Are Ball Joints Checked During Saftey?
10-10-2007 | 11:10 AM
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Are Ball Joints Checked During Saftey?
I bought a car about a month ago and it was making noise when i turn from day one... now i assumed (shitty assumption) that it was the new brakes, rotors or calipers.... so i went about my life... the noise continued and i brought the car to get it looked at (for the noise) and discovered that it was a ball joint... NOW my understanding is that ball joints are checked on safety... please advise!
car is 99 intrepid
car is 99 intrepid
10-10-2007 | 03:01 PM
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no you can not. A safety is only valid for at most 24hours after the car has been check. They cant not guarantee that the parts are gonna stay the same after they have looked at them. Now if ur wheel where to fall thats a different story broken bj u dont have a case.
10-10-2007 | 04:46 PM
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The safety is good for 36 days.
It is not a guarantee though.
If you bought it from a dealer with in the last 36 days, its worth a shot to see if they will fix it for you at their cost. A lot of dealers get lazy with the safeties.
It is not a guarantee though.
If you bought it from a dealer with in the last 36 days, its worth a shot to see if they will fix it for you at their cost. A lot of dealers get lazy with the safeties.
12-12-2007 | 11:31 PM
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1. Bodywork-underbody
- this basically means the underbody of the vehicle is free from holes and is not dented or mangled in any way or form.
2. Bodywork- hinges and latches
- this basically means the door hinges function normally, the hood latch and trunk latch open and close properly with no problems
3. Bodywork - sheet metal and bumpers
- this basically means the rebars are in tact and the quater panels of the vehicle are in good condition and the bumpers are held up by the quaters properly
4. Seat and Seat Belt Assemblies
- this basically means all seats are mounted with all the factory bolts and screws and there is no slack on movement in them unless they are supposed to and the seat belts all have the auto lock kick in when the belt gets pulled out fast and its bolted and present.
5. Mirrors
- this basically means all mirrors are present from the manufacturer ie. inner mirror and outter mirrors and none of them are cracked
6. Windshield Wiper, Washer and Defroster
- this basically means all the wipers are present or atleast 1 is present in the front that functions and cleans the complete view of the driver clean and the blades are in good condition and the washer fluid is enough and working and the defroster works.
7. Speedometer
- it works, and it lights up when headlights are turned on
8. Lamps and reflectors
- all lights are present, working and reflectors are clean and free of cracks and defects
9. Headlamp aim
- the headlight is aimed properly
10. Fuel System components
- all vapours are concealed and are in accordance with the EPA regulations. valid fuel cap, valid gas tank and no leak or smell.
11. exhaust system components
- all parts of the exhaust is in functioning order, no abnormal noises are produced, o2 sensors are in place and functioning, cat is present, resonator is present, muffler is present and all components are EPA compliant
12. Brakes
- are functioning and have enough compound to stop withing a safe distance in an emergency, handbrakes are adjusted and functioning, all mechanical aspects of the brakes are functioning, hydrolyic or pneumatic lines are operational and withing working conditions
13. Horn
- horn functions and produced sufficient noise
14. Accelerator Linkage
- is not sticky, has not been cut and modified, works proper
15. Steering column and box
- turns properly, no slack, no grinds, linkage is greased and not missing teeths if power steering is available that it works proper
16. Suspension
- ball joints, cv joints, springs, shocks, lca's, etc are operative and not missing and are all greased and lubed where need be
17. neutral starting switch
- car can start in neutral wheter it be auto or manual and that it doesnt engage into reverse from neutral while vehicle in motion for automatic
18. Tires
- have enough thread, are DOT approved, dont have any steel wire belts showing etc....
19. wheels and fastners
- wheels are straight and not bent, fasteners are adequate and operational and of proper tension.
The safety certificate has 36 requirements for both commercial and non commerical vehicles and an addition of 6 more for motorcycle's.
not all of the 36 will apply to your car because some are for trucks etc.. the ones i stated above are the ONLY ones for cars.
(i do not take credit for this, a man named "Zep" compiled the list.
