1990 Civic Wagon with Periodic Starting Problem
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Re: 1990 Civic Wagon with Periodic Starting Problem
"OS" <bs243@hotmail.com> wrote
> > I suspect your dealer will NOT re-solder the original relay,they'd rather
> > sell you a new relay;they profit from the sale and the installation.
> >
> > And they may not know how to solder either!
> >
> > But good luck,I hope this fixes your car,and I'm glad to be of some help!
>
> I talked to my mechanic (not a Honda dealer, just a chain--Tires
> Plus), and he knew exactly what I was talking about with the main
> relay. He does know how to solder, but I'm just going to order a new
> part (my preference), but he says it has to come from the Honda
> dealer.
Por que?
Online parts sites sell OEM, too.
Of course, delivery might take a week.
> I'll also call the Honda automotive website on Monday that
> someone provided, because the part isn't listed on their site. I'm
> assuming that I can install a new one, but I can't find the old one.
> I've looked all under the dash. The mechanic said you can pull relays
> all day and not get the right one.
Not this one. I'm an amateur, and there's only one relay (really, a "relay
assembly") that looks anything like the picture at
http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm .
It is tucked up in there (on the driver's dash side, on the left, maybe a few
inches above knee height) on some Honda models though.
It helps to have the new one in your hand, to match up shapes and maybe, but not
necessarily, colors.
>I may have to let him find it.
I was originally going to have an import shop fix mine in 1999, but they were
busy. I asked the mechanic if maybe he could point it out to me. He graciously
took a couple of minutes and got in there with a flashlight and did.
Then I took the hour and acquired the scratched up knuckles wrangling the thing
out, like Tomb wrote.
> > I suspect your dealer will NOT re-solder the original relay,they'd rather
> > sell you a new relay;they profit from the sale and the installation.
> >
> > And they may not know how to solder either!
> >
> > But good luck,I hope this fixes your car,and I'm glad to be of some help!
>
> I talked to my mechanic (not a Honda dealer, just a chain--Tires
> Plus), and he knew exactly what I was talking about with the main
> relay. He does know how to solder, but I'm just going to order a new
> part (my preference), but he says it has to come from the Honda
> dealer.
Por que?
Online parts sites sell OEM, too.
Of course, delivery might take a week.
> I'll also call the Honda automotive website on Monday that
> someone provided, because the part isn't listed on their site. I'm
> assuming that I can install a new one, but I can't find the old one.
> I've looked all under the dash. The mechanic said you can pull relays
> all day and not get the right one.
Not this one. I'm an amateur, and there's only one relay (really, a "relay
assembly") that looks anything like the picture at
http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm .
It is tucked up in there (on the driver's dash side, on the left, maybe a few
inches above knee height) on some Honda models though.
It helps to have the new one in your hand, to match up shapes and maybe, but not
necessarily, colors.
>I may have to let him find it.
I was originally going to have an import shop fix mine in 1999, but they were
busy. I asked the mechanic if maybe he could point it out to me. He graciously
took a couple of minutes and got in there with a flashlight and did.
Then I took the hour and acquired the scratched up knuckles wrangling the thing
out, like Tomb wrote.
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Re: 1990 Civic Wagon with Periodic Starting Problem
Caroline wrote:
|| "OS" <bs243@hotmail.com> wrote
|||| I suspect your dealer will NOT re-solder the original relay,they'd
|||| rather sell you a new relay;they profit from the sale and the
|||| installation.
||||
|||| And they may not know how to solder either!
||||
|||| But good luck,I hope this fixes your car,and I'm glad to be of
|||| some help!
|||
||| I talked to my mechanic (not a Honda dealer, just a chain--Tires
||| Plus), and he knew exactly what I was talking about with the main
||| relay. He does know how to solder, but I'm just going to order a
||| new
||| part (my preference), but he says it has to come from the Honda
||| dealer.
||
|| Por que?
||
|| Online parts sites sell OEM, too.
||
|| Of course, delivery might take a week.
||
||| I'll also call the Honda automotive website on Monday that
||| someone provided, because the part isn't listed on their site. I'm
||| assuming that I can install a new one, but I can't find the old one.
||| I've looked all under the dash. The mechanic said you can pull
||| relays
||| all day and not get the right one.
||
|| Not this one. I'm an amateur, and there's only one relay (really, a
|| "relay assembly") that looks anything like the picture at
|| http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm
Not to mention it's behind the "cover"... it's left of the fusebox, outside
of view. If you peek through the few holes in the plastic dash area, you can
see it.
|| It is tucked up in there (on the driver's dash side, on the left,
|| maybe a few inches above knee height) on some Honda models though.
And use your ears. That's how I found it easiest; switch your ignition from
off to run (not start), then you hear a click................click. The
source of the click is the main relay
|| "OS" <bs243@hotmail.com> wrote
|||| I suspect your dealer will NOT re-solder the original relay,they'd
|||| rather sell you a new relay;they profit from the sale and the
|||| installation.
||||
|||| And they may not know how to solder either!
||||
|||| But good luck,I hope this fixes your car,and I'm glad to be of
|||| some help!
|||
||| I talked to my mechanic (not a Honda dealer, just a chain--Tires
||| Plus), and he knew exactly what I was talking about with the main
||| relay. He does know how to solder, but I'm just going to order a
||| new
||| part (my preference), but he says it has to come from the Honda
||| dealer.
||
|| Por que?
||
|| Online parts sites sell OEM, too.
||
|| Of course, delivery might take a week.
||
||| I'll also call the Honda automotive website on Monday that
||| someone provided, because the part isn't listed on their site. I'm
||| assuming that I can install a new one, but I can't find the old one.
||| I've looked all under the dash. The mechanic said you can pull
||| relays
||| all day and not get the right one.
||
|| Not this one. I'm an amateur, and there's only one relay (really, a
|| "relay assembly") that looks anything like the picture at
|| http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm
Not to mention it's behind the "cover"... it's left of the fusebox, outside
of view. If you peek through the few holes in the plastic dash area, you can
see it.
|| It is tucked up in there (on the driver's dash side, on the left,
|| maybe a few inches above knee height) on some Honda models though.
