"Robert A. Cunningham" <infojunkie@dslextreme.com> wrote in
news:13gl9qtq8lmhnf2@corp.supernews.com:


> When I bought my '07 Fit, I received a coupon from the dealer for a
> complimentary 3,750 mile service which includes oil & filter change,
> along with inspection and checking of other items. The coupon states
> "Offer Expires at 6,000 miles." I only have about 2,500 miles on it
> now, and the oil life indicators shows 60% oil life remaining. If I
> interpret this correctly, I should take it to the dealer before 6,000
> miles are gone, even if the oil life indicator reads plenty of life
> remaining. Is this correct. (and no, I am not a Honda engineer, nor do
> I claim to be one). Thanks for the help.
>


The dealer is trying to soak you.

Forget this one, and resign yourself to being $30 poorer when oil change
time does come around.

What's $30 in the context of what you will spend on the car over the next
x-years?

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"Robert A. Cunningham" <infojunkie@dslextreme.com> wrote in
news:13gl9qtq8lmhnf2@corp.supernews.com:


> When I bought my '07 Fit, I received a coupon from the dealer for a
> complimentary 3,750 mile service which includes oil & filter change,
> along with inspection and checking of other items. The coupon states
> "Offer Expires at 6,000 miles." I only have about 2,500 miles on it
> now, and the oil life indicators shows 60% oil life remaining. If I
> interpret this correctly, I should take it to the dealer before 6,000
> miles are gone, even if the oil life indicator reads plenty of life
> remaining. Is this correct. (and no, I am not a Honda engineer, nor do
> I claim to be one). Thanks for the help.
>


The dealer is trying to soak you.

Forget this one, and resign yourself to being $30 poorer when oil change
time does come around.

What's $30 in the context of what you will spend on the car over the next
x-years?

--
Tegger

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"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns99C3D08307E96tegger@207.14.116.130...
> "Robert A. Cunningham" <infojunkie@dslextreme.com> wrote in
> news:13gl9qtq8lmhnf2@corp.supernews.com:
>
>
>> When I bought my '07 Fit, I received a coupon from the dealer for a
>> complimentary 3,750 mile service which includes oil & filter change,
>> along with inspection and checking of other items. The coupon states
>> "Offer Expires at 6,000 miles." I only have about 2,500 miles on it
>> now, and the oil life indicators shows 60% oil life remaining. If I
>> interpret this correctly, I should take it to the dealer before 6,000
>> miles are gone, even if the oil life indicator reads plenty of life
>> remaining. Is this correct. (and no, I am not a Honda engineer, nor do
>> I claim to be one). Thanks for the help.
>>
>
>
> The dealer is trying to soak you.
>
> Forget this one, and resign yourself to being $30 poorer when oil change
> time does come around.
>
> What's $30 in the context of what you will spend on the car over the next
> x-years?
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Well, I may be missing something here, but the coupon is for a FREE service
(hence the term "complimentary"). It was promised to me even before I
signed the papers for the purchase. While I normally don't have a very high
opinion of some car dealers (based upon my experience with Nissan dealers),
I kind of doubt that I will get charged for this one. Of course, if they
do attempt to charge me for this "free" service, I'll post it, along with
the dealer's name. Thanks for the information.

Robert A. Cunningham

 

"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns99C3D08307E96tegger@207.14.116.130...
> "Robert A. Cunningham" <infojunkie@dslextreme.com> wrote in
> news:13gl9qtq8lmhnf2@corp.supernews.com:
>
>
>> When I bought my '07 Fit, I received a coupon from the dealer for a
>> complimentary 3,750 mile service which includes oil & filter change,
>> along with inspection and checking of other items. The coupon states
>> "Offer Expires at 6,000 miles." I only have about 2,500 miles on it
>> now, and the oil life indicators shows 60% oil life remaining. If I
>> interpret this correctly, I should take it to the dealer before 6,000
>> miles are gone, even if the oil life indicator reads plenty of life
>> remaining. Is this correct. (and no, I am not a Honda engineer, nor do
>> I claim to be one). Thanks for the help.
>>
>
>
> The dealer is trying to soak you.
>
> Forget this one, and resign yourself to being $30 poorer when oil change
> time does come around.
>
> What's $30 in the context of what you will spend on the car over the next
> x-years?
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Well, I may be missing something here, but the coupon is for a FREE service
(hence the term "complimentary"). It was promised to me even before I
signed the papers for the purchase. While I normally don't have a very high
opinion of some car dealers (based upon my experience with Nissan dealers),
I kind of doubt that I will get charged for this one. Of course, if they
do attempt to charge me for this "free" service, I'll post it, along with
the dealer's name. Thanks for the information.