- this basically means the underbody of the vehicle is free from holes and is not dented or mangled in any way or form.
2. Bodywork- hinges and latches
- this basically means the door hinges function normally, the hood latch and trunk latch open and close properly with no problems
3. Bodywork - sheet metal and bumpers
- this basically means the rebars are in tact and the quater panels of the vehicle are in good condition and the bumpers are held up by the quaters properly
4. Seat and Seat Belt Assemblies
- this basically means all seats are mounted with all the factory bolts and screws and there is no slack on movement in them unless they are supposed to and the seat belts all have the auto lock kick in when the belt gets pulled out fast and its bolted and present.
5. Mirrors
- this basically means all mirrors are present from the manufacturer ie. inner mirror and outter mirrors and none of them are cracked
6. Windshield Wiper, Washer and Defroster
- this basically means all the wipers are present or atleast 1 is present in the front that functions and cleans the complete view of the driver clean and the blades are in good condition and the washer fluid is enough and working and the defroster works.
7. Speedometer
- it works, and it lights up when headlights are turned on
8. Lamps and reflectors
- all lights are present, working and reflectors are clean and free of cracks and defects
9. Headlamp aim
- the headlight is aimed properly
10. Fuel System components
- all vapours are concealed and are in accordance with the EPA regulations. valid fuel cap, valid gas tank and no leak or smell.
11. exhaust system components
- all parts of the exhaust is in functioning order, no abnormal noises are produced, o2 sensors are in place and functioning, cat is present, resonator is present, muffler is present and all components are EPA compliant
12. Brakes
- are functioning and have enough compound to stop withing a safe distance in an emergency, handbrakes are adjusted and functioning, all mechanical aspects of the brakes are functioning, hydrolyic or pneumatic lines are operational and withing working conditions
13. Horn
- horn functions and produced sufficient noise
14. Accelerator Linkage
- is not sticky, has not been cut and modified, works proper
15. Steering column and box
- turns properly, no slack, no grinds, linkage is greased and not missing teeths if power steering is available that it works proper
16. Suspension
- ball joints, cv joints, springs, shocks, lca's, etc are operative and not missing and are all greased and lubed where need be
17. neutral starting switch
- car can start in neutral wheter it be auto or manual and that it doesnt engage into reverse from neutral while vehicle in motion for automatic
18. Tires
- have enough thread, are DOT approved, dont have any steel wire belts showing etc....
19. wheels and fastners
- wheels are straight and not bent, fasteners are adequate and operational and of proper tension.
The safety certificate has 36 requirements for both commercial and non commerical vehicles and an addition of 6 more for motorcycle's.
not all of the 36 will apply to your car because some are for trucks etc.. the ones i stated above are the ONLY ones for cars.
(i do not take credit for this, a man named "Zep" compiled the list.
12-14-2007 | 01:37 PM
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While the safety can be used for 36 days, it does not mean there is a guarantee. The inspection says that at the time it was checked everything was within allowable tolerance.
The mechanic has no way of telling what the owner does to the car after it leaves the garage. Parts may be changed out, the car damaged by a curb, etc.
You're out of luck, unless the seller agrees to help out with the repair.
The mechanic has no way of telling what the owner does to the car after it leaves the garage. Parts may be changed out, the car damaged by a curb, etc.
You're out of luck, unless the seller agrees to help out with the repair.
12-16-2007 | 02:37 AM
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That price is totally dependant on the vehicle and year.
Also, in case he can't install them himself, labour is not $30-$50....
If you know how to be persuasive and put the "fear of god" into the seller then you can probably get it paid for by them, especially if it was from a dealer. I had a similar thing happen with a used truck from a dealer, ball joints and turn signal switch. They replaced the things at there cost after a confrontation in the showroom.
Also, in case he can't install them himself, labour is not $30-$50....
If you know how to be persuasive and put the "fear of god" into the seller then you can probably get it paid for by them, especially if it was from a dealer. I had a similar thing happen with a used truck from a dealer, ball joints and turn signal switch. They replaced the things at there cost after a confrontation in the showroom.
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