On 9/7/04 10:52 PM, in article vb0tj01e2v3vhdhm7j6vop7kco0b5fd3ue@4ax.com,
"Andrew J. Rozsa" <rozsa@usa.invalid> wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 11:28:05 -0400, "Honda Doc"
> <tophondadoc@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> :|All these things are normal operation. She can turn off the Navi, just read
>> :|the manual.
>
> [sheepishly] Clearly, you are absolutely correct about the Nav.
> Setup/Display Off.
>
> Thanks for driving me to the Nav manual.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Andrew


Glad to hear they finally did something about that. There is no such
command on my '00 TL Nav.

 

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in
news:elmop-2CDB00.06462607092004@text.usenetserver.com:

> In article <Xns955D19C53A516XZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.167> ,
> Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> >> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating
>> >> the remote control;
>> >
>> > Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should always
>> > be, look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and exhaustive
>> > information on how the locking system is supposed to behave. Make
>> > sure you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is you've never
>> > even cracked the owner's manual. Do you even know where it is?
>> >
>>
>> Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away
>> without locking it.
>
> That must be controllable by the owner, then. No way does a car lock
> itself without some positive action on the driver/owner's part.
>

Nope, it does. Get in the car start it. Shut it off and remove the key.
Get out and shut the door without locking it. Watch for 30 seconds.

 

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in
news:elmop-2CDB00.06462607092004@text.usenetserver.com:

> In article <Xns955D19C53A516XZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.167> ,
> Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> >> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating
>> >> the remote control;
>> >
>> > Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should always
>> > be, look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and exhaustive
>> > information on how the locking system is supposed to behave. Make
>> > sure you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is you've never
>> > even cracked the owner's manual. Do you even know where it is?
>> >
>>
>> Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away
>> without locking it.
>
> That must be controllable by the owner, then. No way does a car lock
> itself without some positive action on the driver/owner's part.
>

Nope, it does. Get in the car start it. Shut it off and remove the key.
Get out and shut the door without locking it. Watch for 30 seconds.

 

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
D3DF0E.22545707092004@text.usenetserver.com:

> But the original claim is that "doors lock after she leaves the car,
> without her activating the remote control". That's BROKEN. On a new
> car, one should take that to the dealer to be fixed (after reading the
> fine owner's manual to make sure one isn't doing something wrong).
>
>

This is normal behavior. I've had an Acura RSX and an '04 Accord and they
both do this IF: You shut off the engine, remove the key, get out and shut
the door...it will lock automatically after 30 seconds or so. I found this
out the hard way with my RSX when I left the keys on the passenger seat and
got out to check something...fortunately, I was in my driveway

 

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
D3DF0E.22545707092004@text.usenetserver.com:

> But the original claim is that "doors lock after she leaves the car,
> without her activating the remote control". That's BROKEN. On a new
> car, one should take that to the dealer to be fixed (after reading the
> fine owner's manual to make sure one isn't doing something wrong).
>
>

This is normal behavior. I've had an Acura RSX and an '04 Accord and they
both do this IF: You shut off the engine, remove the key, get out and shut
the door...it will lock automatically after 30 seconds or so. I found this
out the hard way with my RSX when I left the keys on the passenger seat and
got out to check something...fortunately, I was in my driveway

 

In article <Xns955E87F42B7CXZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.165>,
Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

> > That must be controllable by the owner, then. No way does a car lock
> > itself without some positive action on the driver/owner's part.
> >
>
> Nope, it does. Get in the car start it. Shut it off and remove the key.
> Get out and shut the door without locking it. Watch for 30 seconds.

And that must be controllable by the driver, no question.

 

In article <Xns955E87F42B7CXZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.165>,
Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

> > That must be controllable by the owner, then. No way does a car lock
> > itself without some positive action on the driver/owner's part.
> >
>
> Nope, it does. Get in the car start it. Shut it off and remove the key.
> Get out and shut the door without locking it. Watch for 30 seconds.

And that must be controllable by the driver, no question.