And use your ears. That's how I found it easiest; switch your ignition from
off to run (not start), then you hear a click................click. The
source of the click is the main relay
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Re: 1990 Civic Wagon with Periodic Starting Problem
"Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote in
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> It is tucked up in there (on the driver's dash side, on the left,
> maybe a few inches above knee height) on some Honda models though.
>
> It helps to have the new one in your hand, to match up shapes and
> maybe, but not necessarily, colors.
>
>>I may have to let him find it.
>
> I was originally going to have an import shop fix mine in 1999, but
> they were busy. I asked the mechanic if maybe he could point it out to
> me. He graciously took a couple of minutes and got in there with a
> flashlight and did.
>
> Then I took the hour and acquired the scratched up knuckles wrangling
> the thing out, like Tomb wrote.
>
>
I found mine pretty easily,after looking at the
http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm .
website.
I did remove the lower dash cowling for easier access.It wasn't too hard in
my Integra.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net
news:KGxpc.1808$SZ4.1458@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net:
> It is tucked up in there (on the driver's dash side, on the left,
> maybe a few inches above knee height) on some Honda models though.
>
> It helps to have the new one in your hand, to match up shapes and
> maybe, but not necessarily, colors.
>
>>I may have to let him find it.
>
> I was originally going to have an import shop fix mine in 1999, but
> they were busy. I asked the mechanic if maybe he could point it out to
> me. He graciously took a couple of minutes and got in there with a
> flashlight and did.
>
> Then I took the hour and acquired the scratched up knuckles wrangling
> the thing out, like Tomb wrote.
>
>
I found mine pretty easily,after looking at the
http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm .
website.
I did remove the lower dash cowling for easier access.It wasn't too hard in
my Integra.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net
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Re: 1990 Civic Wagon with Periodic Starting Problem
"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote
> "Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote in
> > Then I took the hour and acquired the scratched up knuckles wrangling
> > the thing out, like Tomb wrote.
> >
>
> I found mine pretty easily,after looking at the
> http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm .
> website.
>
> I did remove the lower dash cowling for easier access.It wasn't too hard in
> my Integra.
Likewise, I think I also removed some part of the left dash to get at the main
relay, and this helped. But it still wasn't easy on my 91 Civic LX
> "Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote in
> > Then I took the hour and acquired the scratched up knuckles wrangling
> > the thing out, like Tomb wrote.
> >
>
> I found mine pretty easily,after looking at the
> http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm .
> website.
>
> I did remove the lower dash cowling for easier access.It wasn't too hard in
> my Integra.
Likewise, I think I also removed some part of the left dash to get at the main
relay, and this helped. But it still wasn't easy on my 91 Civic LX
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Re: 1990 Civic Wagon with Periodic Starting Problem
Caroline wrote:
|| "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote
||| "Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote in
||| I found mine pretty easily,after looking at the
||| http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm
||| . website.
|||
||| I did remove the lower dash cowling for easier access.It wasn't too
||| hard in my Integra.
||
|| Likewise, I think I also removed some part of the left dash to get
|| at the main relay, and this helped. But it still wasn't easy on my
|| 91 Civic LX
All I managed to remove was the coin holder (88 Civic LX). I couldn't figure
out how to remove the lower dash cowling... or couldn't be bothered to to
|| "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote
||| "Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote in
||| I found mine pretty easily,after looking at the
||| http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm
||| . website.
|||
||| I did remove the lower dash cowling for easier access.It wasn't too
||| hard in my Integra.
||
|| Likewise, I think I also removed some part of the left dash to get
|| at the main relay, and this helped. But it still wasn't easy on my
|| 91 Civic LX
All I managed to remove was the coin holder (88 Civic LX). I couldn't figure
out how to remove the lower dash cowling... or couldn't be bothered to to
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Re: 1990 Civic Wagon with Periodic Starting Problem
I just wanted to report that I bought a new main relay from the local
dealer for $56. The problem was finding the thing under the dash.
After several days of looking for it, I went back and re-read some of
the posts here about locating it. I finally found it: it is located
as far to the left as possible under the dash, even with the hood
latch. It has its own little compartment. The problem is there isn't
much work space for getting it out and unplugging it, and I had to
loosen a dash nut or two, but I did replace it, and everything works
great. I'm still not used to my car starting EVERY time, no matter
the temperature. This board was a tremendous help. Thanks for all
your responses.
OS
dealer for $56. The problem was finding the thing under the dash.
After several days of looking for it, I went back and re-read some of
the posts here about locating it. I finally found it: it is located
as far to the left as possible under the dash, even with the hood
latch. It has its own little compartment. The problem is there isn't
much work space for getting it out and unplugging it, and I had to
loosen a dash nut or two, but I did replace it, and everything works
great. I'm still not used to my car starting EVERY time, no matter
the temperature. This board was a tremendous help. Thanks for all
your responses.
OS
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