I had a 2002 Accord SE (lease) and when the lease ended I got a 2005 EX. There are some very nice new features in the new 2005 that I didn't have in the 2002 - such as the 5 speed automatic transmission, better torque, radio-controls on the steering wheel, no more wind noise at slow speed when the roof is open, and a few more.

However, with that came new problems that are extremely annoying, and that makes me miss my 2002. For example:
a.. The new design is such that if the car is wet (for instance - if it poured all night long) and you open the trunk, the water goes straight inside the trunk...something that didn't happen in the 2005 design.
b.. The panel illumination is extremely nice; when you turn the key on, this beautiful cockpit comes to life. However you cannot see it very clearly in day light, so you have to turn it to its brightest settings. But at night, the brightest settings is too bright and it blinds me, so I have to turn it back.
But the two most annoying things really bother me:

1. at 80 mph (starts at 79, ends at 81) there is a weird whistle in the car and it is effected by the accelerator pedal. RPM has no effect on it whatsoever. When I am at 80 and I step on the accelerator, all of a sudden you can hear a whistle. It is not the speakers, it is not the radio, it has nothing to do with the fan (I shut it completely off), it happens whether I am in a downhill or up hill - when it's 80, the whistle is on until I am past 81. I am extremely sensitive to noises in cars and it bothers me a lot.

2. I think it happens only when the engine is cold, but I am not sure - when I shift to D the first time after I start the car, about 5-7 seconds after that the RPM all of a sudden jump up. It is like an A/C just kicked on....If I shift to D and release the brake, the car actually jumps forward and start driving by itself (again - after about 5-7 seconds). This is actually dangerous...people who drive by my drive way think that I jump into the road right in front of them.

Any one has any experience with these issues, or is it just my specific car?

Thank you.

 

I don't see that "jump" in my brand-new 2005 EX V6 but I will listen carefully @80.

 

I don't see that "jump" in my brand-new 2005 EX V6 but I will listen carefully @80.

 

Forgot to mention - I am talking about I4, not the V6.
"harry" <harry_liu@lcc.com> wrote in message news:A7bne.36312$aB.14169@lakeread03...
I don't see that "jump" in my brand-new 2005 EX V6 but I will listen carefully @80.

 

Forgot to mention - I am talking about I4, not the V6.
"harry" <harry_liu@lcc.com> wrote in message news:A7bne.36312$aB.14169@lakeread03...
I don't see that "jump" in my brand-new 2005 EX V6 but I will listen carefully @80.

 

John,
Although I have just had my 2005 Accord EX with the I4 engine for just a few months, I can say that I have experienced none of your problems.
There is no reason for you to tolerate them because:

1. They are legitimate.
2. Honda must remedy the situation, since you are under warrantee.

I know it can be a very frustrating experience getting the service people to repair everything. There are horror stories out there concerning almost every auto manufacturer. I've certainly had my share.
However, If you're lucky, the Honda service people you deal with will be competent and cooperative.
Good Luck.
"John" <ein_shem@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:hJednScTh_YcngDfRVn-vA@rcn.net...
I had a 2002 Accord SE (lease) and when the lease ended I got a 2005 EX. There are some very nice new features in the new 2005 that I didn't have in the 2002 - such as the 5 speed automatic transmission, better torque, radio-controls on the steering wheel, no more wind noise at slow speed when the roof is open, and a few more.

However, with that came new problems that are extremely annoying, and that makes me miss my 2002. For example:
a.. The new design is such that if the car is wet (for instance - if it poured all night long) and you open the trunk, the water goes straight inside the trunk...something that didn't happen in the 2005 design.
b.. The panel illumination is extremely nice; when you turn the key on, this beautiful cockpit comes to life. However you cannot see it very clearly in day light, so you have to turn it to its brightest settings. But at night, the brightest settings is too bright and it blinds me, so I have to turn it back.
But the two most annoying things really bother me:

1. at 80 mph (starts at 79, ends at 81) there is a weird whistle in the car and it is effected by the accelerator pedal. RPM has no effect on it whatsoever. When I am at 80 and I step on the accelerator, all of a sudden you can hear a whistle. It is not the speakers, it is not the radio, it has nothing to do with the fan (I shut it completely off), it happens whether I am in a downhill or up hill - when it's 80, the whistle is on until I am past 81. I am extremely sensitive to noises in cars and it bothers me a lot.

2. I think it happens only when the engine is cold, but I am not sure - when I shift to D the first time after I start the car, about 5-7 seconds after that the RPM all of a sudden jump up. It is like an A/C just kicked on....If I shift to D and release the brake, the car actually jumps forward and start driving by itself (again - after about 5-7 seconds). This is actually dangerous...people who drive by my drive way think that I jump into the road right in front of them.

Any one has any experience with these issues, or is it just my specific car?

Thank you.

 

John,
Although I have just had my 2005 Accord EX with the I4 engine for just a few months, I can say that I have experienced none of your problems.
There is no reason for you to tolerate them because:

1. They are legitimate.
2. Honda must remedy the situation, since you are under warrantee.

I know it can be a very frustrating experience getting the service people to repair everything. There are horror stories out there concerning almost every auto manufacturer. I've certainly had my share.
However, If you're lucky, the Honda service people you deal with will be competent and cooperative.
Good Luck.
"John" <ein_shem@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:hJednScTh_YcngDfRVn-vA@rcn.net...
I had a 2002 Accord SE (lease) and when the lease ended I got a 2005 EX. There are some very nice new features in the new 2005 that I didn't have in the 2002 - such as the 5 speed automatic transmission, better torque, radio-controls on the steering wheel, no more wind noise at slow speed when the roof is open, and a few more.

