"GoHonda" <dwhiting@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
news:1167621978.071168.96240@n51g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> I took it to Jiffy lube were they flushed the fluid. I have google
> since on this and guess it wasn't such a good thing and I'm not sure
> what they put in.
>
You bought a car that was salvaged , (cleaned up) from flood damage. Got a
transmission problem--Wow, that's a surprise. Then you compound it all by
bringing it in to a Jiffy Lube. And then you post here asking for anyone's
thoughts. Amazing!!!!

 

On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 14:58:16 -0800, jim beam
<spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:

>GoHonda wrote:
>> Well while at JL they said there was no drain plug for the trans and I
>> had a choice of draining through the dip stick (via pump and replace)
>> or do the flush hmmm.. The drain plug could not be more obvious at the
>> lowest point of the trans. I pulled the plug and it was coated whith a
>> pure black sludge. The first half of the drain was very dark almost a
>> pure black then toward the last quart or so the fluid began to look
>> red. Not sure if they changed anything....
>>
>almost certainly not! apart from the fact that they ripped you, that's
>a good thing!
>
>bottom line, while use of non-honda fluid definitely affects shift
>quality big time, it does not in my experience cause the transmission to
>slip - just shift like someone slammed a door in your face. if your
>transmission is slipping, it's either a control solenoid [unlikely but
>possible] or something is fouled up. black sludge in the fluid
>indicates the latter. call honda usa's national customer support line
>tomorrow and see what they say. there was a huge recall on these
>transmissions and you may be covered.

And after that, file a complaint against JL with the Attorney General.

 

On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 14:58:16 -0800, jim beam
<spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:

>GoHonda wrote:
>> Well while at JL they said there was no drain plug for the trans and I
>> had a choice of draining through the dip stick (via pump and replace)
>> or do the flush hmmm.. The drain plug could not be more obvious at the
>> lowest point of the trans. I pulled the plug and it was coated whith a
>> pure black sludge. The first half of the drain was very dark almost a
>> pure black then toward the last quart or so the fluid began to look
>> red. Not sure if they changed anything....
>>
>almost certainly not! apart from the fact that they ripped you, that's
>a good thing!
>
>bottom line, while use of non-honda fluid definitely affects shift
>quality big time, it does not in my experience cause the transmission to
>slip - just shift like someone slammed a door in your face. if your
>transmission is slipping, it's either a control solenoid [unlikely but
>possible] or something is fouled up. black sludge in the fluid
>indicates the latter. call honda usa's national customer support line
>tomorrow and see what they say. there was a huge recall on these
>transmissions and you may be covered.

And after that, file a complaint against JL with the Attorney General.

 

On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 14:58:16 -0800, jim beam
<spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:

>GoHonda wrote:
>> Well while at JL they said there was no drain plug for the trans and I
>> had a choice of draining through the dip stick (via pump and replace)
>> or do the flush hmmm.. The drain plug could not be more obvious at the
>> lowest point of the trans. I pulled the plug and it was coated whith a
>> pure black sludge. The first half of the drain was very dark almost a
>> pure black then toward the last quart or so the fluid began to look
>> red. Not sure if they changed anything....
>>
>almost certainly not! apart from the fact that they ripped you, that's
>a good thing!
>
>bottom line, while use of non-honda fluid definitely affects shift
>quality big time, it does not in my experience cause the transmission to
>slip - just shift like someone slammed a door in your face. if your
>transmission is slipping, it's either a control solenoid [unlikely but
>possible] or something is fouled up. black sludge in the fluid
>indicates the latter. call honda usa's national customer support line
>tomorrow and see what they say. there was a huge recall on these
>transmissions and you may be covered.

And after that, file a complaint against JL with the Attorney General.

 

Well performed the first drain and refill and it looks promising. It
shifted much better, the slip from 1st to 2nd has cleared up. Still
have a slip going from 2nd to 3rd but much better about a 50%
improvement. I drove it about 10 miles and now I'm draining the trans
again will refill tomorrow and repeat two more times. Looks promising
so far. Thanks for all the help and advice. I will post the final
results....

 

Well performed the first drain and refill and it looks promising. It
shifted much better, the slip from 1st to 2nd has cleared up. Still
have a slip going from 2nd to 3rd but much better about a 50%
improvement. I drove it about 10 miles and now I'm draining the trans
again will refill tomorrow and repeat two more times. Looks promising
so far. Thanks for all the help and advice. I will post the final
results....

 

Well performed the first drain and refill and it looks promising. It
shifted much better, the slip from 1st to 2nd has cleared up. Still
have a slip going from 2nd to 3rd but much better about a 50%
improvement. I drove it about 10 miles and now I'm draining the trans
again will refill tomorrow and repeat two more times. Looks promising
so far. Thanks for all the help and advice. I will post the final
results....

 

GoHonda wrote:
> Well performed the first drain and refill and it looks promising. It
> shifted much better, the slip from 1st to 2nd has cleared up. Still
> have a slip going from 2nd to 3rd but much better about a 50%
> improvement. I drove it about 10 miles and now I'm draining the trans
> again will refill tomorrow and repeat two more times. Looks promising
> so far. Thanks for all the help and advice. I will post the final
> results....
>
another thought, if the transmission really is slipping, i.e. the
clutches aren't holding, you will get a code from the ecu. the 2001 has
sensors on the input and output shafts to detect speed anomalies, and
therefore slippage.

 

GoHonda wrote:
> Well performed the first drain and refill and it looks promising. It
> shifted much better, the slip from 1st to 2nd has cleared up. Still
> have a slip going from 2nd to 3rd but much better about a 50%
> improvement. I drove it about 10 miles and now I'm draining the trans
> again will refill tomorrow and repeat two more times. Looks promising
> so far. Thanks for all the help and advice. I will post the final
> results....
>
another thought, if the transmission really is slipping, i.e. the
clutches aren't holding, you will get a code from the ecu. the 2001 has
sensors on the input and output shafts to detect speed anomalies, and
therefore slippage.

 

GoHonda wrote:
> Well performed the first drain and refill and it looks promising. It
> shifted much better, the slip from 1st to 2nd has cleared up. Still
> have a slip going from 2nd to 3rd but much better about a 50%
> improvement. I drove it about 10 miles and now I'm draining the trans
> again will refill tomorrow and repeat two more times. Looks promising
> so far. Thanks for all the help and advice. I will post the final
> results....
>
another thought, if the transmission really is slipping, i.e. the
clutches aren't holding, you will get a code from the ecu. the 2001 has
sensors on the input and output shafts to detect speed anomalies, and
therefore slippage.

 

Thanks Jim I will check the codes....

 

Thanks Jim I will check the codes....

 

Thanks Jim I will check the codes....