 

On 9/7/04 11:51 PM, in article
Xns955E8F41EDE2XZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.165, "Nobody" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:

> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
> D3DF0E.22545707092004@text.usenetserver.com:
>
>> But the original claim is that "doors lock after she leaves the car,
>> without her activating the remote control". That's BROKEN. On a new
>> car, one should take that to the dealer to be fixed (after reading the
>> fine owner's manual to make sure one isn't doing something wrong).
>>
>>
>
> This is normal behavior. I've had an Acura RSX and an '04 Accord and they
> both do this IF: You shut off the engine, remove the key, get out and shut
> the door...it will lock automatically after 30 seconds or so. I found this
> out the hard way with my RSX when I left the keys on the passenger seat and
> got out to check something...fortunately, I was in my driveway

I would like to see the marketing survey that convinced them that anybody
actually wants this feature...

 

On 9/7/04 11:51 PM, in article
Xns955E8F41EDE2XZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.165, "Nobody" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:

> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
> D3DF0E.22545707092004@text.usenetserver.com:
>
>> But the original claim is that "doors lock after she leaves the car,
>> without her activating the remote control". That's BROKEN. On a new
>> car, one should take that to the dealer to be fixed (after reading the
>> fine owner's manual to make sure one isn't doing something wrong).
>>
>>
>
> This is normal behavior. I've had an Acura RSX and an '04 Accord and they
> both do this IF: You shut off the engine, remove the key, get out and shut
> the door...it will lock automatically after 30 seconds or so. I found this
> out the hard way with my RSX when I left the keys on the passenger seat and
> got out to check something...fortunately, I was in my driveway

I would like to see the marketing survey that convinced them that anybody
actually wants this feature...

 

"Nobody" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:Xns955E87F42B7CXZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.165 ...
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in
> news:elmop-2CDB00.06462607092004@text.usenetserver.com:
>
>> In article <Xns955D19C53A516XZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.167> ,
>> Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> >> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating
>>> >> the remote control;
>>> >
>>> > Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should always
>>> > be, look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and exhaustive
>>> > information on how the locking system is supposed to behave. Make
>>> > sure you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is you've never
>>> > even cracked the owner's manual. Do you even know where it is?
>>> >
>>>
>>> Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away
>>> without locking it.
>>
>> That must be controllable by the owner, then. No way does a car lock
>> itself without some positive action on the driver/owner's part.
>>
>
> Nope, it does. Get in the car start it. Shut it off and remove the key.
> Get out and shut the door without locking it. Watch for 30 seconds.


No way I drive a 2004 accord and the car Will Not lock it self as you
describe.
but it will relock it self within 30sec or so if you use your remote to
unlock it and don't open the door within 30 sec. or so.

 

"Nobody" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:Xns955E87F42B7CXZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.165 ...
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in
> news:elmop-2CDB00.06462607092004@text.usenetserver.com:
>
>> In article <Xns955D19C53A516XZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.167> ,
>> Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> >> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating
>>> >> the remote control;
>>> >
>>> > Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should always
>>> > be, look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and exhaustive
>>> > information on how the locking system is supposed to behave. Make
>>> > sure you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is you've never
>>> > even cracked the owner's manual. Do you even know where it is?
>>> >
>>>
>>> Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away
>>> without locking it.
>>
>> That must be controllable by the owner, then. No way does a car lock
>> itself without some positive action on the driver/owner's part.
>>
>
> Nope, it does. Get in the car start it. Shut it off and remove the key.
> Get out and shut the door without locking it. Watch for 30 seconds.


No way I drive a 2004 accord and the car Will Not lock it self as you
describe.
but it will relock it self within 30sec or so if you use your remote to
unlock it and don't open the door within 30 sec. or so.