However, with that came new problems that are extremely annoying, and that makes me miss my 2002. For example:
a.. The new design is such that if the car is wet (for instance - if it poured all night long) and you open the trunk, the water goes straight inside the trunk...something that didn't happen in the 2005 design.
b.. The panel illumination is extremely nice; when you turn the key on, this beautiful cockpit comes to life. However you cannot see it very clearly in day light, so you have to turn it to its brightest settings. But at night, the brightest settings is too bright and it blinds me, so I have to turn it back.
But the two most annoying things really bother me:

1. at 80 mph (starts at 79, ends at 81) there is a weird whistle in the car and it is effected by the accelerator pedal. RPM has no effect on it whatsoever. When I am at 80 and I step on the accelerator, all of a sudden you can hear a whistle. It is not the speakers, it is not the radio, it has nothing to do with the fan (I shut it completely off), it happens whether I am in a downhill or up hill - when it's 80, the whistle is on until I am past 81. I am extremely sensitive to noises in cars and it bothers me a lot.

2. I think it happens only when the engine is cold, but I am not sure - when I shift to D the first time after I start the car, about 5-7 seconds after that the RPM all of a sudden jump up. It is like an A/C just kicked on....If I shift to D and release the brake, the car actually jumps forward and start driving by itself (again - after about 5-7 seconds). This is actually dangerous...people who drive by my drive way think that I jump into the road right in front of them.

Any one has any experience with these issues, or is it just my specific car?

Thank you.

 

John wrote:

> * The new design is such that if the car is wet (for instance - if
> it poured all night long) and you open the trunk, the water goes
> straight inside the trunk...something that didn't happen in the
> 2005 design.

Yep, that is a real nuisance and a sign of poor design/engineering.

Open the doors in the rain is no treat either.

And whatever you do, don't run the windshield wipers with your windows
open driving down the road. Found that one out the hard way!

John

 

John wrote:

> * The new design is such that if the car is wet (for instance - if
> it poured all night long) and you open the trunk, the water goes
> straight inside the trunk...something that didn't happen in the
> 2005 design.

Yep, that is a real nuisance and a sign of poor design/engineering.

Open the doors in the rain is no treat either.

And whatever you do, don't run the windshield wipers with your windows
open driving down the road. Found that one out the hard way!

John

 

"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
newsuLoe.879$Kj3.395@trnddc03...
>
> Yep, that is a real nuisance and a sign of poor design/engineering.
>
> Open the doors in the rain is no treat either.
>
> And whatever you do, don't run the windshield wipers with your windows
> open driving down the road. Found that one out the hard way!

Why would a person drive with their windows open, with it raining hard
enough to require the wipers being used?

Brian

 

"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
newsuLoe.879$Kj3.395@trnddc03...
>
> Yep, that is a real nuisance and a sign of poor design/engineering.
>
> Open the doors in the rain is no treat either.
>
> And whatever you do, don't run the windshield wipers with your windows
> open driving down the road. Found that one out the hard way!

Why would a person drive with their windows open, with it raining hard
enough to require the wipers being used?

Brian

 

"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
news:VqNoe.27405$HI.6539@edtnps84...
>
> "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> newsuLoe.879$Kj3.395@trnddc03...
>>
>> Yep, that is a real nuisance and a sign of poor design/engineering.
>>
>> Open the doors in the rain is no treat either.
>>
>> And whatever you do, don't run the windshield wipers with your windows
>> open driving down the road. Found that one out the hard way!
>
> Why would a person drive with their windows open, with it raining hard
> enough to require the wipers being used?

I don't know about fully open, but I often open them a few inches regardless
of weather while I have a smoke.

 

"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
news:VqNoe.27405$HI.6539@edtnps84...
>
> "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> newsuLoe.879$Kj3.395@trnddc03...
>>
>> Yep, that is a real nuisance and a sign of poor design/engineering.
>>
>> Open the doors in the rain is no treat either.
>>
>> And whatever you do, don't run the windshield wipers with your windows
>> open driving down the road. Found that one out the hard way!
>
> Why would a person drive with their windows open, with it raining hard
> enough to require the wipers being used?

I don't know about fully open, but I often open them a few inches regardless
of weather while I have a smoke.

 

Brian Smith wrote:
> "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> newsuLoe.879$Kj3.395@trnddc03...
>
>>Yep, that is a real nuisance and a sign of poor design/engineering.
>>
>>Open the doors in the rain is no treat either.
>>
>>And whatever you do, don't run the windshield wipers with your windows
>>open driving down the road. Found that one out the hard way!
>
>
> Why would a person drive with their windows open, with it raining hard
> enough to require the wipers being used?

Perhaps he means "don't spray the windshield washer when the
side windows open".

 

Brian Smith wrote:
> "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> newsuLoe.879$Kj3.395@trnddc03...
>
>>Yep, that is a real nuisance and a sign of poor design/engineering.
>>
>>Open the doors in the rain is no treat either.
>>
>>And whatever you do, don't run the windshield wipers with your windows
>>open driving down the road. Found that one out the hard way!
>
>
> Why would a person drive with their windows open, with it raining hard
> enough to require the wipers being used?

Perhaps he means "don't spray the windshield washer when the
side windows open".