-20 oil modern Hondas run.

If you are loosing sleep over this, stop!

John

 

I forgot to post back here the results of a lengthy oil consumption
test.

None, zero, zip. That's how much oil my 05 Honda had been burning.
Why the low dip stick? Some tech most likely didn't fully top it off.

3000 into prev. oil change, I posted my original message. Had it
topped off, tested again 2000 miles later. Then, sched maint.. 2000
miles into new oil change, no loss (I mean not a drop, AFAICT).



On Sun, 14 May 2006 06:54:32 GMT, harley.davidson@mailcity.com (George
C.) wrote:

>
>I"m wanting to know how much oil consumption is too much?
>Is it what the factory would lead one to believe?
>
>I find it hard to believe, and disgusted that I'm expected to believe
>that 1 quart per 1000 miles is the acceptable limit.
>
>My 05 Accord, 4 cyl, 5 spd manual, 40 mile commute each way uses far
>less, but still uses some.
>
>I'm in a debate wether I should just add oil and not indicate to the
>dealer that it consumes oil, so I can trade it in, and say hell with
>it. They never told me. I won't tell them. OR find out more about
>this oil consumption test, and what it entails. And more importantly
>what they'll do about it, if it doesnt meet the 'excess of 1
>quart/1000 mile".
>
>I have never missed a scheduled appointment. I keep my tires
>inflated. I do run it at 70-75 mph for a good part of my commute.
>I warm it up well, and I get 28 - 31 mpg tank to tank.
>
>I'd say that I'm using 1/2 a dipstick mark in 3200 miles.
>22,400 miles on the car, and the consumption has seemed the same,
>throughout, since new..
>
>Please advise.

 

I forgot to post back here the results of a lengthy oil consumption
test.

None, zero, zip. That's how much oil my 05 Honda had been burning.
Why the low dip stick? Some tech most likely didn't fully top it off.

3000 into prev. oil change, I posted my original message. Had it
topped off, tested again 2000 miles later. Then, sched maint.. 2000
miles into new oil change, no loss (I mean not a drop, AFAICT).



On Sun, 14 May 2006 06:54:32 GMT, harley.davidson@mailcity.com (George
C.) wrote:

>
>I"m wanting to know how much oil consumption is too much?
>Is it what the factory would lead one to believe?
>
>I find it hard to believe, and disgusted that I'm expected to believe
>that 1 quart per 1000 miles is the acceptable limit.
>
>My 05 Accord, 4 cyl, 5 spd manual, 40 mile commute each way uses far
>less, but still uses some.
>
>I'm in a debate wether I should just add oil and not indicate to the
>dealer that it consumes oil, so I can trade it in, and say hell with
>it. They never told me. I won't tell them. OR find out more about
>this oil consumption test, and what it entails. And more importantly
>what they'll do about it, if it doesnt meet the 'excess of 1
>quart/1000 mile".
>
>I have never missed a scheduled appointment. I keep my tires
>inflated. I do run it at 70-75 mph for a good part of my commute.
>I warm it up well, and I get 28 - 31 mpg tank to tank.
>
>I'd say that I'm using 1/2 a dipstick mark in 3200 miles.
>22,400 miles on the car, and the consumption has seemed the same,
>throughout, since new..
>
>Please advise.

 

I forgot to post back here the results of a lengthy oil consumption
test.

None, zero, zip. That's how much oil my 05 Honda had been burning.
Why the low dip stick? Some tech most likely didn't fully top it off.

3000 into prev. oil change, I posted my original message. Had it
topped off, tested again 2000 miles later. Then, sched maint.. 2000
miles into new oil change, no loss (I mean not a drop, AFAICT).



On Sun, 14 May 2006 06:54:32 GMT, harley.davidson@mailcity.com (George
C.) wrote:

>
>I"m wanting to know how much oil consumption is too much?
>Is it what the factory would lead one to believe?
>
>I find it hard to believe, and disgusted that I'm expected to believe
>that 1 quart per 1000 miles is the acceptable limit.
>
>My 05 Accord, 4 cyl, 5 spd manual, 40 mile commute each way uses far
>less, but still uses some.
>
>I'm in a debate wether I should just add oil and not indicate to the
>dealer that it consumes oil, so I can trade it in, and say hell with
>it. They never told me. I won't tell them. OR find out more about
>this oil consumption test, and what it entails. And more importantly
>what they'll do about it, if it doesnt meet the 'excess of 1
>quart/1000 mile".
>
>I have never missed a scheduled appointment. I keep my tires
>inflated. I do run it at 70-75 mph for a good part of my commute.
>I warm it up well, and I get 28 - 31 mpg tank to tank.
>
>I'd say that I'm using 1/2 a dipstick mark in 3200 miles.
>22,400 miles on the car, and the consumption has seemed the same,
>throughout, since new..
>
>Please advise.