Robert A. Cunningham

 

"Robert A. Cunningham" <infojunkie@dslextreme.com> wrote in
news:13glqfsf3v6ldd3@corp.supernews.com:

>
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns99C3D08307E96tegger@207.14.116.130...
>> "Robert A. Cunningham" <infojunkie@dslextreme.com> wrote in
>> news:13gl9qtq8lmhnf2@corp.supernews.com:
>>
>>
>>> When I bought my '07 Fit, I received a coupon from the dealer for a
>>> complimentary 3,750 mile service which includes oil & filter change,
>>> along with inspection and checking of other items. The coupon
>>> states "Offer Expires at 6,000 miles." I only have about 2,500
>>> miles on it now, and the oil life indicators shows 60% oil life
>>> remaining. If I interpret this correctly, I should take it to the
>>> dealer before 6,000 miles are gone, even if the oil life indicator
>>> reads plenty of life remaining. Is this correct. (and no, I am not a
>>> Honda engineer, nor do I claim to be one). Thanks for the help.
>>>
>>
>>
>> The dealer is trying to soak you.
>>
>> Forget this one, and resign yourself to being $30 poorer when oil
>> change time does come around.
>>
>> What's $30 in the context of what you will spend on the car over the
>> next x-years?
>>
>>
>
> Well, I may be missing something here, but the coupon is for a FREE
> service (hence the term "complimentary").



Missed the freebie part. But I still wouldn't do the first oil change
before the Minder tells you.



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"Robert A. Cunningham" <infojunkie@dslextreme.com> wrote in
news:13glqfsf3v6ldd3@corp.supernews.com:

>
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns99C3D08307E96tegger@207.14.116.130...
>> "Robert A. Cunningham" <infojunkie@dslextreme.com> wrote in
>> news:13gl9qtq8lmhnf2@corp.supernews.com:
>>
>>
>>> When I bought my '07 Fit, I received a coupon from the dealer for a
>>> complimentary 3,750 mile service which includes oil & filter change,
>>> along with inspection and checking of other items. The coupon
>>> states "Offer Expires at 6,000 miles." I only have about 2,500
>>> miles on it now, and the oil life indicators shows 60% oil life
>>> remaining. If I interpret this correctly, I should take it to the
>>> dealer before 6,000 miles are gone, even if the oil life indicator
>>> reads plenty of life remaining. Is this correct. (and no, I am not a
>>> Honda engineer, nor do I claim to be one). Thanks for the help.
>>>
>>
>>
>> The dealer is trying to soak you.
>>
>> Forget this one, and resign yourself to being $30 poorer when oil
>> change time does come around.
>>
>> What's $30 in the context of what you will spend on the car over the
>> next x-years?
>>
>>
>
> Well, I may be missing something here, but the coupon is for a FREE
> service (hence the term "complimentary").



Missed the freebie part. But I still wouldn't do the first oil change
before the Minder tells you.



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I am new to this group... new Honda owner and all. I do know that every
group has one... and this groups' is named Elmo P. Shagnasty. You know, the
one know-it-all that has to add something even if they have nothing
intelligent to add.

Hey Elmo, why not go to ott.general, that group is full of people just like
you.

DR.


"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-4DD851.16301508102007@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
> In article <4e57$470a863b$d1d97789$8293@PRIMUS.CA>,
> "Dash Riprock" <DashIs@Home.ca> wrote:
>
> > Have my new Fit Sport and love it. I am used to changing my oil very
> > frequently but on the Fit it has the Oil life indicator which suggests
time
> > to change the oil.
> >
> > Its been a lot of kms and still the oil life indicator is just at 30%
life
> > left. 10,250kms. (6,369 miles) I am used to changing oil every 8,000
> > kms(4,970miles) and 10,250 seems to be quite far on the first oil... and
if
> > I did the math I wouldn't have to change the oil until approximately
14,643
> > kms (9,099).... too far for comfort.
>
> The Honda engineers know what they're doing.
>
> If you think you know better, go right ahead. But if you know better,
> then why aren't you a Honda engineer?
>

 

I am new to this group... new Honda owner and all. I do know that every
group has one... and this groups' is named Elmo P. Shagnasty. You know, the
one know-it-all that has to add something even if they have nothing
intelligent to add.

Hey Elmo, why not go to ott.general, that group is full of people just like
you.

DR.