 

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <sZt%c.21571$vy.14613@attbi_s52>,
> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote:
>
>>>>>> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her
>>>>>> activating the remote control;
>>>>>
>>>>> Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should
>>>>> always be, look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and
>>>>> exhaustive information on how the locking system is supposed to
>>>>> behave. Make sure you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is
>>>>> you've never even cracked the owner's manual. Do you even know
>>>>> where it is?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away
>>>> without locking it.
>>>
>>> That must be controllable by the owner, then. No way does a car
>>> lock itself without some positive action on the driver/owner's part.
>>
>> My 04 will relock itself if it is unlocked and the door is not
>> opened in about 1 minute. Even if I lower the windows.....
>
> That's standard Honda behavior. Nice.
>
> But the original claim is that "doors lock after she leaves the car,
> without her activating the remote control". That's BROKEN. On a new
> car, one should take that to the dealer to be fixed (after reading the
> fine owner's manual to make sure one isn't doing something wrong).

Yes, my 04 doesn't do this. If I don't lock it, it stays that way.....

 

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <sZt%c.21571$vy.14613@attbi_s52>,
> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote:
>
>>>>>> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her
>>>>>> activating the remote control;
>>>>>
>>>>> Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should
>>>>> always be, look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and
>>>>> exhaustive information on how the locking system is supposed to
>>>>> behave. Make sure you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is
>>>>> you've never even cracked the owner's manual. Do you even know
>>>>> where it is?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away
>>>> without locking it.
>>>
>>> That must be controllable by the owner, then. No way does a car
>>> lock itself without some positive action on the driver/owner's part.
>>
>> My 04 will relock itself if it is unlocked and the door is not
>> opened in about 1 minute. Even if I lower the windows.....
>
> That's standard Honda behavior. Nice.
>
> But the original claim is that "doors lock after she leaves the car,
> without her activating the remote control". That's BROKEN. On a new
> car, one should take that to the dealer to be fixed (after reading the
> fine owner's manual to make sure one isn't doing something wrong).

Yes, my 04 doesn't do this. If I don't lock it, it stays that way.....

 

Honda is not the only Japanese car maker whose vehicles do this automatically.

"E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message news:BD64ABA6.9A4D6%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
> On 9/7/04 11:51 PM, in article
> Xns955E8F41EDE2XZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.165, "Nobody" <nobody@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
> > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
> > D3DF0E.22545707092004@text.usenetserver.com:
> >
> >> But the original claim is that "doors lock after she leaves the car,
> >> without her activating the remote control". That's BROKEN. On a new
> >> car, one should take that to the dealer to be fixed (after reading the
> >> fine owner's manual to make sure one isn't doing something wrong).
> >>
> >>
> >
> > This is normal behavior. I've had an Acura RSX and an '04 Accord and they
> > both do this IF: You shut off the engine, remove the key, get out and shut
> > the door...it will lock automatically after 30 seconds or so. I found this
> > out the hard way with my RSX when I left the keys on the passenger seat and
> > got out to check something...fortunately, I was in my driveway
>
> I would like to see the marketing survey that convinced them that anybody
> actually wants this feature...
>

 

Honda is not the only Japanese car maker whose vehicles do this automatically.

"E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message news:BD64ABA6.9A4D6%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
> On 9/7/04 11:51 PM, in article
> Xns955E8F41EDE2XZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.165, "Nobody" <nobody@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
> > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
> > D3DF0E.22545707092004@text.usenetserver.com:
> >
> >> But the original claim is that "doors lock after she leaves the car,
> >> without her activating the remote control". That's BROKEN. On a new
> >> car, one should take that to the dealer to be fixed (after reading the
> >> fine owner's manual to make sure one isn't doing something wrong).
> >>
> >>
> >
> > This is normal behavior. I've had an Acura RSX and an '04 Accord and they
> > both do this IF: You shut off the engine, remove the key, get out and shut
> > the door...it will lock automatically after 30 seconds or so. I found this
> > out the hard way with my RSX when I left the keys on the passenger seat and
> > got out to check something...fortunately, I was in my driveway
>
> I would like to see the marketing survey that convinced them that anybody
> actually wants this feature...
>