"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-4DD851.16301508102007@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
> In article <4e57$470a863b$d1d97789$8293@PRIMUS.CA>,
> "Dash Riprock" <DashIs@Home.ca> wrote:
>
> > Have my new Fit Sport and love it. I am used to changing my oil very
> > frequently but on the Fit it has the Oil life indicator which suggests
time
> > to change the oil.
> >
> > Its been a lot of kms and still the oil life indicator is just at 30%
life
> > left. 10,250kms. (6,369 miles) I am used to changing oil every 8,000
> > kms(4,970miles) and 10,250 seems to be quite far on the first oil... and
if
> > I did the math I wouldn't have to change the oil until approximately
14,643
> > kms (9,099).... too far for comfort.
>
> The Honda engineers know what they're doing.
>
> If you think you know better, go right ahead. But if you know better,
> then why aren't you a Honda engineer?
>

 

Dash Riprock wrote:
> I am new to this group... new Honda owner and all. I do know that every
> group has one... and this groups' is named Elmo P. Shagnasty. You know, the
> one know-it-all that has to add something even if they have nothing
> intelligent to add.
>
> Hey Elmo, why not go to ott.general, that group is full of people just like
> you.
>
> DR.
>
>
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
> news:elmop-4DD851.16301508102007@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
>> In article <4e57$470a863b$d1d97789$8293@PRIMUS.CA>,
>> "Dash Riprock" <DashIs@Home.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> Have my new Fit Sport and love it. I am used to changing my oil very
>>> frequently but on the Fit it has the Oil life indicator which suggests
> time
>>> to change the oil.
>>>
>>> Its been a lot of kms and still the oil life indicator is just at 30%
> life
>>> left. 10,250kms. (6,369 miles) I am used to changing oil every 8,000
>>> kms(4,970miles) and 10,250 seems to be quite far on the first oil... and
> if
>>> I did the math I wouldn't have to change the oil until approximately
> 14,643
>>> kms (9,099).... too far for comfort.
>> The Honda engineers know what they're doing.
>>
>> If you think you know better, go right ahead. But if you know better,
>> then why aren't you a Honda engineer?

Funny think is that Elmo is right. The Honda engineers know what they're
doing. There is no need to change the oil more frequently than
indicated by oil life indicator. The quality of the oils have increased
over the years.

Whether or not Elmo is a know-it-all, at least he knew better than to
top post, which is rude and makes it hard to follow the thread. And was
correct.

Jeff

 

Dash Riprock wrote:
> I am new to this group... new Honda owner and all. I do know that every
> group has one... and this groups' is named Elmo P. Shagnasty. You know, the
> one know-it-all that has to add something even if they have nothing
> intelligent to add.
>
> Hey Elmo, why not go to ott.general, that group is full of people just like
> you.
>
> DR.
>
>
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
> news:elmop-4DD851.16301508102007@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
>> In article <4e57$470a863b$d1d97789$8293@PRIMUS.CA>,
>> "Dash Riprock" <DashIs@Home.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> Have my new Fit Sport and love it. I am used to changing my oil very
>>> frequently but on the Fit it has the Oil life indicator which suggests
> time
>>> to change the oil.
>>>
>>> Its been a lot of kms and still the oil life indicator is just at 30%
> life
>>> left. 10,250kms. (6,369 miles) I am used to changing oil every 8,000
>>> kms(4,970miles) and 10,250 seems to be quite far on the first oil... and
> if
>>> I did the math I wouldn't have to change the oil until approximately
> 14,643
>>> kms (9,099).... too far for comfort.
>> The Honda engineers know what they're doing.
>>
>> If you think you know better, go right ahead. But if you know better,
>> then why aren't you a Honda engineer?

Funny think is that Elmo is right. The Honda engineers know what they're
doing. There is no need to change the oil more frequently than
indicated by oil life indicator. The quality of the oils have increased
over the years.

Whether or not Elmo is a know-it-all, at least he knew better than to
top post, which is rude and makes it hard to follow the thread. And was
correct.

Jeff

 

Jeff <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:vkUOi.5944$rD1.2028@trnddc01:

> Whether or not Elmo is a know-it-all, at least he knew better than to
> top post, which is rude and makes it hard to follow the thread. And
> was correct.
>


It's not *top* posting that makes a thread hard to read, it's *POGO*
posting. So long as a thread retains top or bottom posting through the life
of the thread, you know which way to go when you read it.

"Pogo posting" is where the thread bounces from top to bottom posting with
each successive reply. You then need to count the ">" brackets and match
that up to the list of posters at the top of the message so you can tell
who wrote what and when.

Pogo posters are typically Microsoft Outlook Express users. And newbies.
These pay no attention to the tendency of the thread, but simply start
typing wherever their newsreader dropped them when they hit "Reply".

I'm not even going to mention (hey I just did...) Microsoft's habit of
stripping trailing spaces (which makes OE unable to recognize compliant
signatures), and its serious and thus far uncorrected quote problems. OE
badly fractures quoted lines, and is unable to keep long URL's contiguous.

I do not understand this. Microsoft is one of the world's best software
companies. Why on earth can't they get these simple things right?


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Jeff <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:vkUOi.5944$rD1.2028@trnddc01:

> Whether or not Elmo is a know-it-all, at least he knew better than to
> top post, which is rude and makes it hard to follow the thread. And
> was correct.
>


It's not *top* posting that makes a thread hard to read, it's *POGO*
posting. So long as a thread retains top or bottom posting through the life
of the thread, you know which way to go when you read it.

"Pogo posting" is where the thread bounces from top to bottom posting with
each successive reply. You then need to count the ">" brackets and match
that up to the list of posters at the top of the message so you can tell
who wrote what and when.

Pogo posters are typically Microsoft Outlook Express users. And newbies.
These pay no attention to the tendency of the thread, but simply start
typing wherever their newsreader dropped them when they hit "Reply".

I'm not even going to mention (hey I just did...) Microsoft's habit of
stripping trailing spaces (which makes OE unable to recognize compliant
signatures), and its serious and thus far uncorrected quote problems. OE
badly fractures quoted lines, and is unable to keep long URL's contiguous.

I do not understand this. Microsoft is one of the world's best software
companies. Why on earth can't they get these simple things right?


--
Tegger

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"JM" <jmsn@ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in message
news:470ac884$0$14840$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net...
> "Dash Riprock" <DashIs@Home.ca> wrote in message
> news:4e57$470a863b$d1d97789$8293@PRIMUS.CA...
>> Have my new Fit Sport and love it. I am used to changing my oil very
>> frequently but on the Fit it has the Oil life indicator which suggests
>> time
>> to change the oil.
>
> From what I've read, the oil put in at the factory is special and you're
> supposed to leave it in until the indicator says you need a change --
> changing it earlier can cause problems -- or at least lessen the effects
> of the factory oil;

Correct!

>I'm not sure exactly what you risk if you change early.

The oil put in at thr factory is a "break in oil".
It has special conditioners and additives to help properly break in the
motor. Especially critical is proper piston ring break in, or your Fit may
burn oil if not broken in properly.
Don't change your first oil until at least 15% or less.
As others have said, the engineers know. The maintenance minder system
measures your driving (speed, temperature, load, time, etc.) and calculates
the proper time to change your oil as well as other maintenance items as
indicated. It may vary by a few thousand miles depending on what it
measures. Modern oils are formulated to last a lot longer these days. Trust
the factory. question the dealer.

 

"JM" <jmsn@ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in message
news:470ac884$0$14840$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net...
> "Dash Riprock" <DashIs@Home.ca> wrote in message
> news:4e57$470a863b$d1d97789$8293@PRIMUS.CA...
>> Have my new Fit Sport and love it. I am used to changing my oil very
>> frequently but on the Fit it has the Oil life indicator which suggests
>> time
>> to change the oil.
>
> From what I've read, the oil put in at the factory is special and you're
> supposed to leave it in until the indicator says you need a change --
> changing it earlier can cause problems -- or at least lessen the effects
> of the factory oil;

Correct!

>I'm not sure exactly what you risk if you change early.

The oil put in at thr factory is a "break in oil".
It has special conditioners and additives to help properly break in the
motor. Especially critical is proper piston ring break in, or your Fit may
burn oil if not broken in properly.
Don't change your first oil until at least 15% or less.
As others have said, the engineers know. The maintenance minder system
measures your driving (speed, temperature, load, time, etc.) and calculates
the proper time to change your oil as well as other maintenance items as
indicated. It may vary by a few thousand miles depending on what it
measures. Modern oils are formulated to last a lot longer these days. Trust
the factory. question the dealer.

 

On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:35:06 -0400, Dash Riprock wrote:

> Have my new Fit Sport and love it. I am used to changing my oil very
> frequently but on the Fit it has the Oil life indicator which suggests
> time to change the oil.
>
> Its been a lot of kms and still the oil life indicator is just at 30%
> life left. 10,250kms. (6,369 miles) I am used to changing oil every
> 8,000 kms(4,970miles) and 10,250 seems to be quite far on the first
> oil... and if I did the math I wouldn't have to change the oil until
> approximately 14,643 kms (9,099).... too far for comfort.
>
> I do almost exclusively highway, long trip between 100 and 120kph (60 -
> 75 mph)... but still 14,000 per oil change... I don't think so.
>
> Anybody have 0.02 to add about Honda and Oil Life?

The engineers know more than you or I do. The system works. I prefer to
use it.

If you want to do oil changes on your schedule, that is fine (after the
first change), but all it will amount to is a waste of your money